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Really Clark?
11-22-2023, 08:42 PM
It's coming out now, it was shared yesterday to me from someone on this board before any other sources, that we are preparing for a press conference for our new coach. Shout out to that poster for the heads up before anyone else!!

Cowbell
11-22-2023, 08:45 PM
I'm hearing it's gonna be good news

662dawg
11-22-2023, 08:46 PM
It's coming out now, it was shared yesterday to me from someone on this board before any other sources, that we are preparing for a press conference for our new coach. Shout out to that poster for the heads up before anyone else!!

So are we going to be happy or not? Lol

TrapGame
11-22-2023, 08:46 PM
Scott Frost, right? ****

was21
11-22-2023, 08:49 PM
So are we going to be happy or not? Lol

Regardless of who it is, some will be and some won't be.

civildawg
11-22-2023, 08:49 PM
I'm scared

BeardoMSU
11-22-2023, 08:59 PM
Rosie saying the same.

BigDawg81
11-22-2023, 09:01 PM
It is Odom isn?t it?

bigbub50
11-22-2023, 09:01 PM
It's coming out now, it was shared yesterday to me from someone on this board before any other sources, that we are preparing for a press conference for our new coach. Shout out to that poster for the heads up before anyone else!!

Do u know who? Or do you just know we have decided? Not asking you to spill the beans, I know u lose sources that way.

bigbub50
11-22-2023, 09:05 PM
If it?s announced right after this wkend, would that automatically eliminate the guys coaching during championship wkend?

Really Clark?
11-22-2023, 09:05 PM
I don't know who yet. I'm trying to find out but have 2 names I'm trying to confirm. I can confirm it is NOT Scott Frost!! That's for you Trap. Lol

If it's one I was told, most will be pretty happy.

Cowbell
11-22-2023, 09:12 PM
I don't know who yet. I'm trying to find out but have 2 names I'm trying to confirm. I can confirm it is NOT Scott Frost!! That's for you Trap. Lol

If it's one I was told, most will be pretty happy.

Cue a Bert thread in 5....4....3.....

Coursesuper
11-22-2023, 09:14 PM
It's coming out now, it was shared yesterday to me from someone on this board before any other sources, that we are preparing for a press conference for our new coach. Shout out to that poster for the heads up before anyone else!!

You’re welcome.

Commercecomet24
11-22-2023, 09:19 PM
I can confirm we've hired Saban. We made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Once again: Saban will be our head coach.

ETA: same chance as Scott Frost lol

Really Clark?
11-22-2023, 09:19 PM
You’re welcome.

Thank you sir! I didn't want to mention your name if you didn't want it known.

BigDawg81
11-22-2023, 09:23 PM
It?s starting to go around now but no names

RockyDog
11-22-2023, 09:27 PM
Hearing Kyle Whittingham and Chris Petersen as co-head coaches

chef dixon
11-22-2023, 09:30 PM
Bob Stoops

confucius say
11-22-2023, 09:31 PM
Steve said the same thing this morning.
But he said just because the presser is being planned, that doesn't mean we have a set guy yet. Take that fwiw

civildawg
11-22-2023, 09:35 PM
Steve said the same thing this morning.
But he said just because the presser is being planned, that doesn't mean we have a set guy yet. Take that fwiw

That's a whole bunch of nothing then. I wish people would stop giving Steve money

bigbub50
11-22-2023, 09:38 PM
If the presser is Sunday or Monday, that takes a lot of guys off the board that would be coaching during championship wkend. That really only leaves a guy or two. Elko isn?t coaching that wkend. Who else?

Are Liberty, UNLV, Tulane, and Troy all playing in conference championships?

And I don?t buy we are planning a press conference but don?t have our guy yet. That makes no sense to me.

dawggoneit
11-22-2023, 09:38 PM
Is it the norm to plan a press conference with nothing to announce?

confucius say
11-22-2023, 09:40 PM
I guess it could mean planning how the presser is going to be, not necessarily when it's going to be. I have no idea though.

Really Clark?
11-22-2023, 09:43 PM
We don't prepare without our guy being found. It's a coaching search, can't say something can't happen at the 11th hour but we wouldn't be planning otherwise.

preachermatt83
11-22-2023, 09:46 PM
Steve said the same thing this morning.
But he said just because the presser is being planned, that doesn't mean we have a set guy yet. Take that fwiw

Steve knows NOTHING! Dude strait up said the other day we hadn?t interviewed anyone bc the season was still going on. Lol

Todd4State
11-22-2023, 09:47 PM
I'm assuming it's Fritz.

DownwardDawg
11-22-2023, 09:52 PM
I'm assuming it's Fritz.

We could certainly do a lot worse than Fritz.

HoopsDawg
11-22-2023, 09:53 PM
I'm assuming it's Fritz.

We had a face to face with him so very possible.

BigDawg81
11-22-2023, 09:55 PM
I'm assuming it's Fritz. Have we talked to Fritz? Did we talk to Elko? We talked to Odom. We talked to Sumrall.

WinningIsRelentless
11-22-2023, 09:57 PM
@@@

basedog
11-22-2023, 09:57 PM
Have we talked to Fritz? Did we talk to Elko? We talked to Odom. We talked to Sumrall.

For some reason I like Sumrall the best of this group. He seems to be younger and with a higher potential in my eyes.

mparkerfd20
11-22-2023, 10:04 PM
How?s the weather in Toledo????

I've heard it doesn't hold a candle to weather in other places.

The Federalist Engineer
11-22-2023, 10:04 PM
Bob Stoops

I'll take Bob as the new AD

preachermatt83
11-22-2023, 10:05 PM
How?s the weather in Toledo????

Candle ?

msugolf
11-22-2023, 10:10 PM
I'm assuming it's Fritz.

Better hope not or else go ahead and pencil in another coaching search in 3 years

Todd4State
11-22-2023, 10:10 PM
Have we talked to Fritz? Did we talk to Elko? We talked to Odom. We talked to Sumrall.

We've talked to Fritz. Elko I'm not sure.

The Federalist Engineer
11-22-2023, 10:12 PM
We could certainly do a lot worse than Fritz.

He just beat Tom Herman's FAU 24-8 this year in Miami

Beat Lincoln Riley in the Cotton Bowl last year, epic game

Beat Chris Klieman in Manhattan last year

Really Clark?
11-22-2023, 10:14 PM
We've talked to Fritz. Elko I'm not sure.

We talked with Elko too

defiantdog
11-22-2023, 10:19 PM
We talked with Elko too
And I think A&M looks at Elko as a gamble

viverlibre
11-22-2023, 10:21 PM
He just beat Tom Herman's FAU 24-8 this year in Miami

Beat Lincoln Riley in the Cotton Bowl last year, epic game

Beat Chris Klieman in Manhattan last year

Check out his 2016-2021 record record. What he's done these last two years has been with a generational QB.

BigDawg81
11-22-2023, 10:22 PM
We talked with Elko too
So Elko it is. I?m not mad at it.

mparkerfd20
11-22-2023, 10:24 PM
Did we ever talk with Jason Candle even? I've heard his name more than once today.

Dawgface
11-22-2023, 10:24 PM
So Elko it is. I?m not mad at it.

That would be nice if so.....

NCDawg
11-22-2023, 10:26 PM
For some reason I like Sumrall the best of this group. He seems to be younger and with a higher potential in my eyes.

I agree. He seems to be the best of the bunch.

DownwardDawg
11-22-2023, 10:29 PM
For some reason I like Sumrall the best of this group. He seems to be younger and with a higher potential in my eyes.

I like Sumrall a lot.

Commercecomet24
11-22-2023, 10:34 PM
Did we ever talk with Jason Candle even? I've heard his name more than once today.

Always a possibility

bigbub50
11-22-2023, 10:39 PM
I knew an asst coach at Kentucky (in another sport) while sumrall was there and a guy that works for Troy. Both say the same thing. Sumrall is going to be a star in this profession. He values relationships with his players. And he has had two good records at Troy. I think he would be on the short list for Kentucky if stoops ever left. He would be a gamble with no power 5 head experience, but ppl that know him speak very highly. I remember him going ape on an official in his first game at Troy when they were playing at ole miss. I like a little fire from the head guy occasionally on the sidelines. Haven?t had that since Mullen. Jackie Wayne used to get pissed once or twice a season as well.

PGHBulldogBG
11-22-2023, 10:49 PM
I would love Jason Candle I had no idea that was even a possibility. He goes near the top of the list if true

Commercecomet24
11-22-2023, 10:54 PM
Candles a dang good coach. You just never know.

BuckyIsAB****
11-22-2023, 10:57 PM
Its someone from North Carolina i believe

BeardoMSU
11-22-2023, 11:00 PM
Its someone from North Carolina i believe

Oh...

parabrave
11-22-2023, 11:04 PM
Well whats Farmdogs agent sources say about this??

BigDawg81
11-22-2023, 11:07 PM
Its someone from North Carolina i believe somebody told me that and that only leaves 2 from NC. Elko or Doeren

662dawg
11-22-2023, 11:08 PM
It's Jeff Lebby 😉

HancockCountyDog
11-22-2023, 11:11 PM
So Elko it is. I?m not mad at it.

Elko would be a great fit.

Turfdawg67
11-22-2023, 11:44 PM
It's coming out now, it was shared yesterday to me from someone on this board before any other sources, that we are preparing for a press conference for our new coach. Shout out to that poster for the heads up before anyone else!!

Hmmm... Coursesuper DM'd you.

Schultzy
11-23-2023, 12:23 AM
I want Odom bc he is the the reason their current HC is succeeding and would have won there if it weren’t for the scandal their president created when he was their HC.
Drink is winning with his players. Plus he’s like 9-2 this year

Cooterpoot
11-23-2023, 12:23 AM
Well, well, well that got sideways reallll fast hmm

Cooterpoot
11-23-2023, 12:27 AM
I want Odom bc he is the the reason their current HC is succeeding and would have won there if it weren?t for the scandal their president created when he was their HC.
Drink is winning with his players. Plus he?s like 9-2 this year

Dude, he recruited in the 40s and 50s. He didn't do squat there except less than both coaches other side of his dumb ass.
He also has a significant buyout that we'd look foolish paying. It comes down to Fritz and Lebby it seems.
One close to being done, one getting started. My money is on this going on til maybe Monday. We should know soon. Let's see if we're the same old MSU or try something new.
Merry Turkey Day an Go to hell OM!

bobcat91
11-23-2023, 12:36 AM
Lebbys name starting to become more prominent

Schultzy
11-23-2023, 12:37 AM
Dude, he recruited in the 40s and 50s. He didn't do squat there except less than both coaches other side of his dumb ass.
He also has a significant buyout that we'd look foolish paying. It comes down to Fritz and Lebby it seems.
One close to being done, one getting started. My money is on this going on til maybe Monday. We should know soon. Let's see if we're the same old MSU or try something new.
Merry Turkey Day an Go to hell OM!

When would Missouri recruit higher than that ever?

Westdawg
11-23-2023, 12:42 AM
I?ve not even thought about Jason Candle!! He?s been at Toledo so long and thrived there. That?s actually a GREAT coach and has had sustained success as a position coach, an OC, and then taking over making huge strides as the HC there.

Tater
11-23-2023, 12:46 AM
Facts I know:

Selmon and Lebby have talked multiple times.

Lebby was not in Norman today.

A plane just took off from OKC that's owned by Maroon Air, LLC

Maverick91
11-23-2023, 01:07 AM
This thread is getting sad. Clark said we would mostly be happy. I'm leaning on that.

Todd4State
11-23-2023, 02:27 AM
Dude, he recruited in the 40s and 50s. He didn't do squat there except less than both coaches other side of his dumb ass.
He also has a significant buyout that we'd look foolish paying. It comes down to Fritz and Lebby it seems.
One close to being done, one getting started. My money is on this going on til maybe Monday. We should know soon. Let's see if we're the same old MSU or try something new.
Merry Turkey Day an Go to hell OM!

So the main issue is his recruiting + the buyout?

That actually seems reasonable to me because as I have said numerous time we need someone that will improve our recruiting department.

Todd4State
11-23-2023, 02:29 AM
This thread is getting sad. Clark said we would mostly be happy. I'm leaning on that.

Honestly, I would be fine with any of the names mentioned.

There is no perfect coach out there- well maybe Bill Walsh was the closest to me IMO but anyway.

I also want to see what the entire staff looks like.

Todd4State
11-23-2023, 02:34 AM
One good thing about Lebby is we wouldn't necessarily need an OC or QB coach. We can use that money to overpay on an elite DC. I'm sure we'll hire someone to act as a liason for him but one thing I noticed looking at coaching staffs during this search is Georgia's ST guy isn't an on the field staff guy. Similar to Knox this year for us- he was essentially our RB coach so it allowed us to use Hughes as a recruiter.

It really makes you rethink staffing. Probably only a matter of time before someone like Alabama just hires coordinators to be off the field staff and just scheme and call plays and then use the other 10 assistant spots for recruiters. Especially since a lot of elite play callers seem to not be the best recruiters.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 06:14 AM
When would Missouri recruit higher than that ever?

Pinkel had multiple Top 20 classes and never dropped below 36th. Same for Drink. Lol. Might want to actually do research on Barry ?my alma mater didn?t want me anymore? Odom.

msugolf
11-23-2023, 06:53 AM
Facts I know:

Selmon and Lebby have talked multiple times.

Lebby was not in Norman today.

A plane just took off from OKC that's owned by Maroon Air, LLC

This would be the worst possible hire for us. He is on the verge of getting run out of Norman for his boneheaded play calls. Be ready to be incredibly frustrated with bubble screens on 3rd and inches and losing 8 yards. Not to mention have no idea if he even believes in playing defense.

Just a huge huge gamble. But hey, the fans that love tempo offense will be happy

MBDawg601
11-23-2023, 06:58 AM
If it is Lebby, we have missed badly.

We need a head coach, someone that has run a program before. Surely Selmon knows this?

msstate7
11-23-2023, 07:02 AM
Pinkel had multiple Top 20 classes and never dropped below 36th. Same for Drink. Lol. Might want to actually do research on Barry ?my alma mater didn?t want me anymore? Odom.

Probably at least worth noting that UNLV has their best class since 2002.

BuckyIsAB****
11-23-2023, 07:18 AM
Im out on Lebby

BuckyIsAB****
11-23-2023, 07:19 AM
Would seem like a pretty lazy hire just looking at it from the outside in

Cowbell
11-23-2023, 07:30 AM
Im out on Lebby

Same

It would be Selmon doing his OU buddy's a favor.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 07:33 AM
This would be the worst possible hire for us. He is on the verge of getting run out of Norman for his boneheaded play calls. Be ready to be incredibly frustrated with bubble screens on 3rd and inches and losing 8 yards. Not to mention have no idea if he even believes in playing defense.

Just a huge huge gamble. But hey, the fans that love tempo offense will be happy

He?s averaging 41 PPG good for 4th in the country. Lol

Have you even paid attention this year?

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 07:40 AM
Probably at least worth noting that UNLV has their best class since 2002.

I mean sure. He still has a track record that says that?s an outlier.

msugolf
11-23-2023, 07:42 AM
He?s averaging 41 PPG good for 4th in the country. Lol

Have you even paid attention this year?

Yep sure have. And it appears much moreso than you if all youre looking at is stats

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 07:44 AM
Yep sure have. And it appears much moreso than you if all youre looking at is stats

Lol. I?m trying hard to understand how scoring 41 PPG is bad. Talk about crazy stuff.

Leeshouldveflanked
11-23-2023, 07:48 AM
Selmon just tagged Beamer in his Twitter.
Beamerball? No thanks.

msugolf
11-23-2023, 07:53 AM
Lol. I?m trying hard to understand how scoring 41 PPG is bad. Talk about crazy stuff.

Do you even know anything about the offense or you just going to keep spouting off 41 ppg to everyone. Scoring a bunch of pts in a watered down defensive conference when you have a huge talent advantage has zero correlation on being able to run an SEC program

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 08:08 AM
Do you even know anything about the offense or you just going to keep spouting off 41 ppg to everyone. Scoring a bunch of pts in a watered down defensive conference when you have a huge talent advantage has zero correlation on being able to run an SEC program

Did you wake up today and think it was still the mid 2000s?

Texas #16 scoring defense - 34 points
SMU - #15 scoring defense - 28 points
Iowa St. - #33 scoring defense 50 points

37 PPG against Top 35 scoring defenses. Try again.

Pancho
11-23-2023, 08:14 AM
Elko is waiting on A&M and Mich state. I think it's Odom, Fritz, Sumrall or Lebby. had a face to face with fritz, maybe more than one, been chatting up Lebby alot. Odom is ready to move right now and Sumrall is still busy too, but this does not mean Selmon will have a noon Saturday presser.

DownwardDawg
11-23-2023, 08:39 AM
Elko is waiting on A&M and Mich state. I think it's Odom, Fritz, Sumrall or Lebby. had a face to face with fritz, maybe more than one, been chatting up Lebby alot. Odom is ready to move right now and Sumrall is still busy too, but this does not mean Selmon will have a noon Saturday presser.

If it's out of those I hope it's Sumrall with Odom next in line.

confucius say
11-23-2023, 08:43 AM
Same

It would be Selmon doing his OU buddy's a favor.

True or false, this will be a narrative because OK wants him gone.

Cooterpoot
11-23-2023, 08:52 AM
If it's out of those I hope it's Sumrall with Odom next in line.

I don't think it's Sumrall. I think there's an issue and we're foolish at best to pay a $5mm buyout for Odom. No SEC team would do that and it would show what fools we really are. I won't be surprised if there is another name that pops up either. If things start to take off fast, watch out.

Catfish
11-23-2023, 08:59 AM
I don't think it's Sumrall. I think there's an issue and we're foolish at best to pay a $5mm buyout for Odom. No SEC team would do that and it would show what fools we really are. I won't be surprised if there is another name that pops up either. If things start to take off fast, watch out.

Candle?

Msujd164
11-23-2023, 09:09 AM
Would Lebby really need to address his team? Was that not part of what was said?

Cooterpoot
11-23-2023, 09:11 AM
Candle?

I'd be lying if I said I knew. I do believe there are a couple interviews left unless we just take someone suddenly. No clue who one of those two is.

civildawg
11-23-2023, 09:11 AM
Candle is our only saving grace at this point. The names mentioned suck

Cooterpoot
11-23-2023, 09:38 AM
It's really hard to believe we can 17 up such an easy time to be handling a coach search, but we're trying hard. Been disappointing at best and we seem to have locked onto some booster guys. Our boosters suck by the way. They can 17 up a wet dream and do at every opportunity. Then you've got leadership that just doesn't prioritize winning in football. They've got the chance to make a good hire but it'll probably one of the guys we've heard already and none are impressive options or recharge a dead program.

Coursesuper
11-23-2023, 09:47 AM
It's really hard to believe we can 17 up such an easy time to be handling a coach search, but we're trying hard. Been disappointing at best and we seem to have locked onto some booster guys. Our boosters suck by the way. They can 17 up a wet dream and do at every opportunity. Then you've got leadership that just doesn't prioritize winning in football. They've got the chance to make a good hire but it'll probably one of the guys we've heard already and none are impressive options or recharge a dead program.

That our boosters could 17 up a wet dream is an understatement. We have been and always will be our own worst enemy. I do not know who this is going to be yet but I still hope we dont Mittippy Tate this up.

HoopsDawg
11-23-2023, 10:33 AM
It's really hard to believe we can 17 up such an easy time to be handling a coach search, but we're trying hard. Been disappointing at best and we seem to have locked onto some booster guys. Our boosters suck by the way. They can 17 up a wet dream and do at every opportunity. Then you've got leadership that just doesn't prioritize winning in football. They've got the chance to make a good hire but it'll probably one of the guys we've heard already and none are impressive options or recharge a dead program.

Who is a good hire in your opinion. You are constantly critical and never offer suggestions.

DEDawg
11-23-2023, 10:46 AM
It's really hard to believe we can 17 up such an easy time to be handling a coach search, but we're trying hard. Been disappointing at best and we seem to have locked onto some booster guys. Our boosters suck by the way. They can 17 up a wet dream and do at every opportunity. Then you've got leadership that just doesn't prioritize winning in football. They've got the chance to make a good hire but it'll probably one of the guys we've heard already and none are impressive options or recharge a dead program.

Who is a ?good hire? in your opinion

DEDawg
11-23-2023, 10:47 AM
Did you wake up today and think it was still the mid 2000s?

Texas #16 scoring defense - 34 points
SMU - #15 scoring defense - 28 points
Iowa St. - #33 scoring defense 50 points

37 PPG against Top 35 scoring defenses. Try again.

Thank you for posting this. I was about to go pull the stats then saw you already did. What a misinformed post, Lebby has that offense humming against good competition.

Really Clark?
11-23-2023, 11:25 AM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

basedog
11-23-2023, 11:26 AM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

Whew!

TrapGame
11-23-2023, 11:27 AM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

My spirits have been lifted.

HaggardDawg
11-23-2023, 11:29 AM
NFL front office guy told me Sumrall or Fritz would be his choices. Mature leaders. Not high on on any of the others.

DownwardDawg
11-23-2023, 11:30 AM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

I was saying this last night. It has a Greg Byrne vibe to it. Let's hope it doesn't turn out to be a templeton/Cohen situation.

msstate7
11-23-2023, 11:37 AM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

I've been a state fan long enough to know you bet heavy on our fall back options

BigDawg81
11-23-2023, 11:48 AM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.so, a coach hasn?t been hired?

Joebob
11-23-2023, 11:55 AM
The more I think about it, the more I like Sumrall. I just can't get excited about Lebby. His past definitely makes me uncomfortable.

Catfish
11-23-2023, 11:59 AM
I'm pulling for Jason Candle now.

DawgFromOxford
11-23-2023, 12:01 PM
NFL front office guy told me Sumrall or Fritz would be his choices. Mature leaders. Not high on on any of the others.

I just don?t get the love for Fritz other than he has years of HC experience. Most of his coaching record is meh

Somebody sell me on Fritz

Really Clark?
11-23-2023, 12:03 PM
so, a coach hasn?t been hired?

We have an agreement with someone at least in principle but it's a coaching search. You have to have fall back options to pivot quickly. Lebby had a face to face with us yesterday but that's the best information I have, he is a fall back option. If I end up being wrong, I will eat it. But that's what I'm told.

Cowbell
11-23-2023, 12:04 PM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

I'm hearing good things too. Selmon knows this hire will make or break his tenure here. He ain't stupid enough to settle

Schultzy
11-23-2023, 12:14 PM
It’s prob Odom who would’ve recruited better at Missouri if the president there hadn’t ostracized himself from every big donor the University ever had during that time.

confucius say
11-23-2023, 12:15 PM
We have an agreement with someone at least in principle but it's a coaching search. You have to have fall back options to pivot quickly. Lebby had a face to face with us yesterday but that's the best information I have, he is a fall back option. If I end up being wrong, I will eat it. But that's what I'm told.

You've been told by someone you trust we have an agreement with someone?

Todd4State
11-23-2023, 12:17 PM
It's really hard to believe we can 17 up such an easy time to be handling a coach search, but we're trying hard. Been disappointing at best and we seem to have locked onto some booster guys. Our boosters suck by the way. They can 17 up a wet dream and do at every opportunity. Then you've got leadership that just doesn't prioritize winning in football. They've got the chance to make a good hire but it'll probably one of the guys we've heard already and none are impressive options or recharge a dead program.

Obviously. Look at the current state of the team.

EdwardDrayton
11-23-2023, 12:18 PM
I've been a state fan long enough to know you bet heavy on our fall back options

Isn't that the truth.

mo7888
11-23-2023, 12:21 PM
If that someone isn't Odom, Fritz, or Sumrall I'm probably gonna very pleased or at least able to talk myself into it...

TrapGame
11-23-2023, 12:24 PM
If that someone isn't Odom, Fritz, or Sumrall I'm probably gonna very pleased or at least able to talk myself into it...

Lebby is better than three sitting head coaches?

C'mon man, put the pre-Thanksgiving meal cocktails down.

mo7888
11-23-2023, 12:30 PM
Lebby is better than three sitting head coaches?

C'mon man, put the pre-Thanksgiving meal cocktails down.

Better? That's hard to say... but the other guys are boring as hell and have 7 wins as a ceiling.... Lebby could be worse, but at least he's got the attitude and offense to generate excitement and a higher ceiling....

That said, he's not in my top 5 (at least), but we're debating the bottom of the barrel hires here...

TrapGame
11-23-2023, 12:37 PM
Better? That's hard to say... but the other guys are boring as hell and have 7 wins as a ceiling.... Lebby could be worse, but at least he's got the attitude and offense to generate excitement and a higher ceiling....

That said, he's not in my top 5 (at least), but we're debating the bottom of the barrel hires here...

Odom bringing his OC from UNLV is better than hiring Lebby as head coach. We need an experienced head coach. Lebby ain't it.

msugolf
11-23-2023, 12:39 PM
Better? That's hard to say... but the other guys are boring as hell and have 7 wins as a ceiling.... Lebby could be worse, but at least he's got the attitude and offense to generate excitement and a higher ceiling....

That said, he's not in my top 5 (at least), but we're debating the bottom of the barrel hires here...

I?ll just say this?the people I know, who have coached on SEC teams, say that Sumrall, Chadwell, Odom, Elko would be the best options going forward. Said Fritz would be if he were younger. Lebby would be a trainwreck with no idea of what he?s doing or what?s going on. But by all means go with a bump and giggle offense. Hope you like an offense that?s only bubble screens, direct snaps, jet sweeps over and over again.

mo7888
11-23-2023, 12:40 PM
Odom bringing his OC from UNLV is better than hiring Lebby as head coach. We need an experienced head coach. Lebby ain't it.

I'd agree on that about Odom if he we're bringing his OC, but everything I've heard is that he's not and that the OC will either be at Dan diego St or UNLV as HC.

Really Clark?
11-23-2023, 12:42 PM
You've been told by someone you trust we have an agreement with someone?

An agreement but not a LOU yet unless it was done late last night, as far as I know.

confucius say
11-23-2023, 12:46 PM
An agreement but not a LOU yet unless it was done late last night, as far as I know.

Interesting.

maroonmania
11-23-2023, 01:00 PM
Cue a Bert thread in 5....4....3.....

Yep, until Bert Stare confirms it I won't believe anything that's reported. ***

maroonmania
11-23-2023, 01:03 PM
That our boosters could 17 up a wet dream is an understatement. We have been and always will be our own worst enemy. I do not know who this is going to be yet but I still hope we dont Mittippy Tate this up.

Are these the same boosters that supposedly got the entire offensive staff hired before we even hired an OC? Not sure how anyone could put much blame on Barbay when he had zero say in his offensive assistant coaches.

DownwardDawg
11-23-2023, 01:17 PM
Yep, until Bert Stare confirms it I won't believe anything that's reported. ***

We need Bert to show up today and confirm that Lebby has been hired. Then we'll know we're safe!

BigDawg81
11-23-2023, 01:17 PM
I just heard a name but I do not know how accurate is this source. Hopefully, he is correct.

HoopsDawg
11-23-2023, 01:18 PM
I just heard a name but I?m not know how accurate is this source. However, he accurately said that State was hiring Leach. The name I heard is a name that has been discussed here plenty. The national media said he dropped his name from contention.

Chadwell

preachermatt83
11-23-2023, 01:36 PM
Lebby is a fall back option for someone else from the information I'm getting. Selmon may be ninja like.

Now we talkin!!!!

99jc
11-23-2023, 01:45 PM
I don't know who yet. I'm trying to find out but have 2 names I'm trying to confirm. I can confirm it is NOT Scott Frost!! That's for you Trap. Lol

If it's one I was told, most will be pretty happy.

if you really know just say cryptic crap sucks or is for those who really dont know just act like they do to feel important.

HoopsDawg
11-23-2023, 01:53 PM
if you really know just say cryptic crap sucks or is for those who really dont know just act like they do to feel important.

Here's what I know from a large booster. We did a face 2 face with Fritz and Elko. I think it's Elko but not 100% certain.

Really Clark?
11-23-2023, 02:04 PM
if you really know just say cryptic crap sucks or is for those who really dont know just act like they do to feel important.

I share what I know with the board, that's it. If I had a firm name last night I would have shared it. I don't hold back but that's also why I don't get immediate information from the ones intimately involved. Others can confirm with messages that I was told Fritz and Lebby earlier yesterday were our 2 but last night it was cluttered with several names, even from ones that told me Fritz and Lebby earlier. I honestly believe Selmon is smoke screening these names. I would love to just come out and say it's Elko. Candle name came out late last night, too. Like I said earlier if I'm wrong, I'll eat it. I have no problem saying I was wrong. Or I can just not share.

Really Clark?
11-23-2023, 02:06 PM
Here's what I know from a large booster. We did a face 2 face with Fritz and Elko. I think it's Elko but not 100% certain.

That's what I was told as well. Sumrall Sunday, supposedly Elko Monday, Fritz Tuesday and Lebby yesterday. Odom has had several calls but to my knowledge no face to face, could be wrong on that.

KB21
11-23-2023, 02:09 PM
I share what I know with the board, that's it. If I had a firm name last night I would have shared it. I don't hold back but that's also why I don't get immediate information from the ones intimately involved. Others can confirm with messages that I was told Fritz and Lebby earlier yesterday were our 2 but last night it was cluttered with several names, even from ones that told me Fritz and Lebby earlier. I honestly believe Selmon is smoke screening these names. I would love to just come out and say it's Elko. Candle name came out late last night, too. Like I said earlier if I'm wrong, I'll eat it. I have no problem saying I was wrong. Or I can just not share.

We’ve had issues, but I trust your word on this stuff more than the insiders who are currently having board wars.

Commercecomet24
11-23-2023, 02:13 PM
I share what I know with the board, that's it. If I had a firm name last night I would have shared it. I don't hold back but that's also why I don't get immediate information from the ones intimately involved. Others can confirm with messages that I was told Fritz and Lebby earlier yesterday were our 2 but last night it was cluttered with several names, even from ones that told me Fritz and Lebby earlier. I honestly believe Selmon is smoke screening these names. I would love to just come out and say it's Elko. Candle name came out late last night, too. Like I said earlier if I'm wrong, I'll eat it. I have no problem saying I was wrong. Or I can just not share.

This is accurate as can be.

Coursesuper
11-23-2023, 02:14 PM
I share what I know with the board, that's it. If I had a firm name last night I would have shared it. I don't hold back but that's also why I don't get immediate information from the ones intimately involved. Others can confirm with messages that I was told Fritz and Lebby earlier yesterday were our 2 but last night it was cluttered with several names, even from ones that told me Fritz and Lebby earlier. I honestly believe Selmon is smoke screening these names. I would love to just come out and say it's Elko. Candle name came out late last night, too. Like I said earlier if I'm wrong, I'll eat it. I have no problem saying I was wrong. Or I can just not share.

Truth here folks, well said.

msstate7
11-23-2023, 02:15 PM
Here's what I know from a large booster. We did a face 2 face with Fritz and Elko. I think it's Elko but not 100% certain.

Elko is my #1 of realistic guys.

DownwardDawg
11-23-2023, 02:17 PM
I share what I know with the board, that's it. If I had a firm name last night I would have shared it. I don't hold back but that's also why I don't get immediate information from the ones intimately involved. Others can confirm with messages that I was told Fritz and Lebby earlier yesterday were our 2 but last night it was cluttered with several names, even from ones that told me Fritz and Lebby earlier. I honestly believe Selmon is smoke screening these names. I would love to just come out and say it's Elko. Candle name came out late last night, too. Like I said earlier if I'm wrong, I'll eat it. I have no problem saying I was wrong. Or I can just not share.

If Lebby is in our top 2, we're screwed as a program.

Turfdawg67
11-23-2023, 02:19 PM
Lebbys name starting to become more prominent

Blah

confucius say
11-23-2023, 02:22 PM
If not Chadwell, I think it's elko, Fritz, or Sumrall. Then Odom. Sitting head coach.

The last sitting head coaches were leach and JWS. Both successes. 2 for 2.
Non head coaches have been Croom, mullen, Moorhead, and arnett. 1 out of 4 hit.

DEDawg
11-23-2023, 02:23 PM
I?ll just say this?the people I know, who have coached on SEC teams, say that Sumrall, Chadwell, Odom, Elko would be the best options going forward. Said Fritz would be if he were younger. Lebby would be a trainwreck with no idea of what he?s doing or what?s going on. But by all means go with a bump and giggle offense. Hope you like an offense that?s only bubble screens, direct snaps, jet sweeps over and over again.

I find it hard to believe you know multiple current or former SEC coaches and they all just happen to have the exact same conclusion across 6 guys. Come on dude

Turfdawg67
11-23-2023, 02:31 PM
I don't think it's Sumrall. I think there's an issue and we're foolish at best to pay a $5mm buyout for Odom. No SEC team would do that and it would show what fools we really are. I won't be surprised if there is another name that pops up either. If things start to take off fast, watch out.

TAM just paid $76M for a guy NOT to coach. No one will notice if we pay $5M, geez.

Goldendawg
11-23-2023, 02:55 PM
If Lebby is in our top 2, we're screwed as a program.

I have no connections, but if our "On the Job Training AD" hires another "On the Job Training HC" (with his baggage) we are in deep trouble. Don't want a hire like this just because of the OK connections, lazy and very disappointing. We need a HC that can follow the other name SEC West HC's into the recruits homes and they at least know who he is! Get It Done, A$AP! Hail State! JMO.

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CoachT14
11-23-2023, 03:06 PM
NFL front office guy told me Sumrall or Fritz would be his choices. Mature leaders. Not high on on any of the others.

Cause the NFL front offices have a great track record of hiring coaches. They love their retreads and loser coaches.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 03:08 PM
Odom bringing his OC from UNLV is better than hiring Lebby as head coach. We need an experienced head coach. Lebby ain't it.

Odom sucks as a HC. Who cares that he has experience? He ain?t bringing Marion. Marion is going to be a HC this year.

DEDawg
11-23-2023, 03:22 PM
Odom sucks as a HC. Who cares that he has experience? He ain?t bringing Marion. Marion is going to be a HC this year.

This is what I dont understand either. Odom got his shot in the SEC and sucked

KB21
11-23-2023, 03:30 PM
FWIW, Dave Bartoo was apparently talking about Elko on ESPN radio. Said Michigan State wasn’t hiring but another school was. Said that school wasn’t Texas A&M.

msstate7
11-23-2023, 03:31 PM
FWIW, Dave Bartoo was apparently talking about Elko on ESPN radio. Said Michigan State wasn’t hiring but another school was. Said that school wasn’t Texas A&M.

Fingers crossed

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 03:35 PM
This is what I dont understand either. Odom got his shot in the SEC and sucked

That was at Missouri 2 years removed from back to back SEC Championship appearances and he goes 25-25. And UGA, Tennessee and Florida were in the doldrums and struggling and goes .500 with a NFL QB.

Let me add he also lowered their recruiting from mid 20s to the mid 50s nationally.

Y?all in here clamoring for a guy who couldn?t get it done in the SEC East when the SEC East still sucked and had a NFL QB. Lol.

mo7888
11-23-2023, 03:38 PM
FWIW, Dave Bartoo was apparently talking about Elko on ESPN radio. Said Michigan State wasn’t hiring but another school was. Said that school wasn’t Texas A&M.

How do you feel about Elko? What type of OC do you think he'd bring..

EdwardDrayton
11-23-2023, 03:42 PM
I guess New Coach Getting Close is a different definition than mine here some eighteen hours later.

KB21
11-23-2023, 03:45 PM
How do you feel about Elko? What type of OC do you think he'd bring..

I think he would be a good hire. Don’t know about who he could get as OC.

msstate7
11-23-2023, 03:46 PM
That was at Missouri 2 years removed from back to back SEC Championship appearances and he goes 25-25. And UGA, Tennessee and Florida were in the doldrums and struggling and goes .500 with a NFL QB.

Let me add he also lowered their recruiting from mid 20s to the mid 50s nationally.

Y?all in here clamoring for a guy who couldn?t get it done in the SEC East when the SEC East still sucked and had a NFL QB. Lol.
Missouri recruiting rankings avg...
2012-2015: 35.5
2016-2019: 40.5
2020-2023: 31.5

Not as dramatic as you make it

ETA... pretty sure it was Odom that had to deal with the "safe spaces" deal on their campus. Recruiting to that school couldn't have been easy then

Homedawg
11-23-2023, 03:50 PM
Missouri recruiting rankings avg...
2012-2015: 35.5
2016-2019: 40.5
2020-2023: 31.5

Not as dramatic as you make it

You mean they weren't in the 20's and didn't fall into the 50's??? Why people just make crap up when it can be fact checked is amazing to me.

Commercecomet24
11-23-2023, 03:56 PM
You mean they weren't in the 20's and didn't fall into the 50's??? Why people just make crap up when it can be fact checked is amazing to me.

Man no one on here ever exaggerates lol!

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 04:01 PM
Missouri recruiting rankings avg...
2012-2015: 35.5
2016-2019: 40.5
2020-2023: 31.5

Not as dramatic as you make it

ETA... pretty sure it was Odom that had to deal with the "safe spaces" deal on their campus. Recruiting to that school couldn't have been easy then

That difference matters. Still doesn?t negate the fact that he was worse than his successor and predecessor at HC there.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 04:02 PM
You mean they weren't in the 20's and didn't fall into the 50's??? Why people just make crap up when it can be fact checked is amazing to me.

He literally had the 55th overall recruiting class in 2016.

KB21
11-23-2023, 04:02 PM
With all the social unrest and protests, Missouri was a dumpster fire when he took over.

Homedawg
11-23-2023, 04:10 PM
He literally had the 55th overall recruiting class in 2016.

One year?? His first?? Just stop making crap up. Don't defend it. You made up total bs. Man provide you w his avg. ....

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 04:15 PM
One year?? His first?? Just stop making crap up. Don't defend it. You made up total bs. Man provide you w his avg. ....

He recruited worse than Pinkel and Drink. That?s not debatable.

He went 19-19 and 10-14 in the SEC with an NFL QB in a terrible SEC East. What do you think he?s going to do without an NFL QB in the new SEC? Be better than .500? Y?all are insane to think he will be successful here. This board has gone off the deep end the past year. Y?all are turning into Jeans Page 2.0.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 04:17 PM
One year?? His first?? Just stop making crap up. Don't defend it. You made up total bs. Man provide you w his avg. ....

I didn?t make crap up either. The only folks making things up are the mouth breathers like yourself trying to gaslight people into thinking Barry Odom is a good coach. He?s not. He?s already had his shot in the SEC and sucked.

Pancho
11-23-2023, 04:30 PM
I didn?t make crap up either. The only folks making things up are the mouth breathers like yourself trying to gaslight people into thinking Barry Odom is a good coach. He?s not. He?s already had his shot in the SEC and sucked.

well, he's 1 of the 3 left so i guess you won't be happy since you don't like lebby or fritz either

BigDawg81
11-23-2023, 04:33 PM
I got people on my left telling me it?s Chadwell and I got people on my right telling me it?s Elko.

Pancho
11-23-2023, 04:34 PM
chadwell ain't coming rn. Elko may be wanting back in if A&M has told him nay

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 04:34 PM
well, he's 1 of the 3 left so i guess you won't be happy since you don't like lebby or fritz either

I love Lebby. Especially compared to the John Cohen hires of the month.

EdwardDrayton
11-23-2023, 04:35 PM
We are always going to have fans that paint lipstick on a pig.

Commercecomet24
11-23-2023, 04:39 PM
With all the social unrest and protests, Missouri was a dumpster fire when he took over.

Yeah they had big issues, I believe Pinkel saw the writing on the wall and with his health issues was tired of dealing with it. Odom wouldn't be my choice but he did an ok job at Missouri with what he inherited.

DownwardDawg
11-23-2023, 04:49 PM
Yeah they had big issues, I believe Pinkel saw the writing on the wall and with his health issues was tired of dealing with it. Odom wouldn't be my choice but he did an ok job at Missouri with what he inherited.

This 100%. People don't want to try and look at the whole picture.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 04:50 PM
Yeah they had big issues, I believe Pinkel saw the writing on the wall and with his health issues was tired of dealing with it. Odom wouldn't be my choice but he did an ok job at Missouri with what he inherited.

He inherited a team 1 year removed from back to back SEC Championship appearances. And immediately went 4-8 with an NFL QB.

SteelCurtain74
11-23-2023, 04:51 PM
I got people on my left telling me it?s Chadwell and I got people on my right telling me it?s Elko.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers on the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

Commercecomet24
11-23-2023, 04:57 PM
This 100%. People don't want to try and look at the whole picture.

Every single time.

Commercecomet24
11-23-2023, 04:57 PM
Clowns to the left of me, jokers on the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

Lol have some rep!

msstate7
11-23-2023, 05:02 PM
He inherited a team 1 year removed from back to back SEC Championship appearances. And immediately went 4-8 with an NFL QB.

They were 5-7 the year before he took over, and that team lost 6 of their last 7.

CoachT14
11-23-2023, 05:12 PM
They were 5-7 the year before he took over, and that team lost 6 of their last 7.

Hence 1 year removed.

Coursesuper
11-23-2023, 05:15 PM
Hey, I don’t know much, but unless things go to complete Shat, Odom ain’t it. Carry on.

DownwardDawg
11-23-2023, 05:17 PM
Hey, I don’t know much, but unless things go to complete Shat, Odom ain’t it. Carry on.

I agree. Fallback plan, but way ahead of Lebby.

msstate7
11-23-2023, 05:20 PM
Hence 1 year removed.

Ok, but they were bad the year before, so 2 years before seems moot.

TrapGame
11-23-2023, 05:24 PM
Odom sucks as a HC. Who cares that he has experience? He ain?t bringing Marion. Marion is going to be a HC this year.


This is what I dont understand either. Odom got his shot in the SEC and sucked

Odom is better than Lebby. If we settle for Lebby over a guy who has been a head coach twice plus an asst. head coach at Arkansas, where Pittman called him invaluable, then we totally, royally shit the bed. Odom is nowhere near my top choice but I don't consider Lebby. There is nothing on his resume that says he can be a successful head coach. Odom gets a Mulligan for part of his Missouri stint b/c they went full retard. He got UNLV turned around QUICK. He's also a DC that has an eye for up tempo, innovative offenses. His OCs have done well. And I can't believe I'm defending Odom but he is clearly a better candidate than Jeff Lebby.

PMDawg
11-23-2023, 06:19 PM
I got people on my left telling me it?s Chadwell and I got people on my right telling me it?s Elko.

Heck yeah! That's a no lose situation right there.

msstate7
11-23-2023, 06:27 PM
Heck yeah! That's a no lose situation right there.

Yeah, if that's real, I don't even care which way we go

BigDawg81
11-24-2023, 10:51 AM
Lets hire a Coach and get to work