Top Baseball Recruit Flips to USCe

[raymonddawg]

2024 grad PJ Morlando just flipped to South Carolina after being committed to State for several years. He's an extremely high draft prospect that'll most likely never play college ball, but it still stings a little.

[ZedFedder]

I think we have lost a few others too.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I've said this for 2 months. What top player wants to play for a school that can't make Hoover and has a coach on the hot seat who will be fired before you get to campus?

"We've got to keep Lemonis or we'll loose this highly rated class!" May be true for the '24 season. But we're just hurting the '25, '26, and '27 classes.

[Cooterpoot]

We never expected him to show up

[CaptainObvious]

We never expected him to show up

Well that certainly softens the blow. We were never getting him so big deal he flips the USCe.😎

[Coach34]

The guy right now is rated the #3 HS junior in the country. He's not going to college

[CaptainObvious]

The guy right now is rated the #3 HS junior in the country. He's not going to college

Then why flip at all? No need to. He could stay committed to State and then sign a pro contract. Does he feel being committed to USCe gives him more clout to being drafted higher as their commit rather than ours?

It makes no since unless there is an underlying reason. Guilt by association maybe?

[Coach34]

Then why flip at all? No need to. He could stay committed to State and then sign a pro contract. Does he feel being committed to USCe gives him more clout to being drafted higher as their commit rather than ours?

It makes no since unless there is an underlying reason. Guilt by association maybe?

LeBron committed to Ohio St. Everybody has a plan B

Dont forget we are in the NIL Era now as well. It's a new day

[CaptainObvious]

LeBron committed to Ohio St. Everybody has a plan B

Dont forget we are in the NIL Era now as well. It's a new day

Did Lebron FLIP from OSU to Northwestern before going pro?

Would it make a difference if this guy flipped to LSU because they promised him $1 mil in NIL? You know exactly why he flipped just like I do and him not going to college anyway sounds exactly like (we didn?t want him anyway) football flips. He may not go to South Carolina but one thing is for sure, he damn sure ain?t coming to State.

[EdwardDrayton]

LeBron committed to Ohio St. Everybody has a plan B

Dont forget we are in the NIL Era now as well. It's a new day

Make that a new shitty day.

[AlSwearengen]

He is from SC, so maybe he grew up an SC fan. If he had committed to lsu, then I would be a little more concerned about the optics. Optics are about all that are involved with this kid though.

That said, Lemonis needs to get the train back on the tracks ricky tick.

[Coach34]

Did Lebron FLIP from OSU to Northwestern before going pro?

Would it make a difference if this guy flipped to LSU because they promised him $1 mil in NIL? You know exactly why he flipped just like I do and him not going to college anyway sounds exactly like (we didn?t want him anyway) football flips. He may not go to South Carolina but one thing is for sure, he damn sure ain?t coming to State.

Would be more like flipping from Ohio State to Indiana. SC has more Nattys than us

[Cooterpoot]

Then why flip at all? No need to. He could stay committed to State and then sign a pro contract. Does he feel being committed to USCe gives him more clout to being drafted higher as their commit rather than ours?

It makes no since unless there is an underlying reason. Guilt by association maybe?

Maybe he like the Cocks

[Ari Gold]

Lemoins dropped the ball with this kid... recruited him like shit.. I know this for a fact

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

LeBron committed to Ohio St. Everybody has a plan B

Right, his "plan B" used to be State, now its SC. That's what we're saying. Not that he's likely to need his plan B, just that it's no longer us, and that That's a bad thing

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

The guy right now is rated the #3 HS junior in the country. He's not going to college


Dont forget we are in the NIL Era now as well. It's a new day

Wait a minute, os the guy going pro or is he flipping for NIL reasons? NOBODY throws NIL at a kid that won't be on campus. Not in any sport. You can't simultaneously say we shouldn't care about him because he's going pro AND say SC is so convinced he'll make it to campus they offer NIL.

Now, they may promise NIL to a kid IF he makes it to campus, but then all were saying is State is getting outspent AGAIN in baseball. You're trying to shift the narrative from "Lemonis lost a recruit" to "State can't hang in recruiting due to NIL". Not sure how that helps. If anything, it makes the situation WORSE: We can replace a coach that's doing bad, we can't replace poor boosters.

[Coach34]

Yes- the NIL promise is if he makes it to campus. Which is extremely unlikely at this point

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Yes- the NIL promise is if he makes it to campus. Which is extremely unlikely at this point

And we didn't match said offer, thus a potential future 1st round stud wont play college here. Just sayin', if we want to be the best we've got to get the best players, we can't be letting every top Portal or HS kid be bought out from under us

[The Federalist Engineer]

We have seen MLB prospects flip schools before.

Henderson had a UK recruit from Florida that flipped to MSU as a HS-Senior. Bryson Hutchinson.

Was drafted in the 12th round by the Mets.

Then signed with the Mets after a few weeks of negotiation. The college commitment was probably just leverage.

Chipper Jones flipped from Stetson (local school) to Miami, he did not want more schooling and did not even like going to HS. He was being recruited, he felt like giving a "commitment" was just something one did. It's in his book, a great baseball book. Covers how baseball brawls happen, how most minor leaguers spend 1/2 their bonus on a new truck, how women-folk get the other 1/2 of the bonus, how major prospects are managed in the minors, Macon Georgia baseball groupies, how Latin guys 'dance' with your girls at parties, the etiquette demands of Albert Pujols, how Pedro Borbon was a brazen womanizer of teammates GF and/or Wife, and how cool Derek Jeter actually is.

[tribaldawg]

And we didn't match said offer, thus a potential future 1st round stud wont play college here. Just sayin', if we want to be the best we've got to get the best players, we can't be letting every top Portal or HS kid be bought out from under us

Why write down a million dollars beside a kid that will never play college baseball? Whatever the number the kid is looking for is not tied up and State can use that money on other prospects that are actually going to play college baseball.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We have seen MLB prospects flip schools before.

Henderson had a UK recruit from Florida that flipped to MSU as a HS-Senior. Bryson Hutchinson.

Was drafted in the 12th round by the Mets.

Then signed with the Mets after a few weeks of negotiation. The college commitment was probably just leverage.

Chipper Jones flipped from Stetson (local school) to Miami, he did not want more schooling and did not even like going to HS. He was being recruited, he felt like giving a "commitment" was just something one did. It's in his book, a great baseball book. Covers how baseball brawls happen, how most minor leaguers spend 1/2 their bonus on a new truck, how women-folk get the other 1/2 of the bonus, how major prospects are managed in the minors, Macon Georgia baseball groupies, how Latin guys 'dance' with your girls at parties, the etiquette demands of Albert Pujols, how Pedro Borbon was a brazen womanizer of teammates GF and/or Wife, and how cool Derek Jeter actually is.

Right, but he already committed to us. Every aspect you mention was taken care of. So why bother flipping to SC?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Why write down a million dollars beside a kid that will never play college baseball? Whatever the number the kid is looking for is not tied up and State can use that money on other prospects that are actually going to play college baseball.

Why recruit a kid that will never play college baseball in the first place? We did. And so did SC. Because even if there's a 99% chance they will go pro that 1% is worth the effort for 2 or 3 year difference makers.

And I highly doubt $1M was written down. Proven top Portal studs don't go for that much, and SC just lost a PC and almost lost their HC due to lack of commitment to baseball. They aren't dropping anything close to $1m on a baseball player if they can't pay their HC enough to keep him

[maroonmania]

Lemoins dropped the ball with this kid... recruited him like shit.. I know this for a fact

Oh well, so much for Lemonis' one strong suit being recruiting.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Why recruit a kid that will never play college baseball in the first place? We did. And so did SC. Because even if there's a 99% chance they will go pro that 1% is worth the effort for 2 or 3 year difference makers.

And I highly doubt $1M was written down. Proven top Portal studs don't go for that much, and SC just lost a PC and almost lost their HC due to lack of commitment to baseball. They aren't dropping anything close to $1m on a baseball player if they can't pay their HC enough to keep him

I guess the premise is that other kids see your school as a destination, when they see the biggest names committing there. The coach has a brand ambassador for a few years. Alex Rodriguez was #1 Overall Pick that committed to U of Miami, never played for Miami but he still identifies with the school and even donates - 3.9M to the renovation of the Baseball facilities.

Another reason can be that you recruit kids as HS Freshman and Sophomores. Some kids keep on growing into 1st Round levels. I think that's what happened with Austin Riley. He wanted to be a Bulldog but his stock kept rising.

Another premise is family ties. Evidently the Sam Cozart genes are perfect for baseball that might be too good for college. But maybe now you have a link to the great family and the dad/uncle is a respected coach. Flip side is Ole Miss with the Dulin kid, that turned sour?

[confucius say]

An out of state kid who will never play college ball flipped to his in state school. Who cares. Much more interested in the Holman, Montgomery, burns sweepstakes.

[Cooterpoot]

An out of state kid who will never play college ball flipped to his in state school. Who cares. Much more interested in the Holman, Montgomery, burns sweepstakes.

Plus, if Twitter is accurate, Makai Grant made it to campus. That's possibly a big win.

[Turfdawg67]

I assume that part of his sales pitch was "winning" and "regionals". Can't do that as of late. Lolz

[tribaldawg]

Why recruit a kid that will never play college baseball in the first place? We did. And so did SC. Because even if there's a 99% chance they will go pro that 1% is worth the effort for 2 or 3 year difference makers.

And I highly doubt $1M was written down. Proven top Portal studs don't go for that much, and SC just lost a PC and almost lost their HC due to lack of commitment to baseball. They aren't dropping anything close to $1m on a baseball player if they can't pay their HC enough to keep him

You must have missed the post saying Lemonis had put little effort into recruiting the kid. Go back and check it out.

[Apoplectic]

i?m gonna guess less will go pro now that they get a lot of pocket change to play college

[Cooterpoot]

i?m gonna guess less will go pro now that they get a lot of pocket change to play college

The draft is much shorter now too. Both should help to keep players.