2nd practice interviews. Arnett and Coordinators.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Sounds like Barbay has been reading the message boards at the 8:50 mark.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOKADzITfrs

[parabrave]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

[Commercecomet24]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

I'm gonna say......YEAH

[TheLostDawg]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

I use to get on here multiple times a day. Lately it's been maybe a few times a week because of that very reason

[LibraryDawg]

I use to get on here multiple times a day. Lately it's been maybe a few times a week because of that very reason

Rep given! I agree wholeheartedly!

[Todd4State]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

[dawgday166]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

I agree with you Todd.

[ZedFedder]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

I?m interested to see, too, Todd. One thing that gives me hope is that him being adaptive was part of why Arnett hired him. I feel Arnett will hold him accountable to it.

[Commercecomet24]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

Agreed.

[GoDawgz]

Whats the injury that Smith has?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Whats the injury that Smith has?

Had surgery. Labrum repair.

[HancockCountyDog]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

I don't know many coaches that evolve quickly. Saban tried to get rid of the up tempo offenses, until he realized he could go up tempo better than anyone and that it makes the game longer, which is better for his team.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

A good indicator is how he used playmakers totally diff at Central Michigan & App St.

The run/pass ratio wasn’t a huge difference. App St 30 passes & 40 runs & CMU 35 passes & 40 runs.

At App St he had 4 RB’s who rushed for almost 400yds & he didn’t have 1 person catch 40 passes. At CMU he had 1 RB rush for 1800yds & also had 4 guys catch at least 40 passes. His offense was efficient & explosive at both places even though they done it in diff ways.

[Commercecomet24]

A good indicator is how he used playmakers totally diff at Central Michigan & App St.

The run/pass ratio wasn’t a huge difference. App St 30 passes & 40 runs & CMU 35 passes & 40 runs.

At App St he had 4 RB’s who rushed for almost 400yds & he didn’t have 1 person catch 40 passes. At CMU he had 1 RB rush for 1800yds & also had 4 guys catch at least 40 passes. His offense was efficient & explosive at both places even though they done it in diff ways.

Ah, the voice of reason! Thank you!

[Coursesuper]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

Absolutely, and I'm becoming more and more convinced that KBdipshit is actually Rosey.

[Lord McBuckethead]

A good indicator is how he used playmakers totally diff at Central Michigan & App St.

The run/pass ratio wasn’t a huge difference. App St 30 passes & 40 runs & CMU 35 passes & 40 runs.

At App St he had 4 RB’s who rushed for almost 400yds & he didn’t have 1 person catch 40 passes. At CMU he had 1 RB rush for 1800yds & also had 4 guys catch at least 40 passes. His offense was efficient & explosive at both places even though they done it in diff ways.

I have to admit, when we blew up our Air Raid offense, I basically just said WTF as I was one that thought by keeping Arnett we would have tried to keep the AR system in place with Leach's guys. I know next to nothing about what this App State guy brings to the table and are really looking forward to seeing it in action this spring.
Are spring practices open to the public?

[Commercecomet24]

Absolutely, and I'm becoming more and more convinced that KBdipshit is actually Rosey.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Coursesuper again.

[PMDawg]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

And that is fair and logical. Tons of State fans probably feel the same way, or very close to it.

[TNDawg35]

Absolutely, and I'm becoming more and more convinced that KBdipshit is actually Rosey.

This comment is being brought to you by Bulldog Burger Co. where the cool kids go to meat. MEAT…

[Patrick Tibbons]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

I don?t blame KB21 anymore. He is who he is. I blame everyone who replies to him. At this point, you know what his replies are going to be, so there is no need to engage him.

[DownwardDawg]

I use to get on here multiple times a day. Lately it's been maybe a few times a week because of that very reason

Yep. Same. Even with having him on the ignore list I see all the replies to him. Kills the board.

[NCDawg]

Arnett seems to be very concerned about his DB's-particularly his safety players. He said they aren't close to being ready to play yet.

[DownwardDawg]

Obviously whatever he runs he will run but my only ask as a fan is that he at least adapts to the personnel that we have on the current roster until he gets players that fit what he wants to do.

Yes I know he has said that he will adapt but so have other MSU coaches in the past. So until I actually see it I'm going to be skeptical.

Dan adapted when he got here. He's the only coach other than JWS that actually did that.

[RockyDog]

Dan adapted when he got here. He's the only coach other than JWS that actually did that.

Yep. What everyone forgets, including KB is that we have actual legit talent on the offensive side of the ball now. We didn?t have that until Dan developed his program.

We are a long long way from Michael Henig, Wes Carroll, and Tyson Lee with no backups at the QB position.

[DownwardDawg]

Yep. What everyone forgets, including KB is that we have actual legit talent on the offensive side of the ball now. We didn?t have that until Dan developed his program.

We are a long long way from Michael Henig, Wes Carroll, and Tyson Lee with no backups at the QB position.

Absolutely!!

[Tripp McNeely]

Yep. Same. Even with having him on the ignore list I see all the replies to him. Kills the board.

This^^^ I guess that the mods don't care that they're probably losing posters

[KB21]

This^^^ I guess that the mods don't care that they're probably losing posters

Yeah. I guess the endless Mike Leach criticism and fabrications on here and other boards were fine, but not going along with the group think ideology that is currently in play over Barbay is something that is just terrible.

[Really Clark?]

https://y.yarn.co/2df24b97-2cfc-4408-9ce9-2d2e01509fea_text.gif

[Goldendawg]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

KB joined in Sept, 2013. He had made 71 posts before we hired Barbay. The other 1802 have bashed the proposed new offense.****

[Tripp McNeely]

Yeah. I guess the endless Mike Leach criticism and fabrications on here and other boards were fine, but not going along with the group think ideology that is currently in play over Barbay is something that is just terrible.

...or just maybe comment on something/anything else? Did you really get banned from GP, or did another poster just make that up?

[KB21]

...or just maybe comment on something/anything else? Did you really get banned from GP, or did another poster just make that up?

Which time?

[parabrave]

KB joined in Sept, 2013. He had made 71 posts before we hired Barbay. The other 1802 have bashed the proposed new offense.****

Yep He came over from GP./ He probably got thrown out of there for being the Troll that he is.

[KB21]

Yep He came over from GP./ He probably got thrown out of there for being the Troll that he is.

Once again, calling someone a troll when they don't go along with the groupthink.

[Coursesuper]

KB joined in Sept, 2013. He had made 71 posts before we hired Barbay. The other 1802 have bashed the proposed new offense.****

I'm telling y'all this KBshitforbrains is Rosey, he's pissed that his pecker got smacked during the Bobo debacle and he's here now trying to wreck the board.

[yjnkdawg]

A troll on a message board is one who is an attention seeker and posts negative or controversial posts to get that attention they so desperately need. If you don't feed a troll, by arguing or responding to their post, then that member can't stand being ignored so he/she will disappear and go worry another message board (GP to ED). I think the number of posts KB had made here since he joined prior to the Barbay hire and his posts since then tell the whole story. As I have said in the past, concerning this, a revised old Chinese proverb says don't feed the trolls and they will go away.

[yjnkdawg]

I'm telling y'all this KBshitforbrains is Rosey, he's pissed that his pecker got smacked during the Bobo debacle and he's here now trying to wreck the board.

Could be or it could be he is just in his little fantasy world and think there are actual head coaches out there who run the 100% AR like CML did, or he just wants attention. My guess would be the attention. Nothing our HC or offensive coaches say about our offense is going to please him, and that is money you can take to the bank.

[yjnkdawg]

so does this turn into another 10 page thread with kb21 beating a dead horse.

If members respond to his comments it will be and if they don't then he will become silent because he has no one to argue with.

[GoDawgz]

Had surgery. Labrum repair.

Ouch, thanks.

[NCDawg]

I thought this was supposed to be a thread talking about what Arnett said about the football team-not about KB21.

[Cowbell]

Absolutely, and I'm becoming more and more convinced that KBdipshit is actually Rosey.

Did you know that Rosey and Leach were kindred spirits***

[Jack Lambert]

What's a OTA?

[Cooterpoot]

Thank god we got away from that Leach Air Raid crap. It was great that one time at LSU.

[Leroy Jenkins]

What's a OTA?

Organized Team Activities. Practices that aren't full blown practices.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If we dont have any WRs that can separate we are gonna just be trading one problem for another. Safety is a concern. They have to be really really good in this defense. Was a big problem in 20 and an issue in 21

[Todd4State]

If we dont have any WRs that can separate we are gonna just be trading one problem for another. Safety is a concern. They have to be really really good in this defense. Was a big problem in 20 and an issue in 21

I'm optimistic that Robinson and Roberson will be able to. And I like Tulu in the slot. It fits his skill set better.

[Homedawg]

If we dont have any WRs that can separate we are gonna just be trading one problem for another. Safety is a concern. They have to be really really good in this defense. Was a big problem in 20 and an issue in 21

The last wr we had that created separation was Eric moulds. He was a first rounder.

[Todd4State]

The last wr we had that created separation was Eric moulds. He was a first rounder.

Yeah. Literally jumping over everyone is one way to get separation for sure. No telling how many times he saved Derrick Taite.

[bulldawg28]

If we dont have any WRs that can separate we are gonna just be trading one problem for another. Safety is a concern. They have to be really really good in this defense. Was a big problem in 20 and an issue in 21

Are we changing the defense? Or are you speaking to the fact of all the safeties are asked to do under Arnett's defense. With the quality corners we have I was hoping we'd play 3 corners instead of 3 safeties. I'm tired of watching safeties lined up on WR's in the slot getting toasted.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Are we changing the defense? Or are you speaking to the fact of all the safeties are asked to do under Arnett's defense. With the quality corners we have I was hoping we'd play 3 corners instead of 3 safeties. I'm tired of watching safeties lined up on WR's in the slot getting toasted.

100 percent agree. They are asked to do a lot, they have to be really really good. But we arent gonna put another corner out there. Or we havent get in 3 years

[Dawgface]

I tried sneaking a peek the other day at practice but all I could see was a damn cloud of dust.

[Cowbell]

If we dont have any WRs that can separate we are gonna just be trading one problem for another. Safety is a concern. They have to be really really good in this defense. Was a big problem in 20 and an issue in 21

If we don't have a QB that can tuck the ball and take the open field when it's given we are also going to have problems.

[Cowbell]

I tried sneaking a peek the other day at practice but all I could see was a damn cloud of dust.
This wins the internet today....

[Cowbell]

The last wr we had that created separation was Eric moulds. He was a first rounder.

Bucky has to set up his narrative to defend Will. He hates on WR more than anyone on this board.

[parabrave]

I tried sneaking a peek the other day at practice but all I could see was a damn cloud of dust.

Good one. Or you saw the leather helmets flying.

[parabrave]

KBs worst nightmare

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or

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[Schultzy]

I tried sneaking a peek the other day at practice but all I could see was a damn cloud of dust.

file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/78/08/08D40342-A74C-43A4-B006-DFC860B4D9C3/tmp.gif

Crap never mind

[dawgday166]

Bucky has to set up his narrative to defend Will. He hates on WR more than anyone on this board.

I'm not concerned with the offense. We had open downfield WRs a good bit last year, but the short crossing mesh and RB flares were better options cause they were open much quicker.

This year we have a TON of experience with good depth returning. We have road graders for an Oline. We have 4-year starter Tom Brady returning. We finally got rid of Leach's antiquated AR system. This year we'll have much more creative play calling and an unstoppable running game, all creating innumerable play action opportunities, easily opening up receivers all over the place. I can see us averaging about 40pts/game against SEC only competition, which is along the lines of what TN/Bama/GA averaged last year.

So ... Even if the safety inexperience costs the D a few too many pts in 2 or 3 or so games, we should just outscore everyone.

No excuse for less than 10-2 and probably should win SECW.

[Commercecomet24]

I tried sneaking a peek the other day at practice but all I could see was a damn cloud of dust.

Dude that is awesome!

[gtowndawg]

I tried sneaking a peek the other day at practice but all I could see was a damn cloud of dust.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1200,h_600,c_limit,f_jpg,q_auto:good,fl_progress ive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F fccfc3dc-617d-4798-ab4a-9b67308153d6_1884x638.png

[Commercecomet24]

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That's what our new offense is gonna look like, lol!

[msu15]

That's what our new offense is gonna look like, lol!

Hey, if we're able to do it up and down the field and the other team can't stop it, I'm down. Dominating the line of scrimmage=wins.

[Commercecomet24]

Hey, if we're able to do it up and down the field and the other team can't stop it, I'm down. Dominating the line of scrimmage=wins.

Yep for sure! Just win baby!

[KB21]

https://twitter.com/stanbedwell/status/1633263894901686272?s=46&t=boMwTsd5d1vappV0mJtn8g

I hope Barbay went to this so he could learn about a real passing offense.

[Homedawg]

https://twitter.com/stanbedwell/status/1633263894901686272?s=46&t=boMwTsd5d1vappV0mJtn8g

I hope Barbay went to this so he could learn about a real passing offense.

When you have to take keynote speakers that had to coach at belhaven and didn't last there, it should tell you a lot!

[KB21]

https://twitter.com/austinjamesxfl/status/1634769141453160448?s=46&t=boMwTsd5d1vappV0mJtn8g

[KB21]

https://twitter.com/jamesalight/status/1634721449679175682?s=46&t=boMwTsd5d1vappV0mJtn8g

[KB21]

Arnett should have hired AJ Smith as OC.

[KB21]

https://twitter.com/sonofbum/status/1634801745724592128?s=46&t=boMwTsd5d1vappV0mJtn8g

[Pancho]

that'll be sweet when barbay hits us with that for sure. He's a smart guy.

[sandjunky]

I'm not concerned with the offense. We had open downfield WRs a good bit last year, but the short crossing mesh and RB flares were better options cause they were open much quicker.

This year we have a TON of experience with good depth returning. We have road graders for an Oline. We have 4-year starter Tom Brady returning. We finally got rid of Leach's antiquated AR system. This year we'll have much more creative play calling and an unstoppable running game, all creating innumerable play action opportunities, easily opening up receivers all over the place. I can see us averaging about 40pts/game against SEC only competition, which is along the lines of what TN/Bama/GA averaged last year.

So ... Even if the safety inexperience costs the D a few too many pts in 2 or 3 or so games, we should just outscore everyone.

No excuse for less than 10-2 and probably should win SECW.

Lol @ 10-2

[BuckyIsAB****]

If we don't have a QB that can tuck the ball and take the open field when it's given we are also going to have problems.

Here we go

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bucky has to set up his narrative to defend Will. He hates on WR more than anyone on this board.

It?s not a narrative. It?s the truth. Im sorry you dont like it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

On 3rd downs teams are going to do exactly what Illinois did all game. Man free with 6-7 in the box and say throw it. And we are going to have to get open. Hard to run RPOs against man. RPOs are not just hand it off to the RB or the QB run it. It wont be for us either.

I am glad we changed the offense some. But we are going to end up back like the Mullen years again on offense if we are not careful. And not the 2014-2017 years

[KB21]

We will be in third and long a lot as well with Barbay trying to establish the run on first and second downs.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We will be in third and long a lot as well with Barbay trying to establish the run on first and second downs.

I love Leach. think he is one of the best coaches of all time, not bc of the offense but bc of everything else.

But we needed to change some. True air raid is just the triple option. Its either gonna work or its not there is no plan B

[dawgday166]

Lol @ 10-2

Haha ... I?ve been trying to get with the spirit of this board?s usual preseason enthusiasm by saying 10-2 and have been somewhat kidding around with tongue-in-cheek. However, last night I dug in and researched a little just to see what is what.

Last year 10-2 was predicted with Bama & Georgia on our schedule. Everyone was pissed at how we played against both last year, especially Bama. Last year Bama had just lost @TN and the refs or SEC or whoever wasn't gonna let our game be close and the refs were absolutely handing out calls in Bama?s favor in that game. Looked similar to 2018 game which in reality was 10-7, not 24-0. In 2018, on Bama's 1st two TD drives we recovered legitimate fumbles during those drives that were never reviewed and even Danielson was speechless about those. Then there was the phantom block in the back on our TD before the half too. Tua had been lighting everyone up, but we held him to a little over 160 yds passing.

Last year everyone was mad about LSU & KY too, especially KY. I wasn't happy about those either however, even tho KY was last in SEC scoring offense last year (a lot of that had to do with Levi's up & down injury situation and he played against us) ... KY was 5th in SEC in Total D and 3rd in scoring D (vs conference only) and we played them at Lexington. We have not beaten them in Lexington since 2014 and that year we barely got out of there alive with arguably our best team ever. They smoked us worse than anyone did in 2018 too. They play real dirty in the trenches up in Lexington and they get away with it too.

But all that doesn't matter since we know that all our football woes in the last 3 years are because of Leach's antiquated AR system not being able to work in the big, bad SEC. Even tho we had more upsets and our 2 largest come from behind victories ever in last 3 years. But ... I?m gonna concede the point that the antiquated AR was really holding us back from being our best. And I'm gonna truthfully concede the point that we would not find anyone that ran the AR like Leach did.

Honestly, I don't care as long as we get 1st downs and lots of pts.

Moving on to this year's team. Everyone on our 1-deep on offense & defense is a GR or a SR, with the exception of WRs. GA has been replaced by USCe at Columbia. Looking at our top 3 most talented opponents which I consider to be Bama, LSU, and TAM ... all have some youth in places and Bama has a lot of youth on offense. We play Bama & LSU in Vegas. TAM is very young. USCe has more experience but not to our level of experience and ... they ain?t Gawga.

So we've basically replaced our offensive coaching staff and literally upgraded everywhere in doing so. Barbay has never coached in the big, bad SEC but he been great at other places and can adapt to any personnel set. Our culture is set and hasn't changed. Our D staff hardly changed and we were tied for 3rd in total D (conference only) last year. We lost Sharp, Wheat, and Forbes but mostly have everyone else back. Our Dline is very deep. Oline is a bunch of very experienced road graders.

Arkansas has replaced both coordinators. Auburn has whole new coaching staff although Freezus is a helluva underdog coach. TAM has replaced coordinators, although Petrino & Durkin are top shelf. Petrino is pretty concerning but ... he working with a lot of youth.

Sooo .. the more I look at this ... here is the summary. We play our two arch nemesis (KY & OM) at home along with 2 of our 3 most talented opponents (Bama & LSU). On the road we play at USCe, but they don?t have quite as much experience as we do and ... they ain?t Gawga. So that leaves Arky, TAM, and Auburn on the road, and ALL of them have replaced coordinators and/or coaching staffs too. And TAM is pretty darn young most everywhere.

If our 4 year starter at QB is half as good as Bucky says he is, then we should score LOTS of points next year and our D should be VERY stout too. Heupel put up 34 pts/game (conference only) in his 1st year at TN. So I ain't buying any excuses about WRs that can't get separation. Bumphis should take care of that if he's half as good as folks think he is.

So I'm taking back the joking part of my prediction. We should be no less than 10-2 IMO. Of course I also know that we are Ms State and we'll probably fumble/stumble around against Auburn and TAM and lose those games on the road, even tho we've owned both teams the last several years, at home and away. But ... I will be pretty darned pissed myself if either of those happen.

The schedule/playing field doesn't get any better for MSU football as it is this upcoming year. Realistically since we're MSU ... probably be 9-3.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We arent running Tennessees offense. So thats really not fair. All Tennessee is doing is the Baylor offense, go fast. We wont do much real tempo

[dawgday166]

We arent running Tennessees offense. So thats really not fair. All Tennessee is doing is the Baylor offense, go fast. We wont do much real tempo

I don't care what offense we run. Guys are all GR or SR with a 4 year starter at QB. They should be able to pick it up pretty darn quickly. And they should do a LOT of outside practice work to work on timing or routes and whatnot. Will's the leader and should make that happen.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don't care what offense we run. Guys are all GR or SR with a 4 year starter at QB. They should be able to pick it up pretty darn quickly. And they should do a LOT of outside practice work to work on timing or routes and whatnot. Will's the leader and should make that happen.

I agree we should be a pretty good team in 23. We just don?t need to do what Moorhead did and be hard headed

[dawgday166]

I agree we should be a pretty good team in 23. We just don?t need to do what Moorhead did and be hard headed

Not sure what you mean by this. Barbay has said he adapts to whatever personnel he has. And he has A LOT of experienced personnel to work with this year. JoMo didn't adapt at all and he also didn't start our best RB that would actually block blitzing LBs either.

Apples to Oranges.

[dawgday166]

I'm gonna add just a little to what I posted above relative to record.

Obviously we ain't beating Bama regardless of how close the game is. Refs (or the powers that be or whatever) will make sure Saban don't lose to little ole MSU.

LSU is very concerning to me for 3 reasons ...
1) They're very well coached for the most part, even tho they kinda stumbled at end of year last year.
2) QB Jaden Daniels is a stud horse on offense now.
3) Perkins Jr is a super stud on D at LB.

Both of those guys are very, very good, especially Perkins Jr.

I'm sure other teams have a stud or 2 (or in Bama's and TAM's case probably several) and if we don't show up to play, we can be beat by them. But if we show up to play IMO we should beat everyone not named Bama and maybe LSU too.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not sure what you mean by this. Barbay has said he adapts to whatever personnel he has. And he has A LOT of experienced personnel to work with this year. JoMo didn't adapt at all and he also didn't start our best RB that would actually block blitzing LBs either.

Apples to Oranges.

If Barbay does quote his offense and not what this current roster is best at would be like Moorhead

[BuckyIsAB****]

If you wanna beat Perkins Jr you go right at him. He is not about that life. He wants to run and tackle. A lot like Devin White. Good players but they arent going to take on a block then make a tackle

[dawgday166]

If Barbay does quote his offense and not what this current roster is best at would be like Moorhead

It this happens then he ain't doing what he told CZA in the interview he would do.

[dawgday166]

If you wanna beat Perkins Jr you go right at him. He is not about that life. He wants to run and tackle. A lot like Devin White. Good players but they arent going to take on a block then make a tackle

Well then ... we probably should be in a shootout with LSU then and both teams may score in the 30s. We certainly should. If our D can slow them down then we good.

[Todd4State]

It this happens then he ain't doing what he told CZA in the interview he would do.

I'm afraid that "adapting to personnel" is often times in the eye of the beholder- and in this case the only beholder is Barbay.

I wouldn't be surprised if fans in general are more flexible than football coaches as far as what they're willing to do with players but actually calling the plays is completely different.

Most coaches have a "core" offense that influenced them- like the Air Raid. And then they add things that they see that they like to that. Which is exactly what happened with Leach's disciples and why no one runs it exactly like him. I've seen that happen with Bill Walsh, Don Coryell, and to a lesser extent June Jones disciples too. It's human nature and some of it is personnel dictated to a degree.

I'm assuming Barbay will in reality be no different. I'm not saying he's a liar or anything like that- because I'm sure in his mind he is adapting to our personnel. It's just probably not in the way most fans would envision it.

[Todd4State]

I love Leach. think he is one of the best coaches of all time, not bc of the offense but bc of everything else.

But we needed to change some. True air raid is just the triple option. Its either gonna work or its not there is no plan B

The thing that kind of gets me is we could have made a hire that would be an easier transition and fits our personnel better.

Barbay's offense if you look at his tendencies is actually very similar to Moorhead.

[Todd4State]

Arnett should have hired AJ Smith as OC.

Yep.

I would love it if someone in the MSU media asked Barbay about his thoughts on football analytics. I'm sure his answer would be interesting.

I also have a feeling that his answer might be lost because of video problems.

[dawgday166]

I'm afraid that "adapting to personnel" is often times in the eye of the beholder- and in this case the only beholder is Barbay.

I wouldn't be surprised if fans in general are more flexible than football coaches as far as what they're willing to do with players but actually calling the plays is completely different.

Most coaches have a "core" offense that influenced them- like the Air Raid. And then they add things that they see that they like to that. Which is exactly what happened with Leach's disciples and why no one runs it exactly like him. I've seen that happen with Bill Walsh, Don Coryell, and to a lesser extent June Jones disciples too. It's human nature and some of it is personnel dictated to a degree.

I'm assuming Barbay will in reality be no different. I'm not saying he's a liar or anything like that- because I'm sure in his mind he is adapting to our personnel. It's just probably not in the way most fans would envision it.

Agree with this. Regardless of what a coach says, almost always they have a core philosophy and they wanna get their basic offense installed as quickly as possible, regardless of personnel.


The thing that kind of gets me is we could have made a hire that would be an easier transition and fits our personnel better.

Barbay's offense if you look at his tendencies is actually very similar to Moorhead.

I haven't watched a ton of videos on his offense, but what I did watch I might agree with this. I also tend to think he will run more than he'll throw it, but I don't really care as long as we move the football and score at least 30/game (conference only) with this set of offensive personnel and experience. Kiffen has done that every year at OM.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Kiffin runs a gimmick offense dont let it fool you. I love to see what they averaged the last 5-6 games and especially after the first quarter

[BuckyIsAB****]

Tempo the way it is done now is basically cheating. So defenses started cheating back by faking injuries. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that on every single play. Teams should do it to OM every single snap and they would never score. There is nothing you can do about it

[dawgday166]

Kiffin runs a gimmick offense dont let it fool you. I love to see what they averaged the last 5-6 games and especially after the first quarter

Whatever Bucky. That's an average and OM scored 24 on Bama last year. Kiffen does tend to adapt to his personnel.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I'm a wait and see. But I never purchased the whole "we will adapt" to... All that means is within that person's system. It never meant what some were saying that he would run Air Raid if that's what was best for the roster.

No coach can be great at all offenses.


AJ Smith as OC


Would have sat the SEC on fire.

[BuckyIsAB****]

What an achievement. Hes doing the tempo gimmick. And lost 5 of the last 6. I couldnt care less what they average. His offense is a gimmick.

[dawgday166]

Tempo the way it is done now is basically cheating. So defenses started cheating back by faking injuries. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that on every single play. Teams should do it to OM every single snap and they would never score. There is nothing you can do about it

I don't agree with this. If neither team can substitute, it's an even deal and nothing cheating about it. You sound like Saban now when he was whining about Freeze.

Maybe we need to increase our tempo. Leach got irritated a few times cause we weren't running plays fast enough.

[dawgday166]

What an achievement. Hes doing the tempo gimmick. And lost 5 of the last 6. I couldnt care less what they average. His offense is a gimmick.

I know. When we don't average but 25 or so and are in the mid-pack of SEC ... it won't be cause of Will. I got it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Oh I would 100 percent do it. youre stupid if you are not going fast at this point. It is an unfair advantage. The only credit it gets is that you do have to have a successful play to get it started but other than that it is in all essence cheating. Defenses have started cheating back bc it stops it in its tracks

[BuckyIsAB****]

It?s kind of like hunting over bait or fishing out of a barrel.

[bulldawg28]

Tempo the way it is done now is basically cheating. So defenses started cheating back by faking injuries. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that on every single play. Teams should do it to OM every single snap and they would never score. There is nothing you can do about it

Truth

[bulldawg28]

Whatever Bucky. That's an average and OM scored 24 on Bama last year. Kiffen does tend to adapt to his personnel.

Ole Miss offense is gimmicky trash. They're on a 4 game losing skid and struggling to score against average to good defenses.

[dawgday166]

Ole Miss offense is gimmicky trash. They're on a 4 game losing skid and struggling to score against average to good defenses.

You're sorta making my point for me. OM didn't even have that great an offense and still averaged 30 in conference only games this year.

[Goldendawg]

The thing that kind of gets me is we could have made a hire that would be an easier transition and fits our personnel better.

Barbay's offense if you look at his tendencies is actually very similar to Moorhead.

Please NO! You mean he will stand on the sidelines trying to outsmart the D, get the play in with 4 seconds left in the play clock, and then their D fires off exactly as the ball is snapped? Been there, done that and it turned a 10 win team into 8.

[BuckyIsAB****]

OM scored less than 30 in 6 of their 8 SEC games. And the vast majority of those points came in the first half. It?s a gimmick. They practice their first 10 plays or so and run them at break neck speed, it?s why they score on their first drive all the time. After that it slows down. It?s a gimmick. It is abusing the rules

[BuckyIsAB****]

45 on Auburn in Harsins last game and 52 on Vandy helps that average a lot. I would love if we would do it, it doesn?t change the fact it is basically cheating