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Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:20 PM
Both come out shooting pretty well.

BlackSailsDawg
12-23-2023, 12:27 PM
Both come out shooting pretty well.

We need this game! Massive test.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:28 PM
Our press not very impressive

BlackSailsDawg
12-23-2023, 12:29 PM
Rutgers has recruited very well. So.. true test right here

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:29 PM
Press break not very impressive

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:32 PM
We getting little sloppy and they playing little better D. Cant buy a bucket now

BlackSailsDawg
12-23-2023, 12:35 PM
Our press not very impressive

At all. We are half way going at it. More so to slow the tempo. We look a little gassed.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:37 PM
Finally a bucket. 1/12 in last 8 mins

RocketDawg
12-23-2023, 12:38 PM
Finally a bucket. 1/12 in last 8 mins

And yet the game is now tied.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:38 PM
Battled back to tie. 20-20 at 6:54

parabrave
12-23-2023, 12:38 PM
WTF no live stats om HailState!!!

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:40 PM
Jimmy B looking pretty good though so far against them

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:41 PM
Nice little run. Up 5. Working through Bell

msstate7
12-23-2023, 12:44 PM
As soon as bell left, lay up in the paint for Rutgers. We need tolu

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:44 PM
As soon as bell left, lay up in the paint for Rutgers. We need tolu

Yep. Almost like we gave him the baseline but was slow rotating over

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:48 PM
Matthew’s killed down low with no call and we give up the layup. Terrible no call and possible 4 point swing. 27-24 dogs though

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:53 PM
Hubbard gets his first 2(needs to get going) and then we leave a guy open at the free throw line for 2. Up 3.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 12:55 PM
I love jans, but I wish he'd let the team play it out rather than call a TO. Jans seems to ruin any momentum we have with his offensive TOs

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:56 PM
We hold for last shot, Hubbard gets pocket picked and gives up the 3. Tie game and terrible play to end the half.

parabrave
12-23-2023, 12:56 PM
Is the game on TV?

msudawg1200
12-23-2023, 12:56 PM
Two terrible turnovers to end the half them give up a 3 to let them tie it. Bad

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 12:57 PM
What a putrid end to the half. Woof.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 12:57 PM
What a putrid end to the half. Woof.

Watch our offense after a TO by Jans. It's almost always a disaster, which is crazy

msstate7
12-23-2023, 12:58 PM
Is the game on TV?

Big 10 network

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:58 PM
I love jans, but I wish he'd let the team play it out rather than call a TO. Jans seems to ruin any momentum we have with his offensive TOs

We’ll he just let them play to end the half. Is Hubbard an isolation one on one guy to try to get a basket to end the half?? With his size, he seems a spot up shooter to me.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 12:59 PM
Seems when the shot clock is winding down it Jeffries with ball heaving up a 3 too

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:00 PM
We’ll he just let them play to end the half. Is Hubbard an isolation one on one guy to try to get a basket to end the half?? With his size, he seems a spot up shooter to me.

This game has me a little worried about Hubbard for sec play. They've bullied him

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:00 PM
Two terrible turnovers to end the half them give up a 3 to let them tie it. Bad

Very bad last 50 secs

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:01 PM
Seems when the shot clock is winding down it Jeffries with ball heaving up a 3 too

When we're in that spot, he's a decent option... he can always get off a shot with his length, and that gives us a shot at a rebound bc he isn't gonna make it

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:02 PM
Yep. Can’t create. They’ve smothered him pretty good. Seems he took a frustration deep 3 because he wasn’t on the board

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 01:02 PM
Good news: We're whooping them on the boards. 22 rebounds v. 13 for them. 8 off reb. for us v. 5 for them. Keep that up and we'll be fine.

Bad news: Turnovers. And DJ has decided he's Steph Curry again.

CaptainObvious
12-23-2023, 01:03 PM
We hold for last shot, Hubbard gets pocket picked and gives up the 3. Tie game and terrible play to end the half.

Well there is nothing new there. Doesn't matter who the coach is or who the chess pieces on the floor, State is going to botch the end of the first half!

The final score is all that matters but there are always head scratching plays for State. Like how many times does DJ have the ball in his hands dribbling around with the shot clock running down? 3 times he had to take a poor shot in that situation.

What IS odd is that officials have not been whistle happy in a game with a Big 10 team playing.

And finally, announcers stop with the bull crap about this being a neutral site game. You would have to be a blithering idiot to not look up and see 95% wearing red! They kind of had a short drive to get there too.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:03 PM
When we're in that spot, he's a decent option... he can always get off a shot with his length, and that gives us a shot at a rebound bc he isn't gonna make it

Ha. Funny but not funny. Needs to sling it with at least 4 to 5 secs left for possible put back!

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:05 PM
Well there is nothing new there. Doesn't matter who the coach is or who the chess pieces on the floor, State is going to botch the end of the first half!

The final score is all that matters but there are always head scratching plays for State. Like how many times does DJ have the ball in his hands dribbling around with the shot clock running down? 3 times he had to take a poor shot in that situation.

What IS odd is that officials have not been whistle happy in a game with a Big 10 team playing.

And finally, announcers stop with the bull crap about this being a neutral site game. You would have to be a blithering idiot to not look up and see 95% wearing red! They kind of had a short drive to get there too.

Yeah refs have let them play down low. Been banging pretty good on rebounds. Horrible missed call on a lay up for us though

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 01:05 PM
Also, I'd like to mention how stupid it is that we're playing a "neutral" site game 30 minutes away from Rutgers' campus.

We'd be better off playing in their arena. A win would mean more and a loss would mean less. But they get the same home court atmosphere with the benefit of it being "neutral." So dumb

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:10 PM
When does Keyshawn start taking mins from DJ?

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 01:11 PM
When does Keyshawn start taking mins from DJ?

When DJ stops being an elite defender

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:14 PM
Thank you WFCA for going to Commercial break in the middle of a fast break/

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:16 PM
Rutgers coach is a Moron

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:17 PM
Jimmy bell playing good.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:18 PM
Good foul Hubbard... that was gonna be a basket

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 01:18 PM
Rutgers coach is a Moron

Yeah, no reason to have left him in after that 3rd foul. Now they're in trouble

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:19 PM
Also, I'd like to mention how stupid it is that we're playing a "neutral" site game 30 minutes away from Rutgers' campus.

We'd be better off playing in their arena. A win would mean more and a loss would mean less. But they get the same home court atmosphere with the benefit of it being "neutral." So dumb

Yeah this is baffling

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:21 PM
Yeah, no reason to have left him in after that 3rd foul. Now they're in trouble

Yes. Must make them pay

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:23 PM
Hubbard is not playing well

somebodyshotmypaw
12-23-2023, 01:24 PM
Jeffries with 5 three point attempts already. Sigh……

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:25 PM
That's horseshit. Foul is right, but he was on the floor

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:25 PM
That was a horrible continuation. Foul on the floor. 2 awful calls now

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 01:26 PM
Jimmy Bell is dominating these dudes

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:26 PM
Can't wait to have tolu back to backup bell

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:26 PM
That's horseshit. Foul is right, but he was on the floor

Yes. All kinds of shit wrong with that

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:29 PM
If Hubbard weren't having his worse game as a dawg, this would be a blow out. Maybe he will get hot soon

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:31 PM
If Hubbard weren't having his worse game as a dawg, this would be a blow out. Maybe he will get hot soon

Good job by them. No open looks. Yes, hopefully can get some shots off and get hot

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:35 PM
Hubbard with a top flight screen

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:36 PM
Injury layup, Rutgers cold, pretty good D, and nice pick and flush by Matthews= dawgs largest lead!

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:37 PM
Since Cam started using his body advantage he has become a monster/

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:38 PM
And Austin Williams in his 8th year of collegiate sports(

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:38 PM
Take it straight to 11 now!

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:39 PM
That guy getting to the basket on cam was impressive

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 01:41 PM
Moore can’t make a layup!! 3 or 4 drives coming up empty

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:43 PM
Moore can’t make a layup!! 3 or 4 drives coming up empty

That was bad, but he's usually good at the basket.

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:45 PM
Any BW sightings on the Tube.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:45 PM
Jans drew up a nice open shot. Not sure I like Moore taking the shot, but he hit it

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:46 PM
Serious question - do these refs think this is the nba?

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:47 PM
Dam DJ actually drives for a basket

parabrave
12-23-2023, 01:54 PM
Thank you Rutgers for taking that TO. We needed it worse than they did.

Goldendawg
12-23-2023, 01:54 PM
This team relaxes when they get a two digit lead. Drives me nuts.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:54 PM
They seem to make runs every time jones is in the game. Get him out

BlackSailsDawg
12-23-2023, 01:56 PM
Thank you Rutgers for taking that TO. We needed it worse than they did.

That literally reminded me of Stans!

CaptainObvious
12-23-2023, 01:58 PM
I know Ben Howland was horrible using timeouts either at the wrong time or poorly designed plays either defense or offense. I guess the jury is still out on Jan's. But a couple of knucklehead decisions down the stretch of the first half set him up to flip the script here at the end. Free throws are the difference.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 01:59 PM
Cam's last 2 games are monstrous. If he keeps it up, he may be our best player

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:00 PM
BELL all over the boards

chef dixon
12-23-2023, 02:00 PM
Hey guys guess what? We are good

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:01 PM
Win by double digits guys!!! Finish!!

msstate7
12-23-2023, 02:01 PM
What an impressive win. We faced a team that likes to bully, and we bullied them. Hubbard had a horrible game, and are about to win maybe by double digits. This team has major potential

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:02 PM
Hey guys guess what? We are good

I hope Tolu takes us to another level and the rest of the team doesn’t relax when he shows up.

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:03 PM
The big ? is how do we use JB when Toulu gets back?? You just can't sit that production.

msstate7
12-23-2023, 02:04 PM
Cry more, refs

msstate7
12-23-2023, 02:04 PM
The big ? is how do we use JB when Toulu gets back?? You just can't sit that production.

50/50. Both are fresh and effective

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:04 PM
What an impressive win. We faced a team that likes to bully, and we bullied them. Hubbard had a horrible game, and are about to win maybe by double digits. This team has major potential

Richard said that we went inside instead of putting up alot of 3s and that is the major reason..

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:05 PM
Don’t piss double digits away!!!

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:05 PM
Quit dribbling DJ just pass the dam ball.

KOdawg1
12-23-2023, 02:06 PM
Good win in what should count as a road game, but instead will go down as a neutral site win for reasons I cannot explain

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:06 PM
Thank you

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:06 PM
This is a good win for State.

msudawg1200
12-23-2023, 02:07 PM
Big arse win

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:07 PM
Good win in what should count as a road game, but instead will go down as a neutral site win for reasons I cannot explain

If you play within 100 mi of your arena, that should be a home game. Very nice win DAWGS!!

chef dixon
12-23-2023, 02:09 PM
I hope Tolu takes us to another level and the rest of the team doesn’t relax when he shows up.

Not taking anything away from Tolu but I think we are already good. He will make us bigger and stronger but guard play is what I think takes you to the next level when it matters most

msudawg1200
12-23-2023, 02:11 PM
Good win in what should count as a road game, but instead will go down as a neutral site win for reasons I cannot explain

I guess it's the same as our Tupelo game vs North Texas counting as a neutral game.

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:12 PM
Richard also pointed out that the Rutgers players couldn't match up with the big bodies.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:12 PM
Not taking anything away from Tolu but I think we are already good. He will make us bigger and stronger but guard play is what I think takes you to the next level when it matters most

Usually takes good guard play to make a deep run. Limit those turnovers and pop a 3 when needed. Tolu will demand double teams. He got to find the open man and we got to knock it down.

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 02:15 PM
Richard also pointed out that the Rutgers players couldn't match up with the big bodies.

A mismatch today for sure. Foul trouble revealed it. They couldnt match up. Awesome job by Jans for seeing Bell and getting him playing like this. We burned the free throws up today too for a change!!

ZedFedder
12-23-2023, 02:16 PM
Jans is a great coach. That Southern loss was a wakeup call.

On another note, Rutgers has two of the top three players coming in next year. One is from NJ but the other from Georgia. Weird

gtowndawg
12-23-2023, 02:17 PM
Great win. What a game by Bell.

LC Dawg
12-23-2023, 02:19 PM
Great win considering our leading scorer didn't make a fg.

StarkVegasSteve
12-23-2023, 02:21 PM
Jimmy Bell may be the biggest transfer portal pickup we have ever had in any sport. He has saved us in the absence of Tolu.

Also….how the hell is that considered a neutral game. That was about as neutral as Normandy on D Day.

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:28 PM
One big thing about this win is that it prepares the team for the Tournament when you have to travel far away in an unfriendly environment no matter your seeding. Texas anyone>

Goldendawg
12-23-2023, 02:31 PM
Quit dribbling DJ just pass the dam ball.

He is going to cost us in SEC games if he continues to think he is a point guard. He ends up with the ball in his hands far too many times as the shot clock runs out to shoot a desperation shot. Needs to stay at small forward when he belongs. JMO.

parabrave
12-23-2023, 02:35 PM
He is going to cost us in SEC games if he continues to think he is a point guard. He ends up with the ball in his hands far too many times as the shoot clock runs out to shot a desperation shot. Needs to stay at small forward when he belongs. JMO.

and when he thinks he is the 2nd coming of Curry. He needs to look at what Cam has done since he decided to go to the basket. Guys that big are gonna do at least 2 things. Get foulded alot or create more opportunities for Toulu or other players/ Which creates more scoring opps for you. Cam has found that out.l

BlackSailsDawg
12-23-2023, 02:48 PM
50/50. Both are fresh and effective

We will see Bell get 12-15 minutes

Prentis
12-23-2023, 03:06 PM
Like I said earlier in the year. Jimmy Bell is a better big than Tolu, especially on the offensive end of the court.

Rawdawg
12-23-2023, 03:19 PM
He is going to cost us in SEC games if he continues to think he is a point guard. He ends up with the ball in his hands far too many times as the shot clock runs out to shoot a desperation shot. Needs to stay at small forward when he belongs. JMO.

Sadly you?re entitled to it.

MoreCowbell
12-23-2023, 03:20 PM
Does Bell only have 1 year remaining?

CaptainObvious
12-23-2023, 04:08 PM
Sadly you?re entitled to it.

I'll allow it.

NCMSTFAN
12-23-2023, 04:54 PM
Like I said earlier in the year. Jimmy Bell is a better big than Tolu, especially on the offensive end of the court.

Bell isn't as skilled offensively as Tolu but he is bigger, stronger and more physical than Tolu.. he was a great pickup

Goldendawg
12-23-2023, 05:07 PM
Big lineup:

Tolu at center.
Bell at PF.
Murphy at SF.
Matthews at SG.

And: Jeffries at PG.

Lots of ********** for all of this except Tolu. We do have many good options to mix and match when Tolu gets back. Hail State!

parabrave
12-23-2023, 05:16 PM
Big lineup:

Tolu at center.
Bell at PF.
Murphy at SF.
Matthews at SG.

And: Jeffries at PG.

Lots of ********** for all of this except Tolu. We do have many good options to mix and match when Tolu gets back. Hail State!

Just as long as DJ can't shoot the ball but then this makes him Dribble which can be a problem/

MetEdDawg
12-23-2023, 05:44 PM
I don't know how you fix it across all of college basketball, but the fact this is considered a neutral site win against Rutgers for a game that was played in an arena in Newark New Jersey is ridiculous.

Prentis
12-23-2023, 06:45 PM
Bell game offensively, runs circles around Tolu.

99jc
12-23-2023, 07:22 PM
Bell game offensively, runs circles around Tolu.

No way in hell Bell sits when Tulu gets back. Bell is better than Tulu overall game more complete and is better in the low post. DJ Jeffries needs to ride the pine. I would put a foot up his ass the next time he has delusions of being a point guard.

chef dixon
12-23-2023, 07:51 PM
DJ is important. It's not aesthetically pleasing but he is important to our success

parabrave
12-23-2023, 07:56 PM
No way in hell Bell sits when Tulu gets back. Bell is better than Tulu overall game more complete and is better in the low post. DJ Jeffries needs to ride the pine. I would put a foot up his ass the next time he has delusions of being a point guard.

Thats what I've been saying but DJ is built more for a SF roll. But I would like to see Keyshawn get more playing time and see if he can match DJ on the Defensive side.

somebodyshotmypaw
12-23-2023, 08:41 PM
DJ is important. It's not aesthetically pleasing but he is important to our success

DJ is very important. But he needs to reduce the number of low percentage shots he takes.

MoreCowbell
12-23-2023, 09:14 PM
Does Bell only have 1 year remaining?

Bump

msugolf
12-23-2023, 09:27 PM
Bell game offensively, runs circles around Tolu.

Hahaha wow

NCMSTFAN
12-23-2023, 09:39 PM
Bell game offensively, runs circles around Tolu.

You don't sound like you know much about basketball. Bell is awesome and I love what he is doing for us but he comes nowhere close to Tolu offensively. That being said we need him going forward, Jans has gotten the most out of Bell than any other coach has. Prior to this year Bell's highest averages for his career was around 5ppg and 5 rpg.... he's almost doubled those stats with us....... but he's not Tolu Smith on offense

Bdawg
12-23-2023, 11:15 PM
Bell game offensively, runs circles around Tolu.

No offense, but how the hell you come up with that? Bell has been a great surprise though.

Prentis
12-24-2023, 02:45 AM
No offense, but how the hell you come up with that? Bell has been a great surprise though.

Tolu has no post up moves, he cannot face up to the basket, he's iffy at best at the free throw line. Tell me, what can Tolu do on the offensive end better than Bell.

smootness
12-24-2023, 06:52 AM
Tolu has no post up moves, he cannot face up to the basket, he's iffy at best at the free throw line. Tell me, what can Tolu do on the offensive end better than Bell.

Tolu is much better in the low post than Bell.

99jc
12-24-2023, 07:50 AM
Tolu is much better in the low post than Bell.

No he is not! We just have to agree to disagree!

msstate7
12-24-2023, 07:58 AM
Tolu avg'd over 15 ppg last season. Bell is at 9.6, and he hasn't faced one sec team yet. Tolu is better than bell, but bell appears to be much better than McNair. Both will play

Bdawg
12-24-2023, 03:56 PM
Tolu has no post up moves, he cannot face up to the basket, he's iffy at best at the free throw line. Tell me, what can Tolu do on the offensive end better than Bell.

Moves or no moves. I?ll have to go with production. Tolu 15.5+ points and 8.5 rebounds(last year). Bell 8.9 points and rebounds(which is great and exceeds all expectations) against no SEC competition.