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Maverick91
10-31-2023, 11:00 AM
This could argue Helton was/is a better coach than Riley.

First 22 games:

Both went 17-5
Both zero pac12 championships
Helton has a bowl win Riley doesn?t
Helton had a 4-5 record verse ranked team Riley is 2-5
Helton went 1-1 verse Utah Riley is 0-3
Both 1-1 verse Notre Dame

When Riley left I knew he did it to have a much easier path to the playoff than at Oklahoma. But dang i didn?t know it was this subpar, especially when you add in a Heisman winning QB.

That Air Raid with elite players not working out to well.

IngomarDawg
10-31-2023, 11:03 AM
they were a competent (not even good) defense away from a real shot at a national championship last year. the moment riley fires alex grinch that team becomes scary fast.

gtowndawg
10-31-2023, 11:07 AM
I'm honestly not sure is this post meant to bash the AR (which I don't care) or is its purpose to show we need Clay Helton immediately? Because I'm extremely interested in Clay Helton and Tom Herman both.

preachermatt83
10-31-2023, 11:14 AM
Clay Helton is a very good coach

KB21
10-31-2023, 11:22 AM
This could argue Helton was/is a better coach than Riley.

First 22 games:

Both went 17-5
Both zero pac12 championships
Helton has a bowl win Riley doesn?t
Helton had a 4-5 record verse ranked team Riley is 2-5
Helton went 1-1 verse Utah Riley is 0-3
Both 1-1 verse Notre Dame

When Riley left I knew he did it to have a much easier path to the playoff than at Oklahoma. But dang i didn?t know it was this subpar, especially when you add in a Heisman winning QB.

That Air Raid with elite players not working out to well.

They have the #2 scoring offense in the country. The Air Raid is working just fine.

KB21
10-31-2023, 11:23 AM
I'm honestly not sure is this post meant to bash the AR (which I don't care) or is its purpose to show we need Clay Helton immediately? Because I'm extremely interested in Clay Helton and Tom Herman both.

Clay Helton should absolutely be one of the top names on our list.

viverlibre
10-31-2023, 11:44 AM
I'm extremely interested in Clay Helton and Tom Herman both.

#metoo. Probably my top two candidates. I doubt either has much of a buyout and neither would be demand $6mil+. Plus but both have had success at the highest level. I'd go for the one who is the best recruiter.

KB21
10-31-2023, 11:44 AM
Not to mention that Clay Helton and Chris Lemonis look like long lost brothers:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/02/06/de0ea849-9f6e-45cf-84c6-5f04c0891c26/thumbnail/1200x675/30adfb2c642abfa4701db7c56b173ff6/usatsi-10404648-220956-lowres.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTk2MzQ3MjY4MzczMTYxNzQ2/usatsi_12673474.jpg

Maverick91
10-31-2023, 11:51 AM
Not to mention that Clay Helton and Chris Lemonis look like long lost brothers:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/02/06/de0ea849-9f6e-45cf-84c6-5f04c0891c26/thumbnail/1200x675/30adfb2c642abfa4701db7c56b173ff6/usatsi-10404648-220956-lowres.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTk2MzQ3MjY4MzczMTYxNzQ2/usatsi_12673474.jpg


Lol rep

Yeah I’d be happy to throw whatever they want at either of them.

Commercecomet24
10-31-2023, 11:54 AM
Not to mention that Clay Helton and Chris Lemonis look like long lost brothers:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/02/06/de0ea849-9f6e-45cf-84c6-5f04c0891c26/thumbnail/1200x675/30adfb2c642abfa4701db7c56b173ff6/usatsi-10404648-220956-lowres.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTk2MzQ3MjY4MzczMTYxNzQ2/usatsi_12673474.jpg

Geez, they look an awful lot alike. That's uncanny.

Cooterpoot
10-31-2023, 12:32 PM
Clay Helton should absolutely be one of the top names on our list.

Hell naw

KB21
10-31-2023, 12:34 PM
https://theathletic.com/3234963/2022/09/10/clay-helton-georgia-southern-football-usc-football/

Good article on Clay Helton from The Athletic.


“If I could find someone with head coaching experience who had won at a high level, that was really important to me,” Benko said. “I wanted someone offensively that could really field explosive offenses. I wanted someone who could recruit at a really high level.

“Clay had the application piece. Like, he’s not guessing. … He said, ‘This is how we’re going to do it, this is what I’ve learned from my time at USC, this is how we’re gonna get better.’”

So what did Helton learn during his time at USC?

“You work so hard in the early years of setting your culture,” he said. “And if you don’t start the messaging all over again like it’s Day 1 with the same energy, the same focus, and (you) just assume everybody knows it, then you can lose a culture in a hurry, too.”

gtowndawg
10-31-2023, 01:18 PM
Hell naw

Why not? I'm honetly trying to learn the pros and cons of the potential candiates.

viverlibre
10-31-2023, 02:14 PM
Geez, they look an awful lot alike. That's uncanny.

I recently heard a national commentator say that one reason Helton didn't make it at USC was that he didn't have a "Hollywood Look." I see what he meant now.

Between him, Lemonjuice and Cheese, not buffet in Starkvegas would be safe.

PGHBulldogBG
10-31-2023, 02:35 PM
Please no Clay Helton, Tom Herman or Gus Malzahn at State. Give me Mullen before any of those 3. We do not need retreads or coaches learning on the job. We need Chadwell, Clawson or Fields. I want a coach that has proven at multiple schools they do more with less and continue to win at smaller programs. It?s the only way we can compete at all in this new landscape with portal, NIL etc

Commercecomet24
10-31-2023, 02:39 PM
I recently heard a national commentator say that one reason Helton didn't make it at USC was that he didn't have a "Hollywood Look." I see what he meant now.

Between him, Lemonjuice and Cheese, not buffet in Starkvegas would be safe.

That's hilarious! Have some rep! This video is the picture i get in my mind when you said that! John Pinette was a funny, funny man who passed way to young!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO9x0dwT_4

CaptainObvious
10-31-2023, 02:48 PM
Please no Clay Helton, Tom Herman or Gus Malzahn at State. Give me Mullen before any of those 3. We do not need retreads or coaches learning on the job. We need Chadwell, Clawson or Fields. I want a coach that has proven at multiple schools they do more with less and continue to win at smaller programs. It?s the only way we can compete at all in this new landscape with portal, NIL etc

The old more with less mantra again.

Is Jeff Bower available? Nobody in America die more with less!

preachermatt83
10-31-2023, 03:35 PM
I have no idea why ANYBODY at State wouldn’t want Helton. It makes no sense not too.

DownwardDawg
10-31-2023, 03:40 PM
Not to mention that Clay Helton and Chris Lemonis look like long lost brothers:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/02/06/de0ea849-9f6e-45cf-84c6-5f04c0891c26/thumbnail/1200x675/30adfb2c642abfa4701db7c56b173ff6/usatsi-10404648-220956-lowres.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTk2MzQ3MjY4MzczMTYxNzQ2/usatsi_12673474.jpg

Well, then I'm out. Tom Herman it is!!

Commercecomet24
10-31-2023, 03:41 PM
Has anyone ever seen Lemonis and Helton in the same room together? Are we sure they're not one and the same, lol!

DawgFromOxford
10-31-2023, 03:42 PM
Not to mention that Clay Helton and Chris Lemonis look like long lost brothers:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/02/06/de0ea849-9f6e-45cf-84c6-5f04c0891c26/thumbnail/1200x675/30adfb2c642abfa4701db7c56b173ff6/usatsi-10404648-220956-lowres.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTk2MzQ3MjY4MzczMTYxNzQ2/usatsi_12673474.jpg

Not exactly helping your case here lol

Really Clark?
10-31-2023, 03:49 PM
That's hilarious! Have some rep! This video is the picture i get in my mind when you said that! John Pinette was a funny, funny man who passed way to young!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO9x0dwT_4

That's one of the funniest bits!! Loved him

Commercecomet24
10-31-2023, 03:54 PM
That's one of the funniest bits!! Loved him

Yeah I've listened to so many of his standups. The guy was hilarious!

Really Clark?
10-31-2023, 04:02 PM
Yeah I've listened to so many of his standups. The guy was hilarious!

I say nay nay!! I don't do ups...sit ups, push ups, pull ups. I do downs, sit down, lay down, wolf down a cheeseburger.

Hahahaha

Maverick91
10-31-2023, 04:29 PM
Has anyone ever seen Lemonis and Helton in the same room together? Are we sure they're not one and the same, lol!

I?d give you rep if I could! I think he would be great here. He has coached in the southeast most of his career, born in Florida. As stated already looks like a Mississippi boy. Bring him home.

Commercecomet24
10-31-2023, 04:56 PM
I say nay nay!! I don't do ups...sit ups, push ups, pull ups. I do downs, sit down, lay down, wolf down a cheeseburger.

Hahahaha

I?m reaching that point myself!

Really Clark?
10-31-2023, 05:00 PM
I?m reaching that point myself!

Me too!