Game Thread: beat the corn dog edition

[EdwardDrayton]

Washington is getting schooled.

[RockyDog]

If I really wanted to I could absolutely blast this staff but im not. It?s just funny how it?s ALWAYS all on one person. Regardless of who it is

Your boy NOODLE is the problem. That screen to Tulu. GROSS

[DownwardDawg]

We have to change QB's and our offense totally to even score.

[662dawg]

Well one of them is Auburn and the other is Miami FL and they both begged him to come. He stayed because he was told we werent going to run this offense

My dude he'd be third string at both schools right now. He can't even thrown a screen pass anymore.

[BankerDog]

Washington is getting schooled.

Time to get back to recruiting ball players instead of ?stars?

[Turfdawg67]

Since Coach 34 is a fan, we won't get a silly nickname, so I've got one. Sylvester Arnett.

Oh, boy this is embarrassing. Back to Saturdays and feeling we never have a shot.

[Bothrops]

you fools wright is not the answer either - this is a non-NIL team vs a NIL team

Wright would be 10 times better than Will running or throwing

[BulldogBear]

See what happens when you get the ball to Tulu.

[msstate7]

Arnett ain't it

[BankerDog]

Your boy NOODLE is the problem. That screen to Tulu. GROSS
I?m hard on Rogers, but he ain?t the one coaching DL and DBs at moment

[Bothrops]

Our coach is lost. I hate it but it's a fact.

If he doesn't put Wright in I'll agree with that.

[mparkerfd20]

Arnett is over his head. 3 wins

[BuckyIsAB****]

Your boy NOODLE is the problem. That screen to Tulu. GROSS

Yeah throw it through that DEs hand

[magrooder]

Might as well go for it, we ain't stopping them from anywhere on the field anyway.

[Turfdawg67]

Lol! Sly Arnett just realized it was 4th down and we were on our own 32. Lolz!

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

We lost a great one with CML!

[mo7888]

Our coach is lost. I hate it but it's a fact.

Yup

[civildawg]

I've never felt so bad about our football program since the last year of croom. I like Arnett but man he's hitched his wagon to this terrible OC hire

[Statecoachingblows**]

We're at a softball tournament, doesn't sound like I'm missing much. Get to save my battery life trying to catch this. Glass half full and all.

[Bothrops]

An SEC qb would make a hell of a lot of difference

[HaggardDawg]

This Arnett experiment feels like a poor man?s Will Mushchamp hire

[msstate7]

Mullen doesn't have a job. Just saying...

[RockyDog]

Yeah throw it through that DEs hand

17 you and 17 Rogers you excuse making POS

[HancockCountyDog]

Here is what some people are missing. I don't think anyone argues that Will is a good fit for this offense. In fact, its pretty freaking terrible. The problem i have is why in the world are we running this offense when we could be running the Air Raid with some new run concepts. Instead we are putting a round peg in a square hole.

I just don't understand it.

We have 26 seniors on this year's team, this is our year. We can't waste it.

[NeuteredDawg]

Exactly what couldn't happen. We may have been holding back offensively but it doesn't matter if we roll a slow right handed QB to the left and he also can't get a pass within reach of a reciever.


An SEC qb would make a hell of a lot of difference

This

[mo7888]

I've never felt so bad about our football program since the last year of croom. I like Arnett but man he's hitched his wagon to this terrible OC hire

Exactly... he'd look better of he hadn't hitched his wagon to the guy trying to fit a square peg in a round hole...

[662dawg]

I?m hard on Rogers, but he ain?t the one coaching DL and DBs at moment

He is however the one keeping them on the field.

[dawgday166]

Mullen doesn't have a job. Just saying...

Rehires like that don't usually work. Plus he's blown his relationships even with his country club guys.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Lol! Sly Arnett just realized it was 4th down and we were on our own 32. Lolz!


Yep. This staff is made up of true freshmen!

It's like they are unproven

[Saltydog]

I admit I was wrong. Yep, I picked LSU to beat us by 21, not 40. Some of you are ridiculous. There was no way we were winning this game.

[BuckyIsAB****]

An SEC qb would make a hell of a lot of difference

That wouldnt help with sprint out called to your QBs off hand. Pass pro, always running pistol, DBs not touching WRs, the entire DL getting trashed

[msstate7]

Here is what some people are missing. I don't think anyone argues that Will is a good fit for this offense. In fact, its pretty freaking terrible. The problem i have is why in the world are we running this offense when we could be running the Air Raid with some new run concepts. Instead we are putting a round peg in a square hole.

I just don't understand it.

We have 26 seniors on this year's team, this is our year. We can't waste it.

Have you been turning the channel when our defense takes the field? This is a well rounded poor talent team

[msstate7]

Rehires like that don't usually work. Plus he's blown his relationships even with his country club guys.

Hmmm... how's North Carolina these days?

[lastmajordog]

13 plays for 12 yards....outstanding...

[Msujd164]

Dan Mullen is a free agent.

[Dawgface]

Offense averaging 1 yard per play. Woohoo.

[Activated Alpha]

We suck. Plain and simple. Will sucks, our D sucks, our coaches suck. Literally transported back to 2005 with the Croom years

[DownwardDawg]

Mullen doesn't have a job. Just saying...

Ok. I forgive him. Lol

[BlackSailsDawg]

Here is what some people are missing. I don't think anyone argues that Will is a good fit for this offense. In fact, its pretty freaking terrible. The problem i have is why in the world are we running this offense when we could be running the Air Raid with some new run concepts. Instead we are putting a round peg in a square hole.

I just don't understand it.

We have 26 seniors on this year's team, this is our year. We can't waste it.

Yep. The system is the issue and it was a waste of a vet team

[Dawgology]

I admit I was wrong. Yep, I picked LSU to beat us by 21, not 40. Some of you are ridiculous. There was no way we were winning this game.

Dude. Everyone agrees with you. But our offense has 12 ****ING YARDS!!!! That?s what everyone is upset about. Come on

[Msujd164]

We gonna let Nabers set some records today.

[msudawg1200]

We have to change QB's and our offense totally to even score.
Score? Score? Hell, I just want a 1st down

[BankerDog]

Our success started when we hired offensive minded HCs..and we chose to permanently hire a DC with no coaching contacts in the southeast. We go one step further and bring back re-treads Knox, Turner and an overrated coach in Friend and on top of that promote a grad assistant who never coached FBS ball to Safeties coach.

The only thing that makes sense at State is you need a OC as a HC who can develop QBs. Mullen, Leach etc. Not a OC from App State who beat an A&M team we did last year and have evenly for years before that.

This is disappointing with the amount of talent at WR in Zay, Creed, Robinson, Tulu, Mosley, etc and some decent backs with a senior laden OL who now look like freshmen.

[msstate7]

LSU at 7.9 yds/play

[HancockCountyDog]

Have you been turning the channel when our defense takes the field? This is a well rounded poor talent team

We've given up two TD's by putting a safety on their best WR.

Now, i'm disappointed in our DL, but i'm more disappointed in our scheme.

[civildawg]

What the hell was that defense. Just drop everyone 20 yards back?

[Maroonthirteen]

This is horrible. Offense can't execute. Soft zone coverage on defense. These coaches .......

[Msujd164]

Another 15 yard cushion on 3rd. Great job.

[Turfdawg67]

But the airbone was terrible.

[WSOPdawg]

Bulldog defensive philosophy on 3rd and long = definition of INSANITY !!!

[dawgday166]

13 plays for 12 yards....outstanding...

We were told emphatically by a world renowned poster, who shall not be named, that this offense would be significantly better than any of Leach's.

[magrooder]

Since it's 3rd and 13 I guess we'll drop 20 yards in coverage to ensure the first down

[Bothrops]

They did pretty well last year. Funny-people wanted to hire a ?recruiter? at this position in Friend, who again is an overrated recruiter, instead of a coach such as a Hevesy or Miller. And Miller could recruit too..

Agree

[RockyDog]

Bucky you can come up with any excuse you want. But u til your boy completes a pass greater than 6 yards in the air, stop blaming everybody else. Noodle couldn’t stretch the field against Starkville High.

This isn’t all on scheme. This is on a no talent noodle armed QB that had no guts to take a hit in the SEC

[civildawg]

I seriously want to drive to Starkville and go to the press conference and ask these coaches why we are dropping 20 yards back on 3rd and 8. I can't comprehend that. Go watch the replay. Our LB's literally sprinted back 15 yards as soon as the ball was snapped

[msstate7]

This is awful, but guys, lsu is really good. I still think we can compete with SC, OM, ark, and Kentucky. We can still have a decent season, and Lord willing, we find a dual threat qb this offseason

[Turfdawg67]

Let's keep them under 70 please.

[magrooder]

Let's keep them under 70 please.

I'm afraid that ain't up to us.

[msstate7]

LSU will be playing Georgia for the sec championship. We should prob keep this in mind

[Cooterpoot]

Shiiiiittt! This is as bad a coaching job as I've seen since Morehead. It's sooo damn bad it's hard to even watch.

[Bothrops]

This Arnett experiment feels like a poor man?s Will Mushchamp hire

Everything is gonna suck when your qb sucks. You see it everywhere.

[CoachT14]

Bucky you can come up with any excuse you want. But u til your boy completes a pass greater than 6 yards in the air, stop blaming everybody else. Noodle couldn’t stretch the field against Starkville High.

This isn’t all on scheme. This is on a no talent noodle armed QB that had no guts to take a hit in the SEC

Wait I just got here. Is Bucky seriously defending Will in this thread? Lol

[662dawg]

We were told emphatically by a world renowned poster, who shall not be named, that this offense would be significantly better than any of Leach's.

I think what we're actually seeing is how genius Coach Leach was. How the hell did he win 8 & 9 games with Will at QB? He may be the Greatest coach ever.

[Maverick91]

I?m hard on Rogers, but he ain?t the one coaching DL and DBs at moment

He is the one throwing dirt bombs all over the place. No need for that, I have been sketched by his accuracy and I just didn?t think it would be this bad this game.

[Bothrops]

This is awful, but guys, lsu is really good. I still think we can compete with SC, OM, ark, and Kentucky. We can still have a decent season, and Lord willing, we find a dual threat qb this offseason

Mike Wright is the best option

[msstate7]

Mike Wright is the best option

He may be, but will won't be benched. It's Will's show for better or worse

[BlackSailsDawg]

Bucky you can come up with any excuse you want. But u til your boy completes a pass greater than 6 yards in the air, stop blaming everybody else. Noodle couldn’t stretch the field against Starkville High.

This isn’t all on scheme. This is on a no talent noodle armed QB that had no guts to take a hit in the SEC

Dude, under Leach and the same qb you are trying to shit all over, we had the lead last year in the 4th quarter.

We returned and are starting 20 seniors.

This is coaching. Period.

[Turfdawg67]

LSU will be playing Georgia for the sec championship. We should prob keep this in mind

They played UGA in the SECC last year and we had this team beat in Baton Rouge. What's changed? Hmmm

[dawgday166]

LSU will be playing Georgia for the sec championship. We should prob keep this in mind

Yea ... I never understood the bashing everyone gave them after FSU. Sure they wore down, but before they did there was some serious speed and physicality on display by both teams.

[magrooder]

D finally made a play

[msstate7]

A dline sack! Hell yeah

[HancockCountyDog]

Great play by Crumedy.

We need more of it. Offense can't go three and out here.

[bobtail bob]

Defense might as well just wait on the field because the offense won’t be out there two minutes

[Turfdawg67]

I'm afraid that ain't up to us.

I was praying to a higher being.

[ScoobaDawg]

Defense made some changes. Showing some life

Unlike the offense...

Gonna be a long year with will...

[msstate7]

They played UGA in the SECC last year and we had this team beat in Baton Rouge. What's changed? Hmmm

They've gotten much much better. Do you really think this is the same lsu team we beat?

[magrooder]

I was praying to a higher being.

I understand completely.

[civildawg]

You have to bench Will. Tom Brady would be benched if he had 0 yards of offense in a half

[Bothrops]

Will is showing you he doesn't belong here. He's showing you!

[HancockCountyDog]

The OL play is just awful.

I expect a lot more from 5 seniors.

[DownwardDawg]

My God. We are terrible.

[dawgday166]

I think what we're actually seeing is how genius Coach Leach was. How the hell did he win 8 & 9 games with Will at QB? He may be the Greatest coach ever.

I know. Will is Leach's worst Air Raid QB except maybe in percentage.

Ever notice how on 3rd an 8 or so Will almost never throws it past the sticks. He worried about 2 things IMO ... Getting hit and completion percentage.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bucky you can come up with any excuse you want. But u til your boy completes a pass greater than 6 yards in the air, stop blaming everybody else. Noodle couldn’t stretch the field against Starkville High.

This isn’t all on scheme. This is on a no talent noodle armed QB that had no guts to take a hit in the SEC

You have absolutely no clue

[Turfdawg67]

They've gotten much much better. Do you really think this is the same lsu team we beat?

FSU beat the breaks off this team and are in a dogfight with BC at the moment.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Ol is getting slaughtered.

[NCDawg]

15 plays for 7 total yards. Probably not too good.

[ScooterDog]

It?s not all Rogers. Why are lsu receivers wide open? Where is the coverage?

[ScoobaDawg]

Defense might as well just wait on the field because the offense won’t be out there two minutes

This is sadly too true

[bobtail bob]

24-0 coming up. Defense is burnt out.

[BlackSailsDawg]

This is all piss poor coaching

[662dawg]

We have got to have a QB with at least the mobility of Tom Brady. This ain't gonna work.

[msstate7]

The OL play is just awful.

I expect a lot more from 5 seniors.

They're still adjusting to new system, and they're facing a great dline. Hopefully they'll look better in a few weeks

[magrooder]

Wide open over the middle and no throw with tons of pressure. Absolutely no part of this team is playing up to SEC standards.

[Bdawg]

Well, got a timeout to comment. We are completely over matched. Both lines are trash right now. If lines are getting killed, the game is over. NIL has reared its ugly head. Guess it was just a matter of time. It’s almost in Will’s head now. Let just try something different.

[DownwardDawg]

Today has taken me back to the Croom years, where I pray for a defensive score or a punt return.

[civildawg]

So here come the excuses that LSU is some great team. They are good but we are making them look like the Kansas City chiefs

[RocketDawg]

16 plays for 7 yards. Average 0.43 yards/play .... put another way, just under 16 inches per play.

[bulldawg28]

I think what we're actually seeing is how genius Coach Leach was. How the hell did he win 8 & 9 games with Will at QB? He may be the Greatest coach ever.

Agreed.

[lastmajordog]

This reminds me of Jackie?s last game against LSU. I was on LSU sideline and their stud receiver was laughing talking about the open area for a crossing route.

[Dawgology]

You have absolutely no clue

7 offensive yards now. Your boy is 3-11 with -14 sack yards. This is 100% on Barbay and Arnett…for putting him out there in the first place.

[BulldogBear]

This feels like a night game in Tiger Stadium against LSU team that will end up in the playoffs...but it's not.

Defense is ok....not like we hoped, but they are not the problem. In some ways they can't help that LSUnhas played a nearly perfect game on both sides of the ball both in the field and the coaches.

This hole we are in is on offense with 7 total yards in 16 plays. That you McCorvey?

[ScoobaDawg]

You have absolutely no clue

Bucky. I'm sorry man. Will can't hit the barn today...

[Saltydog]

Will gives us no chance against teams with any semblance of a rush. Yeah, Wright can't throw, yada, yada but neither can Will in this offense. At least Wright could scramble and extend plays and pick up a few yards with his feet.

[BankerDog]

The OL play is just awful.

I expect a lot more from 5 seniors.

Will Friend ladies and gentlemen

[DownwardDawg]

This is coaching and game planning.

[LC Dawg]

At 6:09 of the 2nd quarter we have 3 less yards than Grambling had points against LSU. That's on every ****ing player and coach on the offensive side. The OC and the QB are both horrible.

[magrooder]

We might want to start covering that Malik guy.

[BlackSailsDawg]

They're still adjusting to new system, and they're facing a great dline. Hopefully they'll look better in a few weeks

Then we should not have changed system's with a vet team.

No matter how it is sliced, this is week 3 of players on offense not being put in a position to win

[Msujd164]

This may go down as the WORST offensive performance in our history by the end of the day. This shows how great Leach was.

[DownwardDawg]

This feels like a night game in Tiger Stadium against LSU team that will end up in the playoffs...but it's not.

Defense is ok....not like we hoped, but they are not the problem. In some ways they can't help that LSUnhas played a nearly perfect game on both sides of the ball both in the field and the coaches.

This hole we are in is on offense with 7 total yards in 16 plays. That you McCorvey?

The defense is not ok. We haven't played anyone until today.

[BulldogBear]

If I was BK....every play call would just be a backyard hike he ball go long to Nabers.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Great plan on defense isn't it

[parabrave]

Dam I miss Henig.

[EdwardDrayton]

Unfortunately the concerns we had the first two weeks turned out to be valid.

[Tater]

.

[CadaverDawg]

Just quit at halftime and spare us the embarrassment. Looks like I'll get a lot of hunting in this year. We are trash. Trash HC, Trash OC, and very very bad QB

[ScoobaDawg]

I'm getting drunk. This is gonna be a long second half

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bucky. I'm sorry man. Will can't hit the barn today...

Oh I agree he has been bad. The whole team the whole staff the whole program

[CadaverDawg]

Thought we were "just not showing anything until LSU"? Arnett looks like the guy that nobody knows who he is

[Tater]

Just run triple option this kid isn't built for football anymore. We should be down 28-0.

[msstate7]

Then we should not have changed system's with a vet team.

No matter how it is sliced, this is week 3 of players on offense not being put in a position to win

We hired arnett, who wants a different style of offense. If you hire a guy, you let him do it his way.

As far as the defense, Forbes is the difference. Forbes locking down nabers makes a huge difference

[RockyDog]

300+ yards to 7. If Selmon had a sack he would fire this garbage today. All of em. An interim staff can’t do any worse

[DawgFromOxford]

Can?t have a 25 point comeback win if you don?t give up 24 points first ***

[Bothrops]

Dam I miss Henig.

Yes. He's an upgrade right now

[BlackSailsDawg]

Will gives us no chance against teams with any semblance of a rush. Yeah, Wright can't throw, yada, yada but neither can Will in this offense. At least Wright could scramble and extend plays and pick up a few yards with his feet.

Yet had the lead going in the 4th quarter with this same defense and the AR.

Are you telling me that these coaches are great and a 9 win team is all of the sudden just sucks?


It's been 3 games of piss poor planing.

CNt teach blocking.

Wrs and tes running horrible routes.

Have no idea how to run the ball today.

[Leroy Jenkins]

We're saving the good plays for the 2nd half.

[Turfdawg67]

Just quit at halftime and spare us the embarrassment. Looks like I'll get a lot of hunting in this year. We are trash. Trash HC, Trash OC, and very very bad QB

You said the same thing about Leach's offense. Boy, I'd love to see that again.

[chef dixon]

I won't pile on the D. They have to play the entire game

[CadaverDawg]

This reminds me of the end of the Sherrill era. We looked slow, receivers running wide open, games over by half. Just need Korey Banks to commit a few personal fouls after getting lit up and we'll be right back to the cellar. I can't believe we look THIS bad. Bad is one thing....this is 2-10 bad

[Really Clark?]

Coach, it's time to change. Playbook opened up but now pressure them to execute something resembling a series. This ain't it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Same ones raising hell now were the same ones that Hated Leach. Funny how that works. We didnt need to totally scrap our offense we needed to add to it. P and Co made sure that didnt happen

[Maverick91]

This feels like a night game in Tiger Stadium against LSU team that will end up in the playoffs...but it's not.

Defense is ok....not like we hoped, but they are not the problem. In some ways they can't help that LSUnhas played a nearly perfect game on both sides of the ball both in the field and the coaches.

This hole we are in is on offense with 7 total yards in 16 plays. That you McCorvey?

Agreed! I am absolutely beside myself. My neighbors should feel like of ky house has changed. I don’t know how that stadium still has life. At this point I would try Mike just to see about giving you a spark.

[Cooterpoot]

We've got a staff so far over their heads I'm surprised they can suck air.

[BankerDog]

I miss the ?air bone?.

Maybe next you idiots who think you know ball will listen to guys who know a little bit. Drew Hollingshead is laughing at all of y?all right now. As is Mason Miller.

And Jason Washington? Get him back there coaching safeties at half time. Dewhurst is an idiot.

[Turfdawg67]

I'm getting drunk. This is gonna be a long second half

Yeah, looks like Jean's boys were right. In hindsight, maybe we should've just canceled the game like you joked about yesterday.

[Bothrops]

300+ yards to 7. If Selmon had a sack he would fire this garbage today. All of em. An interim staff can’t do any worse

It's amazing how bad things can get when your qb sucks

[Dawgology]

300+ yards to 7. If Selmon had a sack he would fire this garbage today. All of em. An interim staff can’t do any worse

It’s a hot take but if this happens 4-5 more times this season we should be playing with a new head coach and staff next season. I don’t care if it’s a “new offensive scheme” there’s no excuse for 7 yards of offense. What a freaking joke.

[mo7888]

Dude, under Leach and the same qb you are trying to shit all over, we had the lead last year in the 4th quarter.

We returned and are starting 20 seniors.

This is coaching. Period.

Facts

[BlackSailsDawg]

We hired arnett, who wants a different style of offense. If you hire a guy, you let him do it his way.

As far as the defense, Forbes is the difference. Forbes locking down nabers makes a huge difference

No no. This is the game plan of the defense . Period.

This sucks and its on coaching.

This team looks lost on both sides of the ball

[lastmajordog]

What is what is killing.....om offense willl make LSU defense win the ballgame.....sick

[NCDawg]

Daniels and Nabers. We're pretty good about making opposing players Heisman trophy candidates.

[CaptainObvious]

Just be glad we don?t play a SWAC team this year. This would be the first SEC team to lose to a SWAC team!

Past records don?t mean crap. Our offense cannot keep our defense off the field and that is the bottom line.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I knew this was coming after watching that Arizona game. We had some major luck winning that as Arizona is clearly a much better team. I?m really not sure we can win any SEC games with this offense. Will Friend and Barbay were terrible hires and today it is clearly showing

[Bothrops]

We've got a staff so far over their heads I'm surprised they can suck air.

It's amazing how bad things can get when your qb sucks.

[msstate7]

Didn't we lose nabers?

[HancockCountyDog]

Grambling averaged 5.6 ypc.

I'm not willing to accept that this LSU defense is some type of dominant force.

[BulldogBear]

First half BB take:

Offense: You gotta give Wright a shot. It can't get any worse. I don't care about Will's confidence or feelings. Sometimes you worry about that. Sometimes you don't. This is not the former. Sometimes a guy needs to sit.

Defense: Who gives a shit if we burned in man coverage at this point. Daniel's CANNOT under any circumstances be allowed 8 seconds. We've gotta rush 6 every play. Theybmay just kill us another way then, but it's the only way to stop the current video game shit.

[Apoplectic]

a great football team would bring in the bench qb and win the 2nd half. we?ll roll over and try to kill the clock

[662dawg]

This is coaching and game planning.

If you wanna blame them for keeping Will in the game, ok. But if the QB can't even complete short screen passes, there's not much you can do.

[civildawg]

It’s a hot take but if this happens 4-5 more times this season we should be playing with a new head coach and staff next season. I don’t care if it’s a “new offensive scheme” there’s no excuse for 7 yards of offense. What a freaking joke.

Agreed. 7 yards of offense in a half is a fireable offense no matter the circumstances

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Just quit at halftime and spare us the embarrassment. Looks like I'll get a lot of hunting in this year. We are trash. Trash HC, Trash OC, and very very bad QB

I wonder how Matt Wyatt and the MSU media blame the fanbase for this loss. Will it be lack of NIL, attendance, lack of football knowledge?

[Maverick91]

For all of you saying these cheap comment “I thought we were holding stuff.” We are a very different offense play calling wise, what we didn’t count on is Will throwing dirt bombs.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We've got a staff so far over their heads I'm surprised they can suck air.

That's a fact. They are horrible collectively

[Cooterpoot]

It's amazing how bad things can get when your qb sucks.

It's not just the QB. Defense is a damn joke. Scheme on offense is too. Just garbage.

[msstate7]

Catch the effin ball

[BulldogBear]

OMG Harmon

[dawgday166]

What an awesome handoff by Will on the run by Marks ****

[magrooder]

Sit down 81.

[parabrave]

Dam Harmon

[msstate7]

Hate that TO. Perkins was outside, and now they will have him coming

[Bothrops]

Sit down 81.

He was well defended.

[Matt3467]

Kick the fg

[BankerDog]

Thought we were "just not showing anything until LSU"? Arnett looks like the guy that nobody knows who he is

Bet you feel like an idiot wanting that offensive staff gone.

[msstate7]

Will made a f'n play

[parabrave]

TD Tulu'

[magrooder]

Rogers stood in there that time and Tulu with the score.

[RocketDawg]

We're back!

[DownwardDawg]

We scored!!!!

[BulldogBear]

All right!!

Now, don't let them score again before half because it's coming to Nabers.

[HancockCountyDog]

Needed that right before the half.

We have to keep them from getting points here, and come out and get a score and see what happens.

[bobtail bob]

Grambling averaged 5.6 ypc.

I'm not willing to accept that this LSU defense is some type of dominant force.

It's not and they have no depth the gameplan should have been keep them on the field as much as possible early and have it pay off. LSU gameplan was load up against the run and make Will beat them.

They had backups in that drive

[Apoplectic]

Tulu audition is lit today!!!! get that bag baw!!

[msstate7]

That drive gives me hope. Loved the counter. Love jet sweeps. He called a great screen earlier that we jacked up

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will made a f'n play

Hes had to throw it all game as soon as his back foot as hit the ground. His WRs have ran wrong routes twice. Yes he has missed but he is not our only issue

[DownwardDawg]

Our O line isn't giving Will any protection at all.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Same ones raising hell now were the same ones that Hated Leach. Funny how that works. We didnt need to totally scrap our offense we needed to add to it. P and Co made sure that didnt happen

I didn't hate on Leach. I wanted him to modernize the run game a but but I thought he was a good coach.

[Cooterpoot]

Hes had to throw it all game as soon as his back foot as hit the ground. His WRs have ran wrong routes twice. Yes he has missed but he is not our only issue

It's been bad everywhere.

[Bothrops]

Bbbbbbbut coaching

[Dawgology]

I’ll give it to Will on that 4th down play. He stayed in and delivered it for the 1st. That’s the dynamic that he needs to show

[BulldogBear]

I do have to give Will props for making that 4th down throw and not just wilting like a flower. He's got to find that determination every down.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Without the Air Raid concept that the OC finally called, we don't score.

[Cooterpoot]

Our O line isn't giving Will any protection at all.

Stop trotting out Cam Jones at RT would be a start. Get away fro TE sets too because they can't block my grandma or catch a cold. They're worthless.

[ScoobaDawg]

Good drive to finish the half.

[msstate7]

Hes had to throw it all game as soon as his back foot as hit the ground. His WRs have ran wrong routes twice. Yes he has missed but he is not our only issue

He had the td dropped couple plays before. He did miss on what woulda been a big screen earlier. He and the whole offense has had a rough half, but nice drive to build on. His 4th down pass is the most I've been impressed with him in a while... that was all heart

[msstate7]

Without the Air Raid concept that the OC finally called, we don't score.

Love that air raid counter run of 50

[BuckyIsAB****]

Stop trotting out Cam Jones at RT would be a start. Get away fro TE sets too because they can't block my grandma or catch a cold. They're worthless.

We made a decision to go to an offense that has to have one when we didnt have one on the entire roster

[BlackSailsDawg]

Stop trotting out Cam Jones at RT would be a start. Get away fro TE sets too because they can't block my grandma or catch a cold. They're worthless.

That's right. When you don't have TEs why the hell would we.

[CadaverDawg]

Same ones raising hell now were the same ones that Hated Leach. Funny how that works. We didnt need to totally scrap our offense we needed to add to it. P and Co made sure that didnt happen

Why do we have to have either of the shitty offenses? Just bc Barbay's sucks doesn't make Leach's any better....it Sucked too

[BankerDog]

Hes had to throw it all game as soon as his back foot as hit the ground. His WRs have ran wrong routes twice. Yes he has missed but he is not our only issue

Routes being ran wrong?! But wasn?t Bumphis a helluva WR coach?

[Bothrops]

Our O line isn't giving Will any protection at all.

Will made two plays in the first half. A nice pass to Harmon which was broken up and a last split second pass to Tulu for a critical first down. I guess he's fine now***

[CadaverDawg]

Bet you feel like an idiot wanting that offensive staff gone.

Nope. Leach's sucked too

[BlackSailsDawg]

Love that air raid counter run of 50


Yep.

[BankerDog]

Why do we have to have either of the shitty offenses? Just bc Barbay's sucks doesn't make Leach's any better....it Sucked too

It won games dumbass

[BuckyIsAB****]

Why do we have to have either of the shitty offenses? Just bc Barbay's sucks doesn't make Leach's any better....it Sucked too

Agree. Add a little bit to Leach offense are we are in business. But there is to much ego and to much sense in that

[BulldogBear]

Why do we have to have either of the shitty offenses? Just bc Barbay's sucks doesn't make Leach's any better....it Sucked too

Unfortunately have to agree here

[dawgday166]

Why do we have to have either of the shitty offenses? Just bc Barbay's sucks doesn't make Leach's any better....it Sucked too

There's a common denominator.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Will did make a nice play I'll give that to him, and he made a nice throw to the EZ that hit the receivers chest.

Ultimately, though, he's 5/14 for 33 yards and was sacked 3 times for -17 yards. Would wright have a lower comp %? Would Wright have -17 rush yards?

Bucky is correct we have MUCH bigger problems than Will. Our entire coaching staff is failing and its hard to imagine the HC that orchestrated this being the answer long term.

BUT, when it comes to QB, can anyone honestly look at Wills stats and say Wright would be worse? Yes you can say the OL is a bigger problem, receivers cant run routes etc and that's correct. But when it comes to QB specifically, can you honestly say Wright would have had a worse half?

[CadaverDawg]

Hilarious that people are using today as a way to pump Leach's offense. Who is the skinniest kid at fat camp? Both of those offenses are garbage. We deserve better than this AND Leach's

[BlackSailsDawg]

Why do we have to have either of the shitty offenses? Just bc Barbay's sucks doesn't make Leach's any better....it Sucked too

9 wins and a program growing. Period. This will never attract top talent.

You may have wanted more running like we all did, but that still won 9 games and these almost exact same teams last played and we had the lead in the 4th

[ScoobaDawg]

My fault guys...

I was picking up some breakfast burritos from the local gas station. Chorizo and egg. Steak and egg. With a Mexican coke.

I turned the corner to a "frazil" frozen ice machine.
I saw it.

Tigers blood....
I knew I needed this. Plus some overproof rum. To make this game good


I just pulled the drink out of the freezer and we scored...

[civildawg]

Hilarious that people are using today as a way to pump Leach's offense. Who is the skinniest kid at fat camp? Both of those offenses are garbage. We deserve better than this AND Leach's

Ding ding ding

[bobtail bob]

It's almost like LSU knew what plays we were calling for all but the last drive.

I will say what I said last week. What the hell are we trying to do ? There is no identity or anything trying to built to hang our hat on.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Btw... nice to see Zavion in the game and making plays

[msstate7]

2nd half goals...
1. Have 200 yards of offense
2. Put safety help on nabers

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will did make a nice play I'll give that to him, and he made a nice throw to the EZ that hit the receivers chest.

Ultimately, though, he's 5/14 for 33 yards and was sacked 3 times for -17 yards. Would wright have a lower comp %? Would Wright have -17 rush yards?

Bucky is correct we have MUCH bigger problems than Will. Our entire coaching staff is failing and its hard to imagine the HC that orchestrated this being the answer long term.

BUT, when it comes to QB, can anyone honestly look at Wills stats and say Wright would be worse? Yes you can say the OL is a bigger problem, receivers cant run routes etc and that's correct. But when it comes to QB specifically, can you honestly say Wright would have had a worse half?

Wright would see 8-9 man boxes and would get hurt. He weighs 180 pounds

[CadaverDawg]

It won games dumbass

Our defense won games, dumbass. Look at the stats. We were last in everything with Leach, except attempts

[parabrave]

Anyone remember the 1973 ND USC Game? It can be done. We just need Anthony Davis

[Cooterpoot]

2nd half goals...
1. Have 200 yards of offense
2. Put safety help on nabers

Safety is who was on him. We tried to cover with a safety. It was stupid!

[TopDawg]

Without the Air Raid concept that the OC finally called, we don't score.

I don't think the OC called that play.

[RockyDog]

Agree. Add a little bit to Leach offense are we are in business. But there is to much ego and to much sense in that

Your boy struggled to complete a 10 yard pass in Leach’s system too. Call me crazy but id just rather have a real QB. Not some joke with an elementary school arm

[Turfdawg67]

Leach won 9 games with this same shitty team. Lolz, but you keep on.

[chef dixon]

Not all Wills fault, but you have to have a guy that can make something out of chicken shit every once in a while. Especially at a place like state. We are literally the only school I can think of off hand that doesn't have that at all

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Leaches air raid, Lincoln Reileys air raid, Barbays offense, ******* offense, the tripple option....

None of it Fing matters if our entire team is playing below their talent level. It's the HC. I"m sorry, but it is. Maybe he figures it out before the end of year 3 (earliest we can fire him) but there is not an offense in the world that would work with this level of coaching installing it. And conversely, there's not an offense in the world that wouldn't look better than this if it was well coached.

That's what Leach had going for him. He ensured the team was well coached. That's the foundation this team is missing

[BlackSailsDawg]

Our defense won games, dumbass. Look at the stats. We were last in everything with Leach, except attempts

Bs!! Try winning without the offense scoring points

Btw... the defense ain't winning this one and almost lost the one last year.

[dawgday166]

Our defense won games, dumbass. Look at the stats. We were last in everything with Leach, except attempts

I'm 2021, back when Will was not so nervous, Prediction Pain has posted and proven that offense analytically beat all of Mullen's offenses except 2014.

But ... whatever. We'll never know how it will have worked out long term now. I do know that on it's worst day it was better than this.

[msstate7]

Food for thought... leach's adjustment to the air raid in year 1 was anything but seamless. We had some games where we were straight up pathetic. The adjustment leaving the air raid won't be seamless either, but I do think our recruiting foot print fits this style better. Hopefully arnett and barbay can figure it out

[BlackSailsDawg]

Leaches air raid, Lincoln Reileys air raid, Barbays offense, ******* offense, the tripple option....

None of it Fing matters if our entire team is playing below their talent level. It's the HC. I"m sorry, but it is. Maybe he figures it out before the end of year 3 (earliest we can fire him) but there is not an offense in the world that would work with this level of coaching installing it. And conversely, there's not an offense in the world that wouldn't look better than this if it was well coached.

That's what Leach had going for him. He ensured the team was well coached. That's the foundation this team is missing


Fact. It's coaching. If you can not install your offense and see what is working and game plan, that's nit the team.

That's coaching

[Offshore Dawg]

Needed that right before the half.

We have to keep them from getting points here, and come out and get a score and see what happens.
Dawgs don't get the ball to start the second half.

[Cooterpoot]

Leach won 9 games with this same shitty team. Lolz, but you keep on.

We replaced a lot of starting defense this year.

[Really Clark?]

We have to make changes to the OL. Even if the other RT's don't know the playbook as well, they are talented. Move RT to guard and Loysa to center for at least the 3rd quarter to see if we can operate. Mike is seeing an entire series or 2 as well for me.

[Coursesuper]

Hilarious that people are using today as a way to pump Leach's offense. Who is the skinniest kid at fat camp? Both of those offenses are garbage. We deserve better than this AND Leach's

Deserve, um, bullshit. We deserve everything we pay for in todays game. We are slow and not exactly imaginative with anything we do . What you are seeing is us reaping the rewards of exactly what we have payed for and being slow to adapt to the changing landscape that is D1 football. This is really no that hard to figure out.

[DownwardDawg]

Will made two plays in the first half. A nice pass to Harmon which was broken up and a last split second pass to Tulu for a critical first down. I guess he's fine now***

Not sure I understand your point. Will is terrible today but I see the asterisks.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Wright would see 8-9 man boxes and would get hurt. He weighs 180 pounds

LOL he played hundreds of snaps in the SEC last year

And you avoided the question. Can you look at Wills 5/17 for 33 yard passing performance and -17 rush yards and honestly say Wright wouldn't have had better numbers?

[BlackSailsDawg]

Food for thought... leach's adjustment to the air raid in year 1 was anything but seamless. We had some games where we were straight up pathetic. The adjustment leaving the air raid won't be seamless either, but I do think our recruiting foot print fits this style better. Hopefully arnett and barbay can figure it out


An air raid concept will attract qbs and wrs. This will not. At all. We betterbhave deep pockets to buy them!

[msstate7]

An air raid concept will attract qbs and wrs. This will not. At all. We betterbhave deep pockets to buy them!

Tell me about all the great qbs and WRs we've been getting

[Cooterpoot]

We had all spring and summer to learn the offense. We can't block it, we run wrong routes, bad throws, one receiver on the field that is taking away a WR spot. Defense is playing 15 yards off and trying to cover Nabors with a safety a lot. No pass rush at all. We're are a bad football team.

[NCDawg]

I look at the Auburn game 2 years ago how we were down 18 points and came back to win with Rogers passing in Leach's offense. Don't see a similar situation in this offense.

[CadaverDawg]

An air raid concept will attract qbs and wrs. This will not. At all. We betterbhave deep pockets to buy them!

Yeah, it attracted a bunch of guys that couldn't beat out this Millsaps backup we have starting.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We replaced a lot of starting defense this year.

The group we returned a lot of (front 6) is what's really sucking. That and the schemes/playcalls. Like the front is getting blown back for 8 yard runs up the guy and getting ZERO pressure. DBs are being put in bad spots due to covering for long times, being told to give 10 yard cushions, and having safeties cover Nabors. That's not their fault.

Seriously though, the DL is terribly coached. They have ZERO moves. Not a bull rush, swim move, twist, no hands, etc. They just get beat every play.

[DownwardDawg]

LOL he played hundreds of snaps in the SEC last year

And you avoided the question. Can you look at Wills 5/17 for 33 yard passing performance and -17 rush yards and honestly say Wright wouldn't have had better numbers?

The fact that our coaches have watched every snap that Wright has taken and have decided that Will gives us the best chance to win, tells me all I need to know about Wright as a starter.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

The fact that our coaches have watched every snap that Wright has taken and have decided that Will gives us the best chance to win, tells me all I need to know about Wright as a starter.

You trust THIS coaching staff???

[Cooterpoot]

The group we returned a lot of (front 6) is what's really sucking. That and the schemes/playcalls. Like the front is getting blown back for 8 yard runs up the guy and getting ZERO pressure. DBs are being put in bad spots due to covering for long times, being told to give 10 yard cushions, and having safeties cover Nabors. That's not their fault.

Seriously though, the DL is terribly coached. They have ZERO moves. Not a bull rush, swim move, twist, no hands, etc. They just get beat every play.

We've recruited poorly on both lines. A ton of soft OL were signed. Several are gone already. Coaches refuse to put best players on the field too. Bell is better than Cam.

[dawgday166]

Yeah, it attracted a bunch of guys that couldn't beat out this Millsaps backup we have starting.

Can't argue this one. Historically Leach wasn't recruiting the top tier folks at either position, other than Crabtree.

He was a do more with less coach, which is also Dan Mullen. We need another one of those now. But I will add ... Mullen made damn sure to get the top Dlinemen in the state.

[parabrave]

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

[CadaverDawg]

Can't argue this one. Historically Leach wasn't recruiting the top tier folks at either position, other than Crabtree.

He was a do more with less coach, which is also Dan Mullen. We need another one of those now. But I will add ... Mullen made damn sure to get the top Dlinemen in the state.

Agree

[bulldawg28]

Will is trash. 1 play doesn't dispell it. He goes to the top of his drop and stands there. He never steps into the pocket which gives any edge rusher an easy sack. Most of the sacks are his fault. He never throws the ball away and always a sitting duck.

[Bothrops]

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

It really did. We don't have anybody with instincts in the secondary.

[msstate7]

If you flipped daniels and will, this game is closer

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

Again, if our only issue was lack of pass rush and a CB getting burned I'd agree.

But we look awful everywhere, and the playcalling makes no sense. We have bigger problems than JUST lack of talent

[DownwardDawg]

You trust THIS coaching staff???

Lol. Great point. And no.....

[CadaverDawg]

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

Until we have someone at the most important position on the field that can be a threat....none of the losses anywhere else on the field matter. It starts and ends with the QB. Yes we have to stop people, but today we could have the 85 Bears D and it wouldn't matter bc our QB is immobile, low confidence, weak arm, and often poor decision making. But it's hard to put it all on him, when a lot of the blame goes on the coaches that keep running him out there to fail

[dawgday166]

If you flipped daniels and will, this game is closer

I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

[Bothrops]

If you flipped daniels and will, this game is closer

It'd be tied in the worst of cases.

[parabrave]

And Arnett wins his argument.

[bulldawg28]

The fact that our coaches have watched every snap that Wright has taken and have decided that Will gives us the best chance to win, tells me all I need to know about Wright as a starter.

These same coaches put Wright in for sparks when we needed them earlier. I guess making positive plays is no go for this offense.

[msstate7]

I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

Idk, they're still more talented. Having a good qb is such an equalizer though. We gotta find a dual guy

[Apoplectic]

refs trying to sell some Dr Pepper - we just so 5hitty

[chef dixon]

That was definitely a play on the ball

[CadaverDawg]

I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

Yep. Flip the score. Facing a QB like Will Rogers is a DC's dream. Just stop the run and bring pressure. He isn't escaping, and he won't beat you deep. Worst case scenario you give up an 8 yd comeback route and you tee off again next play

Everyone acting like Arizona's D was soooo much better. Watch. They suck. The season will show it

[Apoplectic]

That was definitely a play on the ball

doesn?t matter - you can go thru the receiver