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MoreCowbell
03-14-2023, 10:46 PM
Posted this in another thread posing the question: Would you rather have an NIT Championship or make NCAAT but lose in play-in game?

My gameplay prediction was off but the feeling and what will follow I nailed.

Also, pretty funny that it was SlingTV (that I had to subscribe to in order to get TruTV) and not FuboTV that no lie froze just as predicted. But opposite
Of what I said, it came back on and startes working we were up 5-0

Post:

6 weeks of enjoyment watching this team kick ass, culminating with a trip to MSG where I get to watch them cut down nets and have the media and country talk about how we got screwed and would have done some damage in the NCAAT

VS

Having totally convinced myself we were going to win and make some noise in the tourney, I get up at 8:00am for an 11am tip-off, having not been able to sleep because of the uncontrollable excitement I had for our first tourney appearance in 5 years.

I dig in my closet and put on my unwashed Miss State lucky shirt. I turn on the TV to watch game but the channel picture is frozen due to buffering issues on my FuboTV. The frozen picture shows us having gotten the tip, 3 seconds of game time have elapsed and score is 0-0.

After 5 minutes of plugging and unplugging my Wi-Fi router, the buffer finishes loading just in time for me to see the beginning of an epic WAMSU moment as our opponents center banks in a 3 as shot clock expires to put them up 26-11 with 12 minutes to go in 1st half.

Only down 10 after 4 straight scoring possessions to end the 1st half I convince myself that we got this. With 3 minutes left in the game, down by 16, having watched our #7 defense give up 85 points on 70% shooting, 45% from 3, losing turnover and rebound battle, I break my TV in anger when Tolu fouls out on a moving screen out near the 3 point line in what ends up being a double digit loss to Dayton in a ****ing play-in game.

Pissed off and unable to get out of bed for a week, the sobs into my pillow eventually turn into anger and resentment that stays with me through the off-season and carry?s into the 2024 season, resulting in a half-glass empty negative outlook towards any and all adversity we face.

I start numerous Fire Jans threads after every loss and single digit wins. I no longer watch Quadrant 3 or 4 opponent games unless I see we are losing and then I will hop on Elitedawgs just to make sure the tone of the game thread is as negative as possible.


I cannot remember the last time I was this angry over a Mississippi State loss.

Maroonthirteen
03-14-2023, 10:53 PM
Logic is flawed. This assumes we would kick ass in the nit. Big assumption. Pitt was a "bubble team". Pretty much what the nit field is made of... especially past round one.

BuckyIsAB****
03-14-2023, 10:54 PM
Pitt is not great. They won?t win another one I?d bet. Jans did as good of a job as I have seen here coaching

Maroonthirteen
03-14-2023, 11:01 PM
Btw. I'm sure everyone will argue we made the ncaas. But this felt very NITish.

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 04:42 AM
Logic is flawed. This assumes we would kick ass in the nit. Big assumption. Pitt was a "bubble team". Pretty much what the nit field is made of... especially past round one.

Reread post. Question was if you would rather us win the NIT championship (so kick ass) or lose in the play in game. Post was made prior to NCAAT selection. I said Dayton because it was the perfect school to use as an example (like Liberty). The post was funny and unfortunately ended up hitting home.

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 04:43 AM
Btw. I'm sure everyone will argue we made the ncaas. But this felt very NITish.

Agree, as far as I am concerned the field of 64 is the goal.

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 04:45 AM
Pitt is not great. They won?t win another one I?d bet. Jans did as good of a job as I have seen here coaching

I know. We were bigger, taller, longer, faster, stronger and way more athletic and we got punked by a team we should have beaten by double digits. Great season but very disappointed in tonight. We had no business losing that game.

basedog
03-15-2023, 08:08 AM
I know. We were bigger, taller, longer, faster, stronger and way more athletic and we got punked by a team we should have beaten by double digits. Great season but very disappointed in tonight. We had no business losing that game.

I disagree with "got punked by a team we should have beaten by double digits". Pitt was very athletic; did you not see they only had 6 turnovers while spreading the floor and them driving to the basket and they guarded inside very while. Damn some of you guys don't understand the game.

Give them credit, we are not much of a threat shooting outside, for what we accomplished this year is amazing.

662dawg
03-15-2023, 09:06 AM
I know. We were bigger, taller, longer, faster, stronger and way more athletic and we got punked by a team we should have beaten by double digits. Great season but very disappointed in tonight. We had no business losing that game.

Man what game was you watching? They were better at every position on the court except the 5 & Tolu brought his C game. Pretty sure they even have the Big East 6th man of the year, Matthews didn't even show up & Shak missed three 3's with no one even within 10' of him. We should have lost that game by 10-12 points & somehow found a way to be in it til the last shot of the game.

662dawg
03-15-2023, 09:07 AM
I disagree with "got punked by a team we should have beaten by double digits". Pitt was very athletic; did you not see they only had 6 turnovers while spreading the floor and them driving to the basket and they guarded inside very while. Damn some of you guys don't understand the game.

Give them credit, we are not much of a threat shooting outside, for what we accomplished this year is amazing.

Some of them watched a totally different game than you & I did. Lol

GoDawgz
03-15-2023, 09:19 AM
With the way Pitt shoots the 3 they are a danger to any team in the tourney and they will not play another team that plays defense like State. They have 4 legit 3 point shooters,
State's weakness was no consistent perimeter shooters to keep them from sagging 3 back on Tolu.

basedog
03-15-2023, 09:30 AM
Some of them watched a totally different game than you & I did. Lol

No doubt. Two things with spreading the floor against a good defensive team. One it gives them a chance to drive, plus spreading the floor stops double teaming, passes have to be on the money which they were. Pitt plays pretty good basketball, I wish we had that 7-footer.

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 09:45 AM
I disagree with "got punked by a team we should have beaten by double digits". Pitt was very athletic; did you not see they only had 6 turnovers while spreading the floor and them driving to the basket and they guarded inside very while. Damn some of you guys don't understand the game.

Give them credit, we are not much of a threat shooting outside, for what we accomplished this year is amazing.

Ha if you only knew, I understand the game just fine. Let us go over what I said. Bigger? Absolutely. Taller? Undeniable. Longer? Check. Faster? Honestly have no clue but would put money on us. Stronger? No question. More athletic? Well, you can argue all you want but having the advantage in a minimum of 4 of those 5 categories lends itself to believe we are much more athletic.

Pitt had the advantage where it really counts, shooting.

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 09:47 AM
Some of them watched a totally different game than you & I did. Lol

No I just think there are a few of you who either cannot read or comprehend the words you can make out. That Delta education I guess.

BuckyIsAB****
03-15-2023, 09:49 AM
Pitt is more talented than us

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 09:49 AM
No doubt. Two things with spreading the floor against a good defensive team. One it gives them a chance to drive, plus spreading the floor stops double teaming, passes have to be on the money which they were. Pitt plays pretty good basketball, I wish we had that 7-footer.

You are equating basketball execution and IQ to athleticism which has nothing to do with what I said. Either stay on topic or do not comment

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 09:50 AM
Pitt is more talented than us

Define talented. What you mean is they are better shooters. Nothing I said is incorrect

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 10:03 AM
Man what game was you watching? They were better at every position on the court except the 5 & Tolu brought his C game. Pretty sure they even have the Big East 6th man of the year, Matthews didn't even show up & Shak missed three 3's with no one even within 10' of him. We should have lost that game by 10-12 points & somehow found a way to be in it til the last shot of the game.

Literally the only stat where we did not dominate was 3 point shooting. They were 47.4 9of19 we were 6of23. We almost doubled them up in rebounds, had 3 more field goals and same fg percentage, we had better FT percentage even though we made 4 less and attempted 8 less, had more assists.

They beat us by 1 because they made 3 more 3s than we did, 4 more FTs on 8 more chances, and we were not safe with the ball. And our best player got punked by an anorexic freshman.

When you double up someone on rebounds and almost have more offensive rebounds than they had defensive, the game should not be close.

basedog
03-15-2023, 10:12 AM
You are equating basketball execution and IQ to athleticism which has nothing to do with what I said. Either stay on topic or do not comment

U asking me to not post is funny. But carry on, I have been on the sideline coaching and I think I know talent.

MoreCowbell
03-15-2023, 10:15 AM
U asking me to not post is funny. But carry on, I have been on the sideline coaching and I think I know talent.

Coached college ball myself. Did your middle school team win championship?

basedog
03-15-2023, 10:36 AM
Coached college ball myself. Did your middle school team win championship?

LOL.

662dawg
03-15-2023, 10:43 AM
With the way Pitt shoots the 3 they are a danger to any team in the tourney and they will not play another team that plays defense like State. They have 4 legit 3 point shooters,
State's weakness was no consistent perimeter shooters to keep them from sagging 3 back on Tolu.

I have them beating Iowa St & Xavier in my bracket.

Captain Falcon
03-15-2023, 10:44 AM
One and done is better than the NIT ten times out of ten. And yes, losing last night still counts as being in the NCAA Tournament. Don?t know why anyone would want to sell ourselves short on what was a season that greatly exceeded expectations.

662dawg
03-15-2023, 10:47 AM
Coached college ball myself. Did your middle school team win championship?

This may be the reason it's "coached" & not "coaching"... But carry on, sir!

PGHBulldogBG
03-15-2023, 10:58 AM
One and done is better than the NIT ten times out of ten. And yes, losing last night still counts as being in the NCAA Tournament. Don?t know why anyone would want to sell ourselves short on what was a season that greatly exceeded expectations.

Because most of our fans don’t really care about basketball or understand it. I wish our fans put as much enthusiasm into basketball as they do for baseball

Homedawg
03-15-2023, 11:32 AM
Because most of our fans don’t really care about basketball or understand it. I wish our fans put as much enthusiasm into basketball as they do for baseball

If our success matched our baseball success. We would support it. Women's hoops proved that. Nobody ever use to go to those games. Put a contender on the floor and guess what, fills up. Clearly our support in men's hoops this year was way better than the previous few years.

Offshore Dawg
03-15-2023, 11:36 AM
those that performed 1 and done in the NCAA Vs. a run in the nit got their wish.

msstate7
03-15-2023, 11:41 AM
I have them beating Iowa St & Xavier in my bracket.

Be real, man... you had state beating Iowa st and Xavier

Haha

msstate7
03-15-2023, 11:42 AM
those that performed 1 and done in the NCAA Vs. a run in the nit got their wish.

Wouldn't trade a loss like night for an NIT win last night.

662dawg
03-15-2023, 01:42 PM
Be real, man... you had state beating Iowa st and Xavier

Haha

If they shoot like they did against us it's as realistic as you can get. Even if they don't they are plenty talented enough to beat either Iowa St or Xavier. I always thought Iowa St would have been an easier game for us than Pitt.