Willy Windup throws 7 yards downfield

[Tater]

Incomplete.

[Tater]

Bucky. This looks nothing like the spring game.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Wins another game. Breaks more records. Lives in some heads rent free while he would bleed for the school

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Wins another game. Breaks more records. Lives in some heads rent free while he would bleed for the school

We don't want him to bleed, we want him to stay calm in the pocket. But he's too scared of getting hit. Looked scared even vs SE LA

[EdwardDrayton]

Yeah. 297 rushing yards, 39 plays. 227 passing yards, 29 plays (20-29). Our rushing yards per play was the same as our passing per play. I'll just leave that there.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Yeah. 297 rushing yards, 39 plays. 227 passing yards, 29 plays (20-29). Our rushing yards per play was the same as our passing per play. I'll just leave that there.

1/3rd of our rushing yards came on Wrights 5 rushes. Our only pass over 20 yards was on a blown coverage

[EdwardDrayton]

1/3rd of our rushing yards came on Wrights 5 rushes. Our only pass over 20 yards was on a blown coverage

I'd take the bet we would average more overall yards per play (passing and rushing) with Mike at QB.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'd take the bet we would average more overall yards per play (passing and rushing) with Mike at QB.

I?ll take that bet. Too bad we may never find out because Will is going to start here till God or him decides he aint

[dawgday166]

I?ll take that bet. Too bad we may never find out because Will is going to start here till God or him decides he aint

Tru dat however ... I'd give anything for Dak or Fitz right now.

[MrCoachKlein]

Bashing Will is a bad look. I might could be persuaded that Wright should start, but that doesnt matter at all. Will has given his all for this school. It's a senior team that he has led for going on 4 years now. Hop on board or just shut the 17 up for 1 more year.

How does berating a top 3 (maybe 5) qb in all of our history help anything?

[dawgday166]

Bashing Will is a bad look. I might could be persuaded that Wright should start, but that doesnt matter at all. Will has given his all for this school. It's a senior team that he has led for going on 4 years now. Hop on board or just shut the 17 up for 1 more year.

How does berating a top 3 (maybe 5) qb in all of our history help anything?

It doesn't.

But bashing the receivers and Oline and saying it's all their fault all the time ain't great either. Especially if it ain't always their fault.

And as an aside ... Last year is was Leach's and the Air Raid's fault. Will might go into the HOF ... dunno. But Leach most certainly will.

I watched a lot of last year's games, rewinding them and such. There were open receivers downfield quite often.

[MaroonFlounder]

The Will we saw today gives us very little chance to win vs most SEC teams.

[preachermatt83]

Wright can run this offense better. Period

[MrCoachKlein]

It doesn't.

But bashing the receivers and Oline and saying it's all their fault all the time ain't great either. Especially if it ain't always their fault.

And as an aside ... Last year is was Leach's and the Air Raid's fault. Will might go into the HOF ... dunno. But Leach most certainly will.

I watched a lot of last year's games, rewinding them and such. There were open receivers downfield quite often.

Will is what he is. We don't have a better option (Wright can't throw). I'm OK with bashing any coach whether it's their fault or not, buck stops with them. They're grown men. Will and the rest of the team are still basically kids. You know this stuff gets back to them one way or another.

[EdwardDrayton]

Bashing Will is a bad look. I might could be persuaded that Wright should start, but that doesnt matter at all. Will has given his all for this school. It's a senior team that he has led for going on 4 years now. Hop on board or just shut the 17 up for 1 more year.

How does berating a top 3 (maybe 5) qb in all of our history help anything?

Sorry Coach. Can't stick with you on this one. We don't do participation trophies anymore. College football is a business now and loyalty without performance has no place. If there is a chance Mike Wright gives us a higher probability to win, then he's the guy and thank you Will for all you've done.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Will is what he is. We don't have a better option (Wright can't throw). I'm OK with bashing any coach whether it's their fault or not, buck stops with them. They're grown men. Will and the rest of the team are still basically kids. You know this stuff gets back to them one way or another.

When I was a fifth year senior I would have knocked someone on their ass if they called me a "kid" at 22 years old.

[HancockCountyDog]

Id respect buckys opinion more if he just came out and said this offense is not good for Will. It?s clearly not a great fit.

He probably is the best choice as starter, but im way more concerned about him in this offense.

[MrCoachKlein]

Sorry Coach. Can't stick with you on this one. We don't do participation trophies anymore. College football is a business now and loyalty without performance has no place. If there is a chance Mike Wright gives us a higher probability to win, then he's the guy and thank you Will for all you've done.

I'm not going for a butch 'champions of life' trophy or anything. I just don't think wright running for 2 big gains and throwing 0 passes against a tire FCS team with half of the backups in qualifies him to replace a top 5 qb in MSU history.

Parsons and the recent 4* qb are guys with wheels. They'll be old next time we have a senior heavy squad and they can run.

With what we have now we need to get will comfortable. Its the only path to 9-10 wins (counting a bowl).

[HancockCountyDog]

Will is what he is. We don't have a better option (Wright can't throw). I'm OK with bashing any coach whether it's their fault or not, buck stops with them. They're grown men. Will and the rest of the team are still basically kids. You know this stuff gets back to them one way or another.

Most of these kids are getting paid.

[BulldogDX55]

Wright can run this offense better. Period

What were his passing stats on the day again?

[dawgday166]

Will is what he is. We don't have a better option (Wright can't throw). I'm OK with bashing any coach whether it's their fault or not, buck stops with them. They're grown men. Will and the rest of the team are still basically kids. You know this stuff gets back to them one way or another.

Didn't stop the world from bashing Fitz his senior year and he had REALLY bled for us. He had owned TAM, owned OM, had smoked LSU once, and took Bama to the mat better than any QB we've had since Mullen became coach. He was a helluva warrior.

He had a LOT more adversity his senior year too. A RB that wouldn't block LBs and receivers that dropped everything all the time. And a coach that not only sucked but let him take all the blame too.

Bucky always blames the receivers but outside of Fred Ross, the receivers that Will has been blessed with are far superior than any that ever played with Fitz.

Will's a good kid. Doesn't mean he's a tough enough SEC QB tho.

ETA: And I'm not one saying Wright should start either.

[EdwardDrayton]

I'm not going for a butch 'champions of life' trophy or anything. I just don't think wright running for 2 big gains and throwing 0 passes against a tire FCS team with half of the backups in qualifies him to replace a top 5 qb in MSU history.

Parsons and the recent 4* qb are guys with wheels. They'll be old next time we have a senior heavy squad and they can run.

With what we have now we need to get will comfortable. Its the only path to 9-10 wins (counting a bowl).

I hear ya'. Personally don't think there's a path for us to 9-10 wins no matter what we do. And to be clear, is Mike the guy to take the reins. Not sure. But there's enough evidence to further test the notion with more playing time.

[MrCoachKlein]

Didn't stop the world from bashing Fitz his senior year and he had REALLY bled for us. He had owned TAM, owned OM, had smoked LSU once, and took Bama to the mat better than any QB we've had since Mullen became coach. He was a helluva warrior.

He had a LOT more adversity his senior year too. A RB that wouldn't block LBs and receivers that dropped everything all the time. And a coach that not only sucked but let him take all the blame too.

Bucky always blames the receivers but outside of Fred Ross, the receivers that Will has been blessed with are far superior than any that ever played with Fitz.

Will's a good kid. Doesn't mean he's a tough enough SEC QB tho.

ETA: And I'm not one saying Wright should start either.

Fitz deserved none of it. Even my die hard reb dad loved him.

Fitz showed up to some Archie qb congratulation thing a week or 2 after they ripped his leg off. That man is pure class.

[dawgday166]

Fitz deserved none of it. Even my die hard reb dad loved him.

Fitz showed up to some Archie qb congratulation thing a week or 2 after they ripped his leg off. That man is pure class.

Tru all dat.

Fitz is my fav QB, even over Dak. If you go back and watch them, he actually played pretty good in the KY and FL games his senior year. Even while getting killed by Allen at KY all night long cause Hill wouldn't even get in Allen's way. Guidry dropping passes, against FL Guidry and Osirus dropping passes, etc. Fitz was a tough dude and class act. Mullen f***ed him.

[EdwardDrayton]

Fitz deserved none of it. Even my die hard reb dad loved him.

Fitz showed up to some Archie qb congratulation thing a week or 2 after they ripped his leg off. That man is pure class.

I submit the most evil low-life deliberate severe-injury-causing hit in college football history. I don't think I can ever forgive them for that. GTHOM!!!

[MrCoachKlein]

Tru all dat.

Fitz is my fav QB, even over Dak. If you go back and watch them, he actually played pretty good in the KY and FL games his senior year. Even while getting killed by Allen at KY all night long cause Hill wouldn't even get in Allen's way. Guidry dropping passes, against FL Guidry and Osirus dropping passes, etc. Fitz was a tough dude and class act. Mullen f***ed him.

I'm with you. He might be my all time favorite dawg

[MrCoachKlein]

I submit the most evil low-life deliberate severe-injury-causing hit in college football history. I don't think I can ever forgive them for that. GTHOM!!!

Yeah...that was so dirty. Surprised goodell didn't fine them

[BuckyIsAB****]

Didn't stop the world from bashing Fitz his senior year and he had REALLY bled for us. He had owned TAM, owned OM, had smoked LSU once, and took Bama to the mat better than any QB we've had since Mullen became coach. He was a helluva warrior.

He had a LOT more adversity his senior year too. A RB that wouldn't block LBs and receivers that dropped everything all the time. And a coach that not only sucked but let him take all the blame too.

Bucky always blames the receivers but outside of Fred Ross, the receivers that Will has been blessed with are far superior than any that ever played with Fitz.

Will's a good kid. Doesn't mean he's a tough enough SEC QB tho.

ETA: And I'm not one saying Wright should start either.

Our outside WRs last year were absolutely the reason we struggled more than not. The proof is in the pudding. Ask the coaches, how many times did they throw the OLs chairs? How many times did they call them out post game? How many of our outside WRs are still on the team? Ill rest my case

[dawgday166]

Our outside WRs last year were absolutely the reason we struggled more than not. The proof is in the pudding. Ask the coaches, how many times did they throw the OLs chairs? How many times did they call them out post game? How many of our outside WRs are still on the team? Ill rest my case

In the later third of the season probably so. They were probably lazy in route running cause they tired of running down field hard, getting open, only to turn their head after the break and Will has dumped it off 2 seconds ago. Earlier in the season their were open downfield receivers many times Will dumped it off.

[BuckyIsAB****]

In the later third of the season probably so. They were probably lazy in route running cause they tired of running down field hard, getting open, only to turn their head after the break and Will has dumped it off 2 seconds ago. Earlier in the season there were open downfield receivers many times Will dumped it off.

Yeah im sure it had nothing to do with getting physically punked

[dawgday166]

Yeah im sure it had nothing to do with getting physically punked

Look ... I'm not gonna argue with you all day. Will had a four game stretch in '21 where he looked awesome and moved well in the pocket to avoid the rush. He impressed the hell out of me in the Arky loss in that stretch. I bragged on FB about how good he was when he brought us back against AU. He even looked pretty good in OM loss and if not for dropped passes in the rain, we probably win that.

But last year while he had a couple of pretty good games (Arky & TAM) he wasn't the same Will as year before. Not sure why. Maybe cause Charles Cross was gone ... I dunno. Go watch him stay in the called running plays on 4th and 1 against LSU when they had a stacked box he should've checked out of and thrown a pass. He did that twice in that game. My feeling at time was it was because he knew he'd get hit even if he completed the pass.

Doesn't matter tho ... you'll defend him even if he consistently throws 3 picks every game. You don't have an objective bone in your body when it comes to Will's play.

[BulldogBear]

I'm only saying this because of some things I heard a few weeks ago.

Has anyone considered that we may be approaching this season similar to 2014? We are going to do what it takes to beat SeLa and UAZ(z). We are the same ol' Mittippi Tate and therefore LSU will be completely shell shocked when they're the first to find out what we can actually do. Just throwing that out there.

I'm neither a Rogers fan nor a detractors. We will know when LSU is sent back to Tigerland wondering WT17 just happened to them.......or not, in which case we'll also know what we can(t) do.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Look ... I'm not gonna argue with you all day. Will had a four game stretch in '21 where he looked awesome and moved well in the pocket to avoid the rush. He impressed the hell out of me in the Arky loss in that stretch. I bragged on FB about how good he was when he brought us back against AU. He even looked pretty good in OM loss and if not for dropped passes in the rain, we probably win that.

But last year while he had a couple of pretty good games (Arky & TAM) he wasn't the same Will as year before. Not sure why. Maybe cause Charles Cross was gone ... I dunno. Go watch him stay in the called running plays on 4th and 1 against LSU when they had a stacked box he should've checked out of and thrown a pass. He did that twice in that game. My feeling at time was it was because he knew he'd get hit even if he completed the pass.

Doesn't matter tho ... you'll defend him even if he consistently throws 3 picks every game. You don't have an objective bone in your body when it comes to Will's play.

Or maybe it was because his head coach chewed his ass over changing plays. Or maybe it was there was 92,000 people there and changing the play is a lot easier to do on elitedawgs than in front of them.

[dawgday166]

Or maybe it was because his head coach chewed his ass over changing plays. Or maybe it was there was 92,000 people there and changing the play is a lot easier to do on elitedawgs than in front of them.

Whatever Bucky. I know it's never on Will whatever happens. Always a reason that has nothing to do with Will.

[BuckyIsAB****]

And if you think for one second I wasnt cussing him when he fumbled vs OM or when he ran out of bounds on a 4th down against them you are wrong. I was cussing MSU QBs when we couldnt complete a forward pass, which is miles away from what we have with Will

[BuckyIsAB****]

Whatever Bucky. I know it's never on Will whatever happens. Always a reason that has nothing to do with Will.

Read my next post

[Todd4State]

I'm only saying this because of some things I heard a few weeks ago.

Has anyone considered that we may be approaching this season similar to 2014? We are going to do what it takes to beat SeLa and UAZ(z). We are the same ol' Mittippi Tate and therefore LSU will be completely shell shocked when they're the first to find out what we can actually do. Just throwing that out there.

I'm neither a Rogers fan nor a detractors. We will know when LSU is sent back to Tigerland wondering WT17 just happened to them.......or not, in which case we'll also know what we can(t) do.

I don't understand doing that. I also don't remember us doing that with USM, UAB, and South Alabama. This is a new offense so we need to get it down instead of "holding stuff back". Especially with the way the offensive line looked.

[Tater]

Wins another game. Breaks more records. Lives in some heads rent free while he would bleed for the school

Yea I drunkenly posted emotionally on here (and realized I needed to put my phone down.)

But I stand by my comment based on how bad he was looking. First game jitters. But that first half MSU goes 3-9 this year. We can't have that. 4-0 start is very doable and we need to do it. Second half MSU was a 7-5/8-4 team. But we didn't show what I know he can physically do. At this point it feels like a mental thing. I'd rather him try to be Tyler Russell statue esque if he's gonna suck this bad at throwing on the run. That's not his game and he needs to play to his strengths.

He needs to watch Dan Marino film on pocket mobility. That's how he should be avoid defenders. Stepping into throws. We'll see if he can unlock the 12 win version of this team that the talent is absolutely there for.

[Todd4State]

Yea I drunkenly posted emotionally on here (and realized I needed to put my phone down.)

But I stand by my comment based on how bad he was looking. First game jitters. But that first half MSU goes 3-9 this year. We can't have that. 4-0 start is very doable and we need to do it. Second half MSU was a 7-5/8-4 team. But we didn't show what I know he can physically do. At this point it feels like a mental thing. I'd rather him try to be Tyler Russell statue esque if he's gonna suck this bad at throwing on the run. That's not his game and he needs to play to his strengths.

He needs to watch Dan Marino film on pocket mobility. That's how he should be avoid defenders. Stepping into throws. We'll see if he can unlock the 12 win version of this team that the talent is absolutely there for.

I really thought we would at least TRY more passes down the field. I'm confused by that. Honestly, we tried as many or more with Leach here in a game. Especially with Barbay focusing on throwing deep shots allegedly. I think I counted four last night and we only completed one- the TD pass to Creed.

I think throwing a few more would help Will out honestly. Otherwise defenses are going to cheat up and dare us to pass deep.

Asking Will to roll left and throw on the run would be difficult for any RH QB. We did it twice. Also don't understand that.

Then we ran the ball like almost every first down. People like Saban are going to figure that out pretty quickly. We better start at least showing some variety with our play calling or it's going to get pretty predictable pretty quickly. Even SELU stuffed it by the second quarter. We kept getting behind the sticks because of it. Then we had to dink and dunk just to get another first down.

I think we also need to stop using Goede as much. Our five best playmakers are Tulu, Robinson, Zavion, Creed, and Marks. If we use a TE I'd rather it be Harmon based on what I saw last night. Those six guys need to be the guys we're using the most and rotate in Walley, Mosley, and Roberson. It's not what he "wants to" do but if he's really serious about playing our best guys it's what he should do. Having two TE's with this group is a waste because they're extra blockers essentially and it just forces us to take two weapons off of the field. Unless it's Harmon of course. And yes, we should use Wright some as well of course.

[Hot Rock]

When I was a fifth year senior I would have knocked someone on their ass if they called me a "kid" at 22 years old.

That?s further proof you were a kid. A man doesn’t hit people for stuff like that. A kid is still trying to prove something to himself. A man knows what he can do and is not offended so easily.

[Really Clark?]

I've seen some mention Will rolling to his left, obviously a harder throw but one of his best throws Sat was a rollout to his left throwing back with good enough zip on the ball and accuracy to get a first down. That was a fine throw.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I hear ya'. Personally don't think there's a path for us to 9-10 wins no matter what we do. And to be clear, is Mike the guy to take the reins. Not sure. But there's enough evidence to further test the notion with more playing time.

No there is not. He was tested feom the minute he got on campus.

[AROB44]

Ah....The eternal fascination with the backup QB....

[R2Dawg]

Didn't stop the world from bashing Fitz his senior year and he had REALLY bled for us. He had owned TAM, owned OM, had smoked LSU once, and took Bama to the mat better than any QB we've had since Mullen became coach. He was a helluva warrior.

He had a LOT more adversity his senior year too. A RB that wouldn't block LBs and receivers that dropped everything all the time. And a coach that not only sucked but let him take all the blame too.

Bucky always blames the receivers but outside of Fred Ross, the receivers that Will has been blessed with are far superior than any that ever played with Fitz.

Will's a good kid. Doesn't mean he's a tough enough SEC QB tho.

ETA: And I'm not one saying Wright should start either.

Yep no one is immune to evaluating performance. Fitz was true maroon. Fitz battled like no one.

Will is Will. Not best fit for this O but we'll have to ride him rest of year. Wright must see the field and be used as the weapon he is. Coaches realize that and did so and have said so. Now what form that takes, we'll see what develops.

[RisperDawg]

Ah....The eternal fascination with the backup QB....

Fr. Lol. I still think Sawyer Robertson is the answer. Braedyn Locke if not, surely.

[RockyDog]

Yea I drunkenly posted emotionally on here (and realized I needed to put my phone down.)

But I stand by my comment based on how bad he was looking. First game jitters. But that first half MSU goes 3-9 this year. We can't have that. 4-0 start is very doable and we need to do it. Second half MSU was a 7-5/8-4 team. But we didn't show what I know he can physically do. At this point it feels like a mental thing. I'd rather him try to be Tyler Russell statue esque if he's gonna suck this bad at throwing on the run. That's not his game and he needs to play to his strengths.

He needs to watch Dan Marino film on pocket mobility. That's how he should be avoid defenders. Stepping into throws. We'll see if he can unlock the 12 win version of this team that the talent is absolutely there for.

a 4-0 start is doable but not likely. That's a tall ask for ANY MSU team when the opponent is LSU and then your first road game of the year against a comparable SEC team.

We will know more Saturday night after taking on a quality opponent, but that team that showed up in the first half does not compete with LSU. Don't care how bad they looked against FSU. Jayden Daniels has the wheels to get to the outside which SELA did repeatedly, and if we get no push from the DL, Nabers is going to eat up our secondary.

We still have to worry about DeLaura first. Bad things can always happen when you go against a very mobile QB.

[Goldendawg]

I just want us to win and Will to make some fantastic plays in some wins to remove that play from the OM game that is still seared in my brain where he turned and ran toward the OM goal line to prevent his being sacked. I still wonder how many yards he would have run if they haven't tackled him. Wrong Way Jim Marshall?*****