Coach or others, do y'all know the story on him? Did Polk not even recruit a guy in our backyard?
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Coach or others, do y'all know the story on him? Did Polk not even recruit a guy in our backyard?
Our previous staff knew about him. They didn't think he could hit. Wasn't the only screw up they made. They were numerous stories that aren't on this board that could be mentioned. But dozier is a big one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RBritt
Just one of many screwups by Polk. He allowed the NCAA crap to rule his mental state to the determent of MSU baseball.
Dozier grew up a big State fan. Although, he went to Southern Polk allowed UofM to load up on several players who would have gone to MSU if Polk and his staff had been paying attention which put UofM's program far ahead of State's program.
Personally, I would never allow Polk access to MSU again and would definitely removed his name from the stadium. Be gone.
Long story short- Polk II was an extreme cluster**** that shouldnt have happened. The lack of recruiting and misses are epic
Face. Palm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Of course, they didn't know Stephen Head could pitch.
Polk was never really into "it" after his short announced retirement in 92. Had one good recruiting class in 94 (ranked #1 in nation, but probably shouldn't have been). He had already begun his epic mental journey into the NCAA abyss.
I don't know about the probably shouldn't have been part. That class was loaded and it showed. Dubose, Piatt, freeman, Lee, Hauswald, Jackson, Polk and Patton. Two college world series later I'd say it was legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgoneyall
Also, Brian WANTED to go state. Both his older siblings went to state.
I know for a fact we slow played him and he was screwed over by Polk.
I have a friend that played for USM when they went to Omaha and he said that Dozier is the best SS that he's ever seen. They said he was the ultimate teammate and everyone in Hattiesburg loved him. He's now a big leaguer.
If there are any of you still out there that don't understand why Polk 2.0 wasn't working, here is a very nice example.
I blame Larry Templeton far more than Polk. After the CWS run in 1990, Polk went on his anti-NCAA rant and his coaching focus waned. Polk did well at Georgia due to Hope scholarships and because Vince Dooley let Polk know in no uncertain terms that he was hired to win and not chase NCAA rabbits. Polk knew when he returned to MSU that had no accountability and we all knew that he would do as he wanted. Many people will fart around with no accountability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
With some people, as time passes, time softens the rough edges and they don't seem so bad. With Larry Templeton, as time passes your realize that he was worse than you ever thought and you start to understand the immense depth of LT's incompetency.
A lot of influential MSU boosters begged him to come back in 1991- they definitely should get some of the blame. When someone wants to leave, you let them go.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Fillmore
Now, 2001- LT should have stepped up and told Polk not to come back. I'm sure there was also some pressure from some MSU boosters to bring him back as well. In fact, I believe that at least part of the reason why Pat McMahon left was because he was tired of hearing "how Ron would have done it."
Yes Sir- you are correctQuote:
Originally Posted by M.Fillmore
Its a beaten dead horse I know but why would you bring a guy back anyway who had already quit on you twice before (once got talked into staying and the second time DID quit AND got to name his successor in McMahon)? Then he unretires, has a pretty good couple of years at Georgia with players that were already there, and gets LT to let him come back to MSU like he was the MSU baseball saviour or something only to sit on his butt and not recruit like he should have and spend the vast majority of his time pontificating against the evils of the NCAA. And then adds insult to injury by showing his rear end when he decides to walk away AGAIN but this time is not given carte blanche on naming a successor. I'll be honest, I very much appreciate what Polk did for MSU baseball in his earlier days but on a personable level, and I've been around him in multiple alumni meetings and other venues, he was probably the most unlikeable coach we've had due to his ego and arrogance. I know a lot of coaches have those traits but most do a lot better job than Polk of not making those traits so obvious to the general fanbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
It's funny and ridiculous at the same time. I met Drew Pomeranz a couple of years ago in the RV area by Dudy during football season. We drank a few, while he told me how bad he and other OM players wanted to come to State. How Raffo and Polk literally snubbed them or just kept them warm because they didn't attend camp. It is absolutely amazing how messed up Polk and Raffo were during his final tenure.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
"Come visit in November" was the Polk/Raffo mantra without giving them any type of offer or guarantee beforehand -- even to kids who went to all the camps and showed out. This flew in the face of all these kids' MANY other SEC opportunities -- with coaches who wanted answers from them MONTHS before they'd even get the opportunity to visit MSU. Common sense says that these kids never really had the option to go to MSU even though it's what they most wanted. Many hold an eternal grudge about it too -- and I don't blame them.
Additionally, we wouldn't offer a player until he came on his official visit. That was the practice until rp's last year, when he finally changed that. So with that said no matter what Raffo and mcnickle did- and trust me they had their hands in evaluating problems- it really didn't matter bc mos players were committed before we ever would give them an offer. So, essentially we were getting guys that either dreamed of playing here( and we lost plenty of those during that tim too!) or had no other options.....sorry engie must have been typing at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
Speaking of Raffo, I had to go check and see how he was doing this season:
Record: 24-24
Home: 15-12
Away: 9-12
Sun Belt: 10-14
Boydsworld RPI: 142nd
Polk's explosion at Byrne is laughable. The year before, Polk went to the CWS, Polk's personal bootlicker LT was sitting in the AD chair. Polk could have retired then and Raffo would be our coach today and we would be on the NCAA tourney bubble instead of the Top 8 National seed bubble.
Polk wrongly figured the rest of the world is as incompetent as LT. Greg Byrne has brass nuts and proved it to Polk.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
This is the complete opposite of what happened. LT BEGGED Polk to come back....that's is STRAIGHT from the horse's mouth. Huntsville Quarterback Club circa 2006. Polk wanted to quit.....he didn't even want to come back.
It's ALL on LT....let's get the blame right, here. LT admitted this. Polk was much cheaper than Maneiri.
Not to take any blame off lt he could have handled it differently. However, fact is coach Polk called LT and said, " what are WE going to do"?! We as in Msu. He wanted to come back. Anything contrary just isn't true. As I said, WE didn't have to hire him back. We all know the rest, we did..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder