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Big4Dawg
02-27-2023, 04:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1630308193229217793/photo/1

Moved up to Last Four Byes

BeardoMSU
02-27-2023, 05:13 PM
Just handle bidness

Ari Gold
02-27-2023, 06:23 PM
Need Baylor and Iowa state tonight

MetEdDawg
02-27-2023, 06:30 PM
Beat SC and Vandy and we are for sure in.

Beat SC and lose to Vandy and we will probably be a last 4 in team. People forget @Vandy is a Quad 2 game.

We have a good resume. Only bad loss is @UGA. Florida has fallen off but it's not a bad loss.

Ari Gold
02-27-2023, 06:34 PM
Aub finishes with
@bama
Tennessee
If Joey B is correct with Aub being that low
They might not get in

LC Dawg
02-27-2023, 07:57 PM
Basically Lunardi currently has us as an 11 seed and we could move up by winning our last 2. I kind of like being an 11. We're gonna have to upset someone in the first round and winning as an 11 likely matches us up with a 3 seed. There's not a 6 seed out there that wants to face us and we'll concern the hell out of a 3 seed.

PGHBulldogBG
02-28-2023, 08:49 AM
Nevada and Oklahoma State both lost last night which helps. Nevada lost to a very bad Wyoming team so that will really drop them. Ok State will probably linger around being 7-10 in the big 12 but we got to hope they lose. WVU pretty much locked themselves up last night winning at Iowa State, but their NET was so high to begin with they were going to make it regardless. It was more important Ok State and Nevada lost. Now the most important thing tonight is making sure we get the W, preferably by more than 10 to not drop our NET

chef dixon
02-28-2023, 09:12 AM
Big 12 teams getting 15 lives to make it, Big 10 not far behind them. I think ultimately the committee will look at our resume favorably. If we win the last 2 we are an absolute lock, 1-1 still should be if they don't look at the names of the teams

confucius say
02-28-2023, 09:23 AM
I want to be one of the two 11 seeds that doesn't have to play a play-in game. Match up with a 6 and a 3 and not have a play-in game.

MetEdDawg
02-28-2023, 10:47 AM
NET is sitting at 39 right now.

I would imagine if we best SC and Vandy we will likely be around 35 or 36. We will be in guaranteed with that. That should be enough to keep us out of a play in game in the tournament.

But we definitely need to keep our eye on the bubble. There's always going to be bid stealers and I'm just anticipating us beating SC and losing @Vandy. So SEC Tournament and bud stealing will determine our tournament reality.

confucius say
02-28-2023, 11:01 AM
Today he dropped us back to last 4 in.
No clue how Nevada is ahead of after that horrible loss last night.

msudawg1200
02-28-2023, 11:41 AM
Today he dropped us back to last 4 in.
No clue how Nevada is ahead of after that horrible loss last night.

That's their only Q3 loss. I believe they have 5 Q1 wins which is one more than us. West Virginia beating Iowa St is what actually knocked us back down.

Goldendawg
02-28-2023, 12:35 PM
Nevada and Oklahoma State both lost last night which helps. Nevada lost to a very bad Wyoming team so that will really drop them. Ok State will probably linger around being 7-10 in the big 12 but we got to hope they lose. WVU pretty much locked themselves up last night winning at Iowa State, but their NET was so high to begin with they were going to make it regardless. It was more important Ok State and Nevada lost. Now the most important thing tonight is making sure we get the W, preferably by more than 10 to not drop our NET

I don't get how this is determined. W VA is only a couple of wins over .500 and have a terrible conference record. Do they not have any bad losses or their SOS was very high with "quality losses"? Please explain.

msstate7
02-28-2023, 12:38 PM
I don't get how this is determined. W VA is only a couple of wins over .500 and have a terrible conference record. Do they not have any bad losses or their SOS was very high with "quality losses"? Please explain.

They're 5-13 in Q1 games and 5-1 in Q2 games.

Goldendawg
02-28-2023, 12:38 PM
NET is sitting at 39 right now.

I would imagine if we best SC and Vandy we will likely be around 35 or 36. We will be in guaranteed with that. That should be enough to keep us out of a play in game in the tournament.

But we definitely need to keep our eye on the bubble. There's always going to be bid stealers and I'm just anticipating us beating SC and losing @Vandy. So SEC Tournament and bud stealing will determine our tournament reality.

I still don't feel comfortable that they give the SEC 8 teams in, especially if we are #8. Need AU to lose out in regular season games and their SEC tourney game also.

Goldendawg
02-28-2023, 12:39 PM
They're 5-13 in Q1 games and 5-1 in Q2 games.

How is 5-13 good even in Q1 games? Thanks.

msstate7
02-28-2023, 01:19 PM
How is 5-13 good even in Q1 games? Thanks.

We're 4-7 in Q1 games and 4-2 in Q2 games. We've played 17 Q1 and Q2 games total. They've played 18 Q1 games alone. Their schedule was brutal

chef dixon
02-28-2023, 01:47 PM
We're 4-7 in Q1 games and 4-2 in Q2 games. We've played 17 Q1 and Q2 games total. They've played 18 Q1 games alone. Their schedule was brutal

Its still bullshit. Blind squirrels get nuts if given enough opportunities. If you doubled our Q1 games we have 3-4 more Q1 wins.

Goldendawg
02-28-2023, 02:10 PM
Its still bullshit. Blind squirrels get nuts if given enough opportunities. If you doubled our Q1 games we have 3-4 more Q1 wins.

So schedule tough and lose a large % of those games and you can still get in, stupid. Won't you theoretically continue to lose in the tough tourney? Wins against a tough schedule should set the bar.

confucius say
02-28-2023, 02:14 PM
18 quad 1 games is insane

StarkVegasSteve
02-28-2023, 03:14 PM
So schedule tough and lose a large % of those games and you can still get in, stupid. Won't you theoretically continue to lose in the tough tourney? Wins against a tough schedule should set the bar.

It is more of play in a tough conference and get rewarded. The Big 12 has does not have a team ranked lower than 65 in the NET. And 6 teams ranked in the top 30. That means that every road game is a Q1 opportunity and home games are no lower than Q2.

On the other hand the SEC has 4 teams with sub 130 NETs. Unfortunately for us we have played all of them once and two of them twice (OM and USCe)

PGHBulldogBG
02-28-2023, 04:27 PM
So schedule tough and lose a large % of those games and you can still get in, stupid. Won't you theoretically continue to lose in the tough tourney? Wins against a tough schedule should set the bar.

Bob Huggins actually does that every year. That?s how WV gets into the tournament almost every year. He used to always have a real high RPI too. He is really intelligent with scheduling and knowing how to play the system

Quaoarsking
02-28-2023, 05:44 PM
Bob Huggins actually does that every year. That?s how WV gets into the tournament almost every year. He used to always have a real high RPI too. He is really intelligent with scheduling and knowing how to play the system

If RPI/NET is that easy to crack, why hasn't our athletic department made smart scheduling a top priority?

Hell, I like spreadsheets. I'll do it for less than the going consulting rate.

chef dixon
02-28-2023, 05:49 PM
Well we have improved our OOC scheduling over the years. That's precisely why we are in position to dance now

Goldendawg
02-28-2023, 05:56 PM
Bob Huggins actually does that every year. That?s how WV gets into the tournament almost every year. He used to always have a real high RPI too. He is really intelligent with scheduling and knowing how to play the system

They finally got their 6th conference victory last night. Is the Big 12 or whatever they are in so strong that a pitiful record in conference doesn't matter?

StarkVegasSteve
02-28-2023, 06:11 PM
If RPI/NET is that easy to crack, why hasn't our athletic department made smart scheduling a top priority?

Hell, I like spreadsheets. I'll do it for less than the going consulting rate.

It is when you have the name recognition of Bob Huggins. He's been in the profession all his adult life and has been a HC somewhere since the early 80s. It's easier to schedule with that type of name recognition. Coaches want to play a Bob Huggins team and these early season NET booster tournaments always want guys with name recognition coaching to attract the average fan. Just in the last 3 years they've played in the Phil Knight Invitational, The Jimmy V Classic, and the Charleston Classic.

He's also helped by the fact that the Big 12 has been the best top to bottom conference in basketball the last 4-5 years and he has a non con game with Pitt every year and more years than not they are a good team that gives you a ratings boost.