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CaptainObvious
12-19-2023, 09:14 PM
In his first bracket of the season, no State in it and Ole Miss in as a 10 seed.

TALL DAWG
12-19-2023, 09:20 PM
And, who is Mike DeCourcey?
Never heard of him.

PGHBulldogBG
12-19-2023, 09:22 PM
Both too low. Should each be around an 8 seed but I don?t know who that is

SteelCurtain74
12-19-2023, 09:24 PM
I believe he's with Fox Sports. I saw his "bracket" earlier today and just had to laugh. Jans and crew need to finish out non-conference and have a strong start to conference play.

msstate7
12-19-2023, 09:35 PM
It just shows this guy is a moron. We're 35th in NET without our best player that is expected to be back soon

confucius say
12-19-2023, 09:37 PM
Both too low. Should each be around an 8 seed but I don?t know who that is

OM isn't even in the top 60 in net. Despite being 11-0. That's how bad their schedule is.

DEDawg
12-19-2023, 09:45 PM
Unfortunately we did it to ourselves with the southern loss. These guys dont watch all our games, they go off of records and analytics. Wont matter once conference play starts if we take care of business

msstate7
12-19-2023, 09:49 PM
Unfortunately we did it to ourselves with the southern loss. These guys dont watch all our games, they go off of records and analytics. Wont matter once conference play starts if we take care of business
Uhhh...
Net #35
Kenpom #31
RPI #31

DEDawg
12-19-2023, 09:51 PM
Uhhh...
Net #35
Kenpom #31
RPI #31

You already posted our net like 3 messages up

msstate7
12-19-2023, 09:52 PM
You already posted our net like 3 messages up

And I added Kenpom and rpi. What rankings are you referencing that pull us down?

lastmajordog
12-19-2023, 10:03 PM
I watched on om game a week ago......they have a solid middle four but their two BIG MEN are very green....a great power forward like Wiley Peck would eat their lunch......they are undefeated but very much beatable.......

CaptainObvious
12-19-2023, 10:06 PM
Mike DeCoursey has been around for 40 years. A sports writer for the Cincinnati Enquirer for most of that time. He focuses strictly on basketball. He used to be a guest on Memphis Sports Talk Radio before Sports Talk Radio was a thing. He has written for SI along with other magazines. He is a basketball junkie!

Like most though, he focuses mostly on the Top programs.

Quaoarsking
12-19-2023, 11:07 PM
We are in on 19 of 23 brackets on http://bracketmatrix.com/

Averaging a #9 seed. Seems about right. 3 of the 4 that don't include us have us in the First 4 Out.

LC Dawg
12-19-2023, 11:13 PM
Uhhh...
Net #35
Kenpom #31
RPI #31

Yep. And if DeCourcey doesn't look at that in addition to our best player coming back soon I don't think he's even worth mentioning.

somebodyshotmypaw
12-20-2023, 01:12 AM
Brackets in mid-December are like bowl projections in late September. Maybe we should play some meaningful games first. It’s the stupid media.

Can someone tell me the first four out and last four in for the 2028 NCAA tourney? I need to get a jump on it.

RockyDog
12-20-2023, 09:57 AM
Mississippi looks like a team that is going to cruise thru the pre-conference and then finish like 6-12 in the league. Their KenPom and NET are in the 80s..

R2Dawg
12-20-2023, 10:45 AM
In his first bracket of the season, no State in it and Ole Miss in as a 10 seed.

Either an idiot or got us confused with OM again.

Why is OM such a media hog having done nothing.

Matt3467
12-20-2023, 11:14 AM
I don't think much of this team either. We suck at shooting. We love shooting the 3 (I think we're 2nd or 3rd in the conference doing it) and we're 3rd from last making them. Our FG% and FT% is bottom half of the conference. Where was our NET and RPI going into conference play last year when we started 11-0 and that was with the leagues worst 3p% and FT%.

Look at our last several years. We win 9,10,11 games going into conference play and everyone is optimistic. It's the same story every year.

Irondawg
12-20-2023, 11:26 AM
Wonder what our net would be without that Southern loss

somebodyshotmypaw
12-20-2023, 12:19 PM
I don't think much of this team either. We suck at shooting. We love shooting the 3 (I think we're 2nd or 3rd in the conference doing it) and we're 3rd from last making them. Our FG% and FT% is bottom half of the conference. Where was our NET and RPI going into conference play last year when we started 11-0 and that was with the leagues worst 3p% and FT%.

Look at our last several years. We win 9,10,11 games going into conference play and everyone is optimistic. It's the same story every year.

One of our big problems on shooting 3-pointers is WHO is shooting them. Two years ago, DJ Jeffries was 3rd on the team in attempts behind Molinar and Shak Moore. Jeffries shot 29.3%. Last year Jeffries led the team in attempts while shooting 27.2%. This year Jeffries is second in attempts while shooting 23.8%. At what point does Jeffries realize he isn't a three-point shooter and should reduce his volume? Also, Cam Matthews is shooting 6 for 49 last season and this season combined (almost 1 attempt per game). If you are shooting 12.2% on three-pointers I don't think you should shoot any at all. And that is possible because Tolu had zero attempts last season and Bell has zero attempts this season.

msstate7
12-20-2023, 12:36 PM
Wonder what our net would be without that Southern loss

They're in the low 200s, so I'd guess high teens

Johnson85
12-20-2023, 03:41 PM
One of our big problems on shooting 3-pointers is WHO is shooting them. Two years ago, DJ Jeffries was 3rd on the team in attempts behind Molinar and Shak Moore. Jeffries shot 29.3%. Last year Jeffries led the team in attempts while shooting 27.2%. This year Jeffries is second in attempts while shooting 23.8%. At what point does Jeffries realize he isn't a three-point shooter and should reduce his volume? Also, Cam Matthews is shooting 6 for 49 last season and this season combined (almost 1 attempt per game). If you are shooting 12.2% on three-pointers I don't think you should shoot any at all. And that is possible because Tolu had zero attempts last season and Bell has zero attempts this season.

If he's shooting around 1 attempt per game, that seems reasonable for that 3pt percentage? Sure, it'd probably be better if it's lower, but as much as he plays, it seems plausible that he ends up open for three late in the shot clock around once a game. Tolu is basically never going to end up with the ball outside the arc late in the shot clock unless it's just a loose ball that he chases down after a scramble.

somebodyshotmypaw
12-20-2023, 06:48 PM
If he's shooting around 1 attempt per game, that seems reasonable for that 3pt percentage? Sure, it'd probably be better if it's lower, but as much as he plays, it seems plausible that he ends up open for three late in the shot clock around once a game. Tolu is basically never going to end up with the ball outside the arc late in the shot clock unless it's just a loose ball that he chases down after a scramble.

Good point on Matthews shooting some as the shot clock expires. At the moment our best 3-point shooters are Hubbard at 33 for 82 (40.2%) and Taylor at 6 for 15 (40.0%). Shawn Jones, DJ Jeffries, and Trey Fort are all below 30%. I want to kick Jeffries whenever he shoots too many threes. In 2.5 years at MSU he is 79 for 288 (27.4%). If I was the opposition I would let Jeffries shoot open 3 pointers.

State82
12-20-2023, 08:40 PM
Wonder what our net would be without that Southern loss

I was wondering the same thing the other day but my interest waned to the point I forgot about it until you just mentioned it.

Bothrops
12-20-2023, 10:44 PM
In his first bracket of the season, no State in it and Ole Miss in as a 10 seed.

Who is Mike DeSorcery?

CaptainObvious
12-20-2023, 10:57 PM
Who is Mike DeSorcery?

Identified on page 1.