Our Elite baseball players per PG

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06-20-2015, 04:07 PM
MsStateBaseball

Our Elite baseball players per PG

Top 300 Club

82 Parker Ford Fr. 1 2015
110 Ethan Small Fr. 2 2015
118 Elih Marrero Fr. 3 2015
188 Kale Breaux Fr. 4 2015
200 Jesse McCord Fr.RS 5 2014
209 Joey Swinarski So.R 6 2013
222 Jared Padgett Fr. 7 2015
225 Gavin Collins Jr. 8 2013
238 Dakota Hudson Jr. 9 2013
242 Austin Sexton Jr. 10 2013
247 Reid Humphreys Jr. 11 2013
269 Hunter Stovall Fr. 12 2015

The only one that's been a flop is Swinarski and that may be bc he has concussion issues. Don't know if he's still on the team.

This gives you idea of the talent level we have. PG IMO, does a really good job of the top 300 players in each class.
06-20-2015, 04:22 PM
Todd4State

There is a better than average chance that McCord is a bust too.
06-20-2015, 04:38 PM
messageboardsuperhero

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

There is a better than average chance that McCord is a bust too.

Calling a pitcher a bust after he tore his labrum is pretty harsh.
06-20-2015, 05:06 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero

Calling a pitcher a bust after he tore his labrum is pretty harsh.

It is. And I hate it for him because it's not anything in his control. I hope he comes back.

But it's not any different than calling Swinarski a bust because he had concussions.
06-20-2015, 05:27 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by MsStateBaseball

Top 300 Club

82 Parker Ford Fr. 1 2015
110 Ethan Small Fr. 2 2015
118 Elih Marrero Fr. 3 2015
188 Kale Breaux Fr. 4 2015
200 Jesse McCord Fr.RS 5 2014
209 Joey Swinarski So.R 6 2013
222 Jared Padgett Fr. 7 2015
225 Gavin Collins Jr. 8 2013
238 Dakota Hudson Jr. 9 2013
242 Austin Sexton Jr. 10 2013
247 Reid Humphreys Jr. 11 2013
269 Hunter Stovall Fr. 12 2015

The only one that's been a flop is Swinarski and that may be bc he has concussion issues. Don't know if he's still on the team.

This gives you idea of the talent level we have. PG IMO, does a really good job of the top 300 players in each class.

This gives a pretty good glimpse of where this class stacks up to what we had this past year. We were all super excited about McCord, Swinarski, and Collins, and this class has 4 guys better than any of them.

It also gives a good idea of the advantage Vandy has, since they're bringing in 5 top 100 guys in this class alone.
06-21-2015, 06:59 AM
sbcmortgageman

How did he get a concussion? Was it a baseball related injury?
06-21-2015, 09:55 AM
5 Star

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

There is a better than average chance that McCord is a bust too.

Actually they are expecting McCord to be back 100%. Your information is shaky at best.
06-21-2015, 10:20 AM
Dawg496

Is there a PG Top 300 where the players who go pro are removed from the list?
06-21-2015, 11:05 AM
AlSwearengen

Is Ford one of the kids that we "flipped" from ole miss?
06-21-2015, 11:09 AM
Jacksondevildog

We flipped Fenter and Trysten Barlow from Ole Miss after the Dalton Dulin situation in Oxford.
06-21-2015, 11:41 AM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by smootness

This gives a pretty good glimpse of where this class stacks up to what we had this past year. We were all super excited about McCord, Swinarski, and Collins, and this class has 4 guys better than any of them.

It also gives a good idea of the advantage Vandy has, since they're bringing in 5 top 100 guys in this class alone.

does anybody know how much signing money those 5 at Vandy turned down to come play in nashville? how many of ours this year turned down signing money to come play at State? I'd be willing to bet that some schools have more players on their teams turning down money than the number of our commitments that took the money and never showed up. I still don't know how or why we get our asses so kicked in this area. I'd like to see the total amount of signing dollars that some of our commitments got that we lost out on vs the amounts that were turned down to come play at vandy , lsu and some other truly elite programs.
06-21-2015, 12:09 PM
MsStateBaseball

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Originally Posted by Dawg496

Is there a PG Top 300 where the players who go pro are removed from the list?

No, I did it by myself.
06-21-2015, 12:41 PM
Tbonewannabe

I would have a hard time telling someone to turn down a million dollars to play MLB especially when they also get a full scholarship with the million to pay for school. The risk in that situation is far greater than the reward for going to school. I don't know how any school gets someone to turn that down.
06-21-2015, 01:09 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by 5 Star

Actually they are expecting McCord to be back 100%. Your information is shaky at best.

At this point, I'm sure they are hoping that he comes back at 100%. My information is based on my knowledge of expected recovery for a pitcher from a labrum tear- which is significantly lower than recovering from Tommy John surgery. Which is why I said "better then average" chance that he will be a bust rather than he "will be" a bust.

We'll see how his rehab goes because once he does that, we'll know a lot more.
06-21-2015, 01:11 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bully13

does anybody know how much signing money those 5 at Vandy turned down to come play in nashville? how many of ours this year turned down signing money to come play at State? I'd be willing to bet that some schools have more players on their teams turning down money than the number of our commitments that took the money and never showed up. I still don't know how or why we get our asses so kicked in this area. I'd like to see the total amount of signing dollars that some of our commitments got that we lost out on vs the amounts that were turned down to come play at vandy , lsu and some other truly elite programs.

I think it's more about valuing education and understanding that a million dollars really in the grand scheme of things isn't "life changing"- especially when you are looking at a minor league salary for the next 4-5 years than anything.
06-21-2015, 01:12 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by sbcmortgageman

How did he get a concussion? Was it a baseball related injury?

Yes. Ran into an OF wall during practice/scrimmage.
06-21-2015, 01:17 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think it's more about valuing education and understanding that a million dollars really in the grand scheme of things isn't "life changing"- especially when you are looking at a minor league salary for the next 4-5 years than anything.

Understand that. ...but I would like to see the numbers. ..I tried but didn't come up with anything
06-21-2015, 01:24 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Understand that. ...but I would like to see the numbers. ..I tried but didn't come up with anything

It's probably impossible to find that to be honest with you. I can tell you our guys signed for around 3 million combined. (1.6 million, 1 million, 375K).

A team may call up a player and say "hey if we draft you here, we will offer you 1.5 million, will you sign?" And if that player says no, they'll just draft someone else.
06-21-2015, 01:33 PM
MsStateBaseball

To many, its like going to Harvard and paying 10 percent or less for three years, getting drafted and make 300,000 or more signing bonus. Easy money.
06-21-2015, 08:38 PM
baseballfan

Heard from a friend of the family that Small turned down four offers in the 5th round.

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