Got to give Lebby some love

[Coach34]

He came in and has busted his ass Crootin. He is the best Crooter since Jackie. He embraces it. He knows it is the future. He has a great plan and is rolling

[MabenMaroon]

This ^^^

[Bdawg]

Hope he can make some headlines this spring!! I think he has done about as good as he could given the circumstances. Just get Stonka and Hill.

[Bothrops]

He's had to have boundless energy to get this class together with the portal guys. Great job getting Akharaiyi away from Freeze!

[HoopsDawg]

He's made the best of a very tough situation. Croom had Mullen's first class set up for him.

[Coursesuper]

He came in and has busted his ass Crootin. He is the best Crooter since Jackie. He embraces it. He knows it is the future. He has a great plan and is rolling

Having a real plan and knowing how to implement that is huge. Hopefully this carries through for the future.

[viverlibre]

Concur, hopefully we all get on board and start pulling in the same direction like our brethren to the north. We have to ditch the negativity and constant criticism.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is a guy that had an inside look of how Kiffin built OM to where they are and how quickly he was able to do it. Make no mistake, they do not like what we have going on. If Lebby would have been the hire last offseason our recruiting would look miles different. And he did a hell of a job with the little time he had.

[Todd4State]

This is a guy that had an inside look of how Kiffin built OM to where they are and how quickly he was able to do it. Make no mistake, they do not like what we have going on. If Lebby would have been the hire last offseason our recruiting would look miles different. And he did a hell of a job with the little time he had.

Hutzler was at Ole Miss with them too.

And it looks like our OL coach is the 180* opposite of Hevesy when it comes to recruiting o-linemen.

Add in Bumphis and Turner (I know) and it's a really good recruiting staff.

[C&DDAWG32]

I'm excited about it. Ready to see how it all shakes out. Any of ya'll going to the spring game?

[GoDawgz]

This is a guy that had an inside look of how Kiffin built OM to where they are and how quickly he was able to do it. Make no mistake, they do not like what we have going on. If Lebby would have been the hire last offseason our recruiting would look miles different. And he did a hell of a job with the little time he had.

This right here. Lame knows Leb has the blue print and is probably better at the execution of the plan.
Time will tell but you have to like the quick start.

[Coursesuper]

We have 30 new faces on the roster so far with potential for 3 more very soon. How many more will we add to that?

[BankerDog]

Hutzler was at Ole Miss with them too.

And it looks like our OL coach is the 180* opposite of Hevesy when it comes to recruiting o-linemen.

Add in Bumphis and Turner (I know) and it's a really good recruiting staff.

Your hatred of Hevesy is laughable. He was the best the OL coach we have ever hard and you truly despise the guy. It?s crazy. Was he too tough on your MC boy Desper?

[confucius say]

This is a guy that had an inside look of how Kiffin built OM to where they are and how quickly he was able to do it. Make no mistake, they do not like what we have going on. If Lebby would have been the hire last offseason our recruiting would look miles different. And he did a hell of a job with the little time he had.

Maybe that's why lane had the pointed comment at us and lebby yesterday when he said the two programs are going different directions. Reminiscent of Nutt's comment in 2009.

[Offshore Dawg]

Your hatred of Hevesy is laughable. He was the best the OL coach we have ever hard and you truly despise the guy. It?s crazy. Was he too tough on your MC boy Desper?

It was stated here many times that Hevesy was a good coach but didn't like to recruit.

[basedog]

It was stated here many times that Hevesy was a good coach but didn't like to recruit.

I think most coaches don't like recruiting, but many can play the game. I think having good off the field coaches really help or can help with recruiting.

[TheLostDawg]

This is a guy that had an inside look of how Kiffin built OM to where they are and how quickly he was able to do it. Make no mistake, they do not like what we have going on. If Lebby would have been the hire last offseason our recruiting would look miles different. And he did a hell of a job with the little time he had.

Don't forget Selmon making the decision during the season so we were even able to do this

[TheLostDawg]

I think most coaches don't like recruiting, but many can play the game. I think having good off the field coaches really help or can help with recruiting.

Right. He must be forgetting that we had to charge Rufus Warren from TE to lineman because of Hevesy's recruiting. Yeah he was a great line coach but look what he could have done if he'd have gotten some better athletes. Just like Mullen if he'd have recruited and built on his success. There is no telling where we could have been especially with old miss going through all their scandals

[StarkVegasSteve]

It was stated here many times that Hevesy was a good coach but didn't like to recruit.

It was not that he did not like to recruit. He just knew exactly what he wanted. He did not want any primadonnas that were going to be uncoachable. That was to a fault at times, but his evals were damn good

[MetEdDawg]

I think most coaches don't like recruiting, but many can play the game. I think having good off the field coaches really help or can help with recruiting.

Go look at Ryan Day's press conference yesterday when his media folks were telling him the #1 player that they had committed to them signed (they actually had to wait another 8-10 hours for his paperwork to come in).

The toll it looked like just the recruitment for that one kid took on them was ridiculous. I feel bad for these coaches now. I get that they get paid a ton of money. But the toll the current environment seems to be taking on them appears absurd.

[MBDawg601]

Go look at Ryan Day's press conference yesterday when his media folks were telling him the #1 player that they had committed to them signed (they actually had to wait another 8-10 hours for his paperwork to come in).

The toll it looked like just the recruitment for that one kid took on them was ridiculous. I feel bad for these coaches now. I get that they get paid a ton of money. But the toll the current environment seems to be taking on them appears absurd.

I would be more worried if it didn't take a toll on them for how much they are paid. The job should be all consuming with little to no time for anything else.

[Maverick91]

I would be more worried if it didn't take a toll on them for how much they are paid. The job should be all consuming with little to no time for anything else.

There is truth to this, but the weight of the toll that is happening now shouldn't be there. You get in this to coach young men to be the best football player they can be and to hopefully teach them to be great citizens when they leave. Not to be negotiating payouts. What these coaches are having to deal with is bad for the sport. People will say that's just the way it is, but we all know it shouldn't be that way and it can be corrected. What we have now is the definition of kids ruling the roost. The play on the field has been in decline for the past decade if it continues just wait and see how bad the play is in another five years.

These coaches should be spending their time coaching not worrying about pretty much tax free payments going to an 18 year olds just to start the negotiations in another year.

[MBDawg601]

There is truth to this, but the weight of the toll that is happening now shouldn't be there. You get in this to coach young men to be the best football player they can be and to hopefully teach them to be great citizens when they leave. Not to be negotiating payouts. What these coaches are having to deal with is bad for the sport. People will say that's just the way it is, but we all know it shouldn't be that way and it can be corrected. What we have now is the definition of kids ruling the roost. The play on the field has been in decline for the past decade if it continues just wait and see how bad the play is in another five years.

These coaches should be spending their time coaching not worrying about pretty much tax free payments going to an 18 year olds just to start the negotiations in another year.

I get what you're saying. Yeah it is a totally different job now and probably not what they signed up for. Then you have big boosters expecting on the field product more, because they are openly invested in players and the program. Just a crappy time for college sports. Hopefully it will be regulated.

[Todd4State]

Your hatred of Hevesy is laughable. He was the best the OL coach we have ever hard and you truly despise the guy. It?s crazy. Was he too tough on your MC boy Desper?

LOL. The guy was awful at recruiting and was a complete asshole to everyone except apparently you. That has been documented many times. In fact that was a BIG reason why Florida fired him. Guess he was too tough on their guys too huh? Rick Trickett was
better than him by the way. If Hevesy was so good who is he coaching for now?

[Todd4State]

Right. He must be forgetting that we had to charge Rufus Warren from TE to lineman because of Hevesy's recruiting. Yeah he was a great line coach but look what he could have done if he'd have gotten some better athletes. Just like Mullen if he'd have recruited and built on his success. There is no telling where we could have been especially with old miss going through all their scandals

And then we had to move James Carmon from DL to OT one year as well.


It was not that he did not like to recruit. He just knew exactly what he wanted. He did not want any primadonnas that were going to be uncoachable. That was to a fault at times, but his evals were damn good

I remember one cycle he had like two OL committed and then neither one of them qualified. So because of him we literally went a cycle without an o-line recruit.

[Gutter Cobreh]

And then we had to move James Carmon from DL to OT one year as well.

I remember one cycle he had like two OL committed and then neither one of them qualified. So because of him we literally went a cycle without an o-line recruit.

When you combine Mullen's favorite play calls of QB draw or running Holloway up the middle with Hevesy's recruiting... it's mindboggling we were as successful as we were.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And then we had to move James Carmon from DL to OT one year as well.



I remember one cycle he had like two OL committed and then neither one of them qualified. So because of him we literally went a cycle without an o-line recruit.

But did we ever have a bad line under Hev? No. He found a way to put a really good line out there every year that protected the QB and we ran the ball really well, when we had a RB

[Todd4State]

When you combine Mullen's favorite play calls of QB draw or running Holloway up the middle with Hevesy's recruiting... it's mindboggling we were as successful as we were.

That's because Dan could recruit a QB and he had it where literally the QB was doing everything by himself almost. If he had a guy like Dak we could be a lot more diverse- we were able to pass better and not surprisingly 2014-15 were our highest average PPG.


But did we ever have a bad line under Hev? No. He found a way to put a really good line out there every year that protected the QB and we ran the ball really well, when we had a RB

2015 was pretty bad. If we had any other QB not named Dak we probably have a 6-6 season. 2011 and 2012 struggled if I remember correctly. 2016 it took him forever to figure out that Elgton Jenkins should start.

[Dawgface]

He came in and has busted his ass Crootin. He is the best Crooter since Jackie. He embraces it. He knows it is the future. He has a great plan and is rolling

Agree. I look forward to 2 to 3 years down the road. Got to be patient.