Game 3 lineup announced..........Essentially it's Highfill for Hines........Hancock

[Saltydog]

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Larry 2B
Ledbetter LF
Jordan CF
Hancock 1b
Alford - 3b
Clark - RF
Chance - DH
Highfill - C
Forsythe - SS

[sandjunky]

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Larry 2B
Ledbetter LF
Jordan CF
Hancock 1b
Alford - 3b
Clark - RF
Chance - DH
Highfill - C
Forsythe - SS

That?s stupid- must have a guaranteed to play in his contract

[ZedFedder]

I don?t get that

[BankerDog]

Our NIL money went to Hancock, Hunt, and a little bit to Stinnett to get him back. Absolutely terrible decision making.

[Saltydog]

Our NIL money went to Hancock, Hunt, and a little bit to Stinnett to get him back. Absolutely terrible decision making.

Why does that matter. If they're not performing I don't care how much NIL they get, they're on the bench. Hancock's inability to throw shouldn't be on Hines. If I'm Hines, I'm pissed.

[AlSwearengen]

Because it looks like Hines is trying to hit a HR every at bat and not doing shit at the plate and you can tell his defense is not very good. Hancock is hitting a little bit so far. There could be a good bit of red ass from returning players before this is over.

[BankerDog]

Why does that matter. If they're not performing I don't care how much NIL they get, they're on the bench. Hancock's inability to throw shouldn't be on Hines. If I'm Hines, I'm pissed.

So you?re okay with giving NiL money to Hunt and not upping our offer to Skenes or any of the USM kids? Got it.

[msstate7]

Are we facing a lhp today?

[Cowbell]

Hines has not been good so far at 1B.... we need Hancocks leadership today more than ever on the field.

[KOdawg1]

Yeahhh I'm not getting that

[Cowbell]

Are we facing a lhp today?

Honestly, who even cares at this point. We should be able to hit every guy they have left. It's our pitching that we have to worry about.

[msstate7]

Honestly, who even cares at this point. We should be able to hit every guy they have left. It's our pitching that we have to worry about.

Just wondering if Hines has rough splits

[sandjunky]

Hines has not been good so far at 1B.... we need Hancocks leadership today more than ever on the field.
Who says he ?has? leadership? Having to beg someone to not retire to come play one more does not sound like someone that leads

[StarkVegasSteve]

That?s stupid- must have a guaranteed to play in his contract

We basically did that when we gave him that stupid ass Captain C. He needs a PH. Because that is all he needs to be doing.

[Saltydog]

So you?re okay with giving NiL money to Hunt and not upping our offer to Skenes or any of the USM kids? Got it.

That's not what I'm saying. If a player isn't performing he should sit, IDGAF who it is or how much NIL he's getting.

[State82]

Our NIL money went to Hancock, Hunt, and a little bit to Stinnett to get him back. Absolutely terrible decision making.

I agree. That was not wise use of funds.

[parabrave]

Well got out of that inning with only giving up 1 run so far/

[sandjunky]

Terrible jersey combo today

[parabrave]

Alford with a nice line drive for our 1st hit.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Terrible jersey combo today

Don’t mind the black jerseys or the white pants, but damn the white hats with maroon bills really kill the look. If we wanted to wear white hats then go all white.

[Cowbell]

Who says he ?has? leadership? Having to beg someone to not retire to come play one more does not sound like someone that leads

Showing up alone doesn't get a C on your Jersey

[sandjunky]

Don’t mind the black jerseys or the white pants, but damn the white hats with maroon bills really kill the look. If we wanted to wear white hats then go all white.

Agreed

[parabrave]

Did they tag Clark/

[parabrave]

Well they have a catcher who can throw.

[parabrave]

VMI with their 3rd hit and 2nd double.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Did they tag Clark/

Clark really needs to ride the bench for a few games. When he actually gets a hit he makes stupid base running errors

[mparkerfd20]

We are in huge trouble this year. Another sub .500 season on the way.

[CaptainObvious]

Y?all seen enough of Lemonis Clown Show yet?

Did the team allocative to the park in one of those Circus Clown cars where all 9 crawled out?

[msstate7]

2009-2010 was the last time we missed the tourney in back-to-back years. That will most likely change this season

[parabrave]

3-0 now.

[CaptainObvious]

They wearing out the 6 hole but our Rhodes Scholar SS keeps playing up the middle.

[Saltydog]

I like that Gartman throws strikes but his stuff is nothing special. They've hit some balls hard but at least he's making them swing but I'd be surprised if he doesn't get hammered in league play.

[Really Clark?]

They wearing out the 6 hole but our Rhodes Scholar SS keeps playing up the middle.

Yeah because he's not playing where the coaches are positioning him??? At least put the blame where it belongs.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I like that Gartman throws strikes but his stuff is nothing special. They've hit some balls hard but at least he's making them swing but I'd be surprised if he doesn't get hammered in league play.

A lot like Preston Johnson. Pounds the zone but is going to give up hits, especially when conference play begins.

[parabrave]

I like that Gartman throws strikes but his stuff is nothing special. They've hit some balls hard but at least he's making them swing but I'd be surprised if he doesn't get hammered in league play.

He is getting hammered here.

[StarkVegasSteve]

2009-2010 was the last time we missed the tourney in back-to-back years. That will most likely change this season

And if/when we do Lemonis will not be the coach in 2024

[Activated Alpha]

Whelp another losing season on the way.....

[msstate7]

Whelp another losing season on the way.....

Extremely early, but I'm concerned

[parabrave]

Well get on base anyway you can.

[Activated Alpha]

Extremely early, but I'm concerned

Extremely early I know, but I have seen enough to get a feel on where this team is heading.

[parabrave]

Well we do have a L/O hitter/

[msstate7]

Larry looks like a player

[msstate7]

Lol, nice bat flip

[parabrave]

Now Hancock just get a hit and get Alford in/

[Really Clark?]

That was a nice inning Gartman

[Saltydog]

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Larry 2B
Ledbetter LF
Jordan CF
Hancock 1b
Alford - 3b
Clark - RF
Chance - DH
Highfill - C
Forsythe - SS

I have a feeling we're about to see some ruffled feathers. I'd be surprised if we see Luke back at catcher, which is going to create a quandary between he, Chance and Hines for 1b and DH. It's the perfect storm.

[archdog]

Well Lane is about to hit into a double play. Best case scenario he just strikes out.

[archdog]

You telling me, we have no one on our team that can field SS and bat .275?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I love when I trash players and they immediately hit it into the next county. Cumbest, Yeager, and now Clark. A tradition unlike any other.

[Saltydog]

We have the kid from VCU and Davis. Neither are as good in the field as Lane.

[parabrave]

Well it seems we have a ump who calls the corners.

[parabrave]

And now the dreaded 2 out error. Hopefully it doesn't co,me back to haunt us. Well I guess not./

[Really Clark?]

You telling me, we have no one on our team that can field SS and bat .275?

Foresythe did last year

[StarkVegasSteve]

94, 94, 95. I think Jurrangelo is going to be just fine as long as we keep him away from Foxhall

[archdog]

They just said he was drafted as a SS? And we have Lane out there?

[archdog]

Barely. He spent 3 months at below .200.

[archdog]

Alright, it is time to put up or shut up Hitters.

[archdog]

So for two innings yesterday we were squaring up everything thrown around the plate. Other than the 2 home runs we are chipping it.

[BeardoMSU]

Kellum with a day

[Really Clark?]

Barely. He spent 3 months at below .200.

So he did his damage against SEC pitching to finish at .273. Got it

[archdog]

Lane gives us nothing.
Automatic out every time.

[parabrave]

Lane gives us nothing.
Automatic out every time.

Thats why he hits 9th/

[archdog]

So a new pitcher. Gives up a 5 pitch walk. WTF is up with our staff?

[parabrave]

And we get a Pickoff!!!!

[ZedFedder]

I have no idea why we threw all the guys who could not throw strikes yesterday. Everyone today has been fine.

[parabrave]

I have no idea why we threw all the guys who could not throw strikes yesterday. Everyone today has been fine.

Well one thing is this ump is generous with his Zone.

[archdog]

All of our hitters just waiting for Kellen to do what needs to be done?

[Turfdawg67]

Well one thing is this ump is generous with his Zone.

This ump got his NIL payment... :cool:

[archdog]

I have no idea why we threw all the guys who could not throw strikes yesterday. Everyone today has been fine.

No idea. We throw strikes yesterday and we win 13-7 or so.

[archdog]

Dakota Jordan is up there to hit. Dude swings like he means it.

[archdog]

I feel like the first one to 6 runs wins this game.

[archdog]

Hit and run right here. Yep. Fouled ball.

[archdog]

Hancock is due.

[archdog]

Alford needs to just relax up there. Seems like he is pressing.

[ZedFedder]

Today has made me feel MUCH better about pitching.

[archdog]

Lane is going to pop out.

[archdog]

I like this Larry dude.

[ZedFedder]

He has done freshman kinks to work out, but it?s evident Dakota Jordan is a future star.

[archdog]

Dakota is a future star. There will be weekends this year where he will look bad. There will be weekends this year where he hits 4 bombs. He needs innings, and hopefully he can stay consistent Enough to stay in the lineup every game.

[Turfdawg67]

Only 4 pages? We must be winning. Thanks for the updates archdog.

[EdwardDrayton]

Sing it Meat Loaf.

[R2Dawg]

I haven't got to watch much this weekend but saw the last 3 today.

Nixion looked like one of our closers. mid upper 90s, filthy breaking ball. Good control. Strikes out 3 to end the game.

One thing we all should have learned in 21, lets see how pitching develops or shows up. Bednar started slow in 21 and Fristoe was a starter early season as was Cerantola. We can't blunder it though like game 2 too many times.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Our two Freshman and Nixon looked really good today. Gartman is going to be a solid starter for us, kind of like Preston. He is going to fill the zone, get some Ks, give up some hits, and probably give up some HRs. But we will not walk many.

[msstate7]

Pen was much better today. Build on it Tuesday.

[WSOPdawg]

Our two Freshman and Nixon looked really good today. Gartman is going to be a solid starter for us, kind of like Preston. He is going to fill the zone, get some Ks, give up some hits, and probably give up some HRs. But we will not walk many.

We'll prolly start Pico on Tuesday but reviewing this weekend, it looks like roles seem to be:

SP1 - Cade Smith
SP2 - Landon Gartman (but he'll prolly stay on Sundays)
SP3 - hopefully Pico Kohn (expect to see him Tuesday night)

mix-n-match:
LHP - Lo Cijentje
LHP - Bradley Loftin
LHP - Graham Yntema
LHP - Tyler Davis
RHP - Logan Forsythe

S/U - Tyson Hardin
S/U - Nate Dohm
Cl - Aaron Nixon

All of the above showed positive contributions and I still am cautiously optimistic we can ride with these guys. But those leaving me wondering are KC Hunt, Stinnett & Colby Holcombe... I mean like WTF???

[chef dixon]

Hey if we win every series this year we will be national seed

[The Federalist Engineer]

Our NIL money went to Hancock, Hunt, and a little bit to Stinnett to get him back. Absolutely terrible decision making.

I hope this is a joke.

This is worse than terrible, it's sad and dumb

[The Federalist Engineer]

We'll prolly start Pico on Tuesday but reviewing this weekend, it looks like roles seem to be:

SP1 - Cade Smith
SP2 - Landon Gartman (but he'll prolly stay on Sundays)
SP3 - hopefully Pico Kohn (expect to see him Tuesday night)

mix-n-match:
LHP - Lo Cijentje
LHP - Bradley Loftin
LHP - Graham Yntema
LHP - Tyler Davis
RHP - Logan Forsythe

S/U - Tyson Hardin
S/U - Nate Dohm
Cl - Aaron Nixon

All of the above showed positive contributions and I still am cautiously optimistic we can ride with these guys. But those leaving me wondering are KC Hunt, Stinnett & Colby Holcombe... I mean like WTF???

Where was Pico yesterday, is the clown show a Saturday thing. Like fireworks Friday.

[Homedawg]

I hope this is a joke.

This is worse than terrible, it's sad and dumb

He's making it sound like that's all we spent. Not even close

[TALL DAWG]

I wish they?d ran our freshman ?dual threat??pitcher back out to start the 7th?and let him throw from left side.
No one could say we?d be potentially hurting his arm early in the season as it would have been his other arm!

[WSOPdawg]

Where was Pico yesterday, is the clown show a Saturday thing. Like fireworks Friday.

Thinking back on it and having cooled off a bit, the way Saturday unfolded was a WEIRD game. We jump out with 8 runs in the 1st, up 10-1 in the 2nd and KC totally loses command with 4 straight BBs but still seemed like a great spot to give Stinnett a chance to be a leading contributor by putting the fire out... except he didn't (or couldn't).

Other elements adding to the sh!tshow was (1) the home plate ump not helping with his strikezone the size of a postage stamp while not giving any outside pitches (hence all of the walks). Plus, (2) Luke not being able to keep runners from advancing into scoring position by stealing at will further alienated the situation.

Even Dohm pitched well enough to silence their bats until the error, which was on a ball hit in an unlucky spot that was gonna make the play tough anyway. I think Saturday, overall, was just more BAD misfortune than good.

Not making excuses as I hate we lost, but I still think we have the pitchers to make a run back into the top-25 (although we probably don't have a Friday night ace).

[StarkVegasSteve]

I wish they?d ran our freshman ?dual threat??pitcher back out to start the 7th?and let him throw from left side.
No one could say we?d be potentially hurting his arm early in the season as it would have been his other arm!

Lemonis said in postgame that he slept on his left arm wrong and they did not want to risk him throwing Lh today.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We'll prolly start Pico on Tuesday but reviewing this weekend, it looks like roles seem to be:

SP1 - Cade Smith
SP2 - Landon Gartman (but he'll prolly stay on Sundays)
SP3 - hopefully Pico Kohn (expect to see him Tuesday night)

mix-n-match:
LHP - Lo Cijentje
LHP - Bradley Loftin
LHP - Graham Yntema
LHP - Tyler Davis
RHP - Logan Forsythe

S/U - Tyson Hardin
S/U - Nate Dohm
Cl - Aaron Nixon

All of the above showed positive contributions and I still am cautiously optimistic we can ride with these guys. But those leaving me wondering are KC Hunt, Stinnett & Colby Holcombe... I mean like WTF???

We are going to need a long relief guy. No clue who that will be but we are going to have to find a guy or two we could hand the ball to in the 4th on a Friday and tell him he has to go 4 innings

[WSOPdawg]

We are going to need a long relief guy. No clue who that will be but we are going to have to find a guy or two we could hand the ball to in the 4th on a Friday and tell him he has to go 4 innings

Watching Lo and Loftin control the mound this afternoon gave me chills... hopefully these guys can continue to impress as we step up in competition level.

[CaptainObvious]

Thinking back on it and having cooled off a bit, the way Saturday unfolded was a WEIRD game. We jump out with 8 runs in the 1st, up 10-1 in the 2nd and KC totally loses command with 4 straight BBs but still seemed like a great spot to give Stinnett a chance to be a leading contributor by putting the fire out... except he didn't (or couldn't).

Other elements adding to the sh!tshow was (1) the home plate ump not helping with his strikezone the size of a postage stamp while not giving any outside pitches (hence all of the walks). Plus, (2) Luke not being able to keep runners from advancing into scoring position by stealing at will further alienated the situation.

Even Dohm pitched well enough to silence their bats until the error, which was on a ball hit in an unlucky spot that was gonna make the play tough anyway. I think Saturday, overall, was just more BAD misfortune than good.

Not making excuses as I hate we lost, but I still think we have the pitchers to make a run back into the top-25 (although we probably don't have a Friday night ace).

There was more to just Luke not being able to control their running game. I?m not sure a pitcher threw over more than once their entire inning plus in the game.

[Homedawg]

Watching Lo and Loftin control the mound this afternoon gave me chills... hopefully these guys can continue to impress as we step up in competition level.

They are both Uber talented. But they both are going to have fr moments until they get better command. Both have been lacking that. But once it clicks it's gonna be fun.

[Homedawg]

There was more to just Luke not being able to control their running game. I?m not sure a pitcher threw over more than once their entire inning plus in the game.

They were getting running leads from second. Don't care who was catching.

[Homedawg]

We are going to need a long relief guy. No clue who that will be but we are going to have to find a guy or two we could hand the ball to in the 4th on a Friday and tell him he has to go 4 innings

True^

[R2Dawg]

Pitching looked solid today and gives me hope that we have some talent to figure some things out.

I really like some of the energy these new guys are bringing - Larry, Jordan, Highfil, etc. I saw glimpes of a Bulldog chip and I like it.

We have some pieces if we can get the older guys to do like they have in the past. Hancock, Clark and Forsythe played major roles in NC. With new players, this team can be good.

[Commercecomet24]

They were getting running leads from second. Don't care who was catching.

This, our pitchers weren't even slowing them down. One look and then to the plate and they had us timed. No slide steps no varying of deliveries and slow to the plate is a recipe for disaster. Luke doesn't have lotans arm but his pop time is good enough to give him a chance if our pitchers give him that chance.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The Good From The Weekend: Amani Larry, Luke Hancock Hitting, Luke Hancock Playing 1st, Colton Ledbetter, Cjintje, Loftin, Gartman, Cade, Dohm, Hardin, Kellum Clark's Sunday, Ross Highfill Catching.

The Bad From The Weekend: KC Hunt, Hunter Hines, Lane Forsythe at the plate, Colby Holcombe after the missed 3rd strike, Not Holding Runners on Saturday, Kellum Clark's Friday and Saturday

The Ugly From The Weekend: Luke Hancock Catching, Parker Stinnett, Lane Forsythe Fielding, Slate Alford Fielding, Kellum Clark's sliding, Innings 3-9 Saturday, Foxhall's Pitch calls.


Definitely some things to work on and definitely some things that are concerning. I think the fielding will work itself out so just like our thoughts going into the weekend we still are uncertain about our pitching.

[Cowbell]

The Good From The Weekend: Amani Larry, Luke Hancock Hitting, Luke Hancock Playing 1st, Colton Ledbetter, Cjintje, Loftin, Gartman, Cade, Dohm, Hardin, Kellum Clark's Sunday, Ross Highfill Catching.

The Bad From The Weekend: KC Hunt, Hunter Hines, Lane Forsythe at the plate, Colby Holcombe after the missed 3rd strike, Not Holding Runners on Saturday, Kellum Clark's Friday and Saturday

The Ugly From The Weekend: Luke Hancock Catching, Parker Stinnett, Lane Forsythe Fielding, Slate Alford Fielding, Kellum Clark's sliding, Innings 3-9 Saturday, Foxhall's Pitch calls.


Definitely some things to work on and definitely some things that are concerning. I think the fielding will work itself out so just like our thoughts going into the weekend we still are uncertain about our pitching.


Hancock was fine behind the plate - his pitchers cost us the steals. And apparently you didn't see Forsyth making tough plays look routine today - he's a stud SS and anyone who thinks different is overreacting. Also, Fox pitch calls were good today as they were all weekend had guys just freakin thrown strikes.

You can add to the bad the fact that you wanted to sit Clark today 😂

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hancock was fine behind the plate - his pitchers cost us the steals. And apparently you didn't see Forsyth making tough plays look routine today - he's a stud SS and anyone who thinks different is overreacting. Also, Fox pitch calls were good today as they were all weekend had guys just freakin thrown strikes.

You can add to the bad the fact that you wanted to sit Clark today ��

Thank you Coach. Nice to know you're on the board. If you could let Mershon get a look on Tuesday or Wednesday that'd be great. Also, please don't wear the white hats with the black jerseys. Not one of our better looks.

[Cowbell]

Thank you Coach. Nice to know you're on the board. If you could let Mershon get a look on Tuesday or Wednesday that'd be great. Also, please don't wear the white hats with the black jerseys. Not one of our better looks.

I will give this advice as much thought as I did letting Clark ride the pine today....

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will give this advice as much thought as I did letting Clark ride the pine today....

That's all we ask. Just consideration.

[R2Dawg]

The Good From The Weekend: Amani Larry, Luke Hancock Hitting, Luke Hancock Playing 1st, Colton Ledbetter, Cjintje, Loftin, Gartman, Cade, Dohm, Hardin, Kellum Clark's Sunday, Ross Highfill Catching.

The Bad From The Weekend: KC Hunt, Hunter Hines, Lane Forsythe at the plate, Colby Holcombe after the missed 3rd strike, Not Holding Runners on Saturday, Kellum Clark's Friday and Saturday

The Ugly From The Weekend: Luke Hancock Catching, Parker Stinnett, Lane Forsythe Fielding, Slate Alford Fielding, Kellum Clark's sliding, Innings 3-9 Saturday, Foxhall's Pitch calls.


Definitely some things to work on and definitely some things that are concerning. I think the fielding will work itself out so just like our thoughts going into the weekend we still are uncertain about our pitching.

You left out Nixion closing on Sun. He was nasty on fast balls and breaking balls. All 3 strikeouts and got screwed on call on that walk. Nixion looked every bit the part of our top closer.

[Commercecomet24]

You left out Nixion closing on Sun. He was nasty on fast balls and breaking balls. All 3 strikeouts and got screwed on call on that walk. Nixion looked every bit the part of our top closer.

Nixon was outstanding, his stuff was absolutely dominate. 2 plus pitches(fb, breaking ball) that are filthy.

[Saltydog]

Nixon was outstanding, his stuff was absolutely dominate. 2 plus pitches(fb, breaking ball) that are filthy.

No doubt. Wonder if he's a guy that can stretch to two innings or if he's just a one inning guy.

[StarkVegasSteve]

No doubt. Wonder if he's a guy that can stretch to two innings or if he's just a one inning guy.

He's probably a six outs max type of guy. And you're probably stretching it to get to 6. Going back to Texas, in 2021 he pitched 34 innings with 27 app. And he was 30 innings in 26 app last year. So he's probably more comfortable in that one inning role but we might could stretch him to two if we ever were in a jam.

[SPMT]

People seem to forget these dudes have all been starters and multi inning throwers since they were 10 years old. Dudes only going 1 inning is ridiculous unless it is based on them losing all command or ?stuff? and I have my doubts at that.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Thinking back on it and having cooled off a bit, the way Saturday unfolded was a WEIRD game. We jump out with 8 runs in the 1st, up 10-1 in the 2nd and KC totally loses command with 4 straight BBs but still seemed like a great spot to give Stinnett a chance to be a leading contributor by putting the fire out... except he didn't (or couldn't).

Other elements adding to the sh!tshow was (1) the home plate ump not helping with his strikezone the size of a postage stamp while not giving any outside pitches (hence all of the walks). Plus, (2) Luke not being able to keep runners from advancing into scoring position by stealing at will further alienated the situation.

Even Dohm pitched well enough to silence their bats until the error, which was on a ball hit in an unlucky spot that was gonna make the play tough anyway. I think Saturday, overall, was just more BAD misfortune than good.

Not making excuses as I hate we lost, but I still think we have the pitchers to make a run back into the top-25 (although we probably don't have a Friday night ace).

A season gets a crazy meltdown, this is fair. That seems to happen every year, even good years.

But Foxy has just used up his 2023 meltdown in game-2, versus a Division-2 team in DNF.

Another good point you make was the strike zone. Our hitters stopped working the zone. After 1 inning. VMI only walked 2 in the remaining 8 innings and only K'ed one. So, it seems MSU started swinging at their pitches and stopped being selective. Even as the Ump stayed selective.