Mike Slive has been hired by OM to help fight the NCAA

Those Bearsharks getting serious about their track and women's basketball programs. No mercy NCAA. Mike Slive isnt being hired for a bunch of secondary violations in football.

Freezus has retained a fairly big name himself for representation I hear- dont know the exact name though.

Ive seen a few misconceptions on other sites and Twitter- so let's address some of those:

1. Nobody on Elitedawgs expects OM to get the death penalty. Hopeful? Yes. Expects? No

2. Nobody on Elitedawgs thinks Freezus is getting a show-cause for whats in the current NOA. He may not get one at all- but the NCAA is trying. As I told you- at least two coaches will get them- Saunders got his and the coach Texas fired is likely #2.

3. Whether it's a 2nd letter or the NCAA adding on- we certainly believe more is coming. The vessel by which the NCAA delivers those allegations doesnt matter. I see the Bearsharks constantly say Hugh Freezus isnt mentioned in the NOA- ok. Well he has hired pricey legal advice for a reason. That pricey legal advice isnt needed if the NCAA is only dealing with allegations that pre-date Freezus as we keep being told. Coaches dont hire expensive lawyers for secondary violations the school self-reports. So if Freezus isnt named in anything- not just the NOA, and its a bunch of secondary violations- why the expensive lawyer?

4. Mike Slive isnt being brought on board to help negotiate the loss of 3 scholarships per year for 3 years. Anybody dumb enough to believe that needs a caretaker to help them in everyday life.

5. David Johnson confirmed the NCAA is still digging- just as myself and Rosebowl have been telling people. The NCAA doesnt do random interviews of top recruits anymore- they stopped that practice a few years ago. The NCAA does however interview prospects that other schools turn a particular school in for improprieties.

6. I still expect 1 or 2 members of the current staff to get a show-cause before all is said and done. Freezus may escape this bullet- but somebody is going to take the fall.

7. I dont expect a penalties announcement on OM before summer of 2017.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Those Bearsharks getting serious about their track and women's basketball programs. No mercy NCAA. Mike Slive isnt being hired for a bunch of secondary violations in football.

Freezus has retained a fairly big name himself I hear- dont know the exact name though.

Ive seen a few misconceptions on other sites and Twitter- so let's address some of those:

1. Nobody on Elitedawgs expects OM to get the death penalty. Hopeful? Yes. Expects? No

2. Nobody on Elitedawgs thinks Freezus is getting a show-cause for whats in the current NOA. He may not get one at all- but the NCAA is trying. As I told you- at least two coaches will get them- Saunders got his and the coach Texas fired is likely #2.

3. Whether it's a 2nd letter or the NCAA adding on- we certainly believe more is coming. The vessel by which the NCAA delivers those allegations doesnt matter. I see the Bearsharks constantly say Hugh Freezus isnt mentioned in the NOA- ok. Well he has hired pricey legal advice for a reason. That pricey legal advice isnt needed if the NCAA is only dealing with allegations that pre-date Freezus as we keep being told. Coaches dont hire expensive lawyers for secondary violations the school self-reports. So if Freezus isnt named in anything- not just the NOA, and its a bunch of secondary violations- why the expensive lawyer?

4. Mike Slive isnt being brought on board to help negotiate the loss of 3 scholarships per year for 3 years. Anybody dumb enough to believe that needs a caretaker to help them in everyday life.

5. David Johnson confirmed the NCAA is still digging- just as myself and Rosebowl have been telling people. The NCAA doesnt do random interviews of top recruits anymore- they stopped that practice a few years ago. The NCAA does however interview prospects that other schools turn a particular school in for improprieties.

6. I still expect 1 or 2 members of the current staff to get a show-cause before all is said and done. Freezus may escape this bullet- but somebody is going to take the fall.

7. I dont expect a penalties announcement on OM before summer of 2017.

8. Click an ad.

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Ut Oh, we are in trouble now.

and yet one more thing- Slive being hired by OM wont be written about by the C-L- even though it would be a big story

Interesting. Very interesting.

Freeze will be protected. They'll have assistants, boosters, etc. take the fall, but ol' Freezus will be protected and spared. "He knew nothing" will be the cry.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

Freeze will be protected. They'll have assistants, boosters, etc. take the fall, but ol' Freezus will be protected and spared. "He knew nothing" will be the cry.

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Bingo. They have plenty of people to take the fall before they allow it to be their head coach.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

Freeze will be protected. They'll have assistants, boosters, etc. take the fall, but ol' Freezus will be protected and spared. "He knew nothing" will be the cry.

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Why would assistants take the blame and perhaps ruin their careers? I can see boosters doing that though

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why would assistants take the blame and perhaps ruin their careers? I can see boosters doing that though

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They wouldn't

I think people are being overly cynicle about how Ole Miss operates.

I'm a little surprised Slive accepted this case. I hope he is charging them out tha ass and doesn't feel like he has some moral responsibility to help them and ask for favors from the NCAA. Surely Slive knows that Ole Miss has gone too far and since it's no longer part of his record as commissioner, I'm not sure why he cares.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

They wouldn't

I think people are being overly cynicle about how Ole Miss operates.

I'm a little surprised Slive accepted this case. I hope he is charging them out tha ass and doesn't feel like he has some moral responsibility to help them and ask for favors from the NCAA. Surely Slive knows that Ole Miss has gone too far and since it's no longer part of his record as commissioner, I'm not sure why he cares.

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Or maybe Slive is looking out for his own ass??? If I recall correctly, there were rumors floating after 2013 that OM was warned by Slive to "cool it" due to the way they were pissing off schools other than MSU.

The hiring of Slive has to help them, but I hope the h*** not.

I got to give them credit. We had Bracky and a couple lawyers for our ordeal. They have hired the OJ Simpson legal defense team for some secondary violations that pre-date Freezus.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'm a little surprised Slive accepted this case. I hope he is charging them out tha ass and doesn't feel like he has some moral responsibility to help them and ask for favors from the NCAA. Surely Slive knows that Ole Miss has gone too far and since it's no longer part of his record as commissioner, I'm not sure why he cares.

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He is an attorney and this would be one of his areas of specialization. That is what attorney's do. (No criticism here for it either.)

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Bingo. They have plenty of people to take the fall before they allow it to be their head coach.

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So its ALWAYS been common practice to insulate the head man to give him plausible deniability, nothing new there. Heck, even Jackie got by with all the A&M stuff because he supposedly "didn't know". But my issue is that its been spouted for weeks now that an "ignorance" defense for the head coach doesn't work anymore? I thought the HC was held responsible for anything his staff does. I might could see Freeze skating by if they put all the blame on the boosters of the "Network" but if any staff members are shown to be complicit or knowledgeable about what was going on or if any on the staff gets a show cause (and a few staff members up there have already been allowed to "move on") then it would seem Freeze would be toast based on the new responsibility rules for the HC set up by the NCAA.

If anything, I believe this backfires. The NCAA is on a mission trying to prove their balls have dropped. Outside of the SEC everybody hates the SEC. Who better for the NCAA to prison rape with penalties than some uppity middle tier SEC school that thinks they are more than what they are. Hell, even most of the other SEC schools hate TSUN for the junk they've pulled the last few seasons so you know the SEC office would be close to ok with them being the member school thrown to the wolves. Them hiring slime just shows their desperation and to the NCAA would like they're saying "We know we're guilty as hell, but we're Ole Miss by damn and above the rules". That might just make the NCAA dig their heels in even deeper for more thrusting momentum to get every inch embedded in Col Rebs posterior.

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. But my issue is that its been spouted for weeks now that an "ignorance" defense for the head coach doesn't work anymore? I thought the HC was held responsible for anything his staff does.

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This is what we are all waiting to see at the outcome of all this. And why Freezus has an expensive lawyer.

Obviously consider the source, but a friend of mine in the neighborhood showed me a house that Jesse Mitchell was building and told me "Jesse told me Ole Miss always calls him when they're being investigated." Not sure if he's representing anyone now, but Mitchell could be a name that a coach or the school has gotten for some representation. The house is easily close to $1M.

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Originally Posted by AROB44

The hiring of Slive has to help them, but I hope the h*** not.

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Interesting there but I'm not sure how much this helps them at this point. I'm not even sure how the NCAA views Slive. I do know that from the day Slive took over he really had no concern about any SEC school cheating he only had concern that whatever one school complained about another that it was nipped in the bud through the SEC office shutting up the accuser. We became the black sheep of the SEC to Slive when we went around the SEC office in reporting the Cam Newton issues directly to the NCAA. I'm sure he loves him some Plantation since they cheat up one side and down the other but don't really squeal on anyone else.

To Slive was a snake at the SEC office and likely hid a bunch of stuff himself.

In fact if he were still there ( thank god he's not), probably little of this would have come to light .

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why would assistants take the blame and perhaps ruin their careers? I can see boosters doing that though

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Unless that coach is compensated hugely I don't see that happening either.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

To Slive was a snake at the SEC office and likely hid a bunch of stuff himself.

In fact if he were still there ( thank god he's not), probably little of this would have come to light .

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Agree. Anyone think the guy who gets a 7 figure bonus every time an sec school wins the national championship wants to see his most talented teams get popped for cheating? The incentive structure would actually encourage him to promote cheating and his rule that teams can't report one another to the NCAA is a pretty good indication of where his loyalties were placed. It's all about money... For the coaches and administrators at least. The students-athletes aren't getting crap in comparison.