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You were right.
Recruiting the right coach to Starkville will be a challenge.
We may land one who sees the new landscape in baseball and college support, but a sitting HC will still be a big pull from one of our top tier choices.
I want to be wrong.
We will get a good coach, but maybe not without a meltdown on the boards.
Where did you hear that?
A lot of people here don't want to realize that everyone doesn't want to live in a small town in the bible belt. No matter what the accolades the town garners, it's still a small town in the deep south and that is not for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
It really is different. Hoping to be wrong, but all the posting yesterday knocking some coaches way down the list, we might want to chill, and start there and be surprised and thrilled for hiring up the ladder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
As some posted in the past and you were one as well , it takes a coach that gets MSU, gets Starkville, loves it, thrives on it for baseball above other things in life.
Why are you pushing this narrative so hard? Posted same mess in 2 or 3 other threads and then made a whole new thread to push your narrative.
Always has been and still is a bullshit narrative. If we don't have the right people in place to make it happen, clear the whole lot and get some administrators that know how to make things happen. Tired of this po' ole Missipity Tate bullshit.
I don't think I posted it any more than the million posts on we are too good for anything less than the top 5. I hope we do hit the top guys or second level. Just seemed we need to cool it with "typical msu fans" comments toward anyone that is keeping all options open for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinto
No narrative. Just keeping it even steven
I?m not saying we won?t get the right guy, we will, theses guys are not your typical boosters, they are serious people that will measure 3 times before making a cut. That said we have a lot of people here who think that just because we are MState baseball anyone would jump at the opportunity. But we are not for everyone. Neither is Starkville or the Deep South. There are a lot of pluses in our job but there are also a lot of negatives to be measured out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Because it?s the reality, and people keep posting we are going to get Joe Torre kind of guy that wants to come to the greatest college ballpark in the nation.
Our fans will definitely outline all the negatives to our job.
I never see any other SEC schools do this.
- Yeah, but Starkville is small
- Yeah, but we can?t pay enough
- Yeah, we have a great stadium but that doesn?t matter
- Yeah we have great fan support but that doesnt matter
We are very talented no and probably about to make a run.
Why did they come here?
Someone needs to interview our current players and ask them why they came to State to give our fans some perspective.
We are on the same page, and matches a conversation I had this weekend with a couple of people that are in entirely different groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
The conversation was that we will get the best guy , best fit, but some need to cool the jets thinking every top coach in another conference wants to jump.
We are on the same page. This has been the plan from day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
A lot of this sounds like
1) negotiating 101 - if k was offered this job id say - the town is small, and k can?t recruit here. Ok, we will give you more money.
2) sounds like the administration wanting to resent expectations lower so whoever they hire will be good.
I?m sure it?s a little of both.
This Starkville small town stuff would matter a lot more in 1986 but we live in a society where flying is very common and we have University jets that I am sure our coaches will have access to when they and the family want to get out of town.
We did this with Howland and Leach I know for sure and I'm sure Dan used the jet as well and also the other coaches.
You don't get into education or college employment if you aren't willing to live and work in a small town because so many colleges are in towns just like Starkville- or smaller or worse.
You will not find a college baseball program like MSU anywhere else in the country. Yes that includes LSU. And if you are coaching college baseball I guarantee that you thrive on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
There's a half a dozen places in this conference that are like us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Look, we're going to hire a sitting HC if we want to. I would imagine Mark Wazikowski at Oregon is the absolute floor. But the reason we're able to hire a little better this time isn't because of Starkville, a stadium, or a fan base. It's because we're going to allocate rev share funds to baseball and have baseball NIL money from boosters. It's very simple.
I love the town, and actually know several out of state ,non MSU people, that want their kids to go to Starkville because they do love the town, and everything about MSU. It really is a special place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I hope we market and embrace the Best Small Town awards.
Some people though , it is not their thing. So it almost serves as natural selection in the coaching search of finding the best candidate who is hungry on winning baseball more than anything else.
Some sitting HC's are settled very well , with kids in schools with friends etc, and have a steady job for the foreseeable future. It does factor in. Their family has a vote in it also.
Isn?t this the case for every coaching search for every coach on the planet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
People have different tastes.
However, LSU fans aren?t on boards outlining how Baton Rouge isn?t for everyone.
You could t pay me to live in BR, but LSU fans don?t say that. Why do ours?
yes! The right guy, right hunger, and fit will work out as the leading guy. But online many posters think every candidate wants to come to Town X. Never that easy especially in baseball. The money is not life changing from what sitting P5 coaches already make to move usually. It takes one wanting to win and win big, etc. We have a great town for him hungry to win also.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
When Georgia has 3k at the baseball game they tweet it out as an accomplishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Doesn?t matter to me why the coaches say they are going somewhere or even if it truly doesn?t matter to them.
It?s obviously a part of how college baseball is judged. You can tell by how all the teams tweet out their crowd sizes.
It may not matter to the coaches but It matters to somebody.