O?Connor NOT Bringing UVA Pitching Coach? Muscara??

Rumors gaining legs??

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Originally Posted by No BS Dawg

Rumors gaining legs??

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This is what I’ve been told since last Wednesday night.,

Honestly I would rather just keep Parker.

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Originally Posted by civildawg

Honestly I would rather just keep Parker.

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Why?

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Why?

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Not civil but honestly, Muscara does not impress me. Everyone lauds him for the pitching lab stuff at Wake, we have one here.

His Wake staffs, outside of his first with players he did not recruit or develop, have finished with a worse team ERAs than us in a worse conference. He just seems like he is not very good unless he walks into a staff of finished products, of which we will not be.

Muscara is a done deal, and he?s the best pitching coach in college baseball He knows how to take the biomechanical data and make it translate into the field. This is a big time addition.

We have a pitching lab, but it has never been utilized properly. It?s going to be maximized now.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not civil but honestly, Muscara does not impress me. Everyone lauds him for the pitching lab stuff at Wake, we have one here.

His Wake staffs, outside of his first with players he did not recruit or develop, have finished with a worse team ERAs than us in a worse conference. He just seems like he is not very good unless he walks into a staff of finished products, of which we will not be.

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I think Parker is a good pitching coach. Last year when he had some high end talent that showed. I just don't understand why he was not WAY more aggressive in the portal over the offseason. We HAD zero proven SEC starters returning and ALL we could get from the portal was Pruitt?? That was NEVER going to cut it. We are fortunate Pico and Siary were as good as they were this year or things could have really been bad. Ligon was up and down seemingly every week but another unproven guy coming off injury. Parker actually did pretty well with what he had to work with this season but I put a lot of blame on him for not pulling in another one or two big time portal guys.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Muscara is a done deal, and he?s the best pitching coach in college baseball He knows how to take the biomechanical data and make it translate into the field. This is a big time addition.

We have a pitching lab, but it has never been utilized properly. It?s going to be maximized now.

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We shall see. I have my doubts. Not about the hire because it is apparently a done deal. About the fit and whether he will work. He just does not impress me. Biomechanics are great until a flat fastball meets an SEC barrel.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I think Parker is a good pitching coach. Last year when he had some high end talent that showed. I just don't understand why he was not WAY more aggressive in the portal over the offseason. We HAD zero proven SEC starters returning and ALL we could get from the portal was Pruitt?? That was NEVER going to cut it. We are fortunate Pico and Siary were as good as they were this year or things could have really been bad. Ligon was up and down seemingly every week but another unproven guy coming off injury. Parker actually did pretty well with what he had to work with this season but I put a lot of blame on him for not pulling in another one or two big time portal guys.

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Our last head coach saw fit to sink nil money into Hines and Highfill, two of our largest earners there. So that eats up money for pitching.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I think Parker is a good pitching coach. Last year when he had some high end talent that showed. I just don't understand why he was not WAY more aggressive in the portal over the offseason. We HAD zero proven SEC starters returning and ALL we could get from the portal was Pruitt?? That was NEVER going to cut it. We are fortunate Pico and Siary were as good as they were this year or things could have really been bad. Ligon was up and down seemingly every week but another unproven guy coming off injury. Parker actually did pretty well with what he had to work with this season but I put a lot of blame on him for not pulling in another one or two big time portal guys.

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They would tell anyone that would listen we missed on portal pieces. We missed on Tommy LaPour, who ended up at TCU, and we missed on Zach Root, who ended up at Arkansas. We also got screwed with Travis Smith opting for pro ball after committing to us.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We shall see. I have my doubts. Not about the hire because it is apparently a done deal. About the fit and whether he will work. He just does not impress me. Biomechanics are great until a flat fastball meets an SEC barrel.

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If Oak wants the guy, I'll trust his judgment.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We shall see. I have my doubts. Not about the hire because it is apparently a done deal. About the fit and whether he will work. He just does not impress me. Biomechanics are great until a flat fastball meets an SEC barrel.

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Well, I assume he is the guy BOC wants? I mean I don't think you hire a guy of that caliber and then force a pitching coach on him. If that's the guy BOC wants that's good enough for me. I trust him to know a good pitching coach when he sees one.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not civil but honestly, Muscara does not impress me. Everyone lauds him for the pitching lab stuff at Wake, we have one here.

His Wake staffs, outside of his first with players he did not recruit or develop, have finished with a worse team ERAs than us in a worse conference. He just seems like he is not very good unless he walks into a staff of finished products, of which we will not be.

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Tell me you don't know baseball without saying it. ^^^

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not civil but honestly, Muscara does not impress me. Everyone lauds him for the pitching lab stuff at Wake, we have one here.

His Wake staffs, outside of his first with players he did not recruit or develop, have finished with a worse team ERAs than us in a worse conference. He just seems like he is not very good unless he walks into a staff of finished products, of which we will not be.[/QUOTE

Tell me you don't know baseball without saying it. ^^^

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What is false about it?

2023 staff (his first year): Team ERA-2.83
2024 staff: Team ERA-5.11
2025 staff: Team ERA-4.88

2023 staff at MSU(Fox last year): Team ERA-7.01
2024 staff(Parker Yr1):Team ERA-4.17
2025 staff: Team ERA-4.44

So where am I wrong? Because stats bear out our team ERA is better. Numbers do not lie. Like others have said, I will trust O Connor on this one but Muscara is not this savant who fields elite staffs.

I think Parker and Muscara are both really good. I'd be good with either.
Give me the better recruiter I guess.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What is false about it?

2023 staff (his first year): Team ERA-2.83
2024 staff: Team ERA-5.11
2025 staff: Team ERA-4.88

2023 staff at MSU(Fox last year): Team ERA-7.01
2024 staff(Parker Yr1):Team ERA-4.17
2025 staff: Team ERA-4.44

So where am I wrong? Because stats bear out our team ERA is better. Numbers do not lie. Like others have said, I will trust O Connor on this one but Muscara is not this savant who fields elite staffs.

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Of course numbers lie. Some fields are much more conducive to offense than others. Some teams have much better talent than others. There's a reason Chase Burns left Tennessee to go pitch for Muscara in his draft year. There's a reason why scouts, portal players and coaches all think Muscara is the best in the country. Insane take by you but whatever.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What is false about it?

2023 staff (his first year): Team ERA-2.83
2024 staff: Team ERA-5.11
2025 staff: Team ERA-4.88

2023 staff at MSU(Fox last year): Team ERA-7.01
2024 staff(Parker Yr1):Team ERA-4.17
2025 staff: Team ERA-4.44

So where am I wrong? Because stats bear out our team ERA is better. Numbers do not lie. Like others have said, I will trust O Connor on this one but Muscara is not this savant who fields elite staffs.

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Was he not at Wake in 2022?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

I think Parker and Muscara are both really good. I'd be good with either.
Give me the better recruiter I guess.

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Well we need to hire a recruiter somewhere on staff. The hire is going to be Muscara though unless something happens at the 11th hour.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We shall see. I have my doubts. Not about the hire because it is apparently a done deal. About the fit and whether he will work. He just does not impress me. Biomechanics are great until a flat fastball meets an SEC barrel.

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I think there is more than meets the eye there. I have heard him speak before and Muscara is very impressive and trust me he knows his stuff.

There have been rumors of him having some sort of a falling out with Walters and perhaps it's over something like NIL funds and who to recruit or something like that.

Worst case scenario he shows us how to maximize our pitching lab.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Of course numbers lie. Some fields are much more conducive to offense than others. Some teams have much better talent than others. There's a reason Chase Burns left Tennessee to go pitch for Muscara in his draft year. There's a reason why scouts, portal players and coaches all think Muscara is the best in the country. Insane take by you but whatever.

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He did beat us head to head for Burns.