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msstate7
01-19-2023, 12:26 PM
They have a qb with sec experience in dart, who played pretty well. They added Howard, and now they got spencer. Wow.

Really Clark?
01-19-2023, 12:29 PM
I don't see Dart and Spencer both being there come fall.

msstate7
01-19-2023, 12:30 PM
I don't see Dart and Spencer both being there come fall.

Either way, OM wins... they keep the better one

DEDawg
01-19-2023, 12:31 PM
I don't see Dart and Spencer both being there come fall.

Unless I?m mistaken don?t both have to stay? Dart can?t transfer again and I think Sanders now has used his 1 grad transfer. I don?t understand this move by sanders at all

662dawg
01-19-2023, 12:32 PM
They have a qb with sec experience in dart, who played pretty well. They added Howard, and now they got spencer. Wow.

I think they believe Dart is gone. Otherwise doesn't make sense? Sanders is said to be a bad locker room guy & I highly doubt he's come in to be a backup. I'm pretty sure they sold him as the starter, which is a pretty significant downgrade of Dart IMO. Either way this is a win for State fans. Walker made sense, bc they didn't sign one in this last class so they had to get a young guy, but Sanders is absolutely mind boggling unless they think Dart is gonna leave or something. It's said that he will have to sit out a year if he transfers, but others are saying maybe he can get a waiver. I dunno.

Really Clark?
01-19-2023, 12:37 PM
Unless I?m mistaken don?t both have to stay? Dart can?t transfer again and I think Sanders now has used his 1 grad transfer. I don?t understand this move by sanders at all

Dart could possibly be a grad transfer after the spring.

yjnkdawg
01-19-2023, 01:25 PM
OM tells a recruit exactly what the recruit wants to hear, and not actually what the reality of the situation always is. Nothing new there.

bulldawg28
01-19-2023, 01:36 PM
Only one can play and I'm not worried about any of them.

msstate7
01-19-2023, 01:44 PM
I don't know if this is a good strategy by OM or not to stockpile qbs, but I do know I'd trade our qb room for theirs without a second thought. And besides some state fans, everyone would. With that said, I think they'd probably have been better off using funds to upgrade at another position. Perhaps keeping freeze from getting sanders is worth every cent to some rich OM people

Really Clark?
01-19-2023, 01:48 PM
I don't know if this is a good strategy by OM or not to stockpile qbs, but I do know I'd trade our qb room for theirs without a second thought. And besides some state fans, everyone would. With that said, I think they'd probably have been better off using funds to upgrade at another position. Perhaps keeping freeze from getting sanders is worth every cent to some rich OM people

Freeze backed off and Gundy wouldn't take him back. There are some red flags with Sanders.

msstate7
01-19-2023, 01:55 PM
Freeze backed off and Gundy wouldn't take him back. There are some red flags with Sanders.

If OM paid premium for him, then I really don't understand. Maybe once freeze backed off, OM got him cheap. If he's cheap, I don't think it's a bad move. If he's a cancer, cut em

yjnkdawg
01-19-2023, 02:04 PM
I don't know if this is a good strategy by OM or not to stockpile qbs, but I do know I'd trade our qb room for theirs without a second thought. And besides some state fans, everyone would. With that said, I think they'd probably have been better off using funds to upgrade at another position. Perhaps keeping freeze from getting sanders is worth every cent to some rich OM people

In the past ,when they focused all their attention and funds on skilled top rated offensive players, the lack of getting the key defensive positions they needed came back to kick them in the butt. I doubt Freeze had anything to do with the big OM money boosters wanting Sanders, but I guess that's possible. I think they just wanted him period.

PikeDawg15
01-19-2023, 02:08 PM
I don't know if this is a good strategy by OM or not to stockpile qbs, but I do know I'd trade our qb room for theirs without a second thought. And besides some state fans, everyone would. With that said, I think they'd probably have been better off using funds to upgrade at another position. Perhaps keeping freeze from getting sanders is worth every cent to some rich OM people

It?s a good move always to stockpile talent but not at the same position and especially since only 1 QB can be on the field at a time.

Ole miss has lost around 5 defensive starters and others who got good playing time to the portal recently .

They will have to go heavy portal for defense too

This year will prove for sure if the portal is a good strategy because it made them 8-5 last year against the easiest schedule in the sec.

Their schedule is WAY harder next season.

Adding @ UGA
Going to bama
Going to state
Going to a Hugh Freeze Auburn on the plains

LSU will be better
A&M should have beaten them last year and should be better with petrino as OC ( they won?t be much better because jimbo ain?t giving complete control to petrino)

Vandy and Arkansas at home should be their easiest games next season

They also go @ tulane.

Their schedule is daunting next season.

A good year would be 8-4 for them next year

Ari Gold
01-19-2023, 02:41 PM
Good luck keeping that locker room in check
3 guys that were all 3 more than likely promised to start
Can only play one QB
Howard leaves LSU because he was going to be 3rd team and goes to OM where he is still 3rd team .. hahahahaha
Sanders is no better than Dart

But hey we got headlines with star power ...

662dawg
01-19-2023, 02:44 PM
Good luck keeping that locker room in check
3 guys that were all 3 more than likely promised to start
Can only play one QB
Howard leaves LSU because he was going to be 3rd team and goes to OM where he is still 3rd team .. hahahahaha
Sanders is no better than Dart

But hey we got headlines with star power ...

This. Exactly this. This is not going to end well for OM.

viverlibre
01-19-2023, 02:46 PM
Be interesting what NIL deals each QB has. I agree with others, Lane is likely looking to move on from Dart for the 2023 season.

Leroy Jenkins
01-19-2023, 02:48 PM
I cant figure out what these QBs are thinking. Especially Sanders who only has 1 year left IIRC. Oh well, good luck, I guess.

HancockCountyDog
01-19-2023, 02:54 PM
I wouldn't mind a QB transfer to add some depth to our room, so I'm not going to say anything just yet.

yjnkdawg
01-19-2023, 02:57 PM
I cant figure out what these QBs are thinking. Especially Sanders who only has 1 year left IIRC. Oh well, good luck, I guess.

Probably because they were told if you come to OM , you can be the starting QB for a SEC Western Division (power house***) team, and then the $$$$$$. I wonder how Howard is going to enjoy sitting on the bench and possibly holding a clipboard this next season.

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 02:59 PM
Good luck keeping that locker room in check
3 guys that were all 3 more than likely promised to start
Can only play one QB
Howard leaves LSU because he was going to be 3rd team and goes to OM where he is still 3rd team .. hahahahaha
Sanders is no better than Dart

But hey we got headlines with star power ...

om doing what om always does, they spend big on offense while their defense is decaying. They've lost defensive starters and depth from the 2 deep on defense. i guess they're trying to be a big 12 team. All offense and no defense.

HancockCountyDog
01-19-2023, 03:03 PM
om doing what om always does, they spend big on offense while their defense is decaying. They've lost defensive starters and depth from the 2 deep on defense. i guess they're trying to be a big 12 team. All offense and no defense.

Their offense was the problem last year. I thought people exposed kiffy's offense last year, the defense was good enough to win, their offense was below average last year despite the hype.

662dawg
01-19-2023, 03:03 PM
I wouldn't mind a QB transfer to add some depth to our room, so I'm not going to say anything just yet.

Well yea, we will be doing that. We just had 2 4* QBs leave, but IMO you don't bring in someone like Spencer Sanders who is allegedly a bad locker room guy & really hasn't been all that great either with just one year left. I'd almost guarantee that he & Howard both were promised to start. Otherwise it makes no sense since Howard was already 3rd string on a much better team.

Really Clark?
01-19-2023, 03:04 PM
om doing what om always does, they spend big on offense while their defense is decaying. They've lost defensive starters and depth from the 2 deep on defense. i guess they're trying to be a big 12 team. All offense and no defense.

But...Golding is the upgrade!!!***

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 03:10 PM
Their offense was the problem last year. I thought people exposed kiffy's offense last year, the defense was good enough to win, their offense was below average last year despite the hype.

They're defense was very average and they're losing players off an average defense.

State82
01-19-2023, 03:13 PM
There are some red flags with Sanders.

He's also prone to throwing it to members of the opposing team's secondary.

Really Clark?
01-19-2023, 03:14 PM
He's also prone to throwing it to members of the opposing team's secondary.

Averages almost 1 per game over his career.

yjnkdawg
01-19-2023, 03:17 PM
om doing what om always does, they spend big on offense while their defense is decaying. They've lost defensive starters and depth from the 2 deep on defense. i guess they're trying to be a big 12 team. All offense and no defense.

Just like the lack of addressing their defensive needs and plugging defensive holes when Freeze was there.

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 03:20 PM
Just like the lack of addressing their defensive needs and plugging defensive holes when Freeze was there.

They seem to have the same cookie cutter pattern no matter who the coach is.

tribaldawg
01-19-2023, 03:32 PM
Well yea, we will be doing that. We just had 2 4* QBs leave, but IMO you don't bring in someone like Spencer Sanders who is allegedly a bad locker room guy & really hasn't been all that great either with just one year left. I'd almost guarantee that he & Howard both were promised to start. Otherwise it makes no sense since Howard was already 3rd string on a much better team.

Trying to figure out this mess is like trying to figure out why Kiffin thinks he is the only coach in the country that believes you can win by going for it on 4th down at your own 20 on a regular basis. In the end, this will probably work about as well.

Cowbell
01-19-2023, 03:34 PM
Anybody scared of Spencer Sanders didn't watch him play against decent teams. He's not an SEC QB. Dart is better than him and it's not close.

Leroy Jenkins
01-19-2023, 03:35 PM
Guys, I would like to announce that I am transferring to ole miss to play QB with 2 years of eligibility remaining.

bulldawg28
01-19-2023, 03:35 PM
Good luck keeping that locker room in check
3 guys that were all 3 more than likely promised to start
Can only play one QB
Howard leaves LSU because he was going to be 3rd team and goes to OM where he is still 3rd team .. hahahahaha
Sanders is no better than Dart

But hey we got headlines with star power ...

Exactly, they may have 2 Qbs enter the portal by October.

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 03:43 PM
Guys, I would like to announce that I am transferring to ole miss to play QB with 2 years of eligibility remaining.

Excellent! I got a couple years left too! Reckon how much i can get!

Have some rep Leroy!

Leroy Jenkins
01-19-2023, 04:04 PM
Excellent! I got a couple years left too! Reckon how much i can get!

Have some rep Leroy!

Well. "Technically" the clock has expired on my window about 20 years ago, but there may be some kind of waiver.

Ari Gold
01-19-2023, 04:49 PM
Walker Howard to OM makes sense and helps the team
Sanders to OM makes zero sense and only helps the “perception” they want and Kiffin is
Sanders to OM is great because Aub still has no QB

confucius say
01-19-2023, 05:12 PM
I think freeze can develop ashford

ZedFedder
01-19-2023, 05:17 PM
All these QBs for them is fine, but they have lost a ton to the portal on their defense.

StarkVegasSteve
01-19-2023, 05:19 PM
On the surface this makes ZERO sense unless Kiffin has completely lost faith in Dart. I guess I can buy that Walker Howard has been sold that he'll be the starter next year, but if I'm Howard I wouldn't be too confident in that. I mean Kiffin probably told Dart the same thing. And if I'm Spencer Sanders, why in the hell would he transfer there? He's not beating out Dart and I doubt he could beat out Howard. THE ONLY THING I can think that Lane could have sold him on is a massive NIL deal and the chance to be a package/gadget QB.

The flip side of this is amazing though. They have committed AT MINIMUM probably 2+mil in NIL to their offensive backfield and they're hemorrhaging defensive players. They won't have the NIL to build their defense back up. They better hope they can score 50+ every game next year because they won't be able to stop ANYONE

PGHBulldogBG
01-19-2023, 05:27 PM
It doesn’t really seem that strange to me. Howard was not going to be starting this year over Dart. He was going to learn the offense and start in 2024. Sanders and Dart will now be competing for the top QB position. Dart is decent but I think Kiffin knew he had to try and get someone better to have a shot at being in the upper part of the SEC. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out for them.

viverlibre
01-19-2023, 05:27 PM
On the surface this makes ZERO sense unless Kiffin has completely lost faith in Dart. I guess I can buy that Walker Howard has been sold that he'll be the starter next year, but if I'm Howard I wouldn't be too confident in that. I mean Kiffin probably told Dart the same thing. And if I'm Spencer Sanders, why in the hell would he transfer there? He's not beating out Dart and I doubt he could beat out Howard. THE ONLY THING I can think that Lane could have sold him on is a massive NIL deal and the chance to be a package/gadget QB.

The flip side of this is amazing though. They have committed AT MINIMUM probably 2+mil in NIL to their offensive backfield and they're hemorrhaging defensive players. They won't have the NIL to build their defense back up. They better hope they can score 50+ every game next year because they won't be able to stop ANYONE

I'd wager Sanders was "promised" the starting job in 2023. He would not go there and risk fair competition, which could mean riding the pine for this senior year. I'm thinking Lane wants out of the Dart business for whatever reason.

Leroy Jenkins
01-19-2023, 05:30 PM
All these QBs for them is fine, but they have lost a ton to the portal on their defense.

Some of their best defensive guys are in the portal. Of course they may just be looking for a better deal from OM and not actually leaving.

Leroy Jenkins
01-19-2023, 05:32 PM
It doesn’t really seem that strange to me. Howard was not going to be starting this year over Dart. He was going to learn the offense and start in 2024. Sanders and Dart will now be competing for the top QB position. Dart is decent but I think Kiffin knew he had to try and get someone better to have a shot at being in the upper part of the SEC. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out for them.

Sanders and Kiffin obviously think he can win the job or he wouldn't be coming in as a 5th year guy.

yjnkdawg
01-19-2023, 06:17 PM
Sanders and Kiffin obviously think he can win the job or he wouldn't be coming in as a 5th year guy.

Kiffin probably told him that he had the job if he would come to OM. It's going to be interesting and see if this whole QB situation blows up in Kiffin's face and if there becomes any locker room issue(s) develops due to it.

BuckyIsAB****
01-19-2023, 06:36 PM
Either way, OM wins... they keep the better one

It?s a recipe for disaster. This is peak OM

BuckyIsAB****
01-19-2023, 06:37 PM
I don't know if this is a good strategy by OM or not to stockpile qbs, but I do know I'd trade our qb room for theirs without a second thought. And besides some state fans, everyone would. With that said, I think they'd probably have been better off using funds to upgrade at another position. Perhaps keeping freeze from getting sanders is worth every cent to some rich OM people

If you have 3 that means you dont have 1 good one

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 07:08 PM
It?s a recipe for disaster. This is peak OM

I agree.

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 07:10 PM
On the surface this makes ZERO sense unless Kiffin has completely lost faith in Dart. I guess I can buy that Walker Howard has been sold that he'll be the starter next year, but if I'm Howard I wouldn't be too confident in that. I mean Kiffin probably told Dart the same thing. And if I'm Spencer Sanders, why in the hell would he transfer there? He's not beating out Dart and I doubt he could beat out Howard. THE ONLY THING I can think that Lane could have sold him on is a massive NIL deal and the chance to be a package/gadget QB.

The flip side of this is amazing though. They have committed AT MINIMUM probably 2+mil in NIL to their offensive backfield and they're hemorrhaging defensive players. They won't have the NIL to build their defense back up. They better hope they can score 50+ every game next year because they won't be able to stop ANYONE

I see it the same way.

BuckyIsAB****
01-19-2023, 07:17 PM
They have lost more to the portal than any SEC school. If they are not number 1 they are close. The portal is so OM it makes perfect sense for them to use it. They have really found a coach and a system that is just like them

Commercecomet24
01-19-2023, 07:23 PM
They have lost more to the portal than any SEC school. If they are not number 1 they are close. The portal is so OM it makes perfect sense for them to use it. They have really found a coach and a system that is just like them

Remember last year when everyone on here was freaking out about all those awesome portal guys they got? Got em all the way to 8-5 with a fairly easy schedule. When our poor little team couldn't do any better than 9-4 and a top 20 ranking. They've always been about flash and splash.

confucius say
01-19-2023, 07:30 PM
Locker room problems.
And I doubt all 3 are on the roster come September

StarkVegasSteve
01-19-2023, 07:46 PM
I'd wager Sanders was "promised" the starting job in 2023. He would not go there and risk fair competition, which could mean riding the pine for this senior year. I'm thinking Lane wants out of the Dart business for whatever reason.

If Lane wants Dart out of there then we need to be back channeling him this second. Dart, Marks, Price, and Davis in the backfield together with Tulu taking jet sweeps would be a rolling ball of butcher knives.

viverlibre
01-19-2023, 07:53 PM
If Lane wants Dart out of there then we need to be back channeling him this second. Dart, Marks, Price, and Davis in the backfield together with Tulu taking jet sweeps would be a rolling ball of butcher knives.

Concur, hopefully he can take a bunch of sop classes and graduate early and have a grad transfer opportunity.

Cowbell
01-19-2023, 08:48 PM
Howard has to realize this ain't gonna work out....

StarkVegasSteve
01-19-2023, 09:12 PM
Concur, hopefully he can take a bunch of sop classes and graduate early and have a grad transfer opportunity.

Rumor going around over on their boards is that Dart has enough credits to graduate early and would be done by this summer.

msstate7
01-19-2023, 09:15 PM
Rumor going around over on their boards is that Dart has enough credits to graduate early and would be done by this summer.

Headed to auburn this fall?