Couple of practice notes from yesterday

[Jarius]

1.) Lots of pistol formations. I know that people on here already expected that, but we are going to run it more and this formation will be a staple.
2.) Sloppy play offensively. We were off for all of spring break and this is a new offense. Not expected, but it was sloppy.
3.) Rogers has gained a little weight. Arm strength looked about the same but he did appear to be a little bit bigger
4.) Friend has some Hevesy in him on the field. He gets after their ass. Really like him as an OL coach. He's a much better recruiter than Hev, but on the field they are both......colorful....
5.) David Turner stayed on his group about effort. Once again, coming off of spring break this is normal. Gotta get everyone's minds right
6.) Robinson and Walley are currently starting on the outside with Tulu in the slot.
7.) Parson looks good for a freshman. Really excited about his future with us.
8.) Mosley is going to be a really good player for us. Looked really good.
9.) T. Williams looks like he could physically play in the NFL right now.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Pistol will make the run game 10x more effective. Defenses for the last 3 years knew that 9 times out of 10 if the back was on the right we were running it left. Pistol takes that away

[Cowbell]

Pistol will make the run game 10x more effective. Defenses for the last 3 years knew that 9 times out of 10 if the back was on the right we were running it left. Pistol takes that away

Agreed 100%

[TrapGame]

1.) Lots of pistol formations. I know that people on here already expected that, but we are going to run it more and this formation will be a staple.
2.) Sloppy play offensively. We were off for all of spring break and this is a new offense. Not expected, but it was sloppy.
3.) Rogers has gained a little weight. Arm strength looked about the same but he did appear to be a little bit bigger
4.) Friend has some Hevesy in him on the field. He gets after their ass. Really like him as an OL coach. He's a much better recruiter than Hev, but on the field they are both......colorful....
5.) David Turner stayed on his group about effort. Once again, coming off of spring break this is normal. Gotta get everyone's minds right
6.) Robinson and Walley are currently starting on the outside with Tulu in the slot.
7.) Parson looks good for a freshman. Really excited about his future with us.
8.) Mosley is going to be a really good player for us. Looked really good.
9.) T. Williams looks like he could physically play in the NFL right now.

I think we're going to see Will run it a little more than usual next season. I'm not talking Mike Vick but just enough to put some doubt in a defense. The pistol helps disguise that too.

[Commercecomet24]

Pistol will make the run game 10x more effective. Defenses for the last 3 years knew that 9 times out of 10 if the back was on the right we were running it left. Pistol takes that away

100%.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think we're going to see Will run it a little more than usual next season. I'm not talking Mike Vick but just enough to put some doubt in a defense. The pistol helps disguise that too.

I tend to believe that as well. I also think we'll have a package or two for Mike Wright. You can't let his athleticism sit on the sidelines.

[Commercecomet24]

If we can have a competent running game, it's going to make Will even better. With his accuracy and play action being effective and not having to carry all the burden himself, he could have a really special season.

[Commercecomet24]

I tend to believe that as well. I also think we'll have a package or two for Mike Wright. You can't let his athleticism sit on the sidelines.

I agree. I think Wright could be an effective slash type weapon for us.

[TrapGame]

If we can have a competent running game, it's going to make Will even better. With his accuracy and play action being effective and not having to carry all the burden himself, he could have a really special season.

I told KB the same thing. Will is going to look better in this offense. It's not squarely on his shoulders anymore. Arnett and this team may shock some folks in the college football world next season.

[Commercecomet24]

I told KB the same thing. Will is going to look better in this offense. It's not squarely on his shoulders anymore. Arnett and this team may shock some folks in the college football world next season.

Yes, Wills biggest strength is accuracy. With a competent running game and play action our receivers should be able to get more separation and space to work against man and especially against zone. Will should have much bigger windows to throw to, provided we can have a competent run game, which i see no reason that we won't because we ran it very effectively last season.

[TrapGame]

Yes, Wills biggest strength is accuracy. With a competent running game and play action our receivers should be able to get more separation and space to work against man and especially against zone. Will should have much bigger windows to throw to, provided we can have a competent run game, which i see no reason that we won't because we ran it very effectively last season.

They sure as hell won't be rushing 3 and dropping 8 anymore. When we used a RB as a FB to block on run plays it looked great. I expect to see us use the TE as a lead blocker on a lot of running plays with the same results. And with Will's accuracy he will tear man coverage up!

[Commercecomet24]

They sure as hell won't be rushing 3 and dropping 8 anymore. When we used a RB as a FB to block on run plays it looked great. I expect to see us use the TE as a lead blocker on a lot of running plays with the same results. And with Will's accuracy he will tear man coverage up!

Right! Will is smart and while he doesn't have a cannon he is extremely accurate and i expect him to have a great year in this offense. Play action will also give us some open looks on deeper patterns that wont require elite arm strength to stick it in a tight window downfield.

[DownwardDawg]

They sure as hell won't be rushing 3 and dropping 8 anymore. When we used a RB as a FB to block on run plays it looked great. I expect to see us use the TE as a lead blocker on a lot of running plays with the same results. And with Will's accuracy he will tear man coverage up!

Rep!!

[coachnorm]

Right! Will is smart and while he doesn't have a cannon he is extremely accurate and i expect him to have a great year in this offense. Play action will also give us some open looks on deeper patterns that wont require elite arm strength to stick it in a tight window downfield.

How can a quarterback be considered extremely accurate when a disproportionate amount of his passes are check downs, swing passes, and screen passes? How many quarterbacks would not be extremely accurate throwing like that?

[Commercecomet24]

How can a quarterback be considered extremely accurate when a disproportionate amount of his passes are check downs, swing passes, and screen passes? How many quarterbacks would not be extremely accurate throwing like that?

I'm not talking about completion pct. Will made a ton of throws that weren't the type of passes you just mentioned into extremely tight windows and put them where only our receivers could catch them. That's the throws I'm talking about not the passes you just mentioned.

[TrapGame]

I'm not talking about completion pct. Will made a ton of throws that weren't that passes you just mentioned into extremely tight windows and put them where only our receivers could catch them. That's the throws I'm talking about not the passes you just mentioned.

The Auburn game 2021 is an example. He hit Polk in double coverage more than once.

[Cowbell]

WILL has his issues but accuracy has never been one of them. Anybody claiming that he is not accurate doesn't understand the burden he's been having to carry throwing into eight-man coverage. Then when he was checking down, teams knew he was checking down and where it was going to. This will absolutely help him. He still gonna make mistakes, but this is going to free him up to have some fun back there. Just having a tight end alone is gonna make this more fun.

[Cowbell]

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[Commercecomet24]

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[parabrave]

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[BeardoMSU]

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[BuckyIsAB****]

How can a quarterback be considered extremely accurate when a disproportionate amount of his passes are check downs, swing passes, and screen passes? How many quarterbacks would not be extremely accurate throwing like that?

His completion percentage is higher on balls 20 yards down the field than anyone else in our history just about.

[BuckyIsAB****]

And you can sit there and say all he had to do was throw swing routes, well the difference in that swing route being a good play and a no gain is the QBs accuracy and the back being able to make one miss. I never understood the hate for the swings. The defenses took everything else away. If it was a read option or a the veer and we gave the dive for 4 yards people on here would have fainted in the aisles at Davis Wade

[BuckyIsAB****]

WILL has his issues but accuracy has never been one of them. Anybody claiming that he is not accurate doesn't understand the burden he's been having to carry throwing into eight-man coverage. Then when he was checking down, teams knew he was checking down and where it was going to. This will absolutely help him. He still gonna make mistakes, but this is going to free him up to have some fun back there. Just having a tight end alone is gonna make this more fun.

Will has ran RPOs more than he has true air raid. It?s why Moorhead wanted him

[DownwardDawg]

Right! Will is smart and while he doesn't have a cannon he is extremely accurate and i expect him to have a great year in this offense. Play action will also give us some open looks on deeper patterns that wont require elite arm strength to stick it in a tight window downfield.

Absolutely!!

[dawgday166]

And you can sit there and say all he had to do was throw swing routes, well the difference in that swing route being a good play and a no gain is the QBs accuracy and the back being able to make one miss. I never understood the hate for the swings. The defenses took everything else away. If it was a read option or a the veer and we gave the dive for 4 yards people on here would have fainted in the aisles at Davis Wade

I agree. Last year tho Will turned RBs around 360 degrees much more frequently than should've been the case IMO. And it would kill their forward momentum and ability to make defenders miss. Completion % was still high tho.

Maybe the new offense will help Will feel more comfortable in the pocket this year.

[SpaceBully]

They let you watch? The way Zach has operated so far, I figured just about every practice would be closed. All our opponents are dying to see what we're gonna run post Leach.

[SpaceBully]

NT

[Goldendawg]

I think we're going to see Will run it a little more than usual next season. I'm not talking Mike Vick but just enough to put some doubt in a defense. The pistol helps disguise that too.

Please make sure the running play on the goal line with Will against OM last year is not in the new playbook!***** Seriously, looking forward to seeing the new O. Hail State!

[Goldendawg]

They let you watch? The way Zach has operated so far, I figured just about every practice would be closed. All our opponents are dying to see what we're gonna run post Leach.

He put on the "Peeping Croom" disguise and hide on the top of the Palmerio Building with a great pair of binoculars!*****.

[Todd4State]

And you can sit there and say all he had to do was throw swing routes, well the difference in that swing route being a good play and a no gain is the QBs accuracy and the back being able to make one miss. I never understood the hate for the swings. The defenses took everything else away. If it was a read option or a the veer and we gave the dive for 4 yards people on here would have fainted in the aisles at Davis Wade

It's Mississippi State fans we're talking about.

They seriously asked Barbay if he runs QB sneaks with the QB under the center.

I'm sure they'll latch onto something that they don't like about Barbay.

[Todd4State]

They sure as hell won't be rushing 3 and dropping 8 anymore. When we used a RB as a FB to block on run plays it looked great. I expect to see us use the TE as a lead blocker on a lot of running plays with the same results. And with Will's accuracy he will tear man coverage up!

Sounds good on paper. However, Will is also going to have to read different defenses and teams are going to blitz him a lot more.

He's also going to have to make decisions a lot more quickly and he's a QB that likes to check it down instead of force it- which is not a bad thing.

Usually these things even themselves out in the long run.

[BlackSailsDawg]

If we can have a competent running game, it's going to make Will even better. With his accuracy and play action being effective and not having to carry all the burden himself, he could have a really special season.

Keep in mind that it's not all on the QB's shoulders... well arm. We have seen enough QBs at MSU to know that we can have an above average QB but only complete 54% in passing due to lack of training at WR and effective route running... which means a loaded box.


Look at Shrader for the example. Or Fitz. Shrader was a 57% passer here but 65% at his new home. Fitz was a 51% passer.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We all hope our running game is better and more effective at taking some of the pressure off Will. We all also hope Will can exploit some defenses and take full advantage that the new offense is going to provide. Play action, some RPO. Whatever it is, we all hope Will takes advantage and really has the best break out year any SEC QB has ever had.

I really hope him and all others make the plays needed to win.

[Jarius]

They let you watch? The way Zach has operated so far, I figured just about every practice would be closed. All our opponents are dying to see what we're gonna run post Leach.

No practice is closed to everyone. Media won't have as much access any more.

[confucius say]

Yes, Wills biggest strength is accuracy. With a competent running game and play action our receivers should be able to get more separation and space to work against man and especially against zone. Will should have much bigger windows to throw to, provided we can have a competent run game, which i see no reason that we won't because we ran it very effectively last season.

Lack of arm strength a concern?

[StarkVegasSteve]

No practice is closed to everyone. Media won't have as much access any more.

Media has the same access they've had under every coach. The first 3-5 practices they'll let them watch all of practice and once they start getting into heavy install stuff they'll be limited to the first 20 minutes. Once the season begins practice will be completely closed generally. That's how it was under Mullen and Leach. Moorhead may have had a more lax approach with the media because he was trying to be friends with them.

[Jarius]

Media has the same access they've had under every coach. The first 3-5 practices they'll let them watch all of practice and once they start getting into heavy install stuff they'll be limited to the first 20 minutes. Once the season begins practice will be completely closed generally. That's how it was under Mullen and Leach. Moorhead may have had a more lax approach with the media because he was trying to be friends with them.

Nope. Media got full access under Leach. Paul had notes from every spring practice and fall camp leading up to game week. Now they only get the first 20 minutes of practice since full gear got put on.

[Commercecomet24]

Lack of arm strength a concern?

I mentioned in a separate post in this thread that a competent run game and play action will create bigger windows to throw to and more separation for the receivers and it will help a qb who doesn't have elite arm strength(will).

[confucius say]

I know how much Barbay has talked about stretching the field vertically, and I just think that will be tough for will.

[Commercecomet24]

I know how much Barbay has talked about stretching the field vertically, and I just think that will be tough for will.

Will can throw it far enough. He doesn't have to throw it 65 yards. And IF the run game and play action is effective then he will have more space to throw verticals in that wont require elite arm strength. Lot of ifs here I know lol.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Again he has a very good completion percentage for throws further than 20 yards. He can throw it fine.

[Commercecomet24]

Again he has a very good completion percentage for throws further than 20 yards. He can throw it fine.

Yeah and I believe this new offense will make him even better by taking some pressure off of him having to carry the offense. I think will and the team could have a special season. It costs nothing to be optimistic lol

[DownwardDawg]

Yeah and I believe this new offense will make him even better by taking some pressure off of him having to carry the offense. I think will and the team could have a special season. It costs nothing to be optimistic lol
Agreed. I think this offense will be good for Will.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It is going to be really tough for Will, because he cannot throw the ball 50 yards with some zip or big air.

[Todd4State]

It is going to be really tough for Will, because he cannot throw the ball 50 yards with some zip or big air.

I'm not sold on our running game for this offense this year to be honest with you. Marks is injury prone, Price had surgery this offseason, and then Pittman is behind them.

There's a reason why they were begging Dillion Johnson to come back.

[bulldawg28]

It is going to be really tough for Will, because he cannot throw the ball 50 yards with some zip or big air.

50 yards in the air? That's tough for any Qb with accuracy. Play action for a deep pass doesn't really require a super strong arm. They're throwing it to a spot timely or throwing them to the open spot. If you're talking a drop back then it's a different scenario.

[EdwardDrayton]

We never seem to be either very concerned about QB succession planning or very good at it. What happens if Will does not pan out in this offense. Seemingly we haven't had an heir apparent these last few years or now.

[Commercecomet24]

50 yards in the air? That's tough for any Qb with accuracy. Play action for a deep pass doesn't really require a super strong arm. They're throwing it to a spot timely or throwing them to the open spot. If you're talking a drop back then it's a different scenario.

This. Right on.

[Cowbell]

We never seem to be either very concerned about QB succession planning or very good at it. What happens if Will does not pan out in this offense. Seemingly we haven't had an heir apparent these last few years or now.
That's why we took Mike Wright as a transfer

[BuckyIsAB****]

Pittman is going to be a player

[Commercecomet24]

Pittman is going to be a player

Yeah he is! He's tough and runs hard.