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Coach34
09-24-2023, 10:36 AM
1. Got home at 2am from our football game yesterday so I wasnt in the Chef mood yesterday. Grabbed a rack of ribs from the local BBQ place here that has the best baked beans you'll get that arent made by a grillmaster in a home cook. Little34 had his 1st Homecoming Dance/date also so he was pumped about that. Pics are hilarious with my giant escorting this little short girl. On a positive note he feels like he will be able to dunk by Christmas- which is not bad for a 9th grader.

2. What a lucrative day of college football. Fla State got the momentum going early with their come from behind win- then Bama handled bidness. Wash State rolled. Teaser after teaser hit. But alas, the fun must come to an end as I lost my 9 game parlay on the 9th game when Minnesota blew their 31-10 lead and lost to terrible Northwestern in OT. One game away from a paycheck kind of a day.

3. Congrats to Coach Barbay. Now THAT is more of what the offense was supposed to look like. Be more physical and take some shots down the field. We couldnt run the ball effectively enough to win the game- but scoring 30 points on the road in the SEC against a decent team is a good day. Barbay needed to answer some critics and he most assuredly did. 519 yards of offense for you yards lovers. A damn good day at WR by Mr. Tulu. Just never know what ya gonna get with this offense

4. 1st possession of the game the TE misses his block on Split Zone Right to put us in 2nd and 15. Terrible. Got behind the chains and had to punt. 2nd drive Rogers throw to Thomas was badly underthrown. 3rd drive we finally score. This is what I was talking about when I said 2 could have some success in this offense. He got it down the field and got some air under the ball. Explosive play finally. Goede's hold cost us 7 points and then ohhhh my lordddddd. 2 throws a pick that was just f'ing awful. 4th year guy cant make that mistake. That was really bad.

5. 2's play was solid I guess. His lack of arm strength shows at times. Him dunking the ball into the ground rolling left makes me sad. That was hard to watch. The fumble. The terrible interception. But he did get the ball out and to where it needed to go a good bit. He is what he is. The ball floats but he did get it downfield and on target a few times. A couple of drops hurt- Mosely especially in the 4th. But he did have 10.1 per pass and that is soooo much better than the Airbone dump offs we had to watch his first 10 years at QB.

6. Defensively? It's not coaching. We lack team speed- especially in the Secondary. Our Secondary is SWAC bad. That 1st TD pass by SC Morant was free and not covering anyone and still couldnt make the tackle from Safety. Poor route to the WR and no closing speed at all. Looked like the Coyote chasing the RR. Daniels and Rattler completing passes at a terrifying rate is just ridiculous. But now I see why we get such deep drops by the LB's in zone- the Secondary needs all the help it can get. We really miss those CB's. They disguised alot of weakness.

7. Jumping offsides to extend their 2nd drive was just bad. Again- that's not coaching because the guys are taught to watch the ball. That is just stupidity. Turned 3 points into 7 there. That mistake coupled with Rogers bad pick and its 33-33 in the 4th Q most likely. Huge mistakes.

8. Page's whiff on their wildcat TD run was bad. Get low and drive thru the guy's legs. Holy crap. We have got to start jumping more underneath routes at LB to stop some of these big play dump offs. Use your instincts. Damn. Did I mention we are slow on D? 4 at CB is bad.

9. Overall we played more physical on D- held them to 3 ypc. 4 sacks and 9 TFL's. We are just slowwwww on D and its going to hurt us all year. It's hard to be good on D with a slow back end that cant cover. But here we are.

10. Last night told us alot about who this team is. It's not as bad as people thought but it's far from being a good team. Fortunately in this year's SEC- you dont have to be great to get wins. I think we will give Bama some problems because they struggle to throw the ball consistently. Question is- can we give 2 enough time to make some throws against them? The under is probably a good play this coming Saturday. That's what is great about college football- just never know what ya gonna get. Box of Chocolates

HailState

the_real_MSU_is_us
09-24-2023, 10:46 AM
We lack talent on D, and so far aren't creative enough with our looks to confuse any QB/OL.

We are finding our identity on O, but OL coaching is still bad. That was one of the worst Ds we'll face and we couldn't run and pass protection was just "OK", not really "good". Wide open WRs and Will actually seeing the field hid how bad the OL actually was.

Can't win games if you can't block. Can't win games if your D can't get pressure on the QB. Frankly, that's the end of the story. Our ST is legit though

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2023, 11:21 AM
This is where we come to get a clear and complete game recap. Money.

coachnorm
09-24-2023, 11:42 AM
Great post 34 and I would like to add that we did not try to run an offense with scrub swing, check down, or screen passes. MSU even got drives extended with pass interference calls. We got some offense by not doing the scrub thing? Maybe someone told Will Rogers he better get the ball up field or else?

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 11:42 AM
I agree with most of that Coach. I will say Decarlos had a bad night last night but he?s been our best cb. He?s been covering the other teams best wr the last couple weeks and he shutdown Arizona best and covered nabors well last week til they started moving him around and got him on our safety?s(gave up 4 catches for 23 yards las week). And he?s a sure tackler. He?s been grading out as our best db according to pff and Matt Wyatt has even highlighted his coverage skills several times. He?s not slow either he?s recorded laser timed low 4.5s. He?s still learning cb position too but he?s done well. Now don?t get wrong he?s one of my boys but he did blow a big one last night and I told him so and he agreed(he as extremely bummed about it too). Hes only gonna get better. You?re always pretty accurate with your assessments c34. Thanks for the Sunday write up!

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 11:42 AM
This is where we come to get a clear and complete game recap. Money.

I agree. Look forward to it every Sunday

dawgday166
09-24-2023, 11:52 AM
I agree with most of that Coach. I will say Decarlos had a bad night last night but he?s been our best cb. He?s been covering the other teams best wr the last couple weeks and he shutdown Arizona best and covered nabors well last week til they started moving him around and got him on our safety?s(gave up 4 catches for 23 yards las week). And he?s a sure tackler. He?s been grading out as our best db according to pff and Matt Wyatt has even highlighted his coverage skills several times. He?s not slow either he?s recorded laser timed low 4.5s. He?s still learning cb position too but he?s done well. Now don?t get wrong he?s one of my boys but he did blow a big one last night and I told him so and he agreed(he as extremely bummed about it too). Hes only gonna get better. You?re always pretty accurate with your assessments c34. Thanks for the Sunday write up!

DeCarlos did have a bad night CC and for whatever reasons, he did look pretty slow a couple of times last night too.

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 11:54 AM
DeCarlos did have a bad night CC and for whatever reasons, he did look pretty slow a couple of times last night too.

Oh yeah I agree and like I said I told him so too, lol.

ETA I do know he tweaked his ankle a little last week but he said he ain?t using that as an excuse.

Coach34
09-24-2023, 11:57 AM
DeCarlos did have a bad night CC and for whatever reasons, he did look pretty slow a couple of times last night too.

Confusion causes defenders to look slow at times. Could have been the case I guess

dawgday166
09-24-2023, 12:00 PM
Confusion causes defenders to look slow at times. Could have been the case I guess

LOL ... I know and said that a couple of weeks ago on here. But he was smoked when chasing a WR a couple of times after the catch and from directly behind too..

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 12:10 PM
LOL ... I know and said that a couple of weeks ago on here. But he was smoked when chasing a WR a couple of times after the catch and from directly behind too..

100% he didn?t have it last night obviously BUT he?s been excellent all year so I?m hoping last night was just an aberration if not he?ll be sitting the bench.

dawgday166
09-24-2023, 12:13 PM
100% he didn?t have it last night obviously BUT he?s been excellent all year so I?m hoping last night was just an aberration if not he?ll be sitting the bench.

Later in game tho, he actually had good one-on-one coverage downfield and just played the ball wrong.

I still think that the guys look not only slow, but a little heavy too. Which makes me think conditioning was softened up some this year. The whole reason I wanted to keep Arnett was he was part of the culture Leach built.

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 12:17 PM
Later in game tho, he actually had good one-on-one coverage downfield and just played the ball wrong.

I still think that the guys look not only slow, but a little heavy too. Which makes me think conditioning was softened up some this year. The whole reason I wanted to keep Arnett was he was part of the culture Leach built.

There?s definitely something going on that?s different with the defense this year. I know we lost some pieces in the secondary but it shouldn?t be this bad.

Cowbell
09-24-2023, 12:40 PM
What has happened with Jordan Davis

Tim the ToolMan
09-24-2023, 12:51 PM
What has happened with Jordan Davis

injuries and he was over rated to begin with.

parabrave
09-24-2023, 01:01 PM
2 things that WR did to improve his lot. 1st like you said he extended the field by throwing it downfield to open streaking receivers and 2nd he extended the plays by effectively rolling out either by design or in life preservation mode, which he will need next week. Now two bad things on O. 88 shouldn't see the field again and 18 you better invest in stickam or ditch the gloves because you blew at least 1 TD. And for anyone over 50 last night was more Air Coryell than Airraid.

Leroy Jenkins
09-24-2023, 01:18 PM
he did look pretty slow a couple of times last night too.

Chasing a guy that's been clocked at over 21 mph in pads will do that.

defiantdog
09-24-2023, 01:19 PM
I'm surprised Alabama only opened at -14 against us. With our defense, I thought it would be higher.

confucius say
09-24-2023, 01:29 PM
Nicholson got killed in man coverage against 17 twice. That's why he looked slow. He's fine. Was just guarding a first rounder in man with no safety over the top. That's stupid coaching, especially when your stated game plan was bend but don't break.

We have major talent issues defensively though.

Really Clark?
09-24-2023, 02:01 PM
Nicholson got killed in man coverage against 17 twice. That's why he looked slow. He's fine. Was just guarding a first rounder in man with no safety over the top. That's stupid coaching, especially when your stated game plan was bend but don't break.

We have major talent issues defensively though.

When we had safety help, it was such a bad angle that it ended up with zero help. One of the worse angles I think I've ever seen.

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 02:04 PM
When we had safety help, it was such a bad angle that it ended up with zero help. One of the worse angles I think I've ever seen.

Morant could?ve stopped that play for a short gain but as you said just a horrible horrible angle!

Really Clark?
09-24-2023, 02:17 PM
Morant could?ve stopped that play for a short gain but as you said just a horrible horrible angle!

What's really bad is he actually graded out well for the game but that play...puke

Commercecomet24
09-24-2023, 02:21 PM
What's really bad is he actually graded out well for the game but that play...puke

Yeah, Unfortunately those one plays can be huge sometimes.

confucius say
09-24-2023, 02:22 PM
What's really bad is he actually graded out well for the game but that play...puke

He played ok in the run game I thought.

Can sledge nor Gilmore play?

Really Clark?
09-24-2023, 02:40 PM
He played ok in the run game I thought.

Can sledge nor Gilmore play?

He and Banks are our best options at SS

Bothrops
09-24-2023, 05:57 PM
#4 and #21 seem to have trouble running.

TrapGame
09-24-2023, 06:44 PM
I'm disappointed C34.

You didn't name this the Rock, Paper, Scissors Edition.

Tighten up. ****

Leroy Jenkins
09-24-2023, 06:47 PM
The OC for SC was at Arkansas the last few years and they asked him about our D earlier in the week he said, "we played against their defense the last three years and we beat them every year except when KJ was out".

Coach34
09-24-2023, 07:00 PM
We run Arnett's defense and he is heavily involved in the gameplans. Blaming the DC for our D is just wrong but our fans do what they do. Just like when they blamed McCorvey- he was running exactly what Croom wanted. Same with Koenning- running exactly what Mullen wanted. Same with Jackie's OC's- running exactly what Jackie wanted.

Just like me today- I'm not running my offense- I'm running what our HC wants to run. It just has pieces of me in it

Tater
09-24-2023, 09:32 PM
We run Arnett's defense and he is heavily involved in the gameplans. Blaming the DC for our D is just wrong but our fans do what they do. Just like when they blamed McCorvey- he was running exactly what Croom wanted. Same with Koenning- running exactly what Mullen wanted. Same with Jackie's OC's- running exactly what Jackie wanted.

Just like me today- I'm not running my offense- I'm running what our HC wants to run. It just has pieces of me in it

Doesn't matter. DC will take the fall for it at the end of the year if there's no improvement. Arnett will take the fall for it at end of next year if it's two years without improvement.

Todd4State
09-25-2023, 01:19 AM
There?s definitely something going on that?s different with the defense this year. I know we lost some pieces in the secondary but it shouldn?t be this bad.

We should have brought in an experienced DC instead of promoting Dewhurst in hindsight.

I thought Brock could handle it but I was mistaken.

I have a feeling that the HC duties are distracting Arnett quite a bit and taking away from the defense some.

Jarius
09-25-2023, 11:35 AM
I'm surprised Alabama only opened at -14 against us. With our defense, I thought it would be higher.

Alabama is really really bad on offense. Ole Miss is very mediocre on defense and just kept Milroe in the pocket and he couldn't do shit. Just eventually wore them down up front.

Bothrops
09-25-2023, 10:12 PM
Alabama is really really bad on offense. Ole Miss is very mediocre on defense and just kept Milroe in the pocket and he couldn't do shit. Just eventually wore them down up front.

Problem is Bama will be playing with more confidence now. I'd be surprised if we can run or throw against them.

Jarius
09-26-2023, 12:34 PM
Problem is Bama will be playing with more confidence now. I'd be surprised if we can run or throw against them.

We will know in the very first drive of the game how it's going to go offensively. My prediction is exceptionally poorly.