Some of you were skeptical of Rev Freezus recruiting now

[Coach34]

https://twitter.com/on3sports/status/1685410651147993088?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw

He?ll be just fine and probably better than ever

[DownwardDawg]

Yeah. I've never been skeptical of his recruiting. If he's getting the money, he'll buy a great team. I'm EXTREMELY skeptical of his coaching abilities.

[Skydawg1]

Freezus's best play call..."go deep, get open".

[Coach34]

I'm EXTREMELY skeptical of his coaching abilities.

Why? He took over a loser program and went 39-25 in 6 seasons with a Sugar Bowl. He beat Bama twice. His offenses were very good. His teams did lack defensively and defensive talent.

[MetEdDawg]

I have a lot of Auburn friends (and my dad) that swore off Auburn football if they hired Freeze. You know Auburn fans and their holier than though morals.

Can't wait to see how they walk it back and buy back into the program and how they excuse what they previously said was a non negotiable for them.

[DownwardDawg]

Why? He took over a loser program and went 39-25 in 6 seasons with a Sugar Bowl. He beat Bama twice. His offenses were very good. His teams did lack defensively and defensive talent.

You're smarter at football than me, so you have to know that 1 of those Bama wins was the flukiest game of all time. The other win was 100% on Lane Kiffin. Bama was gashing ole miss D for 5-7 yards per rush but Kiffin could not help himself. He insisted on throwing the ball. I was yelling at the TV for Saban to fire him mid game. They kept ole miss in the game by not running it down their throats.
Freeze had the most talented team that money could buy and he still couldn't win the West.
I just don't think he's a good coach. I could have the most talented team and win 10 games.

[TrapGame]

I can see Freeze's downfall at Auburn if he let's the inmates run the asylum. The discipline issues were becoming a problem for him at ole miss just before he was fired.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

With NIL players can buy their own hookers.

[Coach34]

I can see Freeze's downfall at Auburn if he let's the inmates run the asylum. The discipline issues were becoming a problem for him at ole miss just before he was fired.

This is what I see as his possible downfall

[Lord McBuckethead]

Freezus's best play call..."go deep, get open".

He beat Bama.

[RisperDawg]

This is what I see as his possible downfall

That or confronting a rape victim about the validity of their claim (that doesn't even involve him and he could have easily stayed out of) in written format. What a wacko. Undoubtedly, he will be his own downfall. His handlers can only be present for so much. If he does start to trend downward and the boosters want to cut bait, he will make "for cause" easy for them. Lol.

[Reason2succeed]

He?s a slightly above average coach that has no problem breaking rules to get elite players to play for him. He fit at Ole Miss and fits at Auburn like a glove.

[KOdawg1]

He?s a slightly above average coach that has no problem breaking rules to get elite players to play for him. He fit at Ole Miss and fits at Auburn like a glove.

I disagree with the slightly above average part.

Freeze is a heck of an offensive coach. The dude is gonna have a good offense pretty much every year. And he's gonna recruit well.

The only thing that has held him back is that he's a slime ball for a human being. But if he can somewhat manage all of that, he's gonna do well.

[Dawgface]

It?s almost impossible to get in trouble anymore so there is no reason he shouldn?t do well if AU has the cash. Now if he gets caught grabbing secretaries by the butt or they file suit then his time could be short.

[DownwardDawg]

He?s a slightly above average coach that has no problem breaking rules to get elite players to play for him. He fit at Ole Miss and fits at Auburn like a glove.

Agree 100%.

[confucius say]

Freeze signed 2 top 10 classes over a 3 year period at OM and averaged 7.2-4.8. He had two 9-3 seasons but also a 5-7 before any of the probation issues. Solid, not great considering the talent. Dan averaged 7.1-4.9 without anything close to a top 10 class, if you believe in recruiting rankings.

He will flip a program and build it, but he has never shown the maturity to maintain it. Maybe that's changed now that he's older.

[confucius say]

He beat Bama.

So did Chizik

[Goldendawg]

I have a lot of Auburn friends (and my dad) that swore off Auburn football if they hired Freeze. You know Auburn fans and their holier than though morals.

Can't wait to see how they walk it back and buy back into the program and how they excuse what they previously said was a non negotiable for them.

My border county of MS is run over with MS people with bama stickers on their cars and the AL country adjacent to us is very heavily bama. There is one older, inactive deacon in our church who is all Auburn his entire life. We have a meet and greet before the sermon and we always talk a few minutes about State & AU. He had difficulty trying to justify the hiring of Rev Freeze shortly after the hire. Last Sunday was even worse. He was worried about his RB getting to play after being involved in the sex tape. He said,"You do know this was an Alabama set up." I told him I couldn't buy that and went to greet others. Wow! Fans are indeed short for fanatics. I expect the RB to soon be ruled eligible and if they have a good year, hear that OM set up Freeze! Hail State!

[CaptainObvious]

Auburn was consistently a Top 12 recruiting class program from 2009 to 2021. In 22, they had the 30th ranked class, their worst since 2004 when they were also ranked 30th. Freeze rolls in with a 20 Ranking in year 1. With HI$ Recruiting $KILL$$ he will get them in the low TEEN$ this coming CLA$$ and then in the Top 10 after that.

[Matt3467]

Why? He took over a loser program and went 39-25 in 6 seasons with a Sugar Bowl. He beat Bama twice. His offenses were very good. His teams did lack defensively and defensive talent.

Very nearly beat Bama 3 years in a row. Once can be a fluke, twice not as likely, but dang near 3 times in a row? Anyone saying Freeze is an average coach is just biased.

[viverlibre]

The other win was 100% on Lane Kiffin. Bama was gashing ole miss D for 5-7 yards per rush but Kiffin could not help himself. He insisted on throwing the ball.

100% the INT by OM that ended that game was a very poorly thrown ball by Blake Sims (?), on that drive the OM defense had given up and Bama was destroying them on the ground. It would have been an easy walk-in for a TD.

[DownwardDawg]

So did Chizik

So did Croom.

[DownwardDawg]

Very nearly beat Bama 3 years in a row. Once can be a fluke, twice not as likely, but dang near 3 times in a row? Anyone saying Freeze is an average coach is just biased.

Or we use our heads and look at the big picture.

Hugh freeze had an advantage over all the teams he was coaching against and still didn't win big. He was throwing money and buying prostitutes for recruits and still couldn't win the West. Look at the big picture. Mullen did as well or better than Freeze with classes ranked in the 30's.

He'll be 7-5 to 9-3 at Auburn because the boosters will spend the money. He'll beat Saban a time or two because saban is getting old and it's easy to see he's lost some fire. It's Kirby's time to rule now.

[DownwardDawg]

100% the INT by OM that ended that game was a very poorly thrown ball by Blake Sims (?), on that drive the OM defense had given up and Bama was destroying them on the ground. It would have been an easy walk-in for a TD.

Bama could have ran the ball every snap in the 2nd half and that game would have been a blowout win for Bama. These smart multi millionaire coaches surprise me all the time.

[CaptainObvious]

Very nearly beat Bama 3 years in a row. Once can be a fluke, twice not as likely, but dang near 3 times in a row? Anyone saying Freeze is an average coach is wearing Maroon Colored Glasses and just biased.

Fixed it for you.

[Dawgology]

Hookers and blow are effective recruiting tools

[bigbub50]

Offensively he is way above average. His ole miss teams were a handful on offense. At Liberty he changed his offensive philosophy a bit (probably catering to his roster skill set), showing he could evolve, and had a qb at a no name school go in the first round of the draft. Guy can absolutely motivate, recruit, and coach offense. I know I will get flamed for this, but I put him on the same level as Kiffin on the offensive side.

He needs a great defensive coordinator that he leaves alone.

He has character issues that could catch up with him and they probably will eventually. He is great at getting talent to listen, but loses leverage because he probably promises them the world and then as others have said ?the inmates then run the asylum?.

It?s going to be difficult for them to win big this year because the roster is depleated and no clear qb talent. This will change in a cpl years as he recruits and they will likly be a handful for a couple years but it will self implode somehow. This is my guess.

[parabrave]

You're smarter at football than me, so you have to know that 1 of those Bama wins was the flukiest game of all time. The other win was 100% on Lane Kiffin. Bama was gashing ole miss D for 5-7 yards per rush but Kiffin could not help himself. He insisted on throwing the ball. I was yelling at the TV for Saban to fire him mid game. They kept ole miss in the game by not running it down their throats.
Freeze had the most talented team that money could buy and he still couldn't win the West.
I just don't think he's a good coach. I could have the most talented team and win 10 games.

And the other game was about 5 turnovers on your own 20 yard line. And yes Kiffe lost the 1st one. Bama running down their throat and on the ten yardline about to go up 21 and Kiffen gets the biggest case of dumbshititis ever and starts to pass.

[Coach34]

And the other game was about 5 turnovers on your own 20 yard line. And yes Kiffe lost the 1st one. Bama running down their throat and on the ten yardline about to go up 21 and Kiffen gets the biggest case of dumbshititis ever and starts to pass.

You guys can make excuses- but the fact remains it happened. And we all know its going to happen again. He's a good offensive coach.

[Cowbell]

Some of you need to take your maroon-colored glasses off. Freeze is a problem for defenses. He has a rare ability to expose defensive weaknesses and then make needed adjustments to take advantage of those weaknesses, even with average talent and especially in-game. He is a better offensive coach than we have probably ever had. He adjusts to his players talent and adjusts to the defenses he faces. And I don't like guy personally.

Also. I've tried telling all of you this before. As much bad rap as Hugh gets, he was the scapegoat. If he was literally the one making the calls to hookers, he would never be a HC again. The NCAA had him but didn't nail him - why? Why did Jimbo go get Bjork when he wanted to utilize the $$$ A&M has? One of these days this will all unravel and it will most likely hit the Aggies the most..."you ride with outlaws, you die with outlaws"...

[Cowbell]

You guys can make excuses- but the fact remains it happened. And we all know it's going to happen again. He's a good offensive coach.
This board is gonna melt the first time he hangs 40 on us

[RockyDog]

Some of you need to take your maroon-colored glasses off. Freeze is a problem for defenses. He has a rare ability to expose defensive weaknesses and then make needed adjustments to take advantage of those weaknesses, even with average talent and especially in-game. He is a better offensive coach than we have probably ever had. He adjusts to his players talent and adjusts to the defenses he faces. And I don't like guy personally.

Also. I've tried telling all of you this before. As much bad rap as Hugh gets, he was the scapegoat. If he was literally the one making the calls to hookers, he would never be a HC again. The NCAA had him but didn't nail him - why? Why did Jimbo go get Bjork when he wanted to utilize the $$$ A&M has? One of these days this will all unravel and it will most likely hit the Aggies the most..."you ride with outlaws, you die with outlaws"...

Yep. Lots of maroon glasses on this thread. The other thing that Freeze did and to a bit lesser extent Matt Luke, was they motivated the shit out of their players at OM using bulletin board material and whatever else. Just about every Egg Bowl they were ready to chew nails and they punched us in the mouth especially those games where hunchback Dan had already checked out.

For that reason alone I’m glad they are both gone from the Plantation. Lane is more like Dan in that he gives off that I don’t give a crap attitude.

[DownwardDawg]

This board is gonna melt the first time he hangs 40 on us

Many auburn coaches have and will hang 40 on us.

[confucius say]

Who is better, lane or freeze?

[confucius say]

Many auburn coaches have and will hang 40 on us.

Exactly. The idea that Hugh is going to do something Malzahn didn't do, either to us or overall, is weird. He will have some big wins and some what the heck losses, just like he had at liberty and OM.

[MaroonFlounder]

Freeze offense will move the ball and score TDS.

Not sure how the defense will do. Talent alone should save him there.

Does he still use the Christian angle in his recruiting pitch?

[Tripp McNeely]

Who is better, lane or freeze?

Oh gosh Freeze...and I don't think it's even close

[Pancho]

Freeze offense will move the ball and score TDS.

Not sure how the defense will do. Talent alone should save him there.

Does he still use the Christian angle in his recruiting pitch?

yes, he's drooling it everywhere/ woe is me

[DownwardDawg]

Who is better, lane or freeze?

I would say Freeze. Lane running the Bama offense is the only reason Freeze beat Alabama. If you want to argue that point, then all you have to do is go back and rewatch the games. Bama could have ran the ball every play and eaten the clock and absolutely destroyed ole miss. But Lane couldn't let that happen. He got pass happy and and kept ole miss alive in high game. It was so frustrating to watch because a 10 year old could see what was happening. It was so obvious.

[confucius say]

I would have said freeze 6 years ago.
Now I say lane.

Freeze had a D1 bounce back first rounder playing qb who was the most talented player every time they took the field and still had several inexplicable losses. Most offenses have caught up to freeze imo. He is still good though.

[bigbub50]

Freeze had an accurate qb who could run plus 3 nfl wideouts at ole miss at one point. They were nearly unstoppable for a year or two. Plus he ran hurry up when not everyone was doing it.

At Liberty he had the qb but not really anything else. He was still solid statistically.

Can?t say Lane at Bama is Lane now. Lane was good then but is in a new stratosphere now. If I?m not mistaken, Lane at Bama wasn?t in hurry up 24/7, but he was still great there at getting mis matches with his 5 star wr of the year and running double move routes for east td?s.

Now, Lane has this hurry up misdirection run game at Ole Miss that is elite, plus he still calls the double move mis matches and when he has an accurate qb, he has one of the best offenses going right now. I?d put Huepel and UT up there with him. Lane was breaking in a first year starter at qb and below average talent at WR last year.

Freeze has not had elite talent to play with in several years so it?s hard to compare.

Don?t sleep on freeze though, he will score lots once he gets the talent back to par at Auburn.

If I had to choose today, I would take Lane. 8 years ago, definitely Freeze.

[bigbub50]

Also, Lane at Bama was probably held back at Bama from doing what he really wanted to do by Saban. And I don?t blame Saban here. When you have the talent advantage, no need to be as exotic and revolutionary.

[Matt3467]

Or we use our heads and look at the big picture.

Hugh freeze had an advantage over all the teams he was coaching against and still didn't win big. He was throwing money and buying prostitutes for recruits and still couldn't win the West. Look at the big picture. Mullen did as well or better than Freeze with classes ranked in the 30's.

He'll be 7-5 to 9-3 at Auburn because the boosters will spend the money. He'll beat Saban a time or two because saban is getting old and it's easy to see he's lost some fire. It's Kirby's time to rule now.

As much as I love Mullen we can look at records all day long but he never could get us over the Bama hump. Heck in 9 years we were only really competitive in maybe one game and the rest we didn't just lose we were rolled. Ever since Mullen Bama has psychologically whipped me into submission so much so that it's the only game on our schedule I don't care to watch.

[Bothrops]

Freeze is going to take Auburn where they want to be.

[Captain Falcon]

Anyone that beats Bama and goes to an NY6 bowl with Bo Wallace at QB and basically no running game whatsoever is a good coach.

He is definitely going to be an improvement over Harsin, I personally expect something similar to what Malzahn did. Beats Bama and gets to Atlanta a time or two, is ultimately undone years down the road by head scratching losses. People remember the Bama wins but forget that he also lost to mediocre Arkansas teams both of those years and lost to Memphis in one of them.

[TrapGame]

Anyone that beats Bama and goes to an NY6 bowl with Bo Wallace at QB and basically no running game whatsoever is a good coach.

He is definitely going to be an improvement over Harsin, I personally expect something similar to what Malzahn did. Beats Bama and gets to Atlanta a time or two, is ultimately undone years down the road by head scratching losses. People remember the Bama wins but forget that he also lost to mediocre Arkansas teams both of those years and lost to Memphis in one of them.

That's why I think Freeze rolls over Lane like a steam roller but they play like shit vs us. This is Freeze's MO his entire coaching career.

[PMDawg]

This thread is fun. We have some people who, when he was at Ole Miss, said not to worry about the recruiting b/c he couldn't coach now saying he's Vince Lombardi reincarnated. And we have some who said he was a great coach back then now saying he's not that great. I remember when people were making fun of his WRs showing up at the combine or for NFL training camp not even knowing basic route trees.

I don't know what he'll be at Auburn. I'm not happy he's there. I think he'll be better than the end of the Gus era and better than whatever it was they did the last couple of years. I also know he's a scumbag human and controversy follows him wherever he goes. He'll recruit well, his twitter account will be taken away, he'll win more than he loses. Whatever. We need to get good enough that it doesn't matter to us.

[Johnson85]

This thread is fun. We have some people who, when he was at Ole Miss, said not to worry about the recruiting b/c he couldn't coach now saying he's Vince Lombardi reincarnated. And we have some who said he was a great coach back then now saying he's not that great. I remember when people were making fun of his WRs showing up at the combine or for NFL training camp not even knowing basic route trees.

I don't know what he'll be at Auburn. I'm not happy he's there. I think he'll be better than the end of the Gus era and better than whatever it was they did the last couple of years. I also know he's a scumbag human and controversy follows him wherever he goes. He'll recruit well, his twitter account will be taken away, he'll win more than he loses. Whatever. We need to get good enough that it doesn't matter to us.

He did look like a great coach for a little while. Like most coaches, he has a ceiling and it's below Saban's. I think he and Lane are very similar. Good on offense and sometimes sacrifice defense, but with the right defensive coordinator certainly can have a top defense. Both of them have shown they can elevate a program quickly but have not shown they can maintain a program at a high level beyond a few years. I think Freeze will do better at Auburn than Lane will do at Ole Miss because Auburn is going to buy better players. But I think Lane is at the top of the game offensively now and I'm not sure if Freeze still is. What Freeze did was relatively innovative when he was at ole Miss and now it's not that different than average, and I'm not sure if he's continued to evolve. One plus in Freeze's favor is that he has never really failed at a program (although cracks were showing when he left Ole Miss) and Lane did fail at USC (although I think that was a tougher situation than the USC name would imply b/c of probation).

All in all, I think I'd take Lane if I had to pick. I think Freeze cannot stop being Freeze, and his snake oil salesman christianity and hypocrisy combined with mercenary players is likely to create a locker room problem overtime, and I think being at Auburn will make it more likely and more severe. But it's pretty close to a coin flip. We still don't know if Lane can maintain a program, whereas we know if Freeze can just stop being a 17ing narcissistic weirdo he'll be fine. But a tiger changing his stripes is hard, so I'll go with Lane.

[Schultzy]

We could beat them down there this year. I’m 2-0 in games attended down there so I’m going so y’all can worry about him later.

[Turfdawg67]

I don't recall one person being skeptical about Freeze's recruiting. Do you just invent stuff to start a Freeze thread? Click bait topic?? Of course he was going to recruit well... Freeze + Auburn + Boosters + "A license to pay players legally" = Blue Chip players. Simple math.

[bigbub50]

The battles I saw holding freeze back at Auburn were 1) not being able to recruit well, because of his tarnished yet well deserved poor reputation. I wouldn?t want my kid going there and 2) he has to have a good defensive coordinator.

He is showing he can overcome #1 thus far. But still, I don?t think he is picky with character and tells recruits anything they want to hear and that will eventually implode a program.

But in the short term, he doesn?t have an elite qb and the depth of the roster at auburn is not near what it usually is.

[Turfdawg67]

The battles I saw holding freeze back at Auburn were 1) not being able to recruit well, because of his tarnished yet well deserved poor reputation. I wouldn?t want my kid going there and 2) he has to have a good defensive coordinator.

He is showing he can overcome #1 thus far. But still, I don?t think he is picky with character and tells recruits anything they want to hear and that will eventually implode a program.

But in the short term, he doesn?t have an elite qb and the depth of the roster at auburn is not near what it usually is.

I stand corrected C34, Bub here didn't think recruits would play for Freeze. LOL! Thanks for being a moral based parent. $250K+ changes a lot of doubts in the vast majority.

[bigbub50]

I stand corrected C34, Bub here didn't think recruits would play for Freeze. LOL! Thanks for being a moral based parent. $250K+ changes a lot of doubts in the vast majority.

Okay, fair enough. If auburn was willing to pay my kid a large amount more than the next sec school, maybe. Money talks. But all things equal I?d greatly encourage him to go elsewhere.

[Schultzy]

When is the next signing day and are UGA and Alabama conceding the recruits

Question mark

[coachnorm]

The name of the game is NIL funding and Auburn has HISTORY. Remember a guy named Bobby Lowder an affiliate who oversaw the payouts of Auburn players thru a money laundering method at nearby casinos? Now there is no need to launder money with the advent of corporate NIL. College collectives are not even in the discussion.

Being that Auburn is experienced with the Cassino Culture, an acquaintance with the Las Vegas Garaspi Family or N.Y. Genovese Family could be business as usual. Do not forget the Saudi Private Investment Firm which is encroaching American Sports.

I can not think of anyone else that would fit in better with those three examples, in second paragraph, than Hugh Freeze. When those types of people gather, money can be exchanged outside the COLLECTIVE method. When money is exchanged talent is acquired so who needs to be a great recruiter with that type of NIL support?

[Coach34]

Okay, fair enough. If auburn was willing to pay my kid a large amount more than the next sec school, maybe. Money talks. But all things equal I?d greatly encourage him to go elsewhere.

Alot of recruits come from broken homes and such. They dont give a shit about Freeze's past. It's all about NIL and helping them to the NFL.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Freeze's biggest recruiting advantage in the past is now legal for everyone to do. He will be average to good, not great.

[DownwardDawg]

Freeze's biggest recruiting advantage in the past is now legal for everyone to do. He will be average to good, not great.

This is what I think also. I think people are just disregarding the fact of how bad he cheated to get his players. Now he has to outspend everyone else openly.

[TrapGame]

This is what I think also. I think people are just disregarding the fact of how bad he cheated to get his players. Now he has to outspend everyone else openly.

And the SEC no longer having a West and an East starting next season is going to help him a lot. He could easily make AU a playoff team in the expanded playoffs.

[confucius say]

And the SEC no longer having a West and an East starting next season is going to help him a lot. He could easily make AU a playoff team in the expanded playoffs.

Which is where Malzahn had them several times. I don't expect freeze to do anything Malzahn didn't do.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Why? He took over a loser program and went 39-25 in 6 seasons with a Sugar Bowl. He beat Bama twice. His offenses were very good. His teams did lack defensively and defensive talent.

The slimiest guy I have ever been around.

Made me want to take a shower after being in the same room

[BuckyIsAB****]

Auburn swinging for the fences for our QB tells you a lot about what the Rev thinks.

He is a good offensive coach, but there are a lot of those. It is easier now to be a good offensive coach than ever before. And he still got ran out of town in shame after having some others fall on his sword.

Cant argue that he hasnt won, and he will win there but he wont be there as long as Malzahn was.

[TrapGame]

Auburn swinging for the fences for our QB tells you a lot about what the Rev thinks.

He is a good offensive coach, but there are a lot of those. It is easier now to be a good offensive coach than ever before. And he still got ran out of town in shame after having some others fall on his sword.

Cant argue that he hasnt won, and he will win there but he wont be there as long as Malzahn was.

I give it four years tops and the locker room will be total chaos b/c Freeze can't manage the divas.

[confucius say]

Why? He took over a loser program and went 39-25 in 6 seasons with a Sugar Bowl. He beat Bama twice. His offenses were very good. His teams did lack defensively and defensive talent.

Didn't he have the number 1 defense in the country in 2014?

[TrapGame]

Didn't he have the number 1 defense in the country in 2014?

Thanks to Mark Allen. When he left to go be HC at Indiana that defense went to hell quick. He was the guy giving Womack the weekly breakdown of the opposing offense and the defensive game plan.

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

I give it four years tops and the locker room will be total chaos b/c Freeze can't manage the divas.

Also, couple that with the delusional,“All In” Auburn fanbase that expects au to beat UA-T at least at a 0.500 clip and win the toughest division in CFB several times a decade. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission may have to get involved in that meltdown. Unfortunately for us, we will once again lose to Bucky more times than not at his latest stint.

[Matt3467]

I give it four years tops and the locker room will be total chaos b/c Freeze can't manage the divas.

If I were a betting man I'd take that. The only reason he wouldn't be at AU after 4 years is if a bigger job opens up.

[Pancho]

when Florida gets rid of Napier?

[Goldendawg]

when Florida gets rid of Napier?

Well, he can't blame it on lack recruiting talent for the 2024 class thus far. #3 class with 2 five stars and 12 fours. 2023 class 18 fours. Results like this didn't save Dan though and I would have rather have a focused Dan (I know, dead horse) than Sunbelt Billy.

[lastmajordog]

del

[Pancho]

Saban has a better DC now

[preachermatt83]

https://twitter.com/on3sports/status/1685410651147993088?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw

He?ll be just fine and probably better than ever

Oh no doubt. I?d hire him in a min if I were looking for a coach. And he is just getting started there