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StarkVegasSteve
04-20-2023, 09:55 AM
The University just received a damn 100 million dollar gift from a billionaire alum from Houston, TX. I really hope they let Charlie sit in on that meeting with Keenum. Hell just give the BI one million

confucius say
04-20-2023, 10:29 AM
Can we just give the BI the interest on 100 million yearly? That'd be great

StarkVegasSteve
04-20-2023, 10:33 AM
Can we just give the BI the interest on 100 million yearly? That'd be great

I wish. This guy is apparently worth north of 3 billion and owns an island in the Bahamas. Like that's some Pablo Escobar shit. Obviously minus the copious amounts of murders, blow, and other things. However, if Pablo Escobar was still alive and wanted to give the BI 10 million dollars I have zero issue winning national championships on blood money.

In all seriousness though, these are the types of guys that we have to get interested and invested in athletics. The Rulas, Richard Adkerson, Chip Crane, and The Mize's can't continually fund everything we do.

ZedFedder
04-20-2023, 11:12 AM
Honestly, $10 million at the minimum should go to the Bulldog Initiative.

EdwardDrayton
04-20-2023, 11:27 AM
I think we'd all agree, HE can have a statue.

Homedawg
04-20-2023, 11:32 AM
Honestly, $10 million at the minimum should go to the Bulldog Initiative.

He didn't designate it that way....

Bdawg
04-20-2023, 11:32 AM
Surely recruiting will pick up!! Ha!
Very generous. Thank you sir!!

StarkVegasSteve
04-20-2023, 11:35 AM
I think we'd all agree, HE can have a statue.

He can have the initiative and every stadium named after him if he gives the BI 10 mil

CaptainObvious
04-20-2023, 11:51 AM
My suspicion is he/she doesn?t give a rats patuty about MSU Sports or we would already know a portion was earmarked for athletics!

KOdawg1
04-20-2023, 12:06 PM
I really hope we pester the shit out of them for NIL. If they can drop $100M, they won't miss another $2M

StarkVegasSteve
04-20-2023, 12:10 PM
My suspicion is he/she doesn?t give a rats patuty about MSU Sports or we would already know a portion was earmarked for athletics!

That's a problem I've noticed with a portion of these oil/gas guys that graduated from State and moved to Texas during the 60s,70s, and 80s. Whether it's this guy or whether it's a guy like Tommy Nusz. They've both given 8 figure checks to the University in the last 10 years, and Bishop has given a 9 figure. There's obviously more but those are the two examples that come to mind. But they really don't seem to care about athletics. I think Nusz gave some money for softball so that's a start, but it doesn't seem like we did a good job keeping up with guys like this during their careers. Of course, Larry Templeton was the AD and he couldn't have anyone more important than himself in the room. We couldn't bring guys like this into the fold because that would've destroyed Templeton's lame ass schtick that he was running the dept on a shoestring budget.

Saltydog
04-20-2023, 12:38 PM
Damn, that's some serious lose change he had hanging around.

Hot Rock
04-20-2023, 01:17 PM
This is for education only. Good for him and frankly way more important to our society but... They can give again to NIL if they can find it in their hearts at least give em a taste.

Someone with good information can explain how enrollment goes up etc....

confucius say
04-20-2023, 02:28 PM
That's a problem I've noticed with a portion of these oil/gas guys that graduated from State and moved to Texas during the 60s,70s, and 80s. Whether it's this guy or whether it's a guy like Tommy Nusz. They've both given 8 figure checks to the University in the last 10 years, and Bishop has given a 9 figure. There's obviously more but those are the two examples that come to mind. But they really don't seem to care about athletics. I think Nusz gave some money for softball so that's a start, but it doesn't seem like we did a good job keeping up with guys like this during their careers. Of course, Larry Templeton was the AD and he couldn't have anyone more important than himself in the room. We couldn't bring guys like this into the fold because that would've destroyed Templeton's lame ass schtick that he was running the dept on a shoestring budget.

Exactly. Amd Cohen is such an ass that nobody wants to be in a room with him.

StarkVegasSteve
04-20-2023, 03:14 PM
Exactly. Amd Cohen is such an ass that nobody wants to be in a room with him.

And that's where Ole Miss kicks our ass time and time again. They keep up with the young alumni, they make them feel important, they make it a big thing to come back to Oxford after you've graduated and hang out and go to games and the square. So now when these guys start making some real money in their 30s and 40s they've been coming back to Oxford for 10-15 years 3-4 times in the fall and 3-4 times in the spring they're more willing and approachable to be hit up for a 5-6 figure donation to their NIL or their foundation or whatever it may be.

I'd venture a guess that if 10,000 students graduate State this calendar year, 8,000 of them won't step foot on campus for 5-10 years. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER. The university has to make it fun to come back to Starkville for games, they have to make it fun to come back to Dudy Noble for a weekend series. We don't do that. They keep trying to cater to the same 1% that gives them checks for the last 50 years. And you need those guys, but you also need the guys who are going to be making that money in 10-20 years.

Todd4State
04-20-2023, 11:38 PM
And that's where Ole Miss kicks our ass time and time again. They keep up with the young alumni, they make them feel important, they make it a big thing to come back to Oxford after you've graduated and hang out and go to games and the square. So now when these guys start making some real money in their 30s and 40s they've been coming back to Oxford for 10-15 years 3-4 times in the fall and 3-4 times in the spring they're more willing and approachable to be hit up for a 5-6 figure donation to their NIL or their foundation or whatever it may be.

I'd venture a guess that if 10,000 students graduate State this calendar year, 8,000 of them won't step foot on campus for 5-10 years. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER. The university has to make it fun to come back to Starkville for games, they have to make it fun to come back to Dudy Noble for a weekend series. We don't do that. They keep trying to cater to the same 1% that gives them checks for the last 50 years. And you need those guys, but you also need the guys who are going to be making that money in 10-20 years.

Yeah. Ole Miss has a lot of lawyers especially and doctors that are still local to Mississippi and probably Memphis too.

Much easier for them to make it back to campus.

Todd4State
04-20-2023, 11:38 PM
That's a problem I've noticed with a portion of these oil/gas guys that graduated from State and moved to Texas during the 60s,70s, and 80s. Whether it's this guy or whether it's a guy like Tommy Nusz. They've both given 8 figure checks to the University in the last 10 years, and Bishop has given a 9 figure. There's obviously more but those are the two examples that come to mind. But they really don't seem to care about athletics. I think Nusz gave some money for softball so that's a start, but it doesn't seem like we did a good job keeping up with guys like this during their careers. Of course, Larry Templeton was the AD and he couldn't have anyone more important than himself in the room. We couldn't bring guys like this into the fold because that would've destroyed Templeton's lame ass schtick that he was running the dept on a shoestring budget.

I'm 99% sure he had family that was an assistant for us under Charley Shira here too.

Liverpooldawg
04-21-2023, 09:31 AM
This is for endowed academic scholarships from what I read. Seeing that our total endowment is something like $700 million before this, that is an amazing gift. Well done to them. This is much more important than sports, and those that know me know how big a sports fan I am.

RiverCityDawg
04-21-2023, 09:52 AM
This is for endowed academic scholarships from what I read. Seeing that our total endowment is something like $700 million before this, that is an amazing gift. Well done to them. This is much more important than sports, and those that know me know how big a sports fan I am.

I don't think the impact success in the major sports has on the school as a whole, which includes academics, can be ignored though. Athletics is the best marketing the school can get. Pumping up the football program would be great for academics.

Just 5-10% of that donation towards NIL would be a game changer and have a tremendously positive impact for Mississippi State University.

Problem is he wouldn't get a tax write off for whatever he gives to the Bulldog Initiative.

deltadawg63
04-21-2023, 10:10 AM
One particular aspect could be that a majority of our graduates that achieve the higher levels of income and wealth over time are engineering graduates. The reality is that most of these graduates make their careers away, sometimes far away, from the state of Mississippi; thus, the disconnect is challenging. I agree, more could be done to motivate alums to return to campus. Also, I surmise that a significant number of our engineering and architecture students, for example, are at MSU more narrowly for degree attainment and not for "love" of school, sports and social aspects; which is typical even at other universities with these fields as major parts of the school...Purdue, NC State, etc.

StarkVegasSteve
04-21-2023, 11:17 AM
Yeah. Ole Miss has a lot of lawyers especially and doctors that are still local to Mississippi and probably Memphis too.

Much easier for them to make it back to campus.

I know plenty of OM fans out here in Dallas and ones that are from Birmingham or Atlanta and it's a big thing to get back to Oxford 2-3 times in the fall and in the spring. And it's because they push that. Completely different from our university. We don't push it at all. Which is why when these young alums start making the real money, whatever OM fans call their initiative will be flush and ours will still be plodding along hoping to get $10 a month donations from Bob from Bogue Chitto and Andy from Ackerman. Because they feel a connection to Ole Miss. If you're not a die hard fan or don't have a really good reason to come back then you're not coming back to Starkville and thus those people don't really feel a connection to Mississippi State.

R2Dawg
04-21-2023, 11:34 AM
Honestly, $10 million at the minimum should go to the Bulldog Initiative.

Mighty big of you to dictate where His money should go. He gave his money, he can direct it any way he chooses.

R2Dawg
04-21-2023, 11:35 AM
I think we'd all agree, HE can have a statue.

I'd say that would get a building name, yeah statue works too.

R2Dawg
04-21-2023, 11:41 AM
This is for endowed academic scholarships from what I read. Seeing that our total endowment is something like $700 million before this, that is an amazing gift. Well done to them. This is much more important than sports, and those that know me know how big a sports fan I am.

Totally agree. We are supposed to be an institution of higher learning (IHL), not a minor league sports franchise. Our society will pay dearly for mixing up priorities in the long run. I am already seeing it in my professional field. The quality of professionals in many fields is pathetic now. We got to keep the main thing the main thing. Do any of yall want a doctor cutting on you with a weak degree behind it?

I love and support sports too but as a culture we got our priorities out of order. It starts at the HS level too.

No problem if he wants to give some to BI or whatever but it is the donor's choice alone. Socialist are always good at spending other people's money.

Liverpooldawg
04-21-2023, 12:06 PM
I don't think the impact success in the major sports has on the school as a whole, which includes academics, can be ignored though. Athletics is the best marketing the school can get. Pumping up the football program would be great for academics.

Just 5-10% of that donation towards NIL would be a game changer and have a tremendously positive impact for Mississippi State University.

Problem is he wouldn't get a tax write off for whatever he gives to the Bulldog Initiative.

That 5-10 million will do a LOT more good where it is going. The fact remains that this guy designated where that money should go. You can't spend his money for him.

RiverCityDawg
04-21-2023, 01:49 PM
That 5-10 million will do a LOT more good where it is going. The fact remains that this guy designated where that money should go. You can't spend his money for him.

Didn't try to.

But I do think 90 million to academics and 10 million to NIL would do more good overall for the university than 100 million just to academics. I can have that opinion without trying to spend his money. I'm happy he gave what he gave.

oldjoedawg
04-22-2023, 06:17 PM
Totally agree. We are supposed to be an institution of higher learning (IHL), not a minor league sports franchise. Our society will pay dearly for mixing up priorities in the long run. I am already seeing it in my professional field. The quality of professionals in many fields is pathetic now. We got to keep the main thing the main thing. Do any of yall want a doctor cutting on you with a weak degree behind it?

I love and support sports too but as a culture we got our priorities out of order. It starts at the HS level too.

No problem if he wants to give some to BI or whatever but it is the donor's choice alone. Socialist are always good at spending other people's money.

Totally correct response in this post....thanks for speaking your piece and I especially love the last sentence of your post. Class of '62

Goldendawg
04-22-2023, 07:26 PM
Totally agree. We are supposed to be an institution of higher learning (IHL), not a minor league sports franchise. Our society will pay dearly for mixing up priorities in the long run. I am already seeing it in my professional field. The quality of professionals in many fields is pathetic now. We got to keep the main thing the main thing. Do any of yall want a doctor cutting on you with a weak degree behind it?

I love and support sports too but as a culture we got our priorities out of order. It starts at the HS level too.

No problem if he wants to give some to BI or whatever but it is the donor's choice alone. Socialist are always good at spending other people's money.

Must spread some rep around before giving it to R2Dawg again. Read another article that he had already set up a $10 mil scholarship foundation previously that has helped 90 students at State. Hail this family for remembering how his education set the groundwork for his success. May this latest gift provide the same opportunity for many other State students. Hail State!