Game thread

[parabrave]

jeez.

[TrapGame]

Y'all know Derrick Mason is looking at this defense like WTF?

[R2Dawg]

Defense is still the issue

It ain't the only issue though.

[662dawg]

Y'all know Derrick Mason is looking at this defense like WTF?

Derek Mason needs to be coaching this defense.

[Really Clark?]

Hurry up is killing us

[CaptainObvious]

We had 9 players on the field on their 4th and 1 at their 34.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Derek Mason needs to be coaching this defense.

No Zach Arnett does. And not be the HC.

[R2Dawg]

CZA with clueless look for the TV

[parabrave]

dam haven't we learned the art of faking cramps

[TrapGame]

Derek Mason needs to be coaching this defense.

I'd take Petrino as OC/HC and Derek Mason as DC/asst. HC RIGHT ****ING NOW!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

Odds we win one SEC game?

[Maroonthirteen]

Some folks are getting exactly what they wished for.

Agreed. This back and forth with QBs. We will not get into any rhythm and be disjointed offensively vs UK.

[662dawg]

No Zach Arnett does. And not be the HC.

At this point I'd rather him just find a new home.

[R2Dawg]

CZA and Brock with words?

[BlackSailsDawg]

Had this game plan been in sec play, we are losing.

[Dawgology]

This defense is Peter Sirmon bad. There needs to be a real change in the bye week. This is freaking embarrassing

[R2Dawg]

Actually a very good crowd considering the product on the field.

[SaintDawg]

Garbage.

[99jc]

there is nothing more to say this team is laughable and deficient in so many areas, its just sad!

[defiantdog]

Had this game plan been in sec play, we are losing.
We may lose this game

[BuckyIsAB****]

This defense is Peter Sirmon bad. There needs to be a real change in the bye week. This is freaking embarrassing

Its a lot about effort

[R2Dawg]

Nice AR pass to RB for loss of 1.

[msstate7]

We gotta get more speed on D. Jett may need to sit

[msstate7]

Wright from here out

[Turfdawg67]

Y'all know Derrick Mason is looking at this defense like WTF?

At the 5:41 mark, when asked, Mason called our defense "solid". I'm not kidding...

[R2Dawg]

Rogers wouldn't start for Western MI

[parabrave]

nice pass

[99jc]

i dont even give a darn if we lose if it gets this staff fired

[R2Dawg]

At the 5:41 mark, when asked, Mason called our defense "solid". I'm not kidding...

Yeah I heard that. We got the D- team calling game.

[Thick]

Harmon has to catch that ball.

[CaptainObvious]

Take away there roughing the kicker and we are up 27-21. Freaking embarrassing!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Rogers wouldn't start for Western MI

Neither would Mike Wright. The WMU 3rd string is outplaying both of them.

Let that sink in, A G5 3rd stringer is out playing a P5 starter and his backup.

[R2Dawg]

Can we get their QB to transfer mid season?

[defiantdog]

We're gonna lose this game

[R2Dawg]

The OL holding they are letting them do is ridiculous

[TrapGame]

At the 5:41 mark, when asked, Mason called our defense "solid". I'm not kidding...

Mason is texting his agent to call Selmon asap.

[R2Dawg]

Neither would Mike Wright. The WMU 3rd string is outplaying both of them.

Let that sink in, A G5 3rd stringer is out playing a P5 starter and his backup.

I've already said that earlier. What your point?

[Turfdawg67]

Odds we win one SEC game?

0.0

[BlackSailsDawg]

It is not a player.issue.

It is a coaching issue. He is experimenting with this offense.

If you want to put the ba k up in, win the damn game first.

[TrapGame]

We're gonna lose this game

And everyone should be fired if we do.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It is not a player.issue.

It is a coaching issue. He is experimenting with this offense.

If you want to put the ba k up in, win the damn game first.

Barbay is the least of our problems on staff. He is actually doing a good job considering all what it is going on behind closed doors

[Pinto]

This place is so quiet I can hear our coaches yelling and I?m in the club level.

[Santiago]

That's a 90 yard pick six in SEC play. But it worked out for us. Our offense will be running like a well oiled machine next week after the prep they getting today. Lol

Agree... SEC Defenses would have taken that back for a TD

[EdwardDrayton]

0.0

LOL! With a decimal! Well played Turf!!

[Coursesuper]

The folks that hired our chief of staff. Then him and the folks he hired.

We have agendas on the staff
I?d say that?s fairly evident.

[Santiago]

Can we get their QB to transfer mid season?

We are no longer running the offense that he is picking us apart with.

[HRTFXR]

Rogers wouldn't start for Western MI

Will Rogers wouldn’t start for The W

[defiantdog]

It is not a player.issue.

It is a coaching issue. He is experimenting with this offense.

If you want to put the ba k up in, win the damn game first.
Is he experimenting with the defense as well cause they are hot garbage. Not just coaching

[TrapGame]

It is not a player.issue.

It is a coaching issue. He is experimenting with this offense.

If you want to put the ba k up in, win the damn game first.

Dude, the car is totaled and you're bitching about the crack in the windshield.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Arnett's sideline demeanor makes Leach look like Bobby Knight.

[Turfdawg67]

Kentucky might run for 400 yds

[Santiago]

Western KY is now using the clock to their advantage.... TOP and moving the ball and giving their D a rest... Doing it with short surgical passing.
But Arnett would not run that offense.
Still unreal.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Barbay is the least of our problems on staff. He is actually doing a good job considering all what it is going on behind closed doors

No he isn't. It's his Jon to pit our best players on the field and in the best position to win.

You don't play the back up when the game is not won. You win it and put him in.

Don't give a damn what's going on behind closed doors. If there is player issues, get rid of them.

Etc etc

[DownwardDawg]

We're gonna lose this game

I think so too. And honestly, that might not be a horrible thing. This is like Croom years. If we lose today..............

[Really Clark?]

Dude, the car is totaled and you're bitching about the crack in the windshield.

No kidding. Barbay is not the problem

[BlackSailsDawg]

Dude, the car is totaled and you're bitching about the crack in the windshield.

I'm batching about the b people breaking the windshield

[Santiago]

Crap they had a WR wide open downfield on that 4th down play. We are fortunate.

[Santiago]

No kidding. Barbay is not the problem

Today's game or the LSU game?

[R2Dawg]

Agreed. This back and forth with QBs. We will not get into any rhythm and be disjointed offensively vs UK.

Rhythm? We ain't had that all year playing just one all the time. Give me a break.

[Really Clark?]

What a freaking catch Freddie!!!

[TrapGame]

Crap they had a WR wide open downfield on that 4th down play. We are fortunate.

Ain't the first time this game. SEC QBs will make those throws. Hell, Wolf could have ran it for a 1st down too. He was going for the TD play.

[Pinto]

That pass is picked in SEC play.

[parabrave]

Roberson makes a great catch on that short arm pass

[defiantdog]

That pass is picked in SEC play.
Doubt it, contested, yes.

[Really Clark?]

Today's game or the LSU game?

Oh it's not AR so your opinion is irrelevant. Barbay is not our biggest issue on this team.

[State82]

That pass is picked in SEC play.

Blind hog.

[662dawg]

Awesome catch Freddie. Will threw that as far as he could & it was badly under thrown... way to save him Freddie.

[BuckyIsAB****]

No he isn't. It's his Jon to pit our best players on the field and in the best position to win.

You don't play the back up when the game is not won. You win it and put him in.

Don't give a damn what's going on behind closed doors. If there is player issues, get rid of them.

Etc etc

Im not going to go to far into this but you just need to know, not everyone on this staff is pulling in the same direction

[Turfdawg67]

Delete

[TrapGame]

Under thrown ball that Roberson luckily adjusted to catch. SEC play that's batted down or it's an INT.

[Really Clark?]

That pass is picked in SEC play.

It's a 50/50 ball that most have been begging for Will to throw. Honestly I think Freddie wins that battle more times than not with that effort. Even in the SEC

[BlackSailsDawg]

Roberson makes a great catch on that short arm pass

That's a 50 50 ball with air under it. He is expect to bring those down

[PMDawg]

Arnett and Brock may be great as HC and DC one day, but right now they suck. They have no business being in those positions in the SEC. We can't afford to have them learn on the job here. We have to admit this was a failed experiment and cut bait ASAP.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Yeah it was not a good throw and the WR had no separation. It was a jump ball and the DB I don't think thought the ball would be thrown.

Good adjustment by Freddie, but not good overall offense, if that makes sense.

Who whole team seems like they're in a trance. Like they're unsure if they are willing to try or not, unsure whether to give up or fight

[Santiago]

Oh it's not AR so your opinion is irrelevant. Barbay is not our biggest issue on this team.

I agree with you on the offense, so chill with the AR crap. . Still asking how did we look so bad against LSU, when everyone else is scoring on them. Recently, LSU has allowed 17 scores on 21 offensive drives against them.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will throws one up deep which is what you all want and we still bitch. When your car doesnt start, it will be wills fault

[BlackSailsDawg]

Im not going to go to far into this but you just need to know, not everyone on this staff is pulling in the same direction

No I get it. That's not my point t Bucky. He just needs to do his job.

[Santiago]

Under thrown ball that Roberson luckily adjusted to catch. SEC play that's batted down or it's an INT.

That's MSU football baby!!! ***

[Really Clark?]

Will throws one up deep which is what you all want and we still bitch. When your car doesnt start, it will be wills fault

I agree. A little under but into the wind as well. Great job by Freddie

[662dawg]

That's a 50 50 ball with air under it. He is expect to bring those down

Ummm 50/50 throws aren't normally 5 yards underthrown. That was all Freddie.

[R2Dawg]

Who is our secondary coach?

More I watch, Brock gotta go. If CZA don't fix D, he must also go.

[msstate7]

When's the last time we had a defense with no nfl players? I think we have that now

[Leroy Jenkins]

Mason: "wide open in the middle of the field, I don't know if they have a defense designed to do that."

[DownwardDawg]

It's a 50/50 ball that most have been begging for Will to throw. Honestly I think Freddie wins that battle more times than not with that effort. Even in the SEC

I agree. That's what we want our receivers to do right there.

[TrapGame]

"A career performance for Kenneth Womack."

Yeah, our defense has that effect on players for the opposing team.

[Really Clark?]

I agree with you on the offense, so chill with the AR crap. . Still asking how did we look so bad against LSU, when everyone else is scoring on them. Recently, LSU has allowed 17 scores on 21 offensive drives against them.

Well stop bring it up constantly!! I love AR but it is NOT the only offense that works and works as well or better. It's just not.

[SPMT]

Who is our secondary coach?

More I watch, Brock gotta go. If CZA don't fix D, he must also go.

This is the worst coaching we?ve had in a long time. It?s across the board, offense and defense and HC. Pitiful.

[R2Dawg]

When's the last time we had a defense with no nfl players? I think we have that now

I think we got a few but our D talent has nose dived since Mullen left and a lot the last 3 years.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Under thrown ball that Roberson luckily adjusted to catch. SEC play that's batted down or it's an INT.

That's a 50 50 ball throw to the right spot because the coverage was there. The WR was not open but the pass gave him the opportunity to make a GREAT catch... and it was a great catch

[Santiago]

Well stop bring it up constantly!! I love AR but it is NOT the only offense that works and works as well or better. It's just not.

I hear you. Today, I am just pissed. Then we see Western Michigan rubbing it in our face, running it with less talent and a QB with a decent arm and no mobility. I am just pissed that our HC probably wasted a whole lot of time assembly his staff, and nuking things and instead should have been putting in OT on his defense.

[BankerDog]

Who is our secondary coach?

More I watch, Brock gotta go. If CZA don't fix D, he must also go.

Dewhurst who haven?t heard of him? Big time GA we bumped up for his first P5 job.

[BlackSailsDawg]

It's a 50/50 ball that most have been begging for Will to throw. Honestly I think Freddie wins that battle more times than not with that effort. Even in the SEC


It's one hell of a catch

[Turfdawg67]

Im not going to go to far into this but you just need to know, not everyone on this staff is pulling in the same direction

Why post this stuff? Do you want ppl to beg you for your "inside" info? You did it earlier with Tulu and no one but then either. Just say it and stop being coy, Mr Rodgers.

[msstate7]

I don't know who is to blame for the talent level on our D, but someone can go F themself

[R2Dawg]

Nicholson had an Int, just turn around.

[Pinto]

Now that?s a 50/50 ball.

[PMDawg]

We're such a joke.

[R2Dawg]

We are playing the 2nd & 3rd string WMU team and look like crap.

So much for the feel good game heading into off week.

[Leroy Jenkins]

That's a pick in SEC play.*

[BankerDog]

I don't know who is to blame for the talent level on our D, but someone can go F themself

Prob the HC who was the DC the last three years?

[civildawg]

I honestly think you have to fire Brock at the end of the game just for perception. I would say fire arnett but we have no one to take over the reigns

[Really Clark?]

Keep scoring offense, the defense is shot!

Although that actually wasn't bad coverage on the 4th down TD

[R2Dawg]

I don't know who is to blame for the talent level on our D, but someone can go F themself

Previous coaching staff. This didn't happen over night.

[TrapGame]

This is bullshit.

[starkvegasdawg]

I vote we replace the entire defense, coaches and all, with potted plants.

[TrapGame]

I honestly think you have to fire Brock at the end of the game just for perception. I would say fire arnett but we have no one to take over the reigns

Brad Peterson.****

[R2Dawg]

I honestly think you have to fire Brock at the end of the game just for perception. I would say fire arnett but we have no one to take over the reigns

Totally agree. At least save face a little on the season.

[Turfdawg67]

"A career performance for Kenneth Womack."

Yeah, our defense has that effect on players for the opposing team.

Lots of players have "career" games against this D.

[Santiago]

Need to find that guy on Twitter X that tweets analytics. He had us winning by about 8 points. We may go on a big run in the 4th quarter, but that guy is running good data.

[Coursesuper]

Why post this stuff? Do you want ppl to beg you for your "inside" info? You did it earlier with Tulu and no one but then either. Just say it and stop being coy, Mr Rodgers.

Probably because it?s true.

[Santiago]

Brad Peterson.****

That gif with Will Ferrell and Step Brothers portrait with them two would be perfect these days.

[Really Clark?]

I vote we replace the entire defense, coaches and all, with potted plants.

I think some tall plants just planted on the field in certain areas would have better stats than our passing defense.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Why post this stuff? Do you want ppl to beg you for your "inside" info? You did it earlier with Tulu and no one but then either. Just say it and stop being coy, Mr Rodgers.

I say it just to specifically piss you and only you off mr message board poster that doesnt know me from Adam

[msstate7]

Prob the HC who was the DC the last three years?

He certainly napped if it was him. If the HC didn't oversee it at all, he napped too. This D is pathetically untalented.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Keep scoring offense, the defense is shot!

Although that actually wasn't bad coverage on the 4th down TD


Nah.... let's keep experimenting****

[Matt3467]

This defense is Peter Sirmon bad. There needs to be a real change in the bye week. This is freaking embarrassing

It's worse than Sirmon

[RocketDawg]

It's one hell of a catch

Good thing he made that catch or it'd be a 3-point game.

[Really Clark?]

Nice play design

[Bothrops]

I think we got a few but our D talent has nose dived since Mullen left and a lot the last 3 years.

This is what happens when the defense is de-emphasized in recruiting over a period of several cycles.

[Santiago]

He certainly napped if it was him. If the HC didn't oversee it at all, he napped too. This D is pathetically untalented.

Gotta cut Arnett some slack. He was busy building his "vision" of a new offense, instead of fixing his defense.

[R2Dawg]

It's worse than Sirmon

Sirmon had a ton more talent but coaching probably worse. We have little talent now too.

[Pinto]

Bad pass and he hurt our own receiver. That?s next level Will right there.

[defiantdog]

If Will throws a good pass then Zavion don't get hurt

[msstate7]

Gotta cut Arnett some slack. He was busy building his "vision" of a new offense, instead of fixing his defense.

This didn't happen in the offseason. This talent level is an accumulation of bad classes

[R2Dawg]

This is what happens when the defense is de-emphasized in recruiting over a period of several cycles.

Yep, we were busy signing 25 WR for AR.

[msstate7]

Gotta love a 3-yd pass on 3rd and long. Way to check down, will

[BuckyIsAB****]

Hes a murderer!!! I bet he did it on purpose!! Tar and feather him!!!!

[magrooder]

Dang bodies falling out all over the field after every play

[PMDawg]

3rd and 17. Drop it off for 5 yards Will. Great job. That's gonna cost us.

[99jc]

check down charlie when we need 18 yards throw it downfield dumbass

[R2Dawg]

D is bad but lets be honest, if the O was more than craptastic we be hanging 80 on WMU

[TNDawg35]

Welp, old Will is back… 5 yard pass on 3rd and a mile…

[parabrave]

well crap radio is off the air

[Turfdawg67]

Probably because it?s true.

What is true? Tell us, instead of teasing.

[civildawg]

The sooner this season ends, the sooner I don't have to watch will Rogers suit up in a MSU uniform.

[Bothrops]

It's worse than Sirmon

Sirmon's guys couldn't tackle anywhere on the field. At least he's not coaching Jett.

[RockyDog]

Best 3-3 team in the country. No doubt we run the table or have just 1 more loss

[BuckyIsAB****]

This is what happens when the defense is de-emphasized in recruiting over a period of several cycles.

Guys. We all praised these classes at the time.

We are not playing with the same effort we have. Effort on the field or the effort to put in the time to know what to do. There is a reason for it

[99jc]

well crap radio is off the air

save you indigestion

[BlackSailsDawg]

Nah.... let's keep experimenting****


Yep responding to myself. Wasted play and there is no explanation for it. None! The middle of the field was open.

[msstate7]

Sometimes that check down is acceptable. When you at midfield though, take a shot. If they pick it, they pick it. We aren't stopping them either way

[TrapGame]

D is bad but lets be honest, if the O was more than craptastic we be hanging 80 on WMU

This should be 55-13 right now with a well coached offense and defense. Parson could be in right now getting some meaningful reps.

[msstate7]

Sirmon's guys couldn't tackle anywhere on the field. At least he's not coaching Jett.

Jett's 5.6 40 is part of the problem

[RocketDawg]

Dang bodies falling out all over the field after every play

You'd think it was a hot summer day instead of 60 degrees.

[Pinto]

Rogers headed to locker room. Being 100% honest, don?t want the kid to be hurt

[ZedFedder]

Will is in the locker room getting checked out.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Welp, old Will is back… 5 yard pass on 3rd and a mile…

God have mercy on his wretched soul!! Banish him to the nether realm. I want a QB who throws it up but I bitch. But then I want one who will check it down so I can bitch about that

[BlackSailsDawg]

Yep, we were busy signing 25 WR for AR.

I have already disproved your lie. Why repeat it? Do I need to point out the the roster before, during, and after??

[LC Dawg]

WMU is 3-6 on 4th downs. If they didn't go for it any on 4th downs this would be about a 17-10 or 20-14 game.

[PMDawg]

Here comes the 6 man blitz that doesn't cause pressure and long reception for an open WR!

[Bothrops]

It's amazing how things can spiral down so much.

[Matt3467]

Sirmon's guys couldn't tackle anywhere on the field. At least he's not coaching Jett.

Yea the tackling was atrocious but this passing D is imo hands down the worst of the two.

[PMDawg]

Sweet! Let's lose a player every play now!

[parabrave]

can't afford to lose him.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It's amazing how things can spiral down so much.

Some of us got what we were after

[BlackSailsDawg]

Gotta love a 3-yd pass on 3rd and long. Way to check down, will

My god..God... football brother. Rushed 3 and dropped 8.

Now the big question is why we wanted a down where he did not even see the open guys... and I'm not talking Rogers.

[99jc]

i don't know f i ever remember a state team defend this slow, been watching since 68

[msstate7]

i don't know f i ever remember a state team defend this slow, been watching since 68

Defense speed is awful

[Bothrops]

Jett's 5.6 40 is part of the problem

But without him it's an opponent touchdown on nearly any play.

[Matt3467]

Some of us got what we were after

Some maybe but I hope Will is fine.

[msstate7]

That play isn't possible with will

[starkvegasdawg]

I don't understand us not burning clock instead of snapping with 15+.

[Really Clark?]

That was a nice RPO

[RocketDawg]

Good play by Wright if it was legal.

[msstate7]

But without him it's an opponent touchdown on nearly any play.

Maybe. He gets run around a good bit

[parabrave]

nice play there wright.

[R2Dawg]

Hmmm, Wright can throw the short pass.

[vindastra]

Does he not know that he is not supposed to throw?

[Bothrops]

Yea the tackling was atrocious but this passing D is imo hands down the worst of the two.

Yeah I have to agree on that.

[BankerDog]

Jett's 5.6 40 is part of the problem

Had to recruit him because he was 4* kid from Tupelo!

[msstate7]

Go for it. They need 2 scores even if we make it

[parabrave]

our left side of the Oline sucks

[BankerDog]

I miss winning 7 to 9 games already..

[Santiago]

Western Michigan linemen are looking stronger right now than earlier in the game. Wright is not affecting them.

[BankerDog]

our left side of the Oline sucks

The Friend effect!

[R2Dawg]

Backup kicker has looked good.

[EdwardDrayton]

Hmmm, Wright can throw the short pass.

Think he's 8 of 11?

[parabrave]

Had to recruit him because he was 4* kid from Tupelo!



jett is good about stuffing north and south runs but is too slow to defend against anything else

[magrooder]

Defense finally makes a play

[Santiago]

Anyone have any cool nicknames for this staff? ***

[parabrave]

and Will did something to his left shoulder

[msstate7]

jett is good about stuffing north and south runs but is too slow to defend against anything else

He's fine if you have 2 speedsters beside him.

[Bothrops]

Will was just asking Arnett who he thought the next head coach will be.

[BankerDog]

jett is good about stuffing north and south runs but is too slow to defend against anything else

This isn?t the 80s anymore. If we hadn?t recruited him though, Mullen and Co would?ve been crucified.

[TrapGame]

Will isn't moving that left arm.

[Turfdawg67]

Will was just asking Arnett who he thought the next head coach will be.

Lol

[Turfdawg67]

We covered! Oh wait...

[Really Clark?]

Will isn't moving that left arm.

Yeah he's not. Glad Wright got the full offense today if it's bad

[EdwardDrayton]

We covered! Oh wait...

We covered our noses for the smell.