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MoreCowbell
03-06-2023, 02:47 PM
Dellenger has talked to insiders and says these are likely permanent 3 opponents. I would take that all day- Ole Miss, Kentucky, A&M. Sign me up.

Auburn probably has the toughest. Drew Alabama and UGA so they gave them Vandy as a consolation.

Hope this embeds correctly from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1631723095667998725?s=46&t=F2cbepTqMXsfWg72FUUVHQ

BuckyIsAB****
03-06-2023, 02:54 PM
Better for wins and losses sure. Not what I would have picked

hailmari
03-06-2023, 03:05 PM
Three near 50/50 games in most years. I don?t hate it at all, but I wonder which would be better- having three toss ups OR having one toss up, a probable lose, and a Vandy.

Johnson85
03-06-2023, 03:09 PM
Better for wins and losses sure. Not what I would have picked

There's no reason to worry about anything other than wins and losses as we're going to get everybody twice in a four year period if they do home and aways. We'll get presumably at least three of Bama, UGA, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida every year. Then also probably one of UT and Auburn. Knowing we're probably going to have Bama, LSU, Texas, and UTenn for two years, and then UGA, Florida, Oklahoma, and Auburn the next two, all I want out of our permanents is the easiest games possible. Hell, I'd be fine with playing Ole Miss two out of four years if it meant we got Missourri, Vandy, and UK every year.

Turfdawg67
03-06-2023, 03:56 PM
Three near 50/50 games in most years. I don?t hate it at all, but I wonder which would be better- having three toss ups OR having one toss up, a probable lose, and a Vandy.

3-0
2-1
1-2
0-3

Or

2-1
1-2
0-3

One scenario gives a chance for 3-0, one doesn't, I'll take the three 50/50 teams.

Jack Lambert
03-06-2023, 03:59 PM
As long as Bama doesn't end up on our line you can post that as many times as you want.

Homedawg
03-06-2023, 05:22 PM
Dellenger has talked to insiders and says these are likely permanent 3 opponents. I would take that all day- Ole Miss, Kentucky, A&M. Sign me up.

Auburn probably has the toughest. Drew Alabama and UGA so they gave them Vandy as a consolation.

Hope this embeds correctly from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1631723095667998725?s=46&t=F2cbepTqMXsfWg72FUUVHQ

no, bama has the toughest. At least in today's world they do.

Leroy Jenkins
03-06-2023, 05:30 PM
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1631723095667998725?s=20

Quaoarsking
03-06-2023, 06:17 PM
no, bama has the toughest. At least in today's world they do.

Alabama has the easiest draw because they never have to play Alabama. It's not just about the 3 teams you play every year, it's also about the 12 teams you play every other year.

BulldogBear
03-06-2023, 08:17 PM
Been peddling Vandy-Auburn since the beginning of speculation. I don't believe it. Makes no sense. No history, etc. Either that's been in the works before the UT-OU was even made public or it's BS. I'm guessing the latter.

No way you trade TN-KY for TN-SC while also trading UGa-SC for UGa-KY

KOdawg1
03-06-2023, 09:29 PM
I bet OM is pissed they're losing Vandy.

Us, LSU, and Arkansas is a crappy draw for them

Homedawg
03-06-2023, 10:06 PM
Alabama has the easiest draw because they never have to play Alabama. It's not just about the 3 teams you play every year, it's also about the 12 teams you play every other year.

If we had ut, auburn and lsu people would lose their minds. And yes I get it. Bama can't play themselves.

Homedawg
03-06-2023, 10:07 PM
Been peddling Vandy-Auburn since the beginning of speculation. I don't believe it. Makes no sense. No history, etc. Either that's been in the works before the UT-OU was even made public or it's BS. I'm guessing the latter.

No way you trade TN-KY for TN-SC while also trading UGa-SC for UGa-KY

It's only fair. They get uga and bama.

viverlibre
03-06-2023, 10:32 PM
Dellenger has talked to insiders and says these are likely permanent 3 opponents. I would take that all day- Ole Miss, Kentucky, A&M. Sign me up.

Auburn probably has the toughest. Drew Alabama and UGA so they gave them Vandy as a consolation.

Hope this embeds correctly from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1631723095667998725?s=46&t=F2cbepTqMXsfWg72FUUVHQ

Probably? They have the best two programs in college football as perm opponents. Bama has the 2nd toughest, assuming last season wasn't "one offs" for UT and LSU.

Tater
03-07-2023, 05:44 AM
There's no reason to worry about anything other than wins and losses as we're going to get everybody twice in a four year period if they do home and aways. We'll get presumably at least three of Bama, UGA, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida every year. Then also probably one of UT and Auburn. Knowing we're probably going to have Bama, LSU, Texas, and UTenn for two years, and then UGA, Florida, Oklahoma, and Auburn the next two, all I want out of our permanents is the easiest games possible. Hell, I'd be fine with playing Ole Miss two out of four years if it meant we got Missourri, Vandy, and UK every year.

It's 3 of Bama-UGA-LSU-OU-Texsa-Florida-Auburn every year. The other 4 every other year.

Then 2 of Mizzou-SCar-Vandy-Ark-UTk every year. The other 3 every other year.

The best possible draw is Texsa-Florida-Auburn / Mizzou-Vandy-SCar and Bama-UGA-LSU-OU / Ark-UTk.
Gives you two years of a very good shot at SECC with your worst games being the two texsa teams and any "dark horse". Then two years where 8-4 was a great season lol.

But personally I wanna go 12-0 every year so we need to step it up. We almost got put in the upper tier winning %. Puts in perspective how good we've been relative to our history and how Moorhead error really hurt us.

Lord McBuckethead
03-07-2023, 09:31 AM
Ole Miss, Kentucky and Texas AM is fair.
first, we have to play those Asshats from Oxford every year because it makes living in this state Fun.
Second, Look at our last 20 years, we are almost exactly the same as Kentucky on overall w/l.
Third, it has been fun beating aTm almost every year they haven't had Johnny Football. It really pisses their fans off.

Johnson85
03-07-2023, 09:32 AM
It's 3 of Bama-UGA-LSU-OU-Texsa-Florida-Auburn every year. The other 4 every other year.

Then 2 of Mizzou-SCar-Vandy-Ark-UTk every year. The other 3 every other year.

The best possible draw is Texsa-Florida-Auburn / Mizzou-Vandy-SCar and Bama-UGA-LSU-OU / Ark-UTk.
Gives you two years of a very good shot at SECC with your worst games being the two texsa teams and any "dark horse". Then two years where 8-4 was a great season lol.

But personally I wanna go 12-0 every year so we need to step it up. We almost got put in the upper tier winning %. Puts in perspective how good we've been relative to our history and how Moorhead error really hurt us.

What kind of schedule are you envisioning? You think we're not going to play the 12 non-permanent opponents on the same frequency? I mean, I know in reality, things will get moved around and we probably won't play 6 for two years and then the other 6 for two years for any extended period of time. But I don't think they're going to intentionally set it up where we play some non-permanent opponents more than other, as would be required for us to play 3 out of 7 and 2 out of 5 every year.

Johnson85
03-07-2023, 09:37 AM
Probably? They have the best two programs in college football as perm opponents. Bama has the 2nd toughest, assuming last season wasn't "one offs" for UT and LSU.

Bama doesn't get an automatic win. Auburn's two toughest permanents are tougher, but looking at all three, Bama's clearly is. Which one you'd rather have just depends on what kind of team you. If you've got a good team, maybe you'd rather play Auburn and LSU and UTenn, as most years, they are going to be a step below Bama and UGA, and you'd expect to have at least a chance to win 3. If you're going to have a weak team, you might be better off with the automatic win against Vandy rather than a chance to go 0-3.

Tater
03-07-2023, 10:06 AM
What kind of schedule are you envisioning? You think we're not going to play the 12 non-permanent opponents on the same frequency? I mean, I know in reality, things will get moved around and we probably won't play 6 for two years and then the other 6 for two years for any extended period of time. But I don't think they're going to intentionally set it up where we play some non-permanent opponents more than other, as would be required for us to play 3 out of 7 and 2 out of 5 every year.

I mean you get a 4/2 upper/lower split home and home, and then a 3/3 upper/lower split home and home.

So Texsa-Florida-Auburn / Mizzou-Vandy-SCar / UK-OM-Aggy for 2 years

and Bama-UGA-LSU-OU / Ark-UTk / UK-OM-Aggy for 2 years

Given 3 OOC gimmes... you have serious 10+ wins seasons 2 of 4 years. And then 8-4 being a great year in 2 of 4 years. That's best case scenario imo.

HoopsDawg
03-07-2023, 12:17 PM
UGA with the best draw considering who they are.

sleepy dawg
03-07-2023, 01:24 PM
16 teams in a conference for football is just stupid.

TUSK
03-07-2023, 01:37 PM
Alabama has the easiest draw because they never have to play Alabama.

Could ya imagine the Officials' confusion on who to help win if Bammer played Bammer?

Goldendawg
03-07-2023, 01:56 PM
Could ya imagine the Officials' confusion on who to help win if Bammer played Bammer?

Both teams would complain.******

TrapGame
03-07-2023, 02:14 PM
I listened to Dellenger on SEC Radio and he said the three teams chosen were in order of "rivalry". So, to the SEC we have a secondary rivalry with UK and A&M. Which I can kind of see. Especially UK of late. Their fans really don't like us. And we seem to have A&M's number. Even when they were really good, outside of Johnny Football, we'd beat them regularly.

HoopsDawg
03-07-2023, 02:50 PM
16 teams in a conference for football is just stupid.

It's sad. The Big Ten has 14 teams. Nebraska is in the Big Ten.

The Big 12 has 10 teams.

Missouri in the SEC.

I miss the good ole days.

Johnson85
03-07-2023, 04:00 PM
I mean you get a 4/2 upper/lower split home and home, and then a 3/3 upper/lower split home and home.

So Texsa-Florida-Auburn / Mizzou-Vandy-SCar / UK-OM-Aggy for 2 years

and Bama-UGA-LSU-OU / Ark-UTk / UK-OM-Aggy for 2 years

Given 3 OOC gimmes... you have serious 10+ wins seasons 2 of 4 years. And then 8-4 being a great year in 2 of 4 years. That's best case scenario imo.

Gotcha. I assume they are going to start with the rotating teams on the same basis that they did the permanent opponents. Rank them on performance the past ten years and balance them out the best they can. Probably won't be able to follow that exactly when it comes down to it, but guessing they will at least start there, assuming they did the permanent opponents the way they claimed.

smootness
03-07-2023, 05:20 PM
We'll eventually get to 20 and they'll split it into essentially 2 different conferences...or at least that's what they should do. You play everybody on your side every year, and there's a championship game between each champion.

MoreCowbell
03-07-2023, 05:30 PM
Probably? They have the best two programs in college football as perm opponents. Bama has the 2nd toughest, assuming last season wasn't "one offs" for UT and LSU.

They have 2 opponents no one wanted but they at least get a guaranteed W every year with Vandy. Iron Bowl is always a bit of a toss up especially with Bama now on decline. Still toughest by far if you go by state of each program.

BuckyIsAB****
03-07-2023, 06:02 PM
I think I have read somewhere before that we have played Alabama and Auburn more than any other school in the league. We have played LSU a lot too. It?s something stupid like that

Saltydog
03-07-2023, 10:01 PM
Well, one thing is for damn sure, there wouldn't be a flag thrown..........

TheLostDawg
03-08-2023, 09:17 AM
Ole Miss, Kentucky and Texas AM is fair.
first, we have to play those Asshats from Oxford every year because it makes living in this state Fun.
Second, Look at our last 20 years, we are almost exactly the same as Kentucky on overall w/l.
Third, it has been fun beating aTm almost every year they haven't had Johnny Football. It really pisses their fans off.

Yeah but one good hire and TAMU is going to be tough with all their money. The fact that they are going to be even more willing to spend now that they have Texas every year is scary. They aren't going to want to lose to them every year. Watch them get a new AD and start doing better. At least it isn't BAMA.

Cohen better enjoy his time at Auburn. Freeze magic might have just run out. However if freeze does well then Cohen can coast

viverlibre
03-08-2023, 10:33 AM
Yeah but one good hire and TAMU is going to be tough with all their money. The fact that they are going to be even more willing to spend now that they have Texas every year is scary. They aren't going to want to lose to them every year. Watch them get a new AD and start doing better.

Been saying this for years. Eventually they will put it together. Thankfully the huge contract that Jimbo has is a boat anchor for them,

viverlibre
03-08-2023, 10:35 AM
Cohen better enjoy his time at Auburn. Freeze magic might have just run out. However if freeze does well then Cohen can coast

I don't know if the AD has a ton of power at the barn. I think Cohen was brought in to be a yes man and fall guy, he likely understands that. They have some very strong boosters.

Johnson85
03-08-2023, 11:03 AM
Been saying this for years. Eventually they will put it together. Thankfully the huge contract that Jimbo has is a boat anchor for them,

Yup. The rest of the SEC got pretty lucky with the Jimbo hire. It looked pretty good at the time. Instead he's been just good enough to not want to spend $90M or whatever it is now to fire him. Not that it's so easy to go find the next Saban or Kirby or even Brian Kelly. But the more they spend on godfather offers to coaches like Jimbo, the fewer chances they have to get it right.

Desoto1967
03-08-2023, 11:29 AM
With State playing 9 SEC a season, they are losing an OOC game. Do you still schedule a OOC Power 5 team with such a stuff schedule? Do they only schedule Group of 5 and FCS teams? If FCS teams are cut, those small schools are losing a lot of money

Johnson85
03-08-2023, 12:37 PM
With State playing 9 SEC a season, they are losing an OOC game. Do you still schedule a OOC Power 5 team with such a stuff schedule? Do they only schedule Group of 5 and FCS teams? If FCS teams are cut, those small schools are losing a lot of money

We've got a lot of P5 OOC games under contract. I doubt we're going to pony up to get out of them even if the SEC does away with the P5 requirement. I think with 9 SEC games and a P5 OOC game, we'll probably try to have one G5 game and 1 FCS game. If all the SEC schools drop a G5 game rather than the FCS game, that will be about $18M that G5 schools don't get, just from teh current 14 SEC teams (that's going off the average of $1.3M per G5 buy game from 2020). Of course we're already doing some 2-1 games and I'd assume some other schools are also, so it may not be quite that much. And I imagine that the average pay for a buy game may come down with the demand coming down. That will work out to somewhere north of $250k per G5 and independent school (excluding BYU).

TheLostDawg
03-08-2023, 02:13 PM
Dellenger has talked to insiders and says these are likely permanent 3 opponents. I would take that all day- Ole Miss, Kentucky, A&M. Sign me up.

Auburn probably has the toughest. Drew Alabama and UGA so they gave them Vandy as a consolation.

Hope this embeds correctly from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1631723095667998725?s=46&t=F2cbepTqMXsfWg72FUUVHQ

https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/1631734342815817728?t=cISir3OInSdgOWc4lTjS_A&s=19