My thought on the portal and nil

[starkvegasdawg]

I'm to the point now I'll cheer for whoever has our jersey on come Saturdays this fall. If you don't want to wear this jersey then just **** smooth the hell off. Not going to miss you. Not going to beg you to come back. You come out of that tunnel and run by the band you have my full support whatever your name is.

[basedog]

One word for Portal/NIL. SUCKS!

[Commercecomet24]

I agree with both SVD and Base!

[Dawgology]

This is the right approach. No different than NFL at this point and the sooner we accept it the more we will all enjoy it.

[Commercecomet24]

This is the right approach. No different than NFL at this point and the sooner we accept it the more we will all enjoy it.

Yes it's moved to the level of professional sports at this point.

[basedog]

I'm amazed at MSU alumni or fans who think it's ok to quit on ur team, then say I might come back but first let me look around. I might think different if a player was a Walter Payton/Emmett Smith type player.

[MadDawg]

This is the right approach. No different than NFL at this point and the sooner we accept it the more we will all enjoy it.

Once NCAA football reaches the same level of interest I have for the NFL, I will have as much free time on Saturdays as I do on Sundays now. And it's not far off.

[StarkVegasSteve]

NIL is not the problem. The problem is the dumb one free transfer rule combined with NIL. That model is just unsustainable. Each one by themselves is not a problem, but combined they are a hell of an issue.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Someone (Paul Jones I think) mentioned a stat that said out of the thousands and thousands of players who have entered the portal only 26 have gone back to their original schools. MSU has 3 of those.

Also, when I hear the word "portal" I think about an English guy zipping around space in a phone booth.

[Commercecomet24]

NIL is not the problem. The problem is the dumb one free transfer rule combined with NIL. That model is just unsustainable. Each one by themselves is not a problem, but combined they are a hell of an issue.

Yes at this point the players have all the leverage and teams have no recourse or anything to keep the player contracted to the team.

[confucius say]

NIL is not the problem. The problem is the dumb one free transfer rule combined with NIL. That model is just unsustainable. Each one by themselves is not a problem, but combined they are a hell of an issue.

Ding Ding Ding.

And the kicker is, while the NIL issue was largely required by a court decision, schools chose on their own to allow the free transfer with immediate eligibility rule. Nobody forced schools to allow that. All time dumb move.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ding Ding Ding.

And the kicker is, while the NIL issue was largely required by a court decision, schools chose on their own to allow the free transfer with immediate eligibility rule. Nobody forced schools to allow that. All time dumb move.

Well the reasoning they gave was that since coaches could change jobs with no penalties then players can change schools without having the sit out. This is incorrect since coaches have to pay buyouts to schools when they leave so they are penalized. So if kids want to start paying their scholarship money back to the university then I have no problem if they want to leave. However, there are currently ZERO repercussions for them leaving.

[Commercecomet24]

Well the reasoning they gave was that since coaches could change jobs with no penalties then players can change schools without having the sit out. This is incorrect since coaches have to pay buyouts to schools when they leave so they are penalized. So if kids want to start paying their scholarship money back to the university then I have no problem if they want to leave. However, there are currently ZERO repercussions for them leaving.

This. The players have the hammer.

[archdog]

Ding Ding Ding.

And the kicker is, while the NIL issue was largely required by a court decision, schools chose on their own to allow the free transfer with immediate eligibility rule. Nobody forced schools to allow that. All time dumb move.

Any student can change schools any time they want. Football players shouldn't be any different.
Now I would add this, the entrance standards to get into college should be the same for all students as well, and there should be documented students with similar grades/entrance testing etc to the lowest accepted football player.

[R2Dawg]

I'm amazed at MSU alumni or fans who think it's ok to quit on ur team, then say I might come back but first let me look around. I might think different if a player was a Walter Payton/Emmett Smith type player.

Agree. This is where we are in our overall culture. Anything goes, all the time. There is no right or wrong or standards or truth, just truth to me, right now. We don't know what a woman is but you better not make a woman related negative comment? Total chaos and confusion rules the day now and everyone thinks that is OK.

[Goldendawg]

Someone (Paul Jones I think) mentioned a stat that said out of the thousands and thousands of players who have entered the portal only 26 have gone back to their original schools. MSU has 3 of those.

Also, when I hear the word "portal" I think about an English guy zipping around space in a phone booth.

Also read a stat that about 47% of them land nowhere, so there goes their scholarship/education. NCAA hasn't addressed this. However, we know all these "student athletes" think they don't need a degree as they are all going to the NFL.***** Sad for many. Many also seem to be dropping a level or so if they so land anywhere. Our only exceptions this year are Locke, Roberson, DJ(TBD), and RaRa who may be redeemed by OM/AU when all is said and done. *** Portal and NIL have put some more nails in the student/athlete coffin with little room for more.

[Extendedcab]

Yes it's moved to the level of professional sports at this point.

Which is why it has lost some appeal to fans! We don't want pro sports we want amateur/college sports like we grew up with (for us old guys anyway)! It is not the same anymore! I don't know if we can put the genie back in the bottle unless they Crete a semi-pro team for 4/5 star players and the rest enroll at a "true" university where they go to class to get a degree, first and foremost!

[Pepper]

Nil and portal don’t work together, it’s more like the nfl with permanent free agency with no salary cap.

[RocketDawg]

Well the reasoning they gave was that since coaches could change jobs with no penalties then players can change schools without having the sit out. This is incorrect since coaches have to pay buyouts to schools when they leave so they are penalized. So if kids want to start paying their scholarship money back to the university then I have no problem if they want to leave. However, there are currently ZERO repercussions for them leaving.

Not to mention there seems to be no consideration that the athletes are supposed to be students as well.

[RocketDawg]

Any student can change schools any time they want. Football players shouldn't be any different.
Now I would add this, the entrance standards to get into college should be the same for all students as well, and there should be documented students with similar grades/entrance testing etc to the lowest accepted football player.

Well - it should go the other way. Athletes should have the same entrance standards as other students.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Even though the portal has given much more to MSU than it has taken away, I still don't like it.