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I've been a Ray supporter from day one but at this point I do not think he will be able to get it done. I don't trust his recruiting, game- managing skills or the effort I've seen out of his teams. I think we should pull the trigger at the end of the season and attempt to regain control of our basketball program. It's time!
Only way I'd support this is if Bruce pearl (or Donovan or calipari) was guaranteed to replace him.
Now next year we better see significant improvement or ray needs to go
Not going to happen. He will get 3 years.
Now and coming in next year will only equal 3-5 more conference wins... And that's being generous, we will not be a good team next year either. We need to pull the damn plug now.
I don't know if I'm there yet but he has only one more year with me. I questioned hi coaching decisions too yesterday at the end of the game. We make two free throws to cut the lead to 4 with about :47 left I think. That's only a :12 shot clock difference so you would think you need to make it a free throw shooting game. But, he elects not to foul and Ark just runs the clock down before turning it over with :17 left. That's hardly enough time to try and have two possessions with baskets, while hoping Arky misses their free throws. It made no sense.
I'm hoping this doesn't turn out like the Croom experience, but Ray better get a few good commits, Newman, and show marked improvement next year or he is gone.
Yep, the last minute of yesterday's game was pretty inexplicable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
I'm not saying he will work magic next year, just can't see SS pulling the trigger after 2 seasons. If we only win 3-4 more sec wins next year, it will be interesting to see if SS considers that enough of an improvement for a 4th.
I heard at the game that it appears that Malik is going to LSU, unless something happens........
The guy had on a maroon shirt, so I assume he knows what he is talking about..
Any coach we hire deserves three years period... Next year is the year.. NIT or we start talking tough decisions
if we give him one more you'd better be ready for two more because next year won't be enough for him to right the ship.
we've lost players consistently and I'm not sure we'll keep all of our guys this season. the team has quit on the court. I'm not sure they'll all survive the offseason.
Boy, that would be a kick in the pants. Its one thing to lose him to an elite program like KY but if we lose him to a mediocre program like LSU that would be sad. Yes, they are certainly better than us RIGHT NOW (very few programs aren't) but over the last 20 years we've been a better program than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
No way he goes to LSU. Its UK, Duke, KU or UNC.
Why would he go to LSU over those schools?
Ray gets 4 years, and yes I agree he needs to be gone now.
What gives you any confidence in our AD making a good hire after he hired Ray?
I have no faith in Scott replacing Ray with a good assistant coach, or even with a current head coach, none.
If he starts year 3 without a full 13 I'll want him gone immediately. He's had a ton of time to fill out a roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
They didn't look like they quit to me yesterday
The situation hasn't changed... Ray inherited one of the worst situations in college basketball in a long time by the time every body had smoked off of campus and gotten hurt last year... Coach K would have put a terrible team on the court last year...
This year we were set to be a ton more competitive and then Jalen and Wendell did what they did... Who honestly think we don't have 17-18 wins with Jalens 3s and another experienced body down low? Either way every player on our roster has improved ... I'm not digging up the stats but they have... Its not sexy but we have went from terrible to bad... With luck we didn't get this year our ceiling was average..
Next year the excuses come off.. Period. We add a seven footer that ray has been able to develop for two years.. We add a 6'8 that ray has had for a year in practice.. We add another big man that is being developed at IMG right now... With Gavin and Roquez post depth will not be a problem... We add hopefully two high school shooters.. We desperately need that kid from GA to come on.. Also IJ and Jacoby make jump in shooting department.. Both have shown potential.. We also return our best player in sword.. Bottom line we will be out of the Tyson Cunningham and Tevin Moore business.
We should be a 20 win NIT team next year.. No excuses... And then we will stay at that level for a few years... That's the reality of the situation.. If we don't get to that level next year then it will be "time" as this thread is titled... Until then talking about firing ray in year two is like talking of firing Cohen in year two.. Do u remember how horrible we were in baseball that year?
I haven't thought about it this way but I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
We are a D1 program (albeit a bad one) . No reason to not be able to get 13 players. None.
Fill the hopper and process them at year end. Then fill it up again. Then process them again. Right now APR is the least of our worries.
He's had 1 full recruiting cycle.
He lost 2 players to drugs last season after it was too late to sign anybody else- then lost 2 to knee injuries. No way to have a full roster
This year he lost Daniels cause he didn't qualify- but had to save his scholly cause he enrolled at Christmas
He was at the mercy of the NCAA with NDoye
He had 2 other players leave after it was too late to get anybody else in. You can't bring in players during the Fall that are worth a shit. How is he supposed to have players when he keeps losing the Stands players to drugs and bullshit? Especially when it's after the signing period?
Will we have a full roster next year.??
He gets a pass for last year, but its time for Ray to figure out how to use all 13 scholarships.
You should be able to figure out if a player will qualify or not.
We gave SYLVESTER CROOM 5 freaking years!! Shut the hell up! You are clueless.Quote:
Originally Posted by BogeyGolfer