Poll on Lemonis

[Quaoarsking]

While it seems like the fanbase is pretty united against Lemonis, I think it would be useful to get a more scientific read on the opinions here. Feel free to post them, or to just answer the poll.

Zac Selmon, please take note no matter what the result is.

[parabrave]

When there is a loss of confidence on any leader in most situations they are relieved on the spot.

[Quaoarsking]

My vote is "Fire him immediately." He's clearly lost the team.

I have absolutely no confidence in him going forward. Even in the extremely unlikely event that we win the next 2 against Vanderbilt, the team is way too fundamentally bad to make me think he could build us back into Omaha contenders on a regular basis.

In another unlikely event, if he were to stay on and sneak us into the tournament this year at 12-18 or something, I would still say fire him, because I just don't have any faith in him to ever right this ship.

[ScoobaDawg]

Another year but Foxhall has to go..

[CaptainObvious]

Another year but Foxhall has to go..

Hell naw! I?d rather eat nails and spit screws than see another year of this cluster flock!!!!

[CaptainObvious]

There has to be a couple of Little League Dads and Team Moms in or near Starkville that can get more out of these American Legion AllStars than pissmonis can!!!

[Todd4State]

Another year but Foxhall has to go..

I think this is the right move but I would fire Foxhall after the weekend.

I understand why most want Lemonis gone at this time though.

[ScoobaDawg]

I think this is the right move but I would fire Foxhall after the weekend.

I understand why most want Lemonis gone at this time though.

Because we are FANs...fanatics.
You fire Lemon a month into the season, Good luck getting our freshman AD a couple of months into the job to hire a homerun hire to fire the guy who gave us our first NC in any sport.


This seasons gonna suck donkey d*ck. It's going to be rough...it's gonna suck.

[Mjoelner34]

I voted to let him finish the year but Foxhall has to go now. If he isn't gone by Monday, then Lemonis needs to be gone by Tuesday.
Sometimes a rudderless ship is better off than one being steered straight at an iceberg.

[Todd4State]

Because we are FANs...fanatics.
You fire Lemon a month into the season, Good luck getting our freshman AD a couple of months into the job to hire a homerun hire to fire the guy who gave us our first NC in any sport.


This seasons gonna suck donkey d*ck. It's going to be rough...it's gonna suck.

He might do better than Cohen honestly.

We hired Selmon to do this job. He needs to do what we hired him to do.

[bulldogcountry1]

It?s an impossible situation. I think the only way you fire Lemonis is if you specifically see issues in the clubhouse that have to be addressed immediately AND you have a reasonable solution to finish out the season. Polk isn?t a reasonable solution, btw. Otherwise, firing him isn?t going to do us any favors when it comes to finding the next coach.

I do think you have to make a change with Foxhall. I?m sure there is a short list of guys who can come in and just try to get back to some fundamentals and stop the bleeding.

[sandjunky]

Any reasonable person/coach can see this is a dumpster fire and not at MSU standards -you could let Jans finish out the season on the bench and it wouldn?t hurt hiring

Here?s the thing- our best players won?t be here next year anyway

[Ranchdawg]

1. Don?t remember giving up two grand slam home runs in one game.
2. Don?t remember losing by 26 runs.
3. Don?t remember losing 15 SEC games in a row.
4. Don?t remember being dead last in SEC for two years straight.
5. Don?t remember seeing so many walks hit by pitch.
6. Don?t remember having so many pitchers totally unprepared.
7. Don?t remember seeing so many errors and should be more but official scorer at the Dude is crazy.

Yes Foxhall deserves a large part of blame. But whole staff needs to be cleaned. Lemonis is 7th highest paid college baseball coach. What a joke of coaching job.

[Thick]

It?s a business, and business is very, very bad. I think you have to let Lemonis finish out the season, but Fox should be gone on Monday and phone calls should be made to gauge interest level for replacing CL at season?s end. We just need to brace for more embarrassment, and expect it!

[Dawgface]

Fire immediately. Screw him.

[BrunswickDawg]

I'm about the most patient MSU fan I know when it comes to letting coaches succeed or fail - and bucket boy has lost me. if we fire him Monday, so be it. Give Commerce the team, and let Polk advise and im pretty sure we would be better off

[civildawg]

You have to fire foxhall on Monday and Lemonis can coach for his job the rest of the season.

[TheLostDawg]

You have to fire foxhall on Monday and Lemonis can coach for his job the rest of the season.

How I feel.

[maroonmania]

I think the NC earns Lemonis the right to finish out the season. We wouldn't have a lot of options as an interim coach anyway. As far as Foxhall, I'm fine with him being let go at any time but Lemonis is going to have to decide what option he wants to tie his final fate to. If the type losses we've had the last 3 SEC games continue with anything close to regularity I would hope Lemonis would just resign anyway and admit he is in over his head with no real answers on getting the program back to where it should be.

[R2Dawg]

Obviously pitching is messed up - Foxall. You can fire him now and ride out year. Something must be done to send a message to everyone that this is unacceptable and leadership is going to act to right the ship. Can't let ride out way it is all year.

[SaintDawg]

I think that there is no right or wrong answer. Firing would send a message. Waiting till season end to fire also sends a message. There are merits and disadvantages to both actions, but the end result is the same. I say you cut out the infection now to save what is left of the body. If you wait, like a Lemonis pitching change, more damage can occur.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

1. Let the season play out. It doesnt do anything positive to fire him during season. Making Hoover should be minimum expectation to Lemonis keeping his job
2. Purcell needs to be putting together a list and be ready to make offers before Omaha if decision is made to fire Lemonis.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Firing Lemonis and Foxhall on Monday will show that we are a elite program and cannot tolerate poor performance within the program. Doing nothing sends the opposite signal. IMO. But I might be wrong. Hard call. But, it's a business after all.

[bulldogcountry1]

2. Purcell needs to be putting together a list and be ready to make offers before Omaha if decision is made to fire Lemonis.

Let the WBB coach pick the new baseball coach? Interesting idea. I like it!

[Quaoarsking]

Another reason not to wait is that what if we get a little better and finish like 11-19 and make Hoover, but not the NCAAs and we have a bunch of fans wanting to keep him because we improved on 2022 just a little bit?

If we keep him for 2024, we need significant turn around in the entire approach to the game. Just sneaking into Hoover or even the NCAA isn't enough.

[Activated Alpha]

We are 10th in the nation in striking out batters, but 263 out of 295 in walks allowed. There are SWAC teams that are better than us in that department. Foxhall is the one that needs to be fired immediately

[was21]

1. Let the season play out. It doesnt do anything positive to fire him during season. Making Hoover should be minimum expectation to Lemonis keeping his job
2. Purcell needs to be putting together a list and be ready to make offers before Omaha if decision is made to fire Lemonis.

Purcell???

[mparkerfd20]

Fire Foxhall immediately. Lemonis is a dead man walking so fire him too. If you don't NO PC will come knowing how hot his seat is.

[The Federalist Engineer]

We are 10th in the nation in striking out batters, but 263 out of 295 in walks allowed. There are SWAC teams that are better than us in that department. Foxhall is the one that needs to be fired immediately

That would be something that Lemonis can do to save himself. But these two boys are Thelma and Louise, they are going down as a Shakespearean pair..."If not to heaven then hand in hand to hell."

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[maroonmania]

Fire Foxhall immediately. Lemonis is a dead man walking so fire him too. If you don't NO PC will come knowing how hot his seat is.

So Gotro and Cheese gonna run the team by themselves? I don't know what purpose that serves. Much easier to fire a football coach mid-season when there is a ten man staff.

[Quaoarsking]

So Gotro and Cheese gonna run the team by themselves? I don't know what purpose that serves. Much easier to fire a football coach mid-season when there is a ten man staff.

Grad assistants can help too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Wow, I think Biden could beat these numbers with out fanbase.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Grad assistants can help too.

I can coach our team. Seriously.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Wow, I think Biden could beat these numbers with out fanbase.

I think only closet Ole Miss fans / Lurkers could support another season of Lemonis. What is happening right now is the potential End of the Program.

With the improvements in all other SEC programs, MSU could fall to 2010 status, in a blink of an eye.

[parabrave]

I think only closet Ole Miss fans / Lurkers could support another season of Lemonis. What is happening right now is the potential End of the Program.

With the improvements in all other SEC programs, MSU could fall to 2010 status, in a blink of an eye.

I hope people remember what a bad coach can do to a program. Remember Ellis Johnson??

[ScooterDog]

I saw a lot of empty seats last night. If that gets worse, surely it will get the ADs attention.

[Homedawg]

Grad assistants can help too.

There are no grad asst. they took those away 25 years ago

[HoopsDawg]

You 100% let the season play out. If we miss Hoover, you clean house. You can not fire him 2 weekends into SEC play. That's ridiculous. What's also ridiculous is giving him another year.

[EdwardDrayton]

We've played 23 games and there are 33 games left on the schedule if I counted correctly. Not at all sure there's a substantive reason to fire Lemo right now. And even if we did, who do we have that we really want as interim and what would that accomplish. Seemingly not anything.

Now firing Foxhall may have some merit. While we have many woes, pitching has been the top of the angst pyramid. Possible causes include (1) no talent (2) young talent not ready (which would include poor succession planning) (3) or poor development coaching. These all land on the pitching coach, maybe not exclusively but certainly squarely.
Seems clear Lemo could not do any worse taking it over. The big question is why hasn't he made the move.

If I'm Zac, I give Lemo the uitimatum, make the pitching move now or you're gone too.

Then let's see what can be done with these last 33 games.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Zac Selmon would be stupid to listen to this board. That?s because the same people who want to ?fire Lemonis now? are the same ones who wanted to give Lemonis a blank check and a lifetime contract less than 24 months ago.

Selmon needs to assess the situation and make the proper decisions for MSU and our program.

[Bothrops]

We need the extra time to locate and try to hire a coach so...