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Ole is a term of affection in the South.
When someone is referred to as "A good ole boy" it doesn't have a thing to do with his age.
"Here comes Ole Bob" is not a comment on his age, either. There doesn't have to be a "young Bob".
Ole Miss is the same thing. It is an affectionate nickname.
I agree 100%.
Bullshit.
When something is a term of affection in that regard, it is spelled ol'. When used as Ole Miss, it refers to the slave owners wife. OM even had this on their website for a time. Here, watch this clip of people way smarter than us discussing this:
http://youtu.be/haCHyfCCzR0
Exactly right, this is the kind of people they are. Simply not capable of being honest about what's what, that's called a LIAR where I come from...
"Good ole boy" is almost universally used to denote a racist. Jesus. WTF world are you guys living in? I know y'all probably call the Civil War "the war of northern aggression" and that "states rights" isn't the same thing as their "right" to own slaves, but damn.....your revisionist history can only take you so far, especially when you're trying to convince people who know more about the topic than you.
Wow, I could have sworn I saw this affectionate term in the lyrics of the Confederate Army's battle hymn that is associated with racism and slavery***
Yes, Ole is a term of affection, but it became offensive when it was used as a symbol for racism & slavery.
Another good example of this same issue is the history of the Swastika: Swastika and symbols allied to it as being representative of order, harmony, eternity, destiny, prosperity, presence of divinity and protection against evil, holiness, purification, fertility, and celestial objects and their activities- most popularly that of the Sun.
In the same way there isn't anything wrong with "Ole Miss" there is nothing wrong with a swastika. However, in the same way Ole Miss became a symbol of racism & slavery, the swastika became a symbol of antisemitism, tyranny, genocide, and the Nazism.
Either way, both have become offensive, non-acceptable symbols in our society, no matter what the initial intent of the phrase or symbol was.
Dixie
by Daniel Decatur Emmett of Mount Vernon, Ohio Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten, (Alt Original: Cinnamon seed and sandy bottom,)
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land.
In Dixie Land, where I was born in,
early on one frosty mornin',
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land.
I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
to live and die in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie
Optional Verses
Ole Missus marry "Will the weaver"
Willum was a gay deceiver
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
But when he put his arm around 'er,
He smiled fierce as a forty pounder,
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
His face was sharp as a butcher's cleaver
But that did not seem to grieve 'er
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
Ole Missus acted the foolish part
And died for a man that broke her heart
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
Now here's a health to the next ole Missus
An' all the gals that want to kiss us;
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
But if you want to drive 'way sorrow
Come and hear this song tomorrow
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
There's buckwheat cakes and Injun batter,
Makes you fat or a little fatter
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
Then hoe it down and scratch your gravel,
To Dixie's Land I'm bound to travel,
Look away! Look away! Look away!
Dixie Land
What planet do you live on? I know many people just sit around and look for ANYTHING to be offended by but even this one is a stretch. This is why you people have to be stopped, or we won't have any language left.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
it absolutely was an affectionate nickname... for the slave owners wife.
Lol...The only good thing about it is when it exits the scene.
A convenient definition. And other than being completely inaccurate, a decent try.
And my Johnson is just an appendage.
This video makes me laugh every time. That girl is hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by BulldogDX55
OleMissGuy strikes again. The level of ignorance is truly astounding. Here is his latest from Rivals.com:
My answer to another poster as to, "Why do I care about this so much?"
I am from Mississippi. and think some of these things are an embarrassment for the entire state, not just Ole Miss. I think it would be good for the whole state's reputation, not just Ole Miss.
LB6870, there's no connection to "Ole Virginia". If it was instead called, "Ole Mississippi", you'd have something, or if Va was called, "Ole Virg", but they're not. "Ole Miss" is very specifically and historically that old slave term.
OleMissGuy's reply:
You have admitted here previously that you live in California and haven't been back to Mississippi in over 30 years.
Miss St is less than 100 miles from Oxford, yet in your mind they have no negative history.
Ole Miss has had black students since 1962. Mississippi State did not admit its first black student until almost 1966. It remained all white for 4 more years, becoming the last holdout in the SEC. Yet you cast stones.
Ole Miss is a Med School, Law School, Pharmacy School, Business School type of university. Miss St is an ag school. Their students still drive old pickups, wear huge belt buckles, dip snuff and wear cowboy hats and boots to class. Seriously, which student body do you think is more likely to be racist. Guess what? It is your rednecks.
Please save us your righteous indignation and uncontrollable hypocrisy. Your agenda is to damage your rival and it is your only agenda.
What a complete tool. I guess in his mind everybody on the tsun campus drives bmw's and Mercedes. I know there can't be one truck on campus. And we're the racist university? Let's see. Were we integrated with the "help" of the military? Did we riot at the last election? Did we hang a noose on the statue of the person that integrated your school in 1962? Was it our student body that heckled cast members of a play until they were in tears? Was it our school that had to ban a song where the whole stadium screamed the south will rise again?
That guy is a perfect representation of Ole Miss. An embarrassment to decent people, but too stupid to realize it.
I'm not sure when we first admitted a black student or what the point of your post is, but I do know we had our first black football players in 1969 while Ole Miss didn't until 1971. And we hired a black head football coach 10 years ago and they have had three hires since then and haven't gone that direction.
Either way, I'll be glad when all this racist stuff is over and done with for both schools. It's annoying. Why are there debates on who is more or less racist? There are prejudices at both schools by both races by a few folks, but I highly doubt anyone being educated at either one is truly a racist who wishes we still had Jim Crowe laws.
We need to get off this topic guys. It's pulling MSU down to their level.
I dont think good ol boy is racist. I do think that 99% of folks that are referred to as a GOB are racist.
Isn't this person supposed to be a pastor? That's a lot of hate for a man of God.
Yes, every school or town in the south has SOME negative history with race- but not everyone still openly embraces a slave term term as a nickname or calls themselves the rebels. The problem with UM is that they still embrace their racist past, while pretty much everyone else has let theirs go.
Also, I like his little "MSU is rednecks!1!!!" Rant- considering I know a ton of UM fans who wear boots, cowboy hats, huge belt buckles, drive pickups, and chew snuff. Crunchy Mike disagrees with his statement that MSU is more racist than UM- and if MSU really was more racist, would we really have twice as many African- Americans enrolled than UM?
Richard Holmes became MSU's first black student in 1965. In 1991, the Holmes Cultural Diversity Center on campus was named after him.
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"There were no catcalls, no racial slurs," recalls Holmes, who was 21 at the time. "It was quiet and serene. Nothing happened; there was just curiosity and disbelief."
http://www.msstate.edu/web/media/detail.php?id=2936Quote:
"But no one ever spit on me, no one hit me, no one pushed me, no one pulled a prank on me," he said. "No student ever closed a door in my face. Some befriended me and treated me with dignity and respect. Many just ignored me."