Hearing we are putting out feelers

[Turfdawg67]

We don't have a Target!! We can't any of them!!***

Did you leave out a word or two... not comprehending.

[Really Clark?]

Did you leave out a word or two... not comprehending.

Yeah I guess I did. We can't GET any of them! Lol. My bad

[Activated Alpha]

mehhhhh- we make a move and I'll be good with it as long as its not someone that runs a 7 on 7 offense

Hey that?s actually what I wanted to hear. Just got a little annoying on the impartialness regarding why a lot of us want CZA to be a HC somewhere else. Not as annoying as KB and blacksails are with the AR, but it is like trying to pull a damn ostrich?s head out of the sand. I don?t care what offense we run as long as we are competent and successful.

[DownwardDawg]

I dont want an offense that throws it 50 times

I want a Spread offense

Yeah this. I want a spread offense. That looks like it's coached by a competent coach.

[KOdawg1]

This was a painful thread to read

[Turfdawg67]

No it's not the whole staff. That's directly from players.


I'm coming straight from players and parents. It's the Whole staff. And yes, we do have feelers out!

Lol! He said, she said. I'll side more with Clark and CC24...

[Turfdawg67]

mehhhhh- we make a move and I'll be good with it as long as its not someone that runs a 7 on 7 offense

What stage of grief is this? We've seen denial and some anger... acceptance? ***

[SilentSteel16]

CZA is out of his element as a HC, he may yet turn into one down the road but not ready for it at the moment... Barbay i dont think has accounted for SEC defenses...Our DC needs to step back and maybe we can convince CZA to go back to DC or tell him thanks for stepping up and giving it a go...Wright is clearly not the answer at QB and i believe everyone can now agree Rogers is the best option, you dont destroy Parson on a throw away season... get him his 4 games and call it a redshirt...... start over with your scheme and make your hire early... losing a ton of people to eligibility and transfer portal... start your rebuild and go from there....BSD is just throwing fuel on an open fire and laughing at the uproar.....

[Really Clark?]

Lol! He said, she said. I'll side more with Clark and CC24...

Lol. I appreciate the vote of confidence!!

He hasn't been back on here for a while this afternoon. He must be waiting on an update from a pay site to come and break news of what he's "hearing". If he's reading, we still haven't sent out feelers to agents.

[Tater]

Lol. I appreciate the vote of confidence!!

He hasn't been back on here for a while this afternoon. He must be waiting on an update from a pay site to come and break news of what he's "hearing". If he's reading, we still haven't sent out feelers to agents.

It's past bedtime and Daddy unplugged the wifi.

[Really Clark?]

It's past bedtime and Daddy unplugged the wifi.

Lol. Have some Rep!!

[Turfdawg67]

You just said it man:

"It is the whole staff, and I have been telling you it is. Now things are becoming public."

"It's the whole staff. We got players getting penalized for executing what they are taught. This staff is done."

"I'm coming straight from players and parents. It's the Whole staff. And yes, we do have feelers out!"

What the actual hell? This is just the last few pages on this post. You most definitely said it was the whole staff multiple time. Come on now.


You absolutely said the "whole staff". Why deny what you just said? smh

Holy hell... he states something 3-4 times and then denies it! ... in the same 17'n thread! Gold, Jerry... gold!

[RezDog7]

You are arguing with a woman- you know that right? BS is that Chrissy Fraud beat writer person that got fired and moved somewhere. Was comparing State to Vandy on twitter and got roasted over the weekend.

Damn, I thought BS was that Hunter kid that fakes being an msu fan. Both girls so it makes sense.

[Really Clark?]

Holy hell... he states something 3-4 times and then denies it! ... in the same 17'n thread! Gold, Jerry... gold!

I mean, we've been on this site a long time and I've made my share of bad / incorrect posts, but I can't ever remember someone so blatantly try to deny posting something he had just posted that many times. That's a special kind of narcissism.

[Homedawg]

Lol, thanks guys! I try to keep myself under control and not let others dictate my mood. I like to keep my composure and poise. However bsd has only stirred the pot told half truths and mis-represented a lot without bringing anything positive to the board. It gets old. The horse is dead and has been beat to death over and over and over. We all see where the season is headed barring a miracle on the scale of the Red Sea! There?s a lot of great people on here with tons of knowledge and lots to add and discuss even if you don?t agree, a few on here not so much lol!

Most level headed poster there is. You don't let emotions get in the way.

[Homedawg]

Here is a good rule of thumb, if CC24 is calling you out and getting fired up on your butt, you are in the wrong and over the line. Without question.

Amen

[Cooterpoot]

I suspect it's the same person as Ibdancin on 6 pack. But hey, let them enjoy it. I don't care because not many people bother me anymore. Thought it was Thomas from years gone by.

[Mjoelner34]

I suspect it's the same person as Indancin on 6 pack. But hey, let them enjoy it. I don't care because not many people bother me anymore.

I've noticed that similarity too.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I dont want an offense that throws it 50 times

I want a Spread offense

Those early 2000's Rich Rod WV offenses, the Pat White, Steve Slayton, Noel Devine years, were what CFB offense should look like.

[dawgday166]

Rosie say ain't nuthin happening yet. But then .. I don't trust Rosie he's wrong as much or more than he's right.

But then ... I don't trust anyone on here either. Except Bert Stare of course. He's always spot on.

[TrapGame]

Rosie say ain't nuthin happening yet. But then .. I don't trust Rosie he's wrong as much or more than he's right.

But then ... I don't trust anyone on here either. Except Bert Stare of course. He's always spot on.

Sounds like the outcome of the game Saturday night is going to dictate what happens next.

[dawgday166]

Sounds like the outcome of the game Saturday night is going to dictate what happens next.

I kinda lean towards having to lose the rest (minus USM) and good beat down by OM. Unless KY really smokes us at home. That would probably get the needle moving.

I don't really get too caught up in "behind the scenes" stuff since all kinds of folks think they have inside info. Most all of it is wrong. Except Bert ... he da man. When he speaks, I perk up ***

ETA: Now if this turns around that would be great but I don't really see that happening. We'll see.

[Commercecomet24]

Holy hell... he states something 3-4 times and then denies it! ... in the same 17'n thread! Gold, Jerry... gold!

Lol old Jedi mind trick!

[Quaoarsking]

Those early 2000's Rich Rod WV offenses, the Pat White, Steve Slayton, Noel Devine years, were what CFB offense should look like.

He's available if we want to do that. He's currently 16-4 since taking the job at Jacksonville State last year.

[Todd4State]

Sounds like the outcome of the game Saturday night is going to dictate what happens next.

We're going to wait until the season is completed and then assess from there. As we should.

But I think we all see where this is going.

[Todd4State]

He's available if we want to do that. He's currently 16-4 since taking the job at Jacksonville State last year.

We should look more at their DC. They're averaging 28.6 PPG and they are 6th in their conference in total offense.

For reference we're at 26 PPG on the season and we're at 31 PPG last year.

[parabrave]

Dabo might be on the Market after his press conference today.

[Leroy Jenkins]

He's available if we want to do that. He's currently 16-4 since taking the job at Jacksonville State last year.

I don't want him, just that playbook/personnel. Lol

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Steve mentioned other openings expected in ?major sports?? Baseball? Basketball?

[Coursesuper]

Lol old Jedi mind trick!

Touche'

[Coursesuper]

I repeat, put zero stock in anything Rosebowl puts into the media. The guys and all around him are a total propaganda machine. They are counting on you thinking with your heart and not your head. The guys job is to sell subscriptions and get clicks so take that in to account whenever you jump off in swan lake.

[Really Clark?]

Lol old Jedi mind trick!

Lol...that is not the post you are looking for

https://giphy.com/gifs/hyperrpg-kidsonbikes-kobrpg-kids-on-bikes-fdUIa3WZAdIsLKCjDB

[Homedawg]

Dabo might be on the Market after his press conference today.

You referring to the 5 min tirade he went on?? I thought he was pretty spot on. He's earned that right

[StarkVegasSteve]

You referring to the 5 min tirade he went on?? I thought he was pretty spot on. He's earned that right

Well he has been on top for so long. I mean they had an 8-10 year run where they were one of the top 10 programs and 4-6 year run where they were one of the top 4. You can see the frustration he has in knowing it is slipping away. He knows he now has to embrace the portal, something he has been vehemently against since its inception, or his program will go back to being a 7-9 win team year in and year out.

[basedog]

Well he has been on top for so long. I mean they had an 8-10 year run where they were one of the top 10 programs and 4-6 year run where they were one of the top 4. You can see the frustration he has in knowing it is slipping away. He knows he now has to embrace the portal, something he has been vehemently against since its inception, or his program will go back to being a 7-9 win team year in and year out.

I'd hire him, all Coaches expect Saban burn out now days. He needs a reboot.

[Really Clark?]

You referring to the 5 min tirade he went on?? I thought he was pretty spot on. He's earned that right

A lot of expectations with no appreciation. Thought that was on point. I agree, with 2 rings, he's earned it.

[Todd4State]

I'd hire him, all Coaches expect Saban burn out now days. He needs a reboot.
I would hire Dabo but he has to embrace the portal and use it and be all in on NIL.

We can't afford not to.

[parabrave]

You referring to the 5 min tirade he went on?? I thought he was pretty spot on. He's earned that right

Well he went more than full JOMO pound Sand. I wonder who Tyler is? Yep Dabo went full retard Remember Never go full retard'

https://youtu.be/1Y3FzVQi-R8

And speaking of great uniforms. 107s were!

[Really Clark?]

Well he went more than full JOMO pound Sand. I wonder who Tyler is?

KB's alter ego at Clemson.***

[Thick]

I was told yesterday that ZA is gone for sure barring some miracle turnaround. The list for replacements is being put together now. Petrino, Lebby, and Leopold were mentioned but no particular order. Those 3 are just apart of the list. Before you ask, it?s a former JWS player that shared the info. He was very, very confident regarding the subject.

[basedog]

I would hire Dabo but he has to embrace the portal and use it and be all in on NIL.

We can't afford not to.

I think he would and like I said, I would hire him. I doubt he would come to Msu thou.

[basedog]

I was told yesterday that ZA is gone for sure barring some miracle turnaround. The list for replacements is being put together now. Petrino, Lebby, and Leopold were mentioned but no particular order. Those 3 are just apart of the list. Before you ask, it?s a former JWS player that shared the info. He was very, very confident regarding the subject.

I was told we have plans just in case........Coach speak is one thing but so is "interest in the University and fans", upper management has to play the game with fans.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I was told we have plans just in case........Coach speak is one thing but so is "interest in the University and fans", upper management has to play the game with fans.

We have plans and there is a list. Every AD has 8-10 names in his back pocket at all times. You are either hiring a coach, firing a coach, or trying to keep your coach at all times.

I also think that there has probably been some cursory contact made with agents, nothing is going to be on the record this early in the game anyways.

[RezDog7]

I was told yesterday that ZA is gone for sure barring some miracle turnaround. The list for replacements is being put together now. Petrino, Lebby, and Leopold were mentioned but no particular order. Those 3 are just apart of the list. Before you ask, it?s a former JWS player that shared the info. He was very, very confident regarding the subject.

If Petrino is hired, I'll burn all my msu shit. What a joke.

[Homedawg]

Well he went more than full JOMO pound Sand. I wonder who Tyler is? Yep Dabo went full retard Remember Never go full retard'

https://youtu.be/1Y3FzVQi-R8

And speaking of great uniforms. 107s were!

It was on the call in show. Not pc

[Cooterpoot]

I think he would and like I said, I would hire him. I doubt he would come to Msu thou.

Dabo is bad shit crazy and refuses to use the portal. He'd be an epic failure here.

[BigDawg81]

I was told we have plans just in case........Coach speak is one thing but so is "interest in the University and fans", upper management has to play the game with fans. Heard last night that there feelers for Lebby to see if he is interested.

[gtowndawg]

If Petrino is hired, I'll burn all my msu shit. What a joke.

I think we have FAR better options than Petrino but I'm with you. I'm a hard no on Petrino. I mean the man got fired from his last two head coaching jobs.

edited: I've always been a Chadwell fan but Tom Herman has really piqued my interest. I think he would do very well here.

[civildawg]

Heard last night that there feelers for Lebby to see if he is interested.

If it is Lebby, I really hope he brings Art with him for help. Also, after reading dellengers latest coaching search article, we need to make the move this year. We will be one of very few schools in a coaching search

[KB21]

I dont want an offense that throws it 50 times

I want a Spread offense

You just proved my point.

[KB21]

I was told yesterday that ZA is gone for sure barring some miracle turnaround. The list for replacements is being put together now. Petrino, Lebby, and Leopold were mentioned but no particular order. Those 3 are just apart of the list. Before you ask, it?s a former JWS player that shared the info. He was very, very confident regarding the subject.

Petrino would be a trash hire. Leipold isn't going to come here. He'd be a home run hire if he would come here though. If anything happens with Harbaugh at Michigan, Leipold will be their top choice. Lebby, I can definitely get behind. He runs the type of wide open offense we need to see at Mississippi State. He can lean on his father-in-law while he's learning to be a head coach. He can also use those connections to build a staff.

[Quaoarsking]

What does everyone think about this?

Role during 2015 Baylor football scandal
While coaching at Baylor University, Lebby was named by Baylor student Dolores Lozano as one of the coaches that took no action against running back Devin Chafin after she reported being physically assaulted three times by him. After Art Briles was terminated by Baylor, Lebby defended Briles, who is also Lebby's father-in-law, and sold shirts with #CAB (Coach Art Briles) in a show of continued support.

[Cooterpoot]

What does everyone think about this?

Role during 2015 Baylor football scandal
While coaching at Baylor University, Lebby was named by Baylor student Dolores Lozano as one of the coaches that took no action against running back Devin Chafin after she reported being physically assaulted three times by him. After Art Briles was terminated by Baylor, Lebby defended Briles, who is also Lebby's father-in-law, and sold shirts with #CAB (Coach Art Briles) in a show of continued support.

He was cleared. Briles basically was too a couple weeks ago.

[Quaoarsking]

He was cleared. Briles basically was too a couple weeks ago.

The one from a couple weeks ago was just 1 particular accuser out of dozens, right?

[Cooterpoot]

The one from a couple weeks ago was just 1 particular accuser out of dozens, right?

It cleared him from the title 9 suit. Judge ruled nothing was proven against him. Technically, Briles could coach again.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I like that Lebby has expert in the SEC

[DownwardDawg]

I like Lebby

[Prediction? Pain.]

What does everyone think about this?

Role during 2015 Baylor football scandal
While coaching at Baylor University, Lebby was named by Baylor student Dolores Lozano as one of the coaches that took no action against running back Devin Chafin after she reported being physically assaulted three times by him. After Art Briles was terminated by Baylor, Lebby defended Briles, who is also Lebby's father-in-law, and sold shirts with #CAB (Coach Art Briles) in a show of continued support.


He was cleared. Briles basically was too a couple weeks ago.


It cleared him from the title 9 suit. Judge ruled nothing was proven against him. Technically, Briles could coach again.

Lozano, a Baylor student who claims she was assaulted multiple times by a football player, sued Baylor for Title IX violations and negligence, and in the same suit she sued Briles personally and the Baylor AD for "gross negligence." Lozano lost her gross negligence claims against Briles and the AD, but she won her Title IX and negligence claims against Baylor, proving to the jury that Baylor was "deliberately indifferent" to all her assault reports. She didn't sue Lebby personally, but her accusations against him were part of her negligence claims that she won. Apparently Baylor's attorneys tried to ding her credibility on the Lebby issue, saying that her testimony about him had changed over time. (Not sure whether Lebby testified to refute her accusations. The football player accused of assault testified and denied that he did anything to her.) Regardless, her overall credibility was enough for the jury in Texas to find in her favor.

So I'm not sure that it's cut and dry. Here's an article (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38736187/jury-finds-baylor-university-negligent-violated-title-ix) about the suit and verdict.

[Coach34]

I like Lebby

I love lamp

[Really Clark?]

The one from a couple weeks ago was just 1 particular accuser out of dozens, right?

That's right. It was just 1. Baylor settled with the 15 others

[Tater]

That's right. It was just 1. Baylor settled with the 15 others

Lebby isn't going to be OC at OU one way or the other. I expect his name to be rumored heavily in any job openings. I do not want us to take him. Strictly personal. Some things are bigger than sports. I can't in good conscious ring my cowbell for him.

[viverlibre]

Lebby isn't going to be OC at OU one way or the other. I expect his name to be rumored heavily in any job openings. I do not want us to take him. Strictly personal. Some things are bigger than sports. I can't in good conscious ring my cowbell for him.

I know nothing about the case, but even if he is innocent, just the accusations are something the AD/University doesn't want to have to deal with.

[KB21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9yYmlgX0AE7KWv?format=jpg&name=small

[Cooterpoot]

That's right. It was just 1. Baylor settled with the 15 others

Which means Briles and some others were not specifically found responsible in any case. Baylor took the hit, but the others got off the hook. And I'm not saying it's a good thing at all. Just that they were not found individually responsible.

[Really Clark?]

Which means Briles and some others were not specifically found responsible in any case. Baylor took the hit, but the others got off the hook. And I'm not saying it's a good thing at all. Just that they were not found individually responsible.

No, Briles had withdrawn his motion to have a separate lawyer for the lawsuits. He stayed with the Baylor lawyers and they settled with 15 women. He wasn't exonerated in those lawsuits.

[Homedawg]

Which means Briles and some others were not specifically found responsible in any case. Baylor took the hit, but the others got off the hook. And I'm not saying it's a good thing at all. Just that they were not found individually responsible.

No that's not what that means. At allllllll. Nobody is hiring that guy period

[TrapGame]

If we hire Lebby it means Herman and a few others turned us down.

[gtowndawg]

If we hire Lebby it means Herman and a few others turned us down.

Agreed

[Maverick91]

If we hire Lebby it means Herman and a few others turned us down.

Which would make the situation really insulting. I might have maroon glasses on, but I believe this program is one good coach away from being a competitor. I hope our AD is truly a stud and wants to put everything into the football program because he understand it is what pushes everything else forward.

[HoopsDawg]

If we hire Lebby it means Herman and a few others turned us down.

Need to have something lined up before firing Arnett.

[Really Clark?]

Need to have something lined up before firing Arnett.

I want 3 options lined up. A good, better and best.

[Coach34]

Which would make the situation really insulting. I might have maroon glasses on, but I believe this program is one good coach away from being a competitor. I hope our AD is truly a stud and wants to put everything into the football program because he understand it is what pushes everything else forward.

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

[TrapGame]

Need to have something lined up before firing Arnett.

If I were to bet on it now I'd bet Tom Herman is our next coach in 2024 and it's announced the Saturday after the EB.

[gtowndawg]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

Ridiculous. The coach 100% matters. Yes, the NIL matters too (I give every month) but with the right coach making a 12 team playoff on a 6-8 year cycle is an attainable goal. We're a top 30 athletic program in the country, let's act like it for once.

[Commercecomet24]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

It will be tough to win a title(almost impossible), but there's no reason we can't remain a solid, competitive team, and even have the occassional shot to be even better every 4-5 years. It will require correct use of resources and a sharp coach and staff.

[KB21]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

Got to keep Arnett so Brad keeps his position, huh?

[C&DDAWG32]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward



There's that good ole Ms State attitude! I'm sure there are boosters that think the exact same way, which is the real reason why we will never get ahead.

[TrapGame]

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

Bruh, just stop. You're becoming a total clown.

[HancockCountyDog]

Need to have something lined up before firing Arnett.

I would hope we learned that lesson after firing Jomo.

[Tough Dawg]

HHAHAHAHAH.......just shut down the program then. Awful take.

[PMDawg]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

If the 12 team playoff started this year, Ole Miss would be a pretty heavy favorite to get in it at this point. If they win all 3 of the games they're favored in going forward (A&M, ULM, and us), they would be a virtual lock. 10-2 with losses to Bama and Georgia. Would they win the playoff? No. But they would be in it. If they can do it, so can we. Another bad take on your part. You should take a break.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It really does boil down to coaching. Obviously NIL takes the development part of things out, but look back to 2014. Yes we had Dak, obviously a severely underrated talent and we had some good defensive pieces like BMac but by and large a lot of our players were two stars that did not really make any noise until 2014. They were developed. You just have to find a coach who can develop and fill with the portal what he cannot develop. It honestly is why hitting on a QB in recruiting is so big. Because if you do not you are fighting 30 other teams who also did not hit with their players. This is also why I think you have to hire an offensive minded HC. They know a little better what they are looking for at that position.

[Maverick91]

If I were to bet on it now I'd bet Tom Herman is our next coach in 2024 and it's announced the Saturday after the EB.

You know something? Spill the beans?

[Maverick91]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

I didn’t say we would win a title, I said competitive. Which means putting a solid product on the field week in and week out that is exciting to watch and brings the university a lot of respect. That is not out of our reach and bringing in the right head guy does matter to that.

[deltadawg63]

It really does boil down to coaching. Obviously NIL takes the development part of things out, but look back to 2014. Yes we had Dak, obviously a severely underrated talent and we had some good defensive pieces like BMac but by and large a lot of our players were two stars that did not really make any noise until 2014. They were developed. You just have to find a coach who can develop and fill with the portal what he cannot develop. It honestly is why hitting on a QB in recruiting is so big. Because if you do not you are fighting 30 other teams who also did not hit with their players. This is also why I think you have to hire an offensive minded HC. They know a little better what they are looking for at that position.

The QB position is more critical than ever in multiple facets. PR/face of the program, recruiting other players and can "cover" for other position weaknesses as much as any coach and scheme can. The game is too offensive focused now and point scoring focus is so essential now, especially for mid-tier teams not named Georgia and Alabama who can depend on defenses on control games. An offensive minded coach who can develop and utilize a quality QB while managing and promoting the program is essential. The other coaches can be hired for their specialties.

[NWADAWG]

You know something? Spill the beans?

I have no idea if he knows anything. Based on it being on a sports message board, I would tend to lean towards no. But, if he Does have any "beans", he just spilt them.

[confucius say]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

I disagree. We were absolutely capable of winning it in 2014. And if we had dan and Dak in 2018.
OM is capable of winning it now with a little better defense.

At a place like state, you will usually have defensive talent. You need an elite offensive mind and an nfl dual threat qb. Do that and you'll be in the mix most years.

[Coursesuper]

It will be tough to win a title(almost impossible), but there's no reason we can't remain a solid, competitive team, and even have the occassional shot to be even better every 4-5 years. It will require correct use of resources and a sharp coach and staff.

This is the truth. Yes, Starkville is not the easiest place in the country to win a bunch of football games. And under the current circumstances with NIL etc there is an entirely new set of challenges. We have to do more with less and we have to find a system that works for us that can help to alleviate the talent gaps that we face in our league. It is definitely not getting any easier. But, that said we can be competitive year in and year out with the occasional great year.

[Homedawg]

Ridiculous. The coach 100% matters. Yes, the NIL matters too (I give every month) but with the right coach making a 12 team playoff on a 6-8 year cycle is an attainable goal. We're a top 30 athletic program in the country, let's act like it for once.

Based on??? The one time we've finished in that spot , meaning top 12, in how many years??? And you have us doing it every 6/8 years?? You are in for a life of disappointment. And yes we are top 30ish. Problem is we play in a league that has at minimum 10 ahead of us. In a 16 team league. And only one for sure behind us. The rest you could throw in a hat.

[gtowndawg]

Even Brandon Walker said today he thinks we will be "restarting" very soon with a new coach. There's obviously discussions going on behind the scenes. Way too much smoke at this point.

[99jc]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward


you have said some pretty dumb shit through the years, but this is stupid beyond stupid.

[ZedFedder]

With the portal being what it is, state is one really good coach away from competing. It is as simple as that.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

My oh my how the expectations have changed

[basedog]

It will be tough to win a title(almost impossible), but there's no reason we can't remain a solid, competitive team, and even have the occassional shot to be even better every 4-5 years. It will require correct use of resources and a sharp coach and staff.

You win my friend, JWS, DM and the Pirate say hold my beer.

[TrapGame]

You know something? Spill the beans?

Nope. I'm making a bold prediction.

[DownwardDawg]

Nope. I'm making a bold prediction.

I like this prediction.

[Coach34]

Got to keep Arnett so Brad keeps his position, huh?

I dont care if we keep Arnett or not. It doesnt change what I posted. Pete will probably be kept no matter who we hire

[Coach34]

If the 12 team playoff started this year, Ole Miss would be a pretty heavy favorite to get in it at this point. If they win all 3 of the games they're favored in going forward (A&M, ULM, and us), they would be a virtual lock. 10-2 with losses to Bama and Georgia. Would they win the playoff? No. But they would be in it. If they can do it, so can we. Another bad take on your part. You should take a break.

Mississippi has twice our NIL also. They spent more money on a back-up QB than we offered guys to have the chance to come start.

[Coach34]

It really does boil down to coaching. Obviously NIL takes the development part of things out, but look back to 2014. Yes we had Dak, obviously a severely underrated talent and we had some good defensive pieces like BMac but by and large a lot of our players were two stars that did not really make any noise until 2014. They were developed. You just have to find a coach who can develop and fill with the portal what he cannot develop. It honestly is why hitting on a QB in recruiting is so big. Because if you do not you are fighting 30 other teams who also did not hit with their players. This is also why I think you have to hire an offensive minded HC. They know a little better what they are looking for at that position.

2014 is long gone. You guys are just now seeing the NIL impact. It's not going to get better

[Cooterpoot]

2014 is long gone. You guys are just now seeing the NIL impact. It's not going to get better

It's about to get better when we get new coaches. NIL is already better. John Cohen's pathetic ass set us back a couple years on NIL and we're just starting to catch up. There's some major commitment coming on that.

[MrCoachKlein]

At least I can make plans for some fall travel trips elsewhere in 2024. It really does help open up the calendar.
Will you take the other shit stirrers, black sails and KB, with you? I hear Canada is nice*

The 3 of you don't bring anything to the table just constantly post the same 2 ideas and derail every conversation with black sails and kb12 lying about stats

[CaptainObvious]

I dont care if we keep Arnett or not. It doesnt change what I posted. Pete will probably be kept no matter who we hire

That would be extremely disappointing. I was hoping Peterson would go work in Oxford and sabotage their program the way he has ours.

[DownwardDawg]

It's about to get better when we get new coaches. NIL is already better. John Cohen's pathetic ass set us back a couple years on NIL and we're just starting to catch up. There's some major commitment coming on that.

There's also going to be a cap placed on it soon. It's coming.

[lastmajordog]

We will never win a title in football. The SEC is just getting tougher and tougher. Nobody has won the SEC outside of the Big 6 in almost 60 years. That's not changing until Texas or Oklahoma wins it. It will just get harder and harder to win here. NIL is already doing that. We are having to spend alot to keep and arent able to spend much to acquire.

Who our coach is really doesnt matter very much moving forward

Lane seems to not understand this....

[parabrave]

There's also going to be a cap placed on it soon. It's coming.

I bet there will be a major tweaking to the portal changes also/ Saban will see to that.

[Coach34]

Lane seems to not understand this....

Lame has at least twice the NIL we do

[Coach34]

I bet there will be a major tweaking to the portal changes also/ Saban will see to that.

You guys keep hoping for that. The genie never goes back in the bottle

[Quaoarsking]

Mississippi has twice our NIL also. They spent more money on a back-up QB than we offered guys to have the chance to come start.

Stuff like that isn't sustainable. The market is going to equalize itself, as markets do.

[Coach34]

Stuff like that isn't sustainable. The market is going to equalize itself, as markets do.

Why didnt it when it was underground for the last 50 years?

[BeardoMSU]

I dont care if we keep Arnett or not. It doesnt change what I posted. Pete will probably be kept no matter who we hire

Oh boy.

This is actually pretty clear, considering you never answered my question (and others) about carrying water for this staff because they're your buds and/or the access/ego inflation you get....

We get it, dude.

[Coach34]

Oh boy.

This is actually pretty clear, considering you never answered my question (and others) about carrying water for this staff because they're your buds and/or the access/ego inflation you get....

We get it, dude.

literally nothing to do with "buds". I just judge what I see.

[Homedawg]

Mississippi has twice our NIL also. They spent more money on a back-up QB than we offered guys to have the chance to come start.

While our nil has grown a ton. They have more in 3 players than we have in our entire team. Thanks to Charlie we have a legit nil now. But it's still a tough gig

[Coach34]

While our nil has grown a ton. They have more in 3 players than we have in our entire team. Thanks to Charlie we have a legit nil now. But it's still a tough gig

Exactly- but Arnett should be Lame to our fans. Its not what it was even 5 years ago

[Homedawg]

I like this prediction.

He won't be our coach. He's gonna wait for a bigger gig.

[Coach34]

He won't be our coach. He's gonna wait for a bigger gig.

Thats my thought also. Why would he take a bottom level SEC job with a bottom level NIL?

[BeardoMSU]

literally nothing to do with "buds". I just judge what I see.

Clearly, lol...

Your dishonesty here isn't fooling anyone, and quite bizarre, tbh; because it's not necessary.

[viverlibre]

Stuff like that isn't sustainable. The market is going to equalize itself, as markets do.

Actually the opposite, it's going to get bigger and bigger, unless guardrails are put in place, then the under the table stuff will just come back.

[Quaoarsking]

Why didnt it when it was underground for the last 50 years?

I'm talking about Power 5 starting QBs transferring to other Power 5 schools to be 3rd string with NIL money. There's just no way that's a worthwhile investment, and I think it will peter out in a few years.

NIL itself will continue to be a big deal, but it will get a lot of regulation over the next decade. Hopefully a "salary cap" type of thing, and revenue/NIL sharing at the conference level.

[DownwardDawg]

He won't be our coach. He's gonna wait for a bigger gig.

Come on man!!!!!
Crushed my hopes like a slow moving roach.

[Coach34]

Clearly, lol...

Your dishonesty here isn't fooling anyone, and quite bizarre, tbh; because it's not necessary.

thats crazy to me except that I understand many of you dont really understand football and what it takes to coach a team. To get 11 guys to work together. To realize you have stupid people that mess the simpliest of things up. Making tacos, cutting grass, and the other really basic things many of you do as opposed to trying to get a group of average intellingence people to do what they are supposed to do is hard to understand.

[Santiago]

Will you take the other shit stirrers, black sails and KB, with you? I hear Canada is nice*

The 3 of you don't bring anything to the table just constantly post the same 2 ideas and derail every conversation with black sails and kb12 lying about stats

yes sir, enjoy your RTDF team.
We are celebrating the 1998 team this weekend, and in a strange twist Kentucky beat us in 1998, with Mike Leach as the OC running the AR.

[Homedawg]

Actually the opposite, it's going to get bigger and bigger, unless guardrails are put in place, then the under the table stuff will just come back.

The under the table stuff hasn't gone away. It's illegal to pay them before they get here. That's never stopped.

[KOdawg1]

You gotta give him credit. He's committed to the troll job

[Homedawg]

I'm talking about Power 5 starting QBs transferring to other Power 5 schools to be 3rd string with NIL money. There's just no way that's a worthwhile investment, and I think it will peter out in a few years.

NIL itself will continue to be a big deal, but it will get a lot of regulation over the next decade. Hopefully a "salary cap" type of thing, and revenue/NIL sharing at the conference level.

How do you cap it?? Can't cap nil. Now will people get sick of it?? Maybe. But the big boys have always ponies up more. Is what it is.

[DownwardDawg]

How do you cap it?? Can't cap nil. Now will people get sick of it?? Maybe. But the big boys have always ponies up more. Is what it is.

Some of the major players like aTM are already lobbying congress to do something about it.
And they have more money than anyone. The big boys are already sick of it.

[BeardoMSU]

thats crazy to me except that I understand many of you dont really understand football and what it takes to coach a team. To get 11 guys to work together. To realize you have stupid people that mess the simpliest of things up. Making tacos, cutting grass, and the other really basic things many of you do as opposed to trying to get a group of average intellingence people to do what they are supposed to do is hard to understand.

None of what you said explains why you were so high on this team pre-season, singing praises of the staff...to now making excuses after excuses for them, lol. Now it's bc we're a bottom tier program...interesting.

Again, there's no need to be this full of shit.

[BeardoMSU]

You gotta give him credit. He's committed to the troll job

Yep.

[Homedawg]

Great idea Santiago. Pull it. That will help. And anyone who brags about shit like that is usually lying. It's like being in hs and the dude who's telling you how much he's getting laid. The one who talks the most is usually getting the least.

[Coach34]

None of what you said explains why you were so high on this team pre-season, singing praises of the staff...to now making excuses after excuses for them, lol. Now it's bc we're a bottom tier program...interesting.

Again, there's no need to be this full of shit.

I thought the experience would overcome the talent deficiences. But it hasnt. And here we are

[Homedawg]

Some of the major players like aTM are already lobbying congress to do something about it.
And they have more money than anyone. The big boys are already sick of it.
Congress. Right. I feel better. The Supreme Court has already ruled you can't cap NIL. Now I know what we have isn't true nil. But prove it. Ncaa is worthless.

[Coach34]

Congress. Right. I feel better. The Supreme Court has already ruled you can't cap NIL. Now I know what we have isn't true nil. But prove it. Ncaa is worthless.

lol- nothing is going to change in NIL. And we will fall farther back

[dawgday166]

thats crazy to me except that I understand many of you dont really understand football and what it takes to coach a team. To get 11 guys to work together. To realize you have stupid people that mess the simpliest of things up. Making tacos, cutting grass, and the other really basic things many of you do as opposed to trying to get a group of average intellingence people to do what they are supposed to do is hard to understand.

One thing you don't do, whether they're really intelligent or of average intelligence, is come in, slam the breaks on a well-established path, and start completely from scratch. Intelligence has nothing to do with that at all. And I've led really intelligent people. They're much more difficult than the, as you describe them, lesser intelligent ones. And you don't slam the breaks on ALL of it for sure, especially the parts that were working really well like S&C (not talking about the offense here at all).

And you damn sure don't promise to keep continuity and culture and to ease into it, then do all of the above.

However, Leach would've put in his offense immediately either way. HOWEVER Leach knew how to be organized and build it, which obviously Zach and the Homeboys are lacking in experience doing that. Leach had been a part of that before. He had been an OC for 10 years before that, with 2 in SEC and 1 at OK under Bob Stoops who won a Natty with Leach's offense the year after Leach left.

Leach had proven it before, yet that didn't matter during the 1st year of the dumpster fire he inherited while playing an all-freshmen backfield and a young Oline and all the other adversity he faced.

Mullen knew how to do it too after 12 years with Urban Meyer.

And when you don't lose any of your defensive staff and your defensive players look outta shape, confused, their eyes ain't where they need to be, and you haven't changed your base defense, that's a BIG problem.

Not only do we have a HC with 5 total years as a DC (only 3 in SEC), but we then hire an OC with only 2 years as an OC is G5 conferences with 2 different schools. There is NO experience there.

Woe is me ... poor lil ole me.

Y'all obviously wanted this so now ... man up and own it. Leach didn't sit up there at the podium crying and whining about all the adversity he was facing while everyone was on his ass all the time. And you were one of the ring leaders of all of that.

[Quaoarsking]

How do you cap it?? Can't cap nil. Now will people get sick of it?? Maybe. But the big boys have always ponies up more. Is what it is.

Of course you can. You make a rule that says all NIL must run through the school's NIL fund, and there is a cap to what can be paid out. Any school that goes over the limit is severely punsihed.

You don't see NFL teams, for example, cheating the salary cap with under the table payments. It's a theoretically enforceable thing, we just have to have an NCAA (or another organization) that does its job.

[DownwardDawg]

Congress. Right. I feel better. The Supreme Court has already ruled you can't cap NIL. Now I know what we have isn't true nil. But prove it. Ncaa is worthless.

Congress=money = politics. It's all connected. These universities have pull in congress. Hell, Ted Cruz has already drafted a bill to change NIL. It may take a while but something is gonna happen.

[Todd4State]

One thing you don't do, whether they're really intelligent or of average intelligence, is come in, slam the breaks on a well-established path, and start completely from scratch. Intelligence has nothing to do with that at all. And I've led really intelligent people. They're much more difficult than the, as you describe them, lesser intelligent ones. And you don't slam the breaks on ALL of it for sure, especially the parts that were working really well like S&C (not talking about the offense here at all).

And you damn sure don't promise to keep continuity and culture and to ease into it, then do all of the above.

However, Leach would've put in his offense immediately either way. HOWEVER Leach knew how to be organized and build it, which obviously Zach and the Homeboys are lacking in experience doing that. Leach had been a part of that before. He had been an OC for 10 years before that, with 2 in SEC and 1 at OK under Bob Stoops who won a Natty with Leach's offense the year after Leach left.

Leach had proven it before, yet that didn't matter during the 1st year of the dumpster fire he inherited while playing an all-freshmen backfield and a young Oline and all the other adversity he faced.

Mullen knew how to do it too after 12 years with Urban Meyer.

And when you don't lose any of your defensive staff and your defensive players look outta shape, confused, their eyes ain't where they need to be, and you haven't changed your base defense, that's a BIG problem.

Not only do we have a HC with 5 total years as a DC (only 3 in SEC), but we then hire an OC with only 2 years as an OC is G5 conferences with 2 different schools. There is NO experience there.

Woe is me ... poor lil ole me.

Y'all obviously wanted this so now ... man up and own it. Leach didn't sit up there at the podium crying and whining about all the adversity he was facing while everyone was on his ass all the time. And you were one of the ring leaders of all of that.

Very well said.

[Coursesuper]

lol- nothing is going to change in NIL. And we will fall farther back

Sadly I agree with you. The NIL schools are separating themselves now and the gap is just going to continue to grow. They will be their own league within the next five years.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Of course you can. You make a rule that says all NIL must run through the school's NIL fund, and there is a cap to what can be paid out. Any school that goes over the limit is severely punsihed.

You don't see NFL teams, for example, cheating the salary cap with under the table payments. It's a theoretically enforceable thing, we just have to have an NCAA (or another organization) that does its job.

Sigh. I keep seeing this complete lack of understanding of what NIL is and what the comparison is to the NFL.

NIL is a player getting paid by a business to make an add. NIL is not a "salary" from the school.

The NFL has "NIL", it's just called "endorsements" or "advertisements". Dak on his rookie contract made about 20x his "salary" through these adds. It's not counted against the Cowboys salary cap. And yes, large market teams have more interest from advertisers and that absolutely is an "under the table" -if you will- benefit that draws star players to that team compared to small market teams. But again, NIL is to college athletes what yogurt adds are for Dak

[Quaoarsking]

NIL is a player getting paid by a business to make an add. NIL is not a "salary" from the school.


That's a naive way to look at it. The vast majority of NIL, at least at the elite programs, is essentially just salary way beyond the market value of the endorsements. You see players getting 6- and 7-figure deals without even having played a down.

That's not the case in the NFL, where endorsement dollars do align with the market.

College football would be far better off to acknowledge this reality and drop the "NIL" label for what is really is - "salary."

[Coursesuper]

That's a naive way to look at it. The vast majority of NIL, at least at the elite programs, is essentially just salary way beyond the market value of the endorsements. You see players getting 6- and 7-figure deals without even having played a down.

That's not the case in the NFL, where endorsement dollars do align with the market.

College football would be far better off to acknowledge this reality and drop the "NIL" label for what is really is - "salary."

Yep, it is nothing more than pay for play.

[Really Clark?]

That's a naive way to look at it. The vast majority of NIL, at least at the elite programs, is essentially just salary way beyond the market value of the endorsements. You see players getting 6- and 7-figure deals without even having played a down.

That's not the case in the NFL, where endorsement dollars do align with the market.

College football would be far better off to acknowledge this reality and drop the "NIL" label for what is really is - "salary."

I get what you are saying but once it's acknowledged as salary, then they are employees. Now you have all the complications that go with that, contracts and collective bargaining with a players union. That can be regulated with a salary cap. NIL as it's structured, not how it's being used, but how it's structured right now...how can you regulated that?

[Quaoarsking]

I get what you are saying but once it's acknowledged as salary, then they are employees. Now you have all the complications that go with that, contracts and collective bargaining with a players union. That can be regulated with a salary cap. NIL as it's structured, not how it's being used, but how it's structured right now...how can you regulated that?

All of those complications are a better system than what we have now. If that option is on the table, let's do it.

[Really Clark?]

All of those complications are a better system than what we have now. If that option is on the table, let's do it.

Maybe, I see it both ways. It would be more complicated than many think. It would be a way to regulate for sure, but has a whole other set of problems, not to mention financial burdens for the school and state.

[KB21]

One thing you don't do, whether they're really intelligent or of average intelligence, is come in, slam the breaks on a well-established path, and start completely from scratch. Intelligence has nothing to do with that at all. And I've led really intelligent people. They're much more difficult than the, as you describe them, lesser intelligent ones. And you don't slam the breaks on ALL of it for sure, especially the parts that were working really well like S&C (not talking about the offense here at all).

And you damn sure don't promise to keep continuity and culture and to ease into it, then do all of the above.

However, Leach would've put in his offense immediately either way. HOWEVER Leach knew how to be organized and build it, which obviously Zach and the Homeboys are lacking in experience doing that. Leach had been a part of that before. He had been an OC for 10 years before that, with 2 in SEC and 1 at OK under Bob Stoops who won a Natty with Leach's offense the year after Leach left.

Leach had proven it before, yet that didn't matter during the 1st year of the dumpster fire he inherited while playing an all-freshmen backfield and a young Oline and all the other adversity he faced.

Mullen knew how to do it too after 12 years with Urban Meyer.

And when you don't lose any of your defensive staff and your defensive players look outta shape, confused, their eyes ain't where they need to be, and you haven't changed your base defense, that's a BIG problem.

Not only do we have a HC with 5 total years as a DC (only 3 in SEC), but we then hire an OC with only 2 years as an OC is G5 conferences with 2 different schools. There is NO experience there.

Woe is me ... poor lil ole me.

Y'all obviously wanted this so now ... man up and own it. Leach didn't sit up there at the podium crying and whining about all the adversity he was facing while everyone was on his ass all the time. And you were one of the ring leaders of all of that.

Bingo. Mike Leach is the best coach this program ever had.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

That's a naive way to look at it. The vast majority of NIL, at least at the elite programs, is essentially just salary way beyond the market value of the endorsements. You see players getting 6- and 7-figure deals without even having played a down.

That's not the case in the NFL, where endorsement dollars do align with the market.

College football would be far better off to acknowledge this reality and drop the "NIL" label for what is really is - "salary."

I don't disagree that NIL is being used as a salary in practice- I'm stating that LEGALLY, in the eyes of the courts, NIL is the same as an NFL player endorsing Activia.

You can't contain NIL for that reason

[CoachT14]

Why didnt it when it was underground for the last 50 years?

Lol. Because underground markets don't do that.

[CoachT14]

lol- nothing is going to change in NIL. And we will fall farther back

What does Arnett do well as HC?

[Offshore Dawg]

Of course you can. You make a rule that says all NIL must run through the school's NIL fund, and there is a cap to what can be paid out. Any school that goes over the limit is severely punsihed.

You don't see NFL teams, for example, cheating the salary cap with under the table payments. It's a theoretically enforceable thing, we just have to have an NCAA (or another organization) that does its job.

You may want to check all the car dealerships that Elway owned while playing for the Broncos.

[msstate7]

Delete

[gtowndawg]

One thing you don't do, whether they're really intelligent or of average intelligence, is come in, slam the breaks on a well-established path, and start completely from scratch. Intelligence has nothing to do with that at all. And I've led really intelligent people. They're much more difficult than the, as you describe them, lesser intelligent ones. And you don't slam the breaks on ALL of it for sure, especially the parts that were working really well like S&C (not talking about the offense here at all).

And you damn sure don't promise to keep continuity and culture and to ease into it, then do all of the above.

However, Leach would've put in his offense immediately either way. HOWEVER Leach knew how to be organized and build it, which obviously Zach and the Homeboys are lacking in experience doing that. Leach had been a part of that before. He had been an OC for 10 years before that, with 2 in SEC and 1 at OK under Bob Stoops who won a Natty with Leach's offense the year after Leach left.

Leach had proven it before, yet that didn't matter during the 1st year of the dumpster fire he inherited while playing an all-freshmen backfield and a young Oline and all the other adversity he faced.

Mullen knew how to do it too after 12 years with Urban Meyer.

And when you don't lose any of your defensive staff and your defensive players look outta shape, confused, their eyes ain't where they need to be, and you haven't changed your base defense, that's a BIG problem.

Not only do we have a HC with 5 total years as a DC (only 3 in SEC), but we then hire an OC with only 2 years as an OC is G5 conferences with 2 different schools. There is NO experience there.

Woe is me ... poor lil ole me.

Y'all obviously wanted this so now ... man up and own it. Leach didn't sit up there at the podium crying and whining about all the adversity he was facing while everyone was on his ass all the time. And you were one of the ring leaders of all of that.


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[KB21]

Zac Selmon needs to seriously consider Ryan Grubb, Washington's Offensive Coordinator.

[CaptainObvious]

Zac Selmon needs to seriously consider Ryan Grubb, Washington's Offensive Coordinator.

Please! NO MORE COORDINATORS IN THEIR FIRST P5 HC JOB AT STATE!

[basedog]

Please! NO MORE COORDINATORS IN THEIR FIRST P5 HC JOB AT STATE!

I agree.

[KB21]

Please! NO MORE COORDINATORS IN THEIR FIRST P5 HC JOB AT STATE!

So, Zach Arnett being a trash coach makes you afraid of hiring a coordinator as a first time head coach?

[BlackSailsDawg]

:)

[Goldendawg]

What does Arnett do well as HC?

Admit that the team was unprepared at the postgame interview after each hard to watch loss.

[Commercecomet24]

Who would've ever thought ED would turn into "The View", lol!

[TrapGame]

:)

Ok, I'll bite BSD. What's going on with this smiley emoji?

[gtowndawg]

Who would've ever thought ED would turn into "The View", lol!

Even if the season is a dud we can still come here for entertainment!

[basedog]

Who would've ever thought ED would turn into "The View", lol!

It is that for sho! Getting harder and harder to read and even post.

[sandjunky]

It is that for sho! Getting harder and harder to read and even post.
Just wait till baseball season 😂

[Really Clark?]

Who would've ever thought ED would turn into "The View", lol!

Lol. That's true

[basedog]

Just wait till baseball season ��

I hope not, but before baseball season, when does Basketball start? LOL

[Commercecomet24]

Even if the season is a dud we can still come here for entertainment!

It's definitely entertaining, lol!

[Commercecomet24]

I hope not, but before baseball season, when does Basketball start? LOL

Heaven forbid if Jans gets off to slow start. There's blood in the water now and folks maybe calling for him to be fired if loses an exhibition game!

[Commercecomet24]

Just wait till baseball season ��

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sandjunky again.

[Goldendawg]

Just wait till baseball season ��

There will be little griping as we make our move from 13th to 12th and thus back to Hoover!****

[sandjunky]

There will be little griping as we make our move from 13th to 12th and thus back to Hoover!****

I?d have more faith in Lemonis if he?d actually built the standard and culture