Anyone remember our 3rd game under leach?

[msstate7]

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

[Pancho]

please don't offend those who choose to transition.*******

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

1) Leach had won everywhere he'd been- we had an expectation of him ultimately putting together winning teams because the history said that would happen.

2) He was taking over for JoMo who let the inmates run the asylum- we knew there would be discipline issues the new HC had to work out.

Contrast that with Arnett, who's not proven he's a good HC, and was handed a solid 9-4 team with no discipline problems.

[msstate7]

please don't offend those who choose to transition.*******

Nice

[Bothrops]

Will Rogers must transfer immediately to the Millsaps Majors for us to win any SEC games. But, we don't want to win any SEC games. Death is our bride.

[TrapGame]

This offense performs best with a QB like Mike Wright not Will Rogers. Arnett and Barbay better get a clue quick. Barbay can?t call QB keepers and a read option bc Will can?t do it. I thought Will was Tyler Russell in this offense but he?s looking more like Mike Henig.

[Turfdawg67]

Anyone remember Arnett's first 4 games as a head coach? We looked like shit in all of them. Good thing 3 of them were against weak ass teams.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

Massive difference is barbay had a complete off season


Leach was hampered by no spring and covid testing keep players out.

It's not the same and not even close

[Turfdawg67]

1) Leach had won everywhere he'd been- we had an expectation of him ultimately putting together winning teams because the history said that would happen.

2) He was taking over for JoMo who let the inmates run the asylum- we knew there would be discipline issues the new HC had to work out.

Contrast that with Arnett, who's not proven he's a good HC, and was handed a solid 9-4 team with no discipline problems.

Nicer

[Lord McBuckethead]

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

Doesn?t mean crap. If Will is our QB, I am a UGA fan, from here on out. I entered the transfer portal.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Anyone remember Arnett's first 4 games as a head coach? We looked like shit in all of them. Good thing 3 of them were against weak ass teams.


Truth

[Lord McBuckethead]

This offense performs best with a QB like Mike Wright not Will Rogers. Arnett and Barbay better get a clue quick. Barbay can?t call QB keepers and a read option bc Will can?t do it. I thought Will was Tyler Russell in this offense but he?s looking more like Mike Henig.
You do not know this. All you know is we look terrible in all games.

[Dawgface]

Doesn?t mean crap. If Will is our QB, I am a UGA fan, from here on out. I entered the transfer portal.

Still pulling for a bulldog so not all bad.

[TrapGame]

Barbay had mobile QBs. Mike Wright is a mobile QB. Will Rogers cannot run this offense because he is a liability. He is a statue in the pocket. Until I call for Barbay?s head, which I?m close, I want to see Wright run this offense for a full quarter at the very least.

[msstate7]

Doesn?t mean crap. If Will is our QB, I am a UGA fan, from here on out. I entered the transfer portal.

This seems like a good idea

[DownwardDawg]

We will be 2-3 in a couple of weeks. Hopefully we can win 6. Beat ole Miss and Kentucky and the non conference games.

[FISHDAWG]

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

Don't look now but those Gamecocks are ahead of Georgia

[msstate7]

Barbay had mobile QBs. Mike Wright is a mobile QB. Will Rogers cannot run this offense because he is a liability. He is a statue in the pocket. Until I call for Barbay?s head, which I?m close, I want to see Wright run this offense for a full quarter at the very least.

Not sure wright is the guy. I think it's gonna take a better qb than wright. We have no choice but to give him time now

[msstate7]

Don't look now but those Gamecocks are ahead of Georgia

They looked good on that drive

[TrapGame]

DD, we got a long way to go on this offense to win 6. Making a bowl game would be an achievement.

[msstate7]

DD, we got a long way to go on this offense to win 6. Making a bowl game would be an achievement.

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

[Biguglyjoe]

This offense performs best with a QB like Mike Wright not Will Rogers. Arnett and Barbay better get a clue quick. Barbay can?t call QB keepers and a read option bc Will can?t do it. I thought Will was Tyler Russell in this offense but he?s looking more like Mike Henig.

Say what you want about Henig, but he had balls. He played with plates holding his collar bone together and rebroke it. He gets my respect and Will could learn a lot from him in that regard.

[Commercecomet24]

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

Yeah I agree with this. We got work to do.

[Coursesuper]

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

What a typical missippy tate response.

[TrapGame]

Say what you want about Henig, but he had balls. He played with plates holding his collar bone together and rebroke it. He gets my respect and Will could learn a lot from him in that regard.

Mike couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and that's what I'm talking about. Tyler Russell was a decent passer but couldn't run a lick.

[TrapGame]

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

Watching our next opponent playing Georgia. We are a 6 win team.

[msstate7]

What a typical missippy tate response.

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

[TrapGame]

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

Kidney stone level pain at that.

Damn.

[Todd4State]

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

We weren't transitioning in 2020?

[Todd4State]

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

Barbay will not be here for long if this keeps up. He literally has two different styles of QB that have won in the SEC and he can't figure out how to use either one.

[msstate7]

We weren't transitioning in 2020?

Yes, that's why we scored 2. Transitions suck when you make drastic changes. Leach did much better after his initial season, and I hope arnett can do the same.

[msstate7]

Barbay will not be here for long if this keeps up. He literally has two different styles of QB that have won in the SEC and he can't figure out how to use either one.

He and arnett better get better fast. No argument

[Todd4State]

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

He was dumb to switch offenses with these players. MSU was dumb for not doing a national search.

This is a similar situation as Moorhead without the blatant lack of team discipline.

[msstate7]

He was dumb to switch offenses with these players. MSU was dumb for not doing a national search.

This is a similar situation as Moorhead without the blatant lack of team discipline.

Again, I won't argue with this either. I hated the arnett hire. Zach may be great, but I felt the hire was lazy. I thought the hire was about just maintaining continuity, but then he blew it up. Just don't understand what we were doing

[Coursesuper]

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

What is typical is that no one sees the big picture. Our fate was sealed when the NIL came into existence and we failed to get out in front of that. The attitude that we just need to suck it up and good things will come won?t cut it anymore. That ship sailed. The game has fundamentally changed and we failed to foresee the changes. We got in to late are are reaping what we sowed do to our inability to react quickly and to do as we have always done, move as slowly or as conservatively as possible. This paralysis by over analysis has serve to put our programs back further and further.

[defiantdog]

South Florida playing hard against Alabama. We never had intensity close to that today. We play like we don't care and go through the motions.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

To go along with Trap's point, please tell me where these 3 wins will come from to get to 6-6.

We went to OT with ARIZONA at home. We will not win on the road vs an SC team that recruits much better and pays its coaches more than Zona. Similarly, Kentucky will come here and us.

Western Michigan and USM are 2 wins.

So we've got to win 2 of the following: @Auburn, @Arky, @A&M, or vs an OM team that would hand 70 on our defense if we played today. Maybe we win at Auburn, but they didn't need OT to beat Cal and their HC is much better than ours. They'll improve and I'm not sure we will. Arky doesn't look good but home field and a better QB and quite possibly a better defense too say otherwise.

Can anyone say today's performance looked better than SE LA? hard to compare the competition levels but I'd say no, we didn't look like we improved from week 1.

Overall, Will overthrew screens, deep balls, out routes, and under threw some too. Was 11/28. Took unnecessary sacks. Defense was AWFUL. OL can't block. What team can you beat with a statue QB that can't throw, an OL that can't block, and a bad D? I can't predict us to beat anyone. Maybe we do get 2 SEC wins to get to 6-6 but I don't see it.

[Leroy Jenkins]

We have to change the offense, or change the QB. I don't care which one, but can't keep both.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Yes, that's why we scored 2. Transitions suck when you make drastic changes. Leach did much better after his initial season, and I hope arnett can do the same.

Again, NOT the same.

- Barbay... full spring and off season and summer.

- Leach, No spring. Not much summer. Player testing to covid... etc.


Not the same thing.

[BlackSailsDawg]

To go along with Trap's point, please tell me where these 3 wins will come from to get to 6-6.

We went to OT with ARIZONA at home. We will not win on the road vs an SC team that recruits much better and pays its coaches more than Zona. Similarly, Kentucky will come here and us.

Western Michigan and USM are 2 wins.

So we've got to win 2 of the following: @Auburn, @Arky, @A&M, or vs an OM team that would hand 70 on our defense if we played today. Maybe we win at Auburn, but they didn't need OT to beat Cal and their HC is much better than ours. They'll improve and I'm not sure we will. Arky doesn't look good but home field and a better QB and quite possibly a better defense too say otherwise.

Can anyone say today's performance looked better than SE LA? hard to compare the competition levels but I'd say no, we didn't look like we improved from week 1.

Overall, Will overthrew screens, deep balls, out routes, and under threw some too. Was 11/28. Took unnecessary sacks. Defense was AWFUL. OL can't block. What team can you beat with a statue QB that can't throw, an OL that can't block, and a bad D? I can't predict us to beat anyone. Maybe we do get 2 SEC wins to get to 6-6 but I don't see it.

we are 2-1.

We need 4 wins.

[msstate7]

Again, NOT the same.

- Barbay... full spring and off season and summer.

- Leach, No spring. Not much summer. Player testing to covid... etc.


Not the same thing.

The offenses are totally different. Yes, drastic changes take time

[BlackSailsDawg]

The offenses are totally different. Yes, drastic changes take time



No no sir. Why are you glossing over the facts that I just laid out.

Was Barbay hampered installing his system due to a virus that locked down a nation? NO

Was Barbay hampered with player testing and being forced to sit out? No.

Is Barbay hampered with players not being able to play due to testing of covid? No.


These two scenarios you put up are not the same at all.

[TrapGame]

To go along with Trap's point, please tell me where these 3 wins will come from to get to 6-6.

We went to OT with ARIZONA at home. We will not win on the road vs an SC team that recruits much better and pays its coaches more than Zona. Similarly, Kentucky will come here and us.

Western Michigan and USM are 2 wins.

So we've got to win 2 of the following: @Auburn, @Arky, @A&M, or vs an OM team that would hand 70 on our defense if we played today. Maybe we win at Auburn, but they didn't need OT to beat Cal and their HC is much better than ours. They'll improve and I'm not sure we will. Arky doesn't look good but home field and a better QB and quite possibly a better defense too say otherwise.

Can anyone say today's performance looked better than SE LA? hard to compare the competition levels but I'd say no, we didn't look like we improved from week 1.

Overall, Will overthrew screens, deep balls, out routes, and under threw some too. Was 11/28. Took unnecessary sacks. Defense was AWFUL. OL can't block. What team can you beat with a statue QB that can't throw, an OL that can't block, and a bad D? I can't predict us to beat anyone. Maybe we do get 2 SEC wins to get to 6-6 but I don't see it.

This offense and Will Rogers is like tartar sauce on cheese cake. Is Mike Wright better? I don't know. The coaches aren't playing him so he must be bad? Well then, if Mike Wright is worse than what we saw out of Will today we are soooooo screwed this season.

Winning 6 and keeping the bowl streak is going to be an achievement for these coaches.

[FISHDAWG]

They looked good on that drive

And they're still ahead

[defiantdog]

This offense and Will Rogers is like tartar sauce on cheese cake. Is Mike Wright better? I don't know. The coaches aren't playing him so he must be bad? Well then, if Mike Wright is worse than what we saw out of Will today we are soooooo screwed this season.

Winning 6 and keeping the bowl streak is going to be an achievement for these coaches.
Wright was able to scramble and get a passing TD..... I doubt Will could evade that pressure

[msstate7]

And they're still ahead

I think we got destroyed by the best team in the sec. I think lsu wins the sec

[BlackSailsDawg]

Wright was able to scramble and get a passing TD..... I doubt Will could evade that pressure

That was not a scramble that was a designed roll out against the 2s and 3s

[Bothrops]

Nick freaking Saban can't do shit without a qb. What makes people think our coaches can?

[dawgday166]

I think we got destroyed by the best team in the sec. I think lsu wins the sec

Not sure about that just yet. Kirby may have something to say about that. Gawga D is always tough.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I think we got destroyed by the best team in the sec. I think lsu wins the sec

They might be the best SEC team this year, but they aren't that good. FSU proved that. They'd be the 3rd or 4th best SEC team most years. Honestly, I'm not sure they're better than last years LSU team that we had a lead on going into the 4th

[msstate7]

Not sure about that just yet. Kirby may have something to say about that. Gawga D is always tough.

Georgia has to get better offensively. They certainly can

[TrapGame]

Wright was able to scramble and get a passing TD..... I doubt Will could evade that pressure

Because the defense had to account for Wright running the ball. It opened up space. Easy pitch and score. Will would have immediately gone into the fetal position or overthrown the receiver by a yard.

[msstate7]

They might be the best SEC team this year, but they aren't that good. FSU proved that. They'd be the 3rd or 4th best SEC team most years. Honestly, I'm not sure they're better than last years LSU team that we had a lead on going into the 4th

Not this year.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

That was not a scramble that was a designed roll out against the 2s and 3s

And Will would have been sacked vs those same 2s and 3s.

Fact is we don't know if Wright can ball. He hasn't had the chance. But we DO know Will can't. And you can't disparage Wrights passing TD without also disparaging Will even more, as Will would have been sacked.

[Bothrops]

Georgia has to get better offensively. They certainly can

Georgia's problem is no Stetson Bennett around.

[Bothrops]

And Will would have been sacked vs those same 2s and 3s.

Fact is we don't know if Wright can ball. He hasn't had the chance. But we DO know Will can't. And you can't disparage Wrights passing TD without also disparaging Will even more, as Will would have been sacked.

We know he can ball...some, he started at Vanderbilt last year.

[dawgday166]

Georgia has to get better offensively. They certainly can

You got a D like Kirby's usually is, you gonna win 11 or 12 every year. Just gotta score a few points. He'll most likely figure it out.
Now he may not win Natty, but SEC is another story.

[msstate7]

You got a D like Kirby's usually is, you gonna win 11 or 12 every year. Just gotta score a few points. He'll most likely figure it out.
Now he may not win Natty, but SEC is another story.

He can't beat lsu with this offense. Long way to go before they meet though

[dawgday166]

He can't beat lsu with this offense. Long way to go before they meet though

1st game of the year but FSU handled them. And I'll almost guarantee you Kirby's D will be better. But then FSU offense was really good too. As you say, long way to go yet.

[RockyDog]

That was not a scramble that was a designed roll out against the 2s and 3s

Are you on retainer with the Rogers family for PR? I’ve never seen someone go out of their way to continually defend a short, concrete footed trash QB like you do.

[defiantdog]

That was not a scramble that was a designed roll out against the 2s and 3s
Which Will would not have been able to roll out on.

[BlackSailsDawg]

And Will would have been sacked vs those same 2s and 3s.

Fact is we don't know if Wright can ball. He hasn't had the chance. But we DO know Will can't. And you can't disparage Wrights passing TD without also disparaging Will even more, as Will would have been sacked.

I didn't disparage his Td. And no, you don;t know that Rogers would have been sacked. He wasn't sacked by the 1s on many roll outs.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Are you on retainer with the Rogers family for PR? I’ve never seen someone go out of their way to continually defend a short, concrete footed trash QB like you do.

I'm not defending Rogers and was critical of him today. The fact is we made a stupid hire.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I didn't disparage his Td. And no, you don;t know that Rogers would have been sacked. He wasn't sacked by the 1s on many roll outs.

On that particular rollout there was a defender off the edge. Wright only got away with his speed. Yes, Will would have been sacked that play. This isn't me making a general point by saying he'd be sacked, it's just a fact of that situation

[KB21]

Barbay had mobile QBs. Mike Wright is a mobile QB. Will Rogers cannot run this offense because he is a liability. He is a statue in the pocket. Until I call for Barbay?s head, which I?m close, I want to see Wright run this offense for a full quarter at the very least.

I?m curious. Who was Barbay?s run only QB?

[dawgday166]

I?m curious. Who was Barbay?s run only QB?

I guess you got all your meltdowns over before the season. Everybody else's time to catch up now ****

[TrapGame]

I?m curious. Who was Barbay?s run only QB?

Seriously?! You know you hate Barbay but just stop. I'm not happy with him either but let's look at his offense as a whole. We are asking a Air Raid QB who was never a mobile QB to run an offensive system that REQUIRES a mobile QB to be efficient and keep defenses honest.

Right now this offense with Will is peanut butter and mustard. It doesn't go together. I'm short on Barbay too but we need to see a better QB run this offense before totally write it off.

[msstate7]

Seriously?! You know you hate Barbay but just stop. I'm not happy with him either but let's look at his offense as a whole. We are asking a Air Raid QB who was never a mobile QB to run an offensive system that REQUIRES a mobile QB to be efficient and keep defenses honest.

Right now this offense with Will is peanut butter and mustard. It doesn't go together. I'm short on Barbay too but we need to see a better QB run this offense before totally write it off.

I agree, but I feel no symphony for barbay or arnett if they stick with a square peg

[TrapGame]

I agree, but I feel no symphony for barbay or arnett if they stick with a square peg

I 100% agree. This is a part of coaching too. The coaches need to do their jobs.

[MBDawg601]

I will always love Mike Leach and what he did for the sport. National Treasure.

I have even more respect for him, putting up the offensive numbers he did with Will Rogers. It is obvious now, Will was a product of the system. Imagine if we would have had an actual QB.

[msstate7]

I 100% agree. This is a part of coaching too. The coaches need to do their jobs.

Symphony, haha

[NCDawg]

Will Rogers must transfer immediately to the Millsaps Majors for us to win any SEC games. But, we don't want to win any SEC games. Death is our bride.

I'll agree Will didn't play too well, but it's not all on him-not by a longshot. OL played poorly, DL has no push, DB's don't cover well. Tackling left a lot to be desired.

[KB21]

Seriously?! You know you hate Barbay but just stop. I'm not happy with him either but let's look at his offense as a whole. We are asking a Air Raid QB who was never a mobile QB to run an offensive system that REQUIRES a mobile QB to be efficient and keep defenses honest.

Right now this offense with Will is peanut butter and mustard. It doesn't go together. I'm short on Barbay too but we need to see a better QB run this offense before totally write it off.

Chase Brice, Daniel Richardson, and Jacob Sirmons. Those are the QBs that have run Barbay?s version of Jim McElwain?s offense the past two years. Those three combined for 36 yards rushing in this system.

Barbay?s scheme is not based on the zone read. It?s not a QB run scheme. It is based off the wide zone run scheme with a secondary drop back passing scheme. It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.

[TrapGame]

Chase Brice, Daniel Richardson, and Jacob Sirmons. Those are the QBs that have run Barbay?s version of Jim McElwain?s offense the past two years. Those three combined for 36 yards rushing in this system.

Barbay?s scheme is not based on the zone read. It?s not a QB run scheme. It is based off the wide zone run scheme with a secondary drop back passing scheme. It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.

Right now Will's struggling with the whole damn thing. And did any of those other QBs who weren't mobile just sit back in the pocket and fall into the fetal position BEFORE they were sacked?

Mike Wright at least offers another dimension to this offense that Will could never give.

[dawgday166]

Sounds to me like KB may really know what he's talking about. Not gonna research to be sure tho. If he's right then "GREAT ... Fantastic". I'm looking forward to the Barbay era ****

[SailingDawg]

I think it?s the death penalty for Will to be expected to run this offense after three years of air raid in college and also running the air raid in high school.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.

11/28 for 103 yards and 5 sacks.

[msstate7]

11/28 for 103 yards and 5 sacks.

Lol, no shit

[KB21]

Barbay can?t design the offense to fit Will?s need to be a rhythm passer. What makes you think he can call an offense that focuses on Wright?s ability to run?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Barbay can?t design the offense to fit Will?s need to be a rhythm passer. What makes you think he can call an offense that focuses on Wright?s ability to run?

Thus far, he's called 7 run plays fro Wright and 1 pass. Seems like he gets the memo on what Wright is

[KB21]

Some of you are trying to put all of this on Will when our play caller is calling blocking schemes that ask the backside guard to pull and pass protect against Harold Perkins. And you wonder why Will has pressure when he gets to the top of his drop.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Some of you are trying to put all of this on Will when our play caller is calling blocking schemes that ask the backside guard to pull and pass protect against Harold Perkins. And you wonder why Will has pressure when he gets to the top of his drop.

I don't put this on Will.

Coaches are Fing AWFUL. Defensive and offensive.

We scraped the air raid entirely when we should have just modernized it. Defense is poorly coached- looses assignments, DL regressed, awful playcalls, predictable schemes, no adjustments etc. OL coach is awful. WRs are not playing crisp or adding anything other than raw athleticism after a catch. Arnett has no idea what he's doing. We have no TE but by god we're going to play one because putting in 2RBs or a 4th WR would mean adapting to the personnel!

Put Wright in at QB, we still have a bad OL, mediocre WRs, use a useless TE, and have a mid -at best- defense. But you can beat an Auburn with that and maybe make a bowl. But don't put Wright in, and you add "passing QB that can't pass" to the list and we can't beat Auburn.

We need it ALL fixed, but changing the QB is the only solution that can be implemented immediately. The others are on coaches that we probably need to fire.

[NCDawg]

Sounds to me like KB may really know what he's talking about. Not gonna research to be sure tho. If he's right then "GREAT ... Fantastic". I'm looking forward to the Barbay era ****

I think he knows what he's talking about, also. I'm not sure we have the talent for this type offense.

[CaptainObvious]

The answer to all of these issues is coaching at Colorado! He would have cleaned house, let Will transfer, brought Shedeur, Shiloh and Hunter with him along with about 50 more Portal transfer to replace the 22 senior starters.

[BankerDog]

Georgia's problem is no Stetson Bennett around.

Remember when we almost hired Mike Bobo??

Brad P at it again!

[Really Clark?]

The answer to all of these issues is coaching at Colorado! He would have cleaned house, let Will transfer, brought Shedeur, Shiloh and Hunter with him along with about 50 more Portal transfer to replace the 22 senior starters.

He was at Colorado before Coach Leach passed away

[BuckyIsAB****]

Chase Brice, Daniel Richardson, and Jacob Sirmons. Those are the QBs that have run Barbay?s version of Jim McElwain?s offense the past two years. Those three combined for 36 yards rushing in this system.

Barbay?s scheme is not based on the zone read. It?s not a QB run scheme. It is based off the wide zone run scheme with a secondary drop back passing scheme. It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.

Ding ding ding

[BuckyIsAB****]

Remember when we almost hired Mike Bobo??

Brad P at it again!

Ding ding ding ding

[Really Clark?]

Ding ding ding ding

Ding ding ding what? That wasn't even true

[BuckyIsAB****]

Ding ding ding what? That wasn't even true

Ok. And saying Brad P didnt have his way isnt true either

[Really Clark?]

Ok

Dude I love you and your defense of Will but that was a false rumor. There was absolutely zero truth to Bobo becoming our OC.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Dude I love you and your defense of Will but that was a false rumor. There was absolutely zero truth to Bobo becoming our OC.

I wasnt referencing that as much

[MrCoachKlein]

Anyone remember Arnett's first 4 games as a head coach? We looked like shit in all of them. Good thing 3 of them were against weak ass teams.

IL may not pass the helmet test, but they were a damn good team last yr.