For those complaining about recruiting

[confucius say]

The BI is launching a 100 day campaign to raise 200k. Below is a link to donate. Don't complain if you're not willing to donate at least $10.

https://members.bulldoginitiative.com/publicInj/fundraisingCampaign/makeDonation/917nbSQHzQEjtFdrHY5UnQ

[Commercecomet24]

Thanks for posting that! Everyone of us can put something in! Let's make it happen!

[BeardoMSU]

This should absolutely be an easy goal to meet...

Does anyone know what type of corporate partnerships the BI has made? Has the bulk of our NIL funding been things like this, i.e., from small donors within the fanbase? I would love to know a ratio of that because 200k here and there from the fans isn't going to be anywhere near enough for State to swim in the NIL ocean.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Link doesn't work.

[R2Dawg]

The BI is launching a 100 day campaign to raise 200k. Below is a link to donate. Don't complain if you're not willing to donate at least $10.

https://members.bulldoginitiative.com/publicInj/fundraisingCampaign/makeDonation/917nbSQHzQEjtFdrHY5UnQ

The freedom or right to have an opinion about any deficiency doesn't begin with giving money to BI.

I give plenty to MSU in all sorts of areas. I ain't complaining about recruiting either but so what.

Sick of this NIL BS. Such a corrupt ponzi scheme. The richer programs just get more money. You will not catch up. There are more good players today than ever. So what point is NIL anyway if you waste it on players that aren't any good? I don't want any players that don't want to be here either.

[BeardoMSU]

The freedom or right to have an opinion about any deficiency doesn't begin with giving money to BI.

I give plenty to MSU in all sorts of areas. I ain't complaining about recruiting either but so what.

Sick of this NIL BS. Such a corrupt ponzi scheme. The richer programs just get more money. You will not catch up. There are more good players today than ever. So what point is NIL anyway if you waste it on players that aren't any good? I don't want any players that don't want to be here either.

Adapt or die, R2.

And to your point, the meat of the bill shouldn't be passed to normal fans like us, but corporate deals and the millionaire alumni. That's the only way this will work.

[KOdawg1]

The freedom or right to have an opinion about any deficiency doesn't begin with giving money to BI.

I give plenty to MSU in all sorts of areas. I ain't complaining about recruiting either but so what.

Sick of this NIL BS. Such a corrupt ponzi scheme. The richer programs just get more money. You will not catch up. There are more good players today than ever. So what point is NIL anyway if you waste it on players that aren't any good? I don't want any players that don't want to be here either.

You can be sick of it all you want, but it's where we're at. Either embrace it or we'll be Vandy lite

[Coach34]

Adapt or die, R2.

And to your point, the meat of the bill shouldn't be passed to normal fans like us, but corporate deals and the millionaire alumni. That's the only way this will work.

very well put. We have to have the Big Dawgs do the major work- BUT- we have a huge army of regular Dawgs that at $20 per month would help make a difference. 10K people donating $20/month is 200K per month. We should have 20K donating $20/month. 400K/month by regular, everyday Dawgs would do huge things for our program

[confucius say]

Link doesn't work.

Sorry. It should for people who are members. If not, just click on the "home" link and it will take you to the page where you can log in

[BeardoMSU]

very well put. We have to have the Big Dawgs do the major work- BUT- we have a huge army of regular Dawgs that at $20 per month would help make a difference. 10K people donating $20/month is 200K per month. We should have 20K donating $20/month. 400K/month by regular, everyday Dawgs would do huge things for our program

Totally agree, 34.

[BeardoMSU]

very well put. We have to have the Big Dawgs do the major work- BUT- we have a huge army of regular Dawgs that at $20 per month would help make a difference. 10K people donating $20/month is 200K per month. We should have 20K donating $20/month. 400K/month by regular, everyday Dawgs would do huge things for our program

Also, now that we have an AD that gives af about NIL and doesn't sabotage it at every chance, we should hopefully see an uptick across the board.

[Commercecomet24]

very well put. We have to have the Big Dawgs do the major work- BUT- we have a huge army of regular Dawgs that at $20 per month would help make a difference. 10K people donating $20/month is 200K per month. We should have 20K donating $20/month. 400K/month by regular, everyday Dawgs would do huge things for our program

Nailed it!

[confucius say]

We have 15k bulldog club members.
Just $10 a month from all of them would be 150k monthly, or 1.8 million yearly.
That would be huge.
I wish we could make it mandatory.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Thank you for posting that. Had no clue about it, but definitely went and donated. Like others have said, even if you can only donate $10-$50 dollars do it. That's $10-$50 they didn't have before. And if we can't get money from people giving the University $100,000,000.00 then we're going to have to grass roots this thing.

[Leroy Jenkins]

What is Wake Forest's (Or ECU? Or Campbell? Or Coastal? Or UK? Or UVA? Or BC?) NIL budget for baseball compared to MSU?.....

[Todd4State]

We have 15k bulldog club members.
Just $10 a month from all of them would be 150k monthly, or 1.8 million yearly.
That would be huge.
I wish we could make it mandatory.

I wish the Bulldog Club would automatically give a percentage of our donations to BI.

They keep increasing our donation level and that hurts what many of us can give to the BI

[R2Dawg]

Adapt or die, R2.

And to your point, the meat of the bill shouldn't be passed to normal fans like us, but corporate deals and the millionaire alumni. That's the only way this will work.

We won't die. We wasted NIL baseball money that produced basically nothing.

Fact is, we ain't going to outspend any of the big boys for anyone they really want.

[R2Dawg]

I wish the Bulldog Club would automatically give a percentage of our donations to BI.

They keep increasing our donation level and that hurts what many of us can give to the BI

The money pot ain't endless to your point which I why I keep saying it is a ponzi scheme. Everyone got their hand out everywhere. The ballon will not continue unchecked. Some folks are in a panic thinking we'll implode if we don't sell our firstborn to give to NIL.

[R2Dawg]

We have 15k bulldog club members.
Just $10 a month from all of them would be 150k monthly, or 1.8 million yearly.
That would be huge.
I wish we could make it mandatory.

Just curious, how many wins does that buy us?

[R2Dawg]

very well put. We have to have the Big Dawgs do the major work- BUT- we have a huge army of regular Dawgs that at $20 per month would help make a difference. 10K people donating $20/month is 200K per month. We should have 20K donating $20/month. 400K/month by regular, everyday Dawgs would do huge things for our program

Difference in exactly what? Honest question. Never seen anyone answer it. Where is the data or proof of what it gets us. One 5 star in football don't win us nothing. Bama got all the money and they ain't got a QB.

How much money we pay a player that doesn't produce? How many wins does it get us? TAMU says high from the I got the most money but no championships.

[MrCoachKlein]

Difference in exactly what? Honest question. Never seen anyone answer it. Where is the data or proof of what it gets us. One 5 star in football don't win us nothing. Bama got all the money and they ain't got a QB.

How much money we pay a player that doesn't produce? How many wins does it get us? TAMU says high from the I got the most money but no championships.

25K more? Might've gotten us to a championship in 2010.

[gtowndawg]

I pay every month to be in the Bulldog Initiative. It's not much but my only small complaint is there's no communication. I was sort of hoping maybe they would give some updates from time to time. In fact, I've not received anything about this new goal and you would think they would hit up existing members to see if they can up their gift or do a small one-time gift?

I'd also love to know how many members there are currently. Not complaining, it's hard to get these things off the ground and run proficiently, they will get there! I appreciate those behind the effort.

[NCMSTFAN]

What is Wake Forest's (Or ECU? Or Campbell? Or Coastal? Or UK? Or UVA? Or BC?) NIL budget for baseball compared to MSU?.....

I can't speak on most of those schools but I am very familiar with Campbell, I live about 25 minutes away from their University and have been on their campus hundreds of times. It is a very small but nice school in a very small town. Their aren't really many famous Alumni from that school other than a handful so I can pretty much assure you they aren't getting a ton of money from the alumni. They just have a really good coaching staff that knows how to evaluate talent and build a team.

[YazooDawg23]

The freedom or right to have an opinion about any deficiency doesn't begin with giving money to BI.

I give plenty to MSU in all sorts of areas. I ain't complaining about recruiting either but so what.

Sick of this NIL BS. Such a corrupt ponzi scheme. The richer programs just get more money. You will not catch up. There are more good players today than ever. So what point is NIL anyway if you waste it on players that aren't any good? I don't want any players that don't want to be here either.

I bet you?re a blast at parties

[Coach34]

Difference in exactly what? Honest question. Never seen anyone answer it. Where is the data or proof of what it gets us. One 5 star in football don't win us nothing. Bama got all the money and they ain't got a QB.

How much money we pay a player that doesn't produce? How many wins does it get us? TAMU says high from the I got the most money but no championships.

It's little things like keeping players we already have. Keeping Hines at State will cost money because he will get offers from other SEC programs. Loftin, Loo, Holcombe, etc will be in the same boat. LSU made a huge offer to Tolu and it cost us to keep him at State. This is the forgotten part of NIL- it's not just pulling kids from other schools.

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

I find it comical that the future of our athletic success or lack there of essentially comes down to how much the alumni choose to give or not give.

Personally, I?d much prefer our income going to my kids and things we want to do, not giving blindly to a system that nobody really knows what goes where.

The NIL nonsense can be quite frustrating.

[Tripp McNeely]

I find it comical that the future of our athletic success or lack there of essentially comes down to how much the alumni choose to give or not give.

Personally, I?d much prefer our income going to my kids and things we want to do, not giving blindly to a system that nobody really knows what goes where.

The NIL nonsense can be quite frustrating.

I mean, hasn't it always...even before the NIL era? Those who have always spent the most, won the most.

[WSOPdawg]

It's little things like keeping players we already have. Keeping Hines at State will cost money because he will get offers from other SEC programs. Loftin, Loo, Holcombe, etc will be in the same boat. LSU made a huge offer to Tolu and it cost us to keep him at State. This is the forgotten part of NIL- it's not just pulling kids from other schools.

Yep, my fear is seeing LSU or UF swipe Lo Cijntje next year. Hopefully we can prevent this.

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

I mean, hasn't it always...even before the NIL era? Those who have always spent the most, won the most.

This is true, but previous it was just more ?underground? than now. The system just doesn?t give us many advantages over schools with more immediate high income generating professions. Of course our alumni do well, but lack of professional schools combined with general southeast/Mississippi salaries doesn?t exactly work in our favor.

[Tmjdog]

How many wins does that buy us? I?d say about 6-8 wins a year. If we compete in the NIL arena, we stay a respectable program - don?t have to dominate, but must compete. If we don?t, as others have tried to explain to you, Vanderbilt Lite is a good analogy. How many consecutive years have we been bowling? We are easily recognized as a competitive program today. Let?s keep it that way. Hail State.

[maroonmania]

The NIL nonsense can be quite frustrating.

That's an understatement. Not even professional leagues deal with all out bidding wars on EVERY good player EVERY year. Makes me want to swear off college sports altogether.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Adapt or die, R2.

And to your point, the meat of the bill shouldn't be passed to normal fans like us, but corporate deals and the millionaire alumni. That's the only way this will work.

Then we die. Because we all can give literally all of our money, and aTm and Bama raises more anyway.

[Lord McBuckethead]

This is true, but previous it was just more ?underground? than now. The system just doesn?t give us many advantages over schools with more immediate high income generating professions. Of course our alumni do well, but lack of professional schools combined with general southeast/Mississippi salaries doesn?t exactly work in our favor.

We should start a medical school and a law school, stat.

[maroonmania]

We should start a medical school and a law school, stat.

That would definitely help. MSU offers a lot of technical degrees in a state without a lot of technical jobs. So a lot of our highest income graduates have had to leave the state to get good jobs. Doctors and lawyers can work anywhere and make a lot of money.

[confucius say]

We should start a medical school and a law school, stat.

More med school students at ummc were state grads than OM grads the last time I saw those numbers. Granted, that's been a couple years ago.