USCe game 1

[Leroy Jenkins]

Alford must have naked pics of Lemonis.




https://twitter.com/hailstatebb/status/1641560940926623745?s=46&t=DGtd-fTS2I8QetuRZ9flcA

[EdwardDrayton]

Alford must have naked pics of Lemonis.

For the love of all that is holy, please don't ever leak those pics.

[Commercecomet24]

Interesting lineup but I like we're trying some different things

[Leroy Jenkins]

Get yo ass out there Fox.

[msstate7]

Unbelievable.

I still don't think that ball hit the 1st guy. If you take a fastball on the hand, I think you at least cringe

[EdwardDrayton]

Lo battles back to end the inning with no damage but throws a lot of pitches.

[State82]

Good confidence builder right there for the freshman.

[Commercecomet24]

Lo has a lot of poise for a freshman

[Leroy Jenkins]

When Lo makes it through the 1st he settles a little.


ETA: .....Usually.

[Commercecomet24]

Unbelievable.

I still don't think that ball hit the 1st guy. If you take a fastball on the hand, I think you at least cringe

I'm with ya. It looked like it hit the bat and 95 off the hand hurts way worse than what he showed

[StarkVegasSteve]

Good call there. Clear that he leaned into it.

[Commercecomet24]

Great call right there!

[EdwardDrayton]

That was the right call

[StarkVegasSteve]

Also, is Lemonis trying to channel his inner Cannizarro tonight? Going with the short sleeve jacket and sleeves underneath.

[EdwardDrayton]

Basically used his elbow pad like a glove to catch the contact

[Leroy Jenkins]

Horrible bunt and a 50/50 call save the inning. The season is turning around.

[Commercecomet24]

Horrible bunt and a 50/50 call save the inning. The season is turning around.

I was thinking the same thing lol

[Commercecomet24]

That was the right call

Yes it was

[Commercecomet24]

My boy Hujsak always producing

[KB21]

Loo not throwing lefty anymore?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Heck of a jump by Hujsak. We desperately need to get him home.

[msstate7]

Jordan hit that well. Dang

[Commercecomet24]

Lo looking good right now. He's gonna be a good one

[Commercecomet24]

Jordan hit that well. Dang

Yeah that was just bad luck

[Commercecomet24]

Wow every pitch working now!

[KB21]

That is great pitching right there.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Wow every pitch working now!

What a difference an inning makes when you are 18....lol

[Commercecomet24]

What a difference an inning makes when you are 18....lol

Truth!

[Commercecomet24]

There's your run Lo make it stand up lol

[magrooder]

Dawgs take the lead with the rbi single from Hines

[KB21]

Better be getting someone ready in the pen.

[KB21]

I would not let him go a third time through the order.

[Activated Alpha]

Better be getting someone ready in the pen.

3 hard hit balls that inning. Looks like they are seeing his pitches better. Has he thrown from the left yet? If so, then they need to get the pen warmed up to come in to keep the game where it is

[magrooder]

Jordan hustled that one out

[KB21]

He has not thrown lefty at all.

[Activated Alpha]

Jordan hustled that one out

Then promptly picked off

[magrooder]

Then promptly picked off

Yep. smh

[msstate7]

Can you block the bag with your foot? Could you just drop your knee and block the base entirely?

[KB21]

Left him in too long.

[msstate7]

This game is slipping away. Go get em

[msstate7]

Ok, that was nice. 1 more out, and get a shower

[Saltydog]

Lo going to give up another dinger if he keeps hanging that curveball. He's gotten lucky thus.....

[Activated Alpha]

Can you block the bag with your foot? Could you just drop your knee and block the base entirely?

That?s what I was thinking. Next dive back just lunge for his knees. Bet he won?t black the bag next time

[Ranchdawg]

Tap me on the head while I just got thrown out at first I would be jumping up and being all up in your grill.

[Leroy Jenkins]

SC's left guard just stole a base.

[Activated Alpha]

And once again, we leave a pitcher out there to flounder

[Commercecomet24]

You can block the bag if you have the ball or a play is imminent.

[Cowbell]

And once again, we leave a pitcher out there to flounder

Yep and everyone in the stands knows it

[Activated Alpha]

Do we even have someone warming up?

[R2Dawg]

Tap me on the head while I just got thrown out at first I would be jumping up and being all up in your grill.

Yeah I'd have a problem there too.

[Commercecomet24]

Do we even have someone warming up?

Yes

[msstate7]

Didn't end like I'd hope, but this is a great outing for the freshman to build on. Now get some effin runs, dawgs

[magrooder]

Looked like Holcombe was about ready

[EdwardDrayton]

Good job Lo stranding that fourth run at 3rd.

[Cowbell]

Didn't end like I'd hope, but this is a great outing for the freshman to build on. Now get some effin runs, dawgs

Yep not on pitchers....yet.....

[Leroy Jenkins]

Holcombe probably starts next inning.

[Commercecomet24]

Didn't end like I'd hope, but this is a great outing for the freshman to build on. Now get some effin runs, dawgs

Yep

[EdwardDrayton]

Couple of good young pitchers battling on a Thursday night in the SEC.

[Leroy Jenkins]

He gets a lot of grief, but If I have to pick one guy to get a bunt down it's Forsythe.

[Commercecomet24]

Huge hit there!

[KB21]

BOOM

[magrooder]

Ledbetter with a two run shot to tie it up

[EdwardDrayton]

The LedBelter is in the house!!

[Leroy Jenkins]

Ledbetter is the off-season pickup of the year for us.

[magrooder]

Hines stays hot with a single

[Leroy Jenkins]

If the team can keep these games close, the crowd can get us some wins. The problem is we don't give the crowd anything to cheer about.

[Cowbell]

That's a season changing type of hit if we can build on it. This is usually when we lose these games

[StarkVegasSteve]

I love us going back to the old HR celebration. More in your face and it reminds me of the 2021 team

[EdwardDrayton]

What Lo did was big. Held a top ten team to three runs. Huge given our run production probably has averaged four or fewer in conference?

[KB21]

We might as well stop trying to throw a base steal attempt out.

[Cowbell]

I honestly thought it would come unraveled there

[KB21]

Holcombe has great stuff.

[magrooder]

Holcombe settled down after the first batter

[EdwardDrayton]

We might as well stop trying to throw a base steal attempt out.

Maybe just me but looks like Luke has a slight hitch in his throw to second. Don't remember ever noticing that before.

[magrooder]

Let's score some runs

[EdwardDrayton]

The tension is building on the Gamecocks; they're expected to win. Hammer down Dawgs; put the foot on that chicken neck.

[Quaoarsking]

You just can't get thrown out on the bases twice in one game...

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Terrible slide by Dakota.

[Activated Alpha]

Why didn?t Hancock run from 3rd on the steal attempt? Seems like we fall for that trick every time

[magrooder]

Well, that's familiar.

[msstate7]

In case you were wondering how we've lost 17 straight sec games...

So dumb to try and run with a power hitter at the plate. Ruined the inning

[GolfDawg]

Well that?s a good way to waste a leadoff double.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We didn’t execute that inning. Terrible slide by Dakota on the steal, Kellum can’t put it in play, Alford has bad at bat

[EdwardDrayton]

Dang. The cliched missed opportunity.

[R2Dawg]

Suck inning right there. Probably ballgame after that.

If you steal from 1st, why not send Hancock? Terrible at bats.

[GolfDawg]

In case you were wondering how we've lost 17 straight sec games...

So dumb to try and run with a power hitter at the plate. Ruined the inning

We do so many things that make it hard to win that are 100% coaching.

[Activated Alpha]

Dang. The cliched missed opportunity.

Missed opportunities. Story of the past two years

[Leroy Jenkins]

Oof. That's rough all the way around.

[R2Dawg]

In case you were wondering how we've lost 17 straight sec games...

So dumb to try and run with a power hitter at the plate. Ruined the inning

Agree that was stupid.

[R2Dawg]

We do so many things that make it hard to win that are 100% coaching.

That whole inning was a cluster poor coaching.

[bulldogcountry1]

USC will score 5 this inning after that garbage.

[StarkVegasSteve]

In regards to that last inning: F***, F***, F***, F***

[SailingDawg]

Who are the TV announcers?

[Activated Alpha]

Ballgame

[R2Dawg]

Too many meatballs by Holcomb over the plate. Holcomb ain't ready for SEC

[EdwardDrayton]

Well shite

[msstate7]

Lemonis pissed the game away last inning

[BeardoMSU]

SC some cvnts. Lemo at least showed some emotion there, lol.

[Activated Alpha]

SC some cvnts. Lemo at least showed some emotion there, lol.

Yup. Hope it ignites our offense because it is once again sucking ass

[msstate7]

Can we say the ejection is reason to fire with cause? Haha

[StarkVegasSteve]

Good to see Lem show that he has not stopped caring. Maybe Fox will get thrown out next and we might stand a chance

[Activated Alpha]

What is it with Alford and not able to play 3B? Like what the hell man?

[magrooder]

FFS

[EdwardDrayton]

Too many meatballs by Holcomb over the plate. Holcomb ain't ready for SEC

Yeah. Throwing a lot of flat fastballs with no movement works well in high school.

[msstate7]

If I were SC's coach, I'd bench any batter who swings at 1st pitch with a guy on 1st. Take a pitch so the batter can move to 2nd. We can't stop em

[R2Dawg]

We are the bad news bears

[GolfDawg]

TV showed very little of the ejection. Was it about the close pitch called a ball or was it because of the guy who hit the hr beating his chest and showboating? That was excessive and he bumped Hancock

[Activated Alpha]

Wow

[msstate7]

We are the bad news bears

Our coach is a clown, so obviously we've become a circus

[R2Dawg]

Putting Holcomb in secured the L for us.

[msstate7]

Take this guy out

[Activated Alpha]

Wait why is no one warming up in the pen??

[magrooder]

He's done

[GolfDawg]

If they leave Holcombe in with the bases loaded Foxhall doesn?t have a brain

[msstate7]

Holcombe has no control of his emotion. He's a hot head that's D-O-N-E as soon as something goes wrong

[BeardoMSU]

....uh, why is nobody warning up in the pen? Lol, jesus...its almost like they're doing this on purpose.

[Cowbell]

Holcombe has no control of his emotion. He's a hot head that's D-O-N-E as soon as something goes wrong

Good coaching could settle him down. But what is that...

[magrooder]

this ump is screwing Holcombe

[GolfDawg]

Foxhall got luckyyyyy. Nice job by Holcombe to gut that out without any help from the defense.

[msstate7]

Holcombe has potential, but that kid needs a Xanax before the game

[Cowbell]

Our hitters better freaking respond

[EdwardDrayton]

Well let's see if we have any mettle at all

[Activated Alpha]

Our hitters better freaking respond

They will until we reach 2nd or 3rd then they will either strike out or pop up to the infield

[msstate7]

Good coaching could settle him down. But what is that...

Most of foxhall's meetings haven't worked this season, but he calmed Holcombe down there

[Activated Alpha]

Great hit Forsythe

[EdwardDrayton]

LaFo with the rip!!

[msstate7]

What a horrible AB. He tried to pull
Every pitch.

[Activated Alpha]

Oh look their 3B can make a routine play

[Activated Alpha]

They will until we reach 2nd or 3rd then they will either strike out or pop up to the infield

Yup. I knew it

[WSOPdawg]

They will until we reach 2nd or 3rd then they will either strike out or pop up to the infield

prophetic... Ledbetter popout to 2nd, Hines K's looking to strand a leadoff double

[R2Dawg]

Terrible at bats in bad moments and the errors done us in for this game.

[msstate7]

SC is acting a damn fool while beating us. This state team is done. Our coach is done. This program is done under lemonis

[EdwardDrayton]

We've been so focused on Foxhall and ERA but Geaut ain't exactly ringing the bell with run production either.

[msstate7]

We've been so focused on Foxhall and ERA but Geaut ain't exactly ringing the bell with run production either.

It makes no sense to blame the assistants. This is a lemonis issue.

[CaptainObvious]

Dang. I wish somebody had a necked pic of Lemonis humping a porpoise on a boat!

[CaptainObvious]

Messina got in Holcombe?s head and made him skeered of him. But it ended up being a successful walk for State.

[EdwardDrayton]

It makes no sense to blame the assistants. This is a lemonis issue.

Well 7, in my view, with Lemo not making a change after last weekend, he's hitched his fate to this staff. Now if they go, he goes with them.

[Activated Alpha]

We've been so focused on Foxhall and ERA but Geaut ain't exactly ringing the bell with run production either.

I'm not sure what is going on because Geaut has been able to get production out of our past teams, but this year we cannot find any runs during SEC. Is that on the coach or hitters?

[Activated Alpha]

I keep hearing Peterson say once we get our big arms back, we should be better? You mean Stinnett, Peterson? Because that's just like sprinkling cornflakes on a turd...

[msstate7]

Watching this team does nothing but bring me grief. MLB is back, so screw this crap... I'm out

[EdwardDrayton]

I'm not sure what is going on because Geaut has been able to get production out of our past teams, but this year we cannot find any runs during SEC. Is that on the coach or hitters?

Personally I see talent across the board both hitting and pitching. Soooooo. Defensively though our guys on the whole are not very good.

[Activated Alpha]

Personally I see talent across the board both hitting and pitching. Soooooo. Defensively though our guys on the whole are not very good.

But I refuse to believe that every pitcher we have faced has been phenomenal to keep our team under 7. At some point, we have to score those runners that are on 2nd or 3rd. That isn't on the coach, but on players

[Leroy Jenkins]

https://twitter.com/charliewinfield/status/1641607268260098049?s=46&t=DGtd-fTS2I8QetuRZ9flcA

[Activated Alpha]

Holcombe is done Foxhall

[Leroy Jenkins]

12 free base runners between walks, hbp, and errors.

[Quaoarsking]

Absolutely brutal insurance run for SC

[Leroy Jenkins]

Interesting coaching strategy conceding a 2 run game....

[Activated Alpha]

Oh look, we are leaving him in there......This is what needs to be a fireable offense

Ok, Holcombe gutted it out. Kinda proud of him

[magrooder]

My thinking exactly Leroy

[GolfDawg]

This coaching staff. Has Holcombe ever thrown this many meaningful innings? No. You trot him back out there in the ninth YOUVE GOT TO HAVE SOMEONE READY IF HE GETS IN TROUBLE.

Then he gets left in after two walks??? Idiotic. Fire everyone.

[WSOPdawg]

Holcombe is done Foxhall

I'm thinking Foxhall is "punishing" Holcombe for their argument last game. He has KC warm in the pen. Foxhall is trash!!!

[bulldogcountry1]

There is no defending leaving in Holcombe. This is just pure incompetence.

[mparkerfd20]

Walk onto the field and fire the piece of shit Foxhall right now.

[EdwardDrayton]

But I refuse to believe that every pitcher we have faced has been phenomenal to keep our team under 7. At some point, we have to score those runners that are on 2nd or 3rd. That isn't on the coach, but on players

At least a fair bit of that though is the hitters not taking the right approach in those situations. Are they getting coached properly or are they stubborn? Don't know.

[EdwardDrayton]

Usually that third run is significant statistically. But maybe not so much against us. Five was probably enough to beat us.

[Cowbell]

Atleast Holcomb seems to be manning up / hope he stays here for the next coaching staff

[EdwardDrayton]

Walk onto the field and fire the piece of shit Foxhall right now.

Thinking now we're in the end of season 'clean house' mode.

[magrooder]

Alford looks like he's trying to hit it in the SC dugout

[magrooder]

What a great at bat by Alford

[EdwardDrayton]

Now that's the kind of at bat we've needed. Outstanding.

[magrooder]

pfffffffffffffft

[EdwardDrayton]

$&@%#?!

[Commercecomet24]

Why did we not pinch hit? Holy crap! I said he'd hit into a dp and he did

[GolfDawg]

Not pinch hitting for Forsythe when we have big bats like Downs on the bench is yet another head scratcher. Good job coaching staff*

[Commercecomet24]

Chance on the bench and we let lane hit

[Commercecomet24]

Great hustle by Ledbetter!

[magrooder]

Way to hustle down the line Ledbetter

[Leroy Jenkins]

Could it be????

[magrooder]

Could it be????

no

[Commercecomet24]

That wasn't a strike

[Leroy Jenkins]

Damnit.

[mparkerfd20]

Horrible strike call

[Quaoarsking]

After a 40-20 start, Lemonis now 49-48 in the SEC.

[Activated Alpha]

Hasn't been a strike all night either

[magrooder]

I'm just glad we could contribute to south carolina's best start in their history* Thank you announcers for keeping us up to date on that all f'n night

[EdwardDrayton]

Chance on the bench and we let lane hit

^^^^^^^

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We competed better tonight. That’s a step forward.

[Commercecomet24]

Did y'all know lsu women's basketball coach is Kramer Robertson mom?

I thought we were done with those references smh

[Lord McBuckethead]

We did. Our coaching Fn sucks. Pitch hit for Lane and we probably win that game. Did our coaches tell Hines to go Downtown? Cause his approach at the plate was stupid. He couldn?t catch up to THAT guys fastball? Come on Hines.

[WSOPdawg]

Chance on the bench and we let lane hit

I remember Chance pulling up last game with the catch toward the foul line that made me think he may have tweaked a hamstring. But still NOT pinch hitting with Downs or someone else is almost criminal in that spot. I'll be so glad when we push these coaches out.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Chance on the bench and we let lane hit

I don’t believe Chance was dressed to play tonight. I could be wrong.

[Commercecomet24]

I remember Chance pulling up last game with the catch toward the foul line that made me think he may have tweaked a hamstring. But still NOT pinch hitting with Downs or someone else is almost criminal in that spot. I'll be so glad when we push these coaches out.

You're right I forgot about that. Anyone but lane there. I told me wife when he came up dp coming. Smh

[EdwardDrayton]

We competed better tonight. That’s a step forward.

Just hope we don't look back after three games and this was our best chance to win one.

[Commercecomet24]

I don’t believe Chance was dressed to play tonight. I could be wrong.

Yeah I forgot he tweaked something Tuesday night

[Commercecomet24]

By my count we've had a chance to win at least 3 sec games so far but we've left pitchers in too long. Oh well.

[tcdog70]

We have talent but they cannot execute baseball plays. Advancing runners is unknown to,our players. We can?t score runners from 3td. We cannot make accurate throws. We just aren?t very good.

[Activated Alpha]

Forsythe barreled one up his last AB so I can see why leaving him in there. Hines just had a horrible approach. But I feel like we left more runners in scoring position again this game. We cannot do that and expect to win.

[EdwardDrayton]

Just surreal that we are 0-7. WE ARE 0-7!! Damn.

[maroonmania]

By my count we've had a chance to win at least 3 sec games so far but we've left pitchers in too long. Oh well.

And we keep complaining about pitching and rightfully so but the offense is not helping the cause by any means. At this point we have only scored more than 5 runs once in 7 SEC games. Going to take a really well pitched game from us to have a chance to win one.

[CaptainObvious]

Can?t blame Forsythe. He had a leadoff double in his previous at bat and the so called stud 1-3 batters pussied out and left him there. Then with 1st and 3rd and no outs he hits the ball up the middle, but not hard enough to get through the SS and 2B who were positioned to squeeze the middle and actually play for the DP. But one of our 2 most famous SOLO HR hitters couldn?t touch the first 2 pitches and watched a breaking ball thrown perfectly over the inside corner. Because when the game is on the line, our power hitters little wieners run up in their throats and hide!

[Commercecomet24]

And we keep complaining about pitching and rightfully so but the offense is not helping the cause by any means. At this point we have only scored more than 5 runs once in 7 SEC games. Going to take a really well pitched game from us to have a chance to win one.

Yeah I agree we haven't been clutch at the plate, either but so many games
have gotten away from us early. It's definitely been a team effort lol

[maroonmania]

Yeah I agree we haven't been clutch at the plate, either but so many games
have gotten away from us early. It's definitely been a team effort lol

Yea, getting sick of the whole bunch. Gotro doesn't get a pass either.

[Commercecomet24]

Can?t blame Forsythe. He had a leadoff double in his previous at bat and the so called stud 1-3 batters pussied out and left him there. Then with 1st and 3rd and no outs he hits the ball up the middle, but not hard enough to get through the SS and 2B who were positioned to squeeze the middle and actually play for the DP. But one of our 2 most famous SOLO HR hitters couldn?t touch the first 2 pitches and watched a breaking ball thrown perfectly over the inside corner. Because when the game is on the line, our power hitters little wieners run up in their throats and hide!

Last pitch to Hines wasn't a breaking ball it was a 93mph fb and it wasn't a strike

[Activated Alpha]

At some point talent should negate shitty coaching in our losing streak of 18. I can see that we have pieces especially in our freshman, but I don?t see any talent in the upper class and no leaders. Talent doesn?t lose so many games in a row

[EdwardDrayton]

Last pitch to Hines wasn't a breaking ball it was a 93mph fb and it wasn't a strike

Did not see a replay but it seemed either up or in or both. Interesting that Hunter did not even think about offering so not a very close pitch.

[EdwardDrayton]

Last time we started 0-7. 1939. Ouch.

[Commercecomet24]

Did not see a replay but it seemed either up or in or both. Interesting that Hunter did not even think about offering so not a very close pitch.

It was both up and in. Just watched the replay. It was a pitch to get Hines to chase not thrown for a strike but got it anyways

[Commercecomet24]

Last time we started 0-7. 1939. Ouch.

So you're saying we're doing something historical?

[EdwardDrayton]

So you're saying we're doing something historical?

Ha. Unfortunately seems that way. But we had hope late in this game, something we haven't had. Let's carry it over to Friday and Saturday and get a win or two before we make history the wrong way.

[Offshore Dawg]

So you're saying we're doing something historical?

Historically bad unfortunately.

[Commercecomet24]

Ha. Unfortunately seems that way. But we had hope late in this game, something we haven't had. Let's carry it over to Friday and Saturday and get a win or two before we make history the wrong way.

Amen brother!

[Commercecomet24]

Historically bad unfortunately.

I don't drink but if I was a drinking man I would be drinking everytime we play an sec game

[maroonmania]

It was both up and in. Just watched the replay. It was a pitch to get Hines to chase not thrown for a strike but got it anyways

Not surprised, see it over and over in all sports. Bad teams routinely get bad calls from refs and umps.

[Commercecomet24]

Not surprised, see it over and over in all sports. Bad teams routinely get bad calls from refs and umps.

Yep when it's going bad it goes bad all
the way around

[SPMT]

After a 40-20 start, Lemonis now 49-48 in the SEC.

What changed?

Different players? Or

Lack of motivation from coaches?


I want to believe you can?t compile that early SEC record on talent alone. Has to be an element of coaching/managing.

[sandjunky]

Last pitch to Hines wasn't a breaking ball it was a 93mph fb and it wasn't a strike

Yep - two seam (sinker)
Started at front hip (but a little elevated) and ran it off the edge

Catcher did a good job I believe (need to watch again) in catching it deep and not trying to stick it

It was blue?s middle finger to Lemonis to end it

[msudawg1200]

We competed better tonight. That?s a step forward.

This is pretty sad that State baseball has come to this. "Well, we lost again, but hey, we competed better". I'm not taking a shot at you somebodyshotmypaw, I understand your thinking, but damn we are the Mississippi State Diamond Dawgs. It shouldn't come to this.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I want to hand the coaching staff one of those knives that Japanese soldiers used to stab themselves with and say "you know what to do" and just walk away.

[TNDawg35]

Anyone catch Gotros comments after the game. He did the coaches questions since Lemonis was thrown out and someone on Twitter made the comment that Gotro said if he was Lemonis he would have been a hell of a lot more irate after the missed strikeout and homer… could this monumental collapse be a little in house scuffle with the staff also? We all, and I’m sure Foxhall knows, he is gone at the end of the year. Could it go deeper with that?

[TNDawg35]

I want to hand the coaching staff one of those knives that Japanese soldiers used to stab themselves with and say "you know what to do" and just walk away.

They would miss their mid section high and away…

[Commercecomet24]

Yep - two seam (sinker)
Started at front hip (but a little elevated) and ran it off the edge

Catcher did a good job I believe (need to watch again) in catching it deep and not trying to stick it

It was blue?s middle finger to Lemonis to end it

Nailed it on all counts. He was trying to get Hines to chase and it got called anyways. Definitely the middle finger to Lemonis.

[KB21]

Amen brother!

This is the first game in a while where I think the players didn't let things completely unravel on them. In previous games, this would have been an 18-3 blowout. My biggest criticisms about this game is that we left Cinjtje in one inning too long, and we left Holcombe in one inning too long. The missed strike call was a difference maker, but there's a good chance you don't give up 2 runs in the 5th if you go ahead and bring Holcombe in then and not let Cinjtje go through the order a third time.