Tulu to the Portal

[StarkVegasSteve]

And he won't be the last one. A great start to the Barbay era.

[Dawgface]

Hey....we're a run heavy team now. Won't matter.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hey....we're a run heavy team now. Won't matter.

Without run oriented lineman. I think that 2025 HC Hot Board can go ahead and start a year early.

[DJ55]

Without run oriented lineman. I think that 2025 HC Hot Board can go ahead and start a year early.

amen!!! will be lucky to win 5 next year

[Ari Gold]

hmmmmm. And it’s on the Friday that OM has their big portal weekend visitors

[Really Clark?]

Y'all know what this is about.

[Dawgface]

Without run oriented lineman. I think that 2025 HC Hot Board can go ahead and start a year early.

Haven't you heard....these linemen can easily adapt. I guess we will see in the Fall.

[Ari Gold]

Cancel the season now..... we won’t win a game ... Fire Arnete, yada yada yada

[StarkVegasSteve]

Tulu is going to OM and I would imagine there's one more receiver that will follow him.

[civildawg]

This is the type of stuff that will cause my interest in college football to be very low

[Leroy Jenkins]

We are witnessing the decline of CFB right before our eyes.

[Really Clark?]

This is not about scheme or Barbay.

[Dawgface]

This is the type of stuff that will cause my interest in college football to be very low

Yep. Already has for me. I watched less college football than ever last year.

[Dawgface]

This is not about scheme or Barbay.

Money.

[Ari Gold]

If anyone here thinks this is because of the OC hiring, use whatever time it was going to take you type whatever nonsense you were about to and use that time cutting an NIL check to the school

[Leroy Jenkins]

We already had the lowest watched national championship game on record. CFB is losing its......collegeness, for lack of a better term.

[Ari Gold]

Without run oriented lineman. I think that 2025 HC Hot Board can go ahead and start a year early.


You dumb ****s act like we are going to be running the wishbone or power T next year

[Dawgface]

If anyone here thinks this is because of the OC hiring, use whatever time it was going to take you type whatever nonsense you were about to and use that time cutting an NIL check to the school

Not important enough for me to pay players.

[Turfdawg67]

If anyone here thinks this is because of the OC hiring, use whatever time it was going to take you type whatever nonsense you were about to and use that time cutting an NIL check to the school

Timing is impeccable.

[starkvegasdawg]

That mother****er was tweeting everything with a pulse just a couple weeks ago to come play here and for other players to get out of the portal and then he goes and plops his ass in it. I got no words.

[civildawg]

Agreed. Record high inflation and stock market in the tank but please donate more to pay football players with zero loyalty. No thanks. College football can just go away if that?s the case.

[Quaoarsking]

The Arnett Era is off to a pretty poor start. Hope it's not bad omen.

[BeardoMSU]

Agreed. Record high inflation and stock market in the tank but please donate more to pay football players with zero loyalty. No thanks. College football can just go away if that?s the case.

This mentality will make becoming a basement program extra (Hella) fun***

[Ari Gold]

Don?t be shocked if he removes his name before Jan 18
Enjoy the weekend ,

[BeardoMSU]

The Arnett Era is off to a pretty poor start. Hope it's not bad omen.

Outside of this, why do you think that?

[StarkVegasSteve]

So I will actually retract my original statement on this being on Barbay, this is strictly NIL. He has handlers, uncles, etc. in his ear and other programs telling them what they are willing to give him. Our offer is better though. Door is not completely shut.

[Bothrops]

No way we should get outbid for him. What the ****! This is the difference between a win and a loss next season, and if we can't learn the new system in time it will be a shitty year.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Hey....we're a run heavy team now. Won't matter.

It will always matter when systems like this does not attract high level wrs

[Really Clark?]

No way we should get outbid for him. What the ****! This is the difference between a win and a loss next season, and if we can't learn the new system in time it will be a shitty year.

We haven't been. He is being pursued to test the portal though. Let it play out like Ari said

[Commercecomet24]

We haven't been. He is being pursued to test the portal though. Let it play out like Ari said

He's jockeying for more money. He's playing the game.

[Homedawg]

The Arnett Era is off to a pretty poor start. Hope it's not bad omen.

This isn't arnett. This out nil problem. We don't have enough money. Period. At least at present.

[Quaoarsking]

Outside of this, why do you think that?

The bowl game was poor. The OC search was underwhelming (I guess he could surprise though). Moving back to the run-oriented offense that was 120 years of futility for us is a huge disappointment (and I thought he was going to be hands off on the offense?), and now we're losing our top players to the portal.

None of this will matter if we're good this fall, but I am getting some really ominous vibes about the state of our program. 2018, but with a good defense rather than an outstanding one.

[Commercecomet24]

Free agency with no freaking rules

[Quaoarsking]

This isn't arnett. This out nil problem. We don't have enough money. Period.

NIL wasn't an issue with Tulu a few weeks ago. He was not only staying, but recruiting for us.

[Commercecomet24]

This isn't arnett. This out nil problem. We don't have enough money. Period.

This it ain't Arnett. We need more money to play the game it ain't on the head coach.

[Commercecomet24]

NIL wasn't an issue with Tulu a few weeks ago. He was not only staying, but recruiting for us.

He's got people in his ear telling how valuable he is.

[Quaoarsking]

He's got people in his ear telling how valuable he is.

College football would be better off with licensed, formal agents than bagmen in the shadows.

[Homedawg]

NIL wasn't an issue with Tulu a few weeks ago. He was not only staying, but recruiting for us.

Don't be naive. He wanted more.

[Quaoarsking]

Don't be naive. He wanted more.

Well I hope we can get a refund on what we gave him last month...

[Commercecomet24]

Zavion says he's gonna get him back, guess we'll see if he has any influence

[confucius say]

I can't say for sure The OC played no part.

That said, part of the problem is Tulu knows what our other guys got. He knows several people got more than him.

[Commercecomet24]

College football would be better off with licensed, formal agents than bagmen in the shadows.

No question about it right now this is no holds barred steel cage death matches

[Quaoarsking]

I can't say for sure The OC played no part.

That said, part of the problem is Tulu knows what our other guys got. He knows several people got more than him.

College football would also be better off if every NIL had to go through each school's official NIL fund, and everything was published and public. No more secrets or surprises.

(And have a conference-wide luxury tax on those NIL funds to increase competitiveness. Every pro sport in America redistributes money to increase competitiveness.

[gtowndawg]

I love the new version of college football...

https://media.tenor.com/NdezMLQpIh0AAAAM/not.gif

[Commercecomet24]

College football would also be better off if every NIL had to go through each school's official NIL fund, and everything was published and public. No more secrets or surprises.

(And have a conference-wide luxury tax on those NIL funds to increase competitiveness. Every pro sport in America redistributes money to increase competitiveness.

Professional sports figured this out a long time ago.

[SmokeyDawg]

It will always matter when systems like this does not attract high level wrs

What system attracts high level wrs? Air raid? You're an idiot

[Commercecomet24]

I love the new version of college football...

https://media.tenor.com/NdezMLQpIh0AAAAM/not.gif

Yeah it ain't worth a dern.

[911mom]

Ok….. I have not written a check so far ….. this thread just motivated me …. Anybody joining me who hasn’t donated ?

[DEDawg]

This is just insane. How does the NCAA fix this? This is how it will be every single year

[ZedFedder]

https://mobile.twitter.com/robbiefaulk247/status/1614034702989508611?cxt=HHwWhoC-7diAmuYsAAAA

[ZedFedder]

I wouldn’t be shocked to see him come back. Who knows, though.

[PikeDawg15]

If ole miss can pay 9 million for a HC
2 million for a DC
And still out bid us for our own players

We have a major ****ing problem

[PikeDawg15]

I was glad Heath left because he sucked but I can?t lie about tulu. That?s my guy,

[KB21]

He?s going to be very excited to touch the football 2 to 3 times a game in this new offense.

[Dawgface]

He's jockeying for more money. He's playing the game.

Can't you play the game another way? Just tell your coaches that if you don't get this deal by January 13th you're gone. Maybe that's what he did and he didn't get it. But this kind of crap hitting the news is a major turnoff for many even if he reverses his decision.

[Commercecomet24]

Can't you play the game another way? Just tell your coaches that if you don't get this deal by January 13th you're gone. Maybe that's what he did and he didn't get it. But this kind of crap hitting the news is a major turnoff for many even if he reverses his decision.

He's got a lot of people in his ear and I'm sure they're wanting to get theirs too.

[Dawgface]

He's got a lot of people in his ear and I'm sure they're wanting to get theirs too.

That's a lot of pressure on him and probably true.

[AlSwearengen]

If ole miss can pay 9 million for a HC
2 million for a DC
And still out bid us for our own players

We have a major ****ing problem

Olemiss people care more, probably too much.

[662dawg]

He?s going to be very excited to touch the football 2 to 3 times a game in this new offense.

So just like the last offense? In fact I'd argue he would get at least double the touches & likely even more than that in this new offense.

[KB21]

Yep. We are going to run the ball 65% of the time and still get Tulu, Zavion, Justin, Rufus, and Jaden the ball a lot. Just have to figure out how they get touches on 20 passes per game.

[PikeDawg15]

Olemiss people care more, probably too much.

This new AD has got to get to work on this immediately. You can?t tell me ole miss has more than double the money we have

We aren?t using the money we have is our problem.

[BrunswickDawg]

Some of you are acting like Barbary's offense never throws. It's 60/40. They averaged 30 pass attempts a game this year, and the year before at CMU they averaged 35. That's plenty of opportunity for him to get (checks stats) his 3 damn catches a game. This ain't about scheme or OC - it's straight up tampering.

[Matt3467]

This new AD has got to get to work on this immediately. You can?t tell me ole miss has more than double the money we have

We aren?t using the money we have is our problem.

Do we really have the resources though or is it there and not being used? We've always had one of the lowest budgets in the conference.

[Saltydog]

I thought Tulu was out there recruiting for us?

Hmmmm, seems like something must've happened. Wanna bet he ends up in Tuscaloosa or at that other school up the road?

And Arnett loses his most dynamic offensive player.

[662dawg]

Yep. We are going to run the ball 65% of the time and still get Tulu, Zavion, Justin, Rufus, and Jaden the ball a lot. Just have to figure out how they get touches on 20 passes per game.

He'll throw it at least 35 times a game next year. Maybe 40 with the personal we have. This is not the issue.

[PikeDawg15]

Do we really have the resources though or is it there and not being used? We've always had one of the lowest budgets in the conference.

We do have one of the lowest. Problem is I would understand losing players to Alabama , Georgia , auburn , Florida, lsu , Tennessee etc

But ole miss also has one of the lowest budgets in the sec .

[PikeDawg15]

I?m not arguing that we have a lot of money , I?m arguing that ole miss doesn?t have the amount of money to outbid us on stuff we want.

So there something up

Alabama has the money to outbid us for anything but ole miss doesn?t .

[Percho]

Not important enough for me to pay players.

Amen Brother

Yep, the hand basket is almost full and on the way and they want you to out bid someone for football players so you can watch them play a game. Then bid again for the same players next year.

Sing it, Mr. Holly

[LC Dawg]

We had no AD for over two months while tragically losing a head coach and replacing him with a 1st time head coach with a defensive background that took a while to hire a relatively unknown OC that runs a different offense. That is a recipe for losing players - especially on the offensive side.
Selmon doesn't have a ton of experience but hopefully his background and pedigree help him get this shit settled quickly.

[TUSK]

Olemiss people care more, probably too much.

THIS^ people, is the correct answer...

"It" has always been about how much the supporters of a program "cares"...

/thread

[BeardoMSU]

This new AD has got to get to work on this immediately. You can?t tell me ole miss has more than double the money we have

We aren?t using the money we have is our problem.

I have a sinking feeling it's A LOT more that double, tbh.

[Bothrops]

We're ****ed.

[mo7888]

I thought Tulu was out there recruiting for us?

Hmmmm, seems like something must've happened. Wanna bet he ends up in Tuscaloosa or at that other school up the road?

And Arnett loses his most dynamic offensive player.

He was told we were going to continue with the air raid....he likes the air raid.... we made a change and so did he based on our decision.... it is what it is... there will be more coming soon to I'd imagine...

[BeardoMSU]

We had no AD for over two months while tragically losing a head coach and replacing him with a 1st time head coach with a defensive background that took a while to hire a relatively unknown OC that runs a different offense. That is a recipe for losing players - especially on the offensive side.
Selmon doesn't have a ton of experience but hopefully his background and pedigree help him get this shit settled quickly.

Thank you for a some common sense (rational ) perspective-post.

This was never going to be easy or smooth.

[Bdawg]

He's jockeying for more money. He's playing the game.

This is absolutely destroying my interested. If players are getting paid, then they need to sign contracts. If they leave, pay the balance that years contract money back.

[yjnkdawg]

He?s going to be very excited to touch the football 2 to 3 times a game in this new offense.

Everybody should know you wanted us to run a 100% AR offense, which wasn't going to happen no matter who we hired as OC. If Tulu does decide to come back, he should touch the ball both running and catching passes a bunch.

[parabrave]

Without run oriented lineman. I think that 2025 HC Hot Board can go ahead and start a year early.

I seem to remember that we gained more on running plays in the bowl game than passing.

[yjnkdawg]

Yep. We are going to run the ball 65% of the time and still get Tulu, Zavion, Justin, Rufus, and Jaden the ball a lot. Just have to figure out how they get touches on 20 passes per game.

You don't have a clue what he is going to do. He actually wanted to pass the ball at App State more, but apparently the HC wanted more running plays. He can adapt to the players he has too. Running the ball 65% is BS. You can have a running and passing attack both and use whichever one the defense gives you.

[msu15]

Some of y'all owe 34 an apology lol

[Dawgface]

Some of y'all owe 34 an apology lol

For what?

[Cowbell]

He's got a lot of people in his ear and I'm sure they're wanting to get theirs too.

There's always an uncle...

[EdwardDrayton]

He's jockeying for more money. He's playing the game.

He will get more money at Georgia than Rara.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

This is like professional rasslin. Baby faces are turning to heels, and vice versa. Sometimes there is outside influence.

[Commercecomet24]

There's always an uncle...

Every single time.

[yjnkdawg]

The current NIL is a joke and not what it's intent was. It's basically a if we want your current players we will contact them through back door sources to see if they want to get in the portal and come to our school. Used to be all we had to worry about was an OM money booster giving cash to a recruit to get him to go to OM. Those days are long gone.

[yjnkdawg]

He will get more money at Georgia than Rara.

Probably not Georgia.

[Cowbell]

He was told we were going to continue with the air raid....he likes the air raid.... we made a change and so did he based on our decision.... it is what it is... there will be more coming soon to I'd imagine...

You don't know what you are talking about

[SilentSteel16]

Every single time.

Hey I resent that remark. Y’all better hope that this uncle has some pull for ‘25. We will certainly need them….

[yjnkdawg]

He was told we were going to continue with the air raid....he likes the air raid.... we made a change and so did he based on our decision.... it is what it is... there will be more coming soon to I'd imagine...

Uh! Nope

[BuckyIsAB****]

I thought Tulu was out there recruiting for us?

Hmmmm, seems like something must've happened. Wanna bet he ends up in Tuscaloosa or at that other school up the road?

And Arnett loses his most dynamic offensive player.

I like Tulu. But when has he been a dynamic offensive player? He has been a dynamic returner sure. The best in the SEC. But he has not been a great WR

[BuckyIsAB****]

And I dont want to see him go. I like him for the record.

[Saltydog]

I think in the right offense he could be. We just didn't get the ball to him enough in Leach's Air Raid. We wasted him.

[KB21]

https://twitter.com/tuluuuuug/status/1614075680727379968?s=46&t=xQQ-3zUt96-s8tnTfB9nuw

[SilentSteel16]

https://twitter.com/tuluuuuug/status/1614075680727379968?s=46&t=xQQ-3zUt96-s8tnTfB9nuw

He also posted Tulsa offered. That would be Spurrier

[Bothrops]

He also posted Tulsa offered. That would be Spurrier

This isn't making sense

[Cowbell]

Hey I resent that remark. Y?all better hope that this uncle has some pull for ?25. We will certainly need them?.

Do tell.....lol

[Saltydog]

We had no AD for over two months while tragically losing a head coach and replacing him with a 1st time head coach with a defensive background that took a while to hire a relatively unknown OC that runs a different offense. That is a recipe for losing players - especially on the offensive side.
Selmon doesn't have a ton of experience but hopefully his background and pedigree help him get this shit settled quickly.

Bbbbut Arnett was hired for continuity........

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Coaches leave for money. Facilities cost money. Players in HS sign where they get the most money, which you can't blame the impoverished kid for doing. Then, once in school, they can shop themselves around every year for more money. All that matters long term is money.

If OM can pay $6M more for its HC and also pay more for a DC than we offered Briles and also still be even/better to us in NIL, then how are we supposed to become a better program? We are over $6M behind them each year. Unless that changes, they will throw a hundred k at one of our players each year for the lulz, not even cause they want the player.

THAT SAID, players can now do what Kiffin, Briles, and every other coach does- shop themselves around to make the home team fork over money. Did Kiffin or Briles intend to leave? Probably not. And so it is with the Portal- half the time the player that's entering has no intention of actually leaving.

You know how you'll be at work training the new guy and you find out he's making a lot more than you? makes you want to ask for a raise doesn't it? And when the boss says no, you're going to apply to jobs. Well, the Portal is the equivalent of applying to jobs.

[Schultzy]

I can’t wait to see the black market portal 30 for 30

[HancockCountyDog]

If he goes to a team where one of our former coaches landed, then that is on Arnett - not the NIL.

If he goes to UGA or Bama snags a huge deal, then nothing to be done.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If WKU and Tulsa are the best offers he can get then he ain't going nowhere lol, but I suspect real P5 competition will show up. Tulu has too much potential

[Cowbell]

If he goes to a team where one of our former coaches landed, then that is on Arnett - not the NIL.

If he goes to UGA or Bama snags a huge deal, then nothing to be done.

Hahaha if he goes to WK or Tulsa, it's own his own ignorance and none of our coaches.

[Bothrops]

Hahaha if he goes to WK or Tulsa, it's own his own ignorance and none of our coaches.

This isn't making sense

[HancockCountyDog]

Hahaha if he goes to WK or Tulsa, it's own his own ignorance and none of our coaches.

if he goes there, it means we didn't do a great job making him a priority.

Just my two cents.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

So we have a player leave because we dont run enough and one player leave because it looks like we may not pass enough.

[KB21]

WKU will throw it 600 plus times with Drew calling plays.

[CJDAWG85]

Y?all chill out

[yjnkdawg]

If WKU and Tulsa are the best offers he can get then he ain't going nowhere lol, but I suspect real P5 competition will show up. Tulu has too much potential

It won't be.

[yjnkdawg]

So we have a player leave because we dont run enough and one player leave because it looks like we may not pass enough.

1 out of 2.

[Turfdawg67]

The current NIL is a joke and not what it's intent was. It's basically a if we want your current players we will contact them through back door sources to see if they want to get in the portal and come to our school. Used to be all we had to worry about was an OM money booster giving cash to a recruit to get him to go to OM. Those days are long gone.

https://i.postimg.cc/nrtfRqFM/C06-CBF2-D-4-F97-44-E9-A33-E-C4-F0-CE98-D06-F.gif

[BuckyIsAB****]

I think in the right offense he could be. We just didn't get the ball to him enough in Leach's Air Raid. We wasted him.

I dont agree. We tried to get him involved as much as we did anyone else. He hasnt been consistent. There is a lot more to playing WR than running fast and catching the ball. Which he has had some critical drops. He also made some plays. He should stay I want him to stay. He has some things that are God given

[yjnkdawg]

He's got a lot of people in his ear and I'm sure they're wanting to get theirs too.

Too many uncles, mentors, trainers, etc. trying to look out for what best for them and what is not in the best interest of a player or recruit. Sad situation.

[Commercecomet24]

Too many uncles, mentors, trainers, etc. trying to look out for what best for them and what is not in the best interest of a player or recruit. Sad situation.

Yep it's becoming dirtier than aau basketball lol

[Bothrops]

if he goes there, it means we didn't do a great job making him a priority.

Just my two cents.

This is the only thing it means. We got outrun by a Chevy Malibu.

[Cooterpoot]

If WKU and Tulsa are the best offers he can get then he ain't going nowhere lol, but I suspect real P5 competition will show up. Tulu has too much potential

He's either going to OM or AU. 90% chance he's gone. 100% chance he's not the last one.

[yjnkdawg]

Yep it's becoming dirtier than aau basketball lol

I forgot and left off handlers (can be some of the worst of the above).

[yjnkdawg]

He's either going to OM or AU. 90% chance he's gone. 100% chance he's not the last one.

My bet is OM. They wanted him before and couldn't get him.

[Bothrops]

He's either going to OM or AU. 90% chance he's gone. 100% chance he's not the last one.

We won't be beating Auburn anymore and Ole Miss is going to own us in recruiting, NIL, and the portal. I'm about to throw money away elsewhere.

[SPMT]

The transfer rule and nil influence is clearly a huge problem. The lack of an rules/framework make air a complete fee for all unlike many in our society.

You can?t even do this is an routine job without being known as a dollar chaser and getting blackballed. It?s as much as a free for all as can be.

Shocking how we all fall for this when discussing lower level professional athletics. College sports are simply lower level professional sports, typically tied to a smaller population area. Currently, there is little difference from professional sports.

But it also wasn?t fair for universities to make millions off someone and they get nothing in the form of direct money.

[ZedFedder]

He's either going to OM or AU. 90% chance he's gone. 100% chance he's not the last one.

That will be hilarious if he goes to OM, because it will be for one reason and one reason only. I’ll still take our squad.

[CJDAWG85]

Then get off your asses and give more!

[mo7888]

Uh! Nope

Uh...yea he did..... what's happening is predictable and it's staring you in the face.... but don't let facts get in the way of your 1965 football world view..

[Schultzy]

Shocking how ppl freak out over an AA kick returner that watches it go over his head 90% of the time that is also a good but not great receiver.

When will y’all recognize we don’t have to watch the two yard pass plays anymore? We won 9 games this year because of defense and our offense will be better next year by default if nothing else.

[Bothrops]

Criminal organizations run the country, why not sports, why not kids, why not schools, why not us

[confucius say]

This new AD has got to get to work on this immediately. You can?t tell me ole miss has more than double the money we have

We aren?t using the money we have is our problem.

OM has the double number of recurring (monthly/ yearly) members of their initiative than we do. We don't even have 1500 people. It's sad. Charlie is trying to make chicken salad from chicken blank.

[yjnkdawg]

Uh...yea he did..... what's happening is predictable and it's staring you in the face.... but don't let facts get in the way of your 1965 football world view..

I'm not in a 1965 football world but thanks anyway. ........ still looking for the facts but can't find them. He's getting bad or false advice but whatever.

[Dawgface]

I can?t wait to see the black market portal 30 for 30

No doubt....that's coming.

[bulldawg28]

I like Tulu. But when has he been a dynamic offensive player? He has been a dynamic returner sure. The best in the SEC. But he has not been a great WR

Stop this foolishness. When has Will been a great
Qb? Tulu is NFL caliber . All this hating on WR'S you've been doing is biased ignorance. They're playing with a pop Warner Qb.

[msstate7]

Check out this on tRant...

https://i.postimg.cc/5yRk4znn/519-A2777-B984-4-DD9-A15-E-7-ACB8-A80-DE6-E.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Wq07SdRk)

...
The link is arbuckle's Twitter.

Will unhappy?

[BrunswickDawg]

Stop this foolishness. When has Will been a great
Qb? Tulu is NFL caliber . All this hating on WR'S you've been doing is biased ignorance. They're playing with a pop Warner Qb.

If Tulu was NFL talent, he would have stepped up this year and filled the gap that Polk left. He may have NFL tools - but having the talent is more about willingness to work and hone those tools. And he hasn't shown that yet.

[Todd4State]

Stop this foolishness. When has Will been a great
Qb? Tulu is NFL caliber . All this hating on WR'S you've been doing is biased ignorance. They're playing with a pop Warner Qb.

NFL caliber KR/PR? Yes.

NFL caliber WR? No.

[Really Clark?]

Check out this on tRant...

https://i.postimg.cc/5yRk4znn/519-A2777-B984-4-DD9-A15-E-7-ACB8-A80-DE6-E.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Wq07SdRk)

...
The link is arbuckle's Twitter.

Will unhappy?

Let it be 7

[KB21]

Arbuckle is the guy we should have pursued for our job.

[Todd4State]

I think in the right offense he could be. We just didn't get the ball to him enough in Leach's Air Raid. We wasted him.

There's only one football every play and other than the center and QB only one other guy gets to touch the ball 95% of the time.

[Todd4State]

We had no AD for over two months while tragically losing a head coach and replacing him with a 1st time head coach with a defensive background that took a while to hire a relatively unknown OC that runs a different offense. That is a recipe for losing players - especially on the offensive side.
Selmon doesn't have a ton of experience but hopefully his background and pedigree help him get this shit settled quickly.

Yep.

[662dawg]

Stop this foolishness. When has Will been a great
Qb? Tulu is NFL caliber . All this hating on WR'S you've been doing is biased ignorance. They're playing with a pop Warner Qb.

LMAO. Bro I highly doubt Tulu ever sniffs an NFL roster, especially as a receiver.

[yjnkdawg]

Arbuckle is the guy we should have pursued for our job.

CZA didn't think so and he is the one making the calls on who he wants on his staff.

[Spiderman]

And he won't be the last one. A great start to the Barbay era.

According to 99% on here it was a more run hire, and the 1% , like me, were worried about this

[Santiago]

LMAO. Bro I highly doubt Tulu ever sniffs an NFL roster, especially as a receiver.

At the Under Armour game he played CB. Always thought that was a better position for him.

[KB21]

Well, CZA is a meathead who thinks we have to run the ball and control the clock to win.

[yjnkdawg]

According to 99% on here it was a more run hire, and the 1% , like me, were worried about this

If he can't adjust his offense to the strengths of the players we currently have and wants to have a basically run offense then I'm in that 1% with you. I think he can adjust the offense and actually wants to throw the ball more than he was allowed at App State. Nothing says we can't have a good running and passing attack and take whatever the defense gives us, but we will see how it plays out.

[confucius say]

Check out this on tRant...

https://i.postimg.cc/5yRk4znn/519-A2777-B984-4-DD9-A15-E-7-ACB8-A80-DE6-E.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Wq07SdRk)

...
The link is arbuckle's Twitter.

Will unhappy?

Needs to happen. It's time to make the move. I like will but he can't run this system.

[Cowbell]

Well, CZA is a meathead who thinks we have to run the ball and control the clock to win.
Calling CZA a meathead when he was more responsible for the wins this year than our head coach tells me all I need to know about your insight.

[confucius say]

If he can't adjust his offense to the strengths of the players we currently have and wants to have a basically run offense then I'm in that 1% with you. I think he can adjust the offense and actually wants to throw the ball more than he was allowed at App State. Nothing says we can't have a good running and passing attack and take whatever the defense gives us, but we will see how it plays out.

Then he better find a qb. Because will can't be a big time passer in this offense. His skill set is accuracy and decision making. This ain't that. He has the worst arm in the league, can't move. I like him a lot, but it's time to make the move.

[msstate7]

Needs to happen. It's time to make the move. I like will but he can't run this system.

Well it would be nice if we had another qb

[Cowbell]

Well it would be nice if we had another qb
I'm not worried about this. A wide open QB position in the SEC west don't open everyday. All but about 25 starting QBs in the country will atleast think about jumping ship for this opportunity,

[Lord McBuckethead]

17 more money. Catch the 17n ball.

[KB21]

You mean he?s responsible for the almost 40 ppg we averaged in wins? Or is he responsible for the 33.4 ppg we gave up in losses?

[Bdawg]

Then get off your asses and give more!

If you think I?m about to take money away from my family and give it to these money chasers who already get free school, books, food, etc., you are sadly mistaken. Money these days will only buy you loyalty for maybe a year. Then off to the next school who will pay the most. Im not going to tell others how to spend their money, especially if they have money to burn, but I for one, don?t. And secondly, won?t, when I can?t get a refund when they walk right out door.

[RezDog7]

Agreed. Record high inflation and stock market in the tank but please donate more to pay football players with zero loyalty. No thanks. College football can just go away if that?s the case.

I agree. There is absolutely no way in hell I'm paying some kid to play college football when I've got two of my own kids to send to college. Screw college football.

[Bdawg]

I agree. There is absolutely no way in hell I'm paying some kid to play college football when I've got two of my own kids to send to college. Screw college football.

We all knew this crap was coming and is going to ruin a truly great sport. I wonder if the NCAA is even discussing this shit storm? They better hurry up to keep me interested.

[Activated Alpha]

I fully agree. I am not going to throw my money away at some amateur sport players who will constantly chase more money and expect more handouts next year. Ever since I got into fantasy, I have enjoyed NFL more than college.

[msstate7]

I fully agree. I am not going to throw my money away at some amateur sport players who will constantly chase more money and expect more handouts next year. Ever since I got into fantasy, I have enjoyed NFL more than college.

I've preferred nfl for about 5 years now. It's a far superior product

[CJDAWG85]

If you think I?m about to take money away from my family and give it to these money chasers who already get free school, books, food, etc., you are sadly mistaken. Money these days will only buy you loyalty for maybe a year. Then off to the next school who will pay the most. Im not going to tell others how to spend their money, especially if they have money to burn, but I for one, don?t. And secondly, won?t, when I can?t get a refund when they walk right out door.

Then **** off and don?t bitch when we lose a player because of money. You?re the type of bitch that?s what?s wrong with our fan base.

[Bdawg]

Then **** off and don?t bitch when we lose a player because of money. You?re the type of bitch that?s what?s wrong with our fan base.

Maybe I’m the bitch that prioritizes my family over a football game. Be sure to donate enough that puts you in a financial bind and buys that uncle a car on the side. Then try to scrap up some more before that uncle can go get another one from OM the next year. Ha ha

BTW, I’m not bitching for losing players. I’m mad they have ruined the sport.

[Cowbell]

We all knew this crap was coming and is going to ruin a truly great sport. I wonder if the NCAA is even discussing this shit storm? They better hurry up to keep me interested.

NCAA has no more power but they were a corrupt POS organization anyway.

[Bdawg]

NCAA has no more power but they were a corrupt POS organization anyway.

Yep. I just want it fixed. This is a mess.

[civildawg]

Then **** off and don?t bitch when we lose a player because of money. You?re the type of bitch that?s what?s wrong with our fan base.

See I don?t get this attitude. The whole point of NIL was to give businesses or companies that wanted to pay athletes for advertising, autographs, etc a way they could. Now it?s morphed into regular middle class fan take money away from your family to pay a football player for a year that may or may not be good. The system is broken and is about to come crashing down

[confucius say]

Losing Tulu makes keeping Zavion really important. He can replace that production.

[CJDAWG85]

This is the world we live in now. Do as you please. But understand there?s a school up north that will alway try to pick off our players.

[CJDAWG85]

You need to understand that OM went all in on this NIL deal. We did not. Not sure what else you need to know.

[Bothrops]

Losing Tulu makes keeping Zavion really important. He can replace that production.

Maybe as a receiver.

[Bothrops]

You need to understand that OM went all in on this NIL deal. We did not. Not sure what else you need to know.

If he goes there that's a very bold move on his part, and their's.

[DesotoDog1967]

Tulsa right?

[CJDAWG85]

Heath 2.0

[PikeDawg15]

Another thing that should piss people off

Our pride and joy the wonderful baseball.

The year after we finally win the national title

Ole miss gets one too.

[MetEdDawg]

Isaiah Brevard to the portal from Oregon.

Possible Tulu replacement? He might like to come back to Mississippi.

[bulldawg28]

If Tulu was NFL talent, he would have stepped up this year and filled the gap that Polk left. He may have NFL tools - but having the talent is more about willingness to work and hone those tools. And he hasn't shown that yet.

Step up how? Any route he runs over 10 yards vertically is ignored by the Qb.

[TorpedoIPA]

If you think I?m about to take money away from my family and give it to these money chasers who already get free school, books, food, etc., you are sadly mistaken. Money these days will only buy you loyalty for maybe a year. Then off to the next school who will pay the most. Im not going to tell others how to spend their money, especially if they have money to burn, but I for one, don?t. And secondly, won?t, when I can?t get a refund when they walk right out door.


Good post.

It's like the reason the cost of higher education has skyrocketed. The federal government threw so much money at it and the schools were happy to take it. Those that give blindly to these NIL organizations are only making the situation worse in my opinion. At some point, sanity needs to prevail and fans have to say no.

[MrCoachKlein]

This mentality will make becoming a basement program extra (Hella) fun***

I enjoy state football as much as anyone, but if you don't think I'm gonna put my wife and kids ahead of it and have 3 years worth of food water and $ then I don't know what to tell you...the poo is flying towards the fan at light speed

[MrCoachKlein]

I can't say for sure The OC played no part.

That said, part of the problem is Tulu knows what our other guys got. He knows several people got more than him.

Tulu should want to play for this PC more than any other. Jet sweeps and slot up the seam for days. Then you have the bubbles and occasional wildcat

[EdwardDrayton]

He's got a lot of people in his ear and I'm sure they're wanting to get theirs too.

With a circle like that, I just want to adopt him so he can have an existence where no one wants anything from him. Just sad.

[EdwardDrayton]

You need to understand that OM went all in on this NIL deal. We did not. Not sure what else you need to know.

I take 'all in' to mean overpaying. So it's not that we do not have the money, it's we are trying to attach an appropriate value to a player. Sound business model and let's face it, this is a business now. If someone else is willing to pay more, so be it and good luck with that decision. But the answer is not raise more funds every time this happens. If everyone does that, we'll just see rampant and never-ending inflation to these deals. We have to put a foot in the ground.

[msudawg1200]

You need to understand that OM went all in on this NIL deal. We did not. Not sure what else you need to know.

Ole Miss is going to be like that NFL or MLB franchise that tries to buy a championship and always ends up sucking worse than the ones that build from within.

[MrCoachKlein]

If Tulu was NFL talent, he would have stepped up this year and filled the gap that Polk left. He may have NFL tools - but having the talent is more about willingness to work and hone those tools. And he hasn't shown that yet.

This. Tulu is one of my favorite players but he's a lot more athlete than WR. Lot to work on and should've been in the slot where his elite quickness was his primary weapon

[MrCoachKlein]

Needs to happen. It's time to make the move. I like will but he can't run this system.

Will can't run an RPO offense that doesn't require a running qb?

He did that in high school....

Sick of uninformed/ignorant narratives

[MrCoachKlein]

Then **** off and don?t bitch when we lose a player because of money. You?re the type of bitch that?s what?s wrong with our fan base.

Imagine calling someone you don't know a bitch because they'd rather take care of their family than sports divas.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Stop this foolishness. When has Will been a great
Qb? Tulu is NFL caliber . All this hating on WR'S you've been doing is biased ignorance. They're playing with a pop Warner Qb.

No it?s not. Just truth. Tulu didnt even play a whole lot of WR bc he couldnt do all the little things. Sorry

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will can't run an RPO offense that doesn't require a running qb?

He did that in high school....

Sick of uninformed/ignorant narratives

Correct

[DEDawg]

Imagine calling someone you don't know a bitch because they'd rather take care of their family than sports divas.

okay I get this to an extent, but acting like a $10 recurring monthly donation is taking food out of your families mouth is a stretch. If you fundamentally don't support it, then whatever. But $10 a month is not financially ruining anyone.

[662dawg]

Well, CZA is a meathead who thinks we have to run the ball and control the clock to win.

You do know that our version of the air raid was a ball control passing attack correct?

You do also know that Barbay's offense isn't based on ball control & calls for way more explosive plays than the Leach air raid correct? Or are you just spouting off about something you seem to know nothing about?

[R2Dawg]

The bowl game was poor. The OC search was underwhelming (I guess he could surprise though). Moving back to the run-oriented offense that was 120 years of futility for us is a huge disappointment (and I thought he was going to be hands off on the offense?), and now we're losing our top players to the portal.

None of this will matter if we're good this fall, but I am getting some really ominous vibes about the state of our program. 2018, but with a good defense rather than an outstanding one.

NC teams run the ball. We ain't going to run the wish bone.

What did the air raid get us? A 4-7 year one year. Yeah we don 9 last year but half the teams we beat sucked. Two plays from 500.

Yall act like the air raid made us a championship contender. Stop the stupidity.

We going to be fine.

[Commercecomet24]

With a circle like that, I just want to adopt him so he can have an existence where no one wants anything from him. Just sad.

100%

[mo7888]

You mean he?s responsible for the almost 40 ppg we averaged in wins? Or is he responsible for the 33.4 ppg we gave up in losses?

This

[bulldawg28]

No it?s not. Just truth. Tulu didnt even play a whole lot of WR bc he couldnt do all the little things. Sorry

BS, what little things? We ran 5 plays? It gets no smaller than that. The route concepts were simple.

[Really Clark?]

The boys on the team are working on Tulu. Let it keep playing out.

[Commercecomet24]

I don't do Twitter but my son just told me tulu removed his portal tweet. Anyone else see this?

[Really Clark?]

I don't do Twitter but my son just told me tulu removed his portal tweet. Anyone else see this?

He has but he is still in the portal. Boys keep working on him!

[Commercecomet24]

He has but he is still in the portal. Boys keep working on him!

I can vouch for 3 who are working on him hard. I'm glad I don't do Twitter too, lol!

[BuckyIsAB****]

BS, what little things? We ran 5 plays? It gets no smaller than that. The route concepts were simple.

If you are who you say you are you know there is a lot more to it than that. He was so good he couldnt consistently play over RaRa and Ducking. That is all you need to know. I am not attacking the kid. His play in the egg bowl is one of the best plays in state history

[trob115]

This. He is a great athlete, but he really does struggle getting in and out of routes. His footwork is sloppy. I hope he comes back because he will be a great weapon in the slot.

[Todd4State]

You do know that our version of the air raid was a ball control passing attack correct?

You do also know that Barbay's offense isn't based on ball control & calls for way more explosive plays than the Leach air raid correct? Or are you just spouting off about something you seem to know nothing about?

There are always deep options in the Air Raid on almost every play. There is a reason why it looked different with Costello against LSU than it did with Will.

We don't know at this point what Barbay is going to do here next year. Down the road- yes. Next year without TE's as of now- for me it's wait and see until we actually get some on the roster. Until then I'm expecting a lot more 3-4 WR sets which yes could change if we add tight ends but we're not going to add guys just to add them. And don't count on Antonio Harmon just switching over because we say so on a message board.

Also- don't assume that our WR's are just going to automatically start catching every deep pass just because Barbay dials it up. That's not how this works. That was an issue last year and has been for awhile which is why Leach wanted to get some WR's in the portal in the offseason. And if we don't add at least someone else legit it's going to be an issue again.

And before anyone says it getting man coverage isn't going to free up any one any more than a WR sitting all by himself in zone coverage in a spot.

[Todd4State]

NC teams run the ball. We ain't going to run the wish bone.

What did the air raid get us? A 4-7 year one year. Yeah we don 9 last year but half the teams we beat sucked. Two plays from 500.

Yall act like the air raid made us a championship contender. Stop the stupidity.

We going to be fine.

And how many 9 win seasons do we have in school history? I guarantee you I could go through all of our 9 win+ seasons which won't take long because there are less than 10 of them all time and half the schedule would be teams that sucked for every single one of them. And I could show you at least 10 seasons where we didn't beat all of the teams that sucked. So at worst the Air Raid was no worse than running it up the gut with the QB and probably gave us a much higher ceiling since we were only in year three and never got to year four and five with it.

[bulldawg28]

If you are who you say you are you know there is a lot more to it than that. He was so good he couldnt consistently play over RaRa and Ducking. That is all you need to know. I am not attacking the kid. His play in the egg bowl is one of the best plays in state history

I know there's more. However, the Leach air raid was not a conventional route tree or offensive strategy. Rafa is SEC legitimate imo. Ducking wasn't used properly imo. I too think the kid can play and it hurts if we lose him especially now with an offense that would utilize his big play ability.

[KB21]

You do know that our version of the air raid was a ball control passing attack correct?

You do also know that Barbay's offense isn't based on ball control & calls for way more explosive plays than the Leach air raid correct? Or are you just spouting off about something you seem to know nothing about?

Yeah. That?s why Jim McElwain has had such an impact on offense at every level. Everyone wants to use his concepts. It is such a genius move to hire one of his prot?g?s. Nobody wants a Leach protege. Everyone wants a McElwain guy though.

[confucius say]

Will can't run an RPO offense that doesn't require a running qb?

He did that in high school....

Sick of uninformed/ignorant narratives

Yes bc HS is the same as the SEC.
I love will and all he's done for us. But he cannot stretch the field vertically. He has the weakest arm in the sec

[yjnkdawg]

There are always deep options in the Air Raid on almost every play. There is a reason why it looked different with Costello against LSU than it did with Will.

We don't know at this point what Barbay is going to do here next year. Down the road- yes. Next year without TE's as of now- for me it's wait and see until we actually get some on the roster. Until then I'm expecting a lot more 3-4 WR sets which yes could change if we add tight ends but we're not going to add guys just to add them. And don't count on Antonio Harmon just switching over because we say so on a message board.

Also- don't assume that our WR's are just going to automatically start catching every deep pass just because Barbay dials it up. That's not how this works. That was an issue last year and has been for awhile which is why Leach wanted to get some WR's in the portal in the offseason. And if we don't add at least someone else legit it's going to be an issue again.

And before anyone says it getting man coverage isn't going to free up any one any more than a WR sitting all by himself in zone coverage in a spot.



Actually we don't know any of that. I think he wanted to pass more at App State but the HC wanted more run plays. I think he will use whatever the defense will give us whether it be passing or running. I think he wants to use whatever offensive strategy play calling that will score points. I think but I don't know.

[SilentSteel16]

okay I get this to an extent, but acting like a $10 recurring monthly donation is taking food out of your families mouth is a stretch. If you fundamentally don't support it, then whatever. But $10 a month is not financially ruining anyone.


Then **** off and don?t bitch when we lose a player because of money. You?re the type of bitch that?s what?s wrong with our fan base.

2 things 1) top post? I would much rather give 10$ a month for a smoothie that I will shit out in 8 hours then to give to a bunch of kids that are entitled. They are pretending to be pros right now because this broken system enables them to act this way.

2) bottom post? your post is one of the most juvenile posts that I have every seen. Grow up and get a life, fandom is one thing but being a fanatic about a team or players who couldn?t give two shits about you is another. I personally could not care any less if OM takes every player that is willing to defile their own character and word for a pay bump.

[yjnkdawg]

You do know that our version of the air raid was a ball control passing attack correct?

You do also know that Barbay's offense isn't based on ball control & calls for way more explosive plays than the Leach air raid correct? Or are you just spouting off about something you seem to know nothing about?

To sum it up. He doesn't care. He wanted an offense exactly like we had which wasn't going to happen no matter who we hired as our OC.

[yjnkdawg]

I can vouch for 3 who are working on him hard. I'm glad I don't do Twitter too, lol!

Two extremes. Some players working hard to keep him and some idiots on message boards and twitter posting good riddance.

[SilentSteel16]

Two extremes. Some players working hard to keep him and some idiots on message boards and twitter posting good riddance.

Kind of like the idiots on here saying good riddance to Rogers. Especially when only other QB on roster is a true freshman.

[Commercecomet24]

Two extremes. Some players working hard to keep him and some idiots on message boards and twitter posting good riddance.

Yep you right!

[yjnkdawg]

Kind of like the idiots on here saying good riddance to Rogers. Especially when only other QB on roster is a true freshman.

100% agree

[KB21]

Two extremes. Some players working hard to keep him and some idiots on message boards and twitter posting good riddance.

Let me guess. You have been hoping that we would dump the air raid for a pro style offense that needs elite talent to be successful. Because that?s what we hired.

[yjnkdawg]

Let me guess. You have been hoping that we would dump the air raid for a pro style offense that needs elite talent to be successful. Because that?s what we hired.

Well, you guessed wrong again but keep guessing if it makes you feel better. He does run some air raid concepts. What you want is a fantasy offense. No coach but CML ran that, and I liked CML, but no coach we hired would run what he did. Will said if you saw a running play he called it at the line of scrimmage. You have to have some diversity.

[KB21]

Well, you guessed wrong again but keep guessing if it makes you feel better. He does run some air raid concepts. What you want is a fantasy offense. No coach but CML ran that, and I liked CML, but no coach we hired would run what he did. Will said if you saw a running play he called it at the line of scrimmage. You have to have some diversity.

Hmm. How often does he use 10 personnel? Run 4 verticals? Mesh? Shallow? Does he rep routes the way Leach did in practice?

[662dawg]

Let me guess. You have been hoping that we would dump the air raid for a pro style offense that needs elite talent to be successful. Because that?s what we hired.

This is so off base that I feel like you're just trolling now. Barbay's offense does not need elite talent to be successful anymore than Mike Leach's offense did. In fact, Barbay's offense will likely mask some of Will's deficiency's not to mention it will take tons of pressure off of him so it doesn't have to be on his shoulders almost every play, every game.

[yjnkdawg]

This is so off base that I feel like you're just trolling now. Barbay's offense does not need elite talent to be successful anymore than Mike Leach's offense did. In fact, Barbay's offense will likely mask some of Will's deficiency's not to mention it will take tons of pressure off of him so it doesn't have to be on his shoulders almost every play, every game.

Bingo

[Leroy Jenkins]

https://twitter.com/TuluuuuuG/status/1614392013335445506?s=20&t=ZKuIUDot9N9_edvv-o45KQ


Need to stop overreacting to players. We all know they are just renegoting their deals.

[Leroy Jenkins]

You need to understand that OM went all in on this NIL deal. We did not. Not sure what else you need to know.

I don't know that they did, I know they want people to think so. David Johnson said on Bounds show that they went through their big transfer recruiting weekend with no commitments.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

I don't know that they did, I know they want people to think so. David Johnson said on Bounds show that they went through their big transfer recruiting weekend with no commitments.

Kind of looking like Ole Miss used most of their dough on Kiffin.

[Ari Gold]

Look for Walker Howard to commit to them shortly

[msstate7]

Look for Walker Howard to commit to them shortly

Nice pull. What does that mean for dart? If I were auburn, I'd be trying to get him

[TorpedoIPA]

Well, you guessed wrong again but keep guessing if it makes you feel better. He does run some air raid concepts. What you want is a fantasy offense. No coach but CML ran that, and I liked CML, but no coach we hired would run what he did. Will said if you saw a running play he called it at the line of scrimmage. You have to have some diversity.

I say run when the alignment of the defense dictates that we run. Running for the sake of running is stupid. I like leaving that decision up to Will Rogers.

Anyway, the air raid got the ball into the hands of the running backs a lot. Why is it so important that the QB only hand it to them ?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Nice pull. What does that mean for dart? If I were auburn, I'd be trying to get him

He already transferred once, have to sit.

[Really Clark?]

Nice pull. What does that mean for dart? If I were auburn, I'd be trying to get him

Nothing. Walker sits behind Dart for a year.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

I would think Dart will play this year at Ole Miss then leave for the draft.

[msstate7]

Nothing. Walker sits behind Dart for a year.

So Walker fine with riding bench at OM, but not lsu? Strange

[Ari Gold]

So Walker fine with riding bench at OM, but not lsu? Strange

Over rated

[Really Clark?]

So Walker fine with riding bench at OM, but not lsu? Strange

He wasn't beating out Ness, this is a quicker path, if he wins the job in 2024

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nice pull. What does that mean for dart? If I were auburn, I'd be trying to get him

If he commits to OM then we need to put feelers out to Dart. He would be electric in this new offense.

[HancockCountyDog]

Over rated

I hope you are right, the LSU folks down here were pumped when they got him. They figured he would be a monster for them. I don't know about him other than I was told he was going to TCU which is why TCU bailed on Sawyer.

[HancockCountyDog]

If he commits to OM then we need to put feelers out to Dart. He would be electric in this new offense.

I take Rogers over Dart all day.

[msstate7]

I take Rogers over Dart all day.

That would be very debatable. Dart is better in passer rating, QBR, and rushing. In our old offense, will would certainly be better, but in our new? I don't know

[Lord McBuckethead]

Why donate when anyone can take the money for the next 3-4 months and just get a new deal somewhere else and not have to return the money.

Seems like all funds should be returned if someone transfers, plus interest.

[msstate7]

Why donate when anyone can take the money for the next 3-4 months and just get a new deal somewhere else and not have to return the money.

Seems like all funds should be returned if someone transfers, plus interest.

If you're gonna spend, I think it makes more sense to spend on a transfer. As long as they make you sit on 2nd transfer, this seems to be the best investment

[Bdawg]

If you're gonna spend, I think it makes more sense to spend on a transfer. As long as they make you sit on 2nd transfer, this seems to be the best investment

No doubt. Maybe that?s one reason Kiffin is strong in the portal. If guys have multiple years to play, they are more locked in for the long haul because they don?t want to sit a year.

Other thing to consider, players in the portal may cost more than just maintaining your own.

[KB21]

I say run when the alignment of the defense dictates that we run. Running for the sake of running is stupid. I like leaving that decision up to Will Rogers.

Anyway, the air raid got the ball into the hands of the running backs a lot. Why is it so important that the QB only hand it to them ?

More often than not, a run play is a wasted play.

[MrCoachKlein]

Let me guess. You have been hoping that we would dump the air raid for a pro style offense that needs elite talent to be successful. Because that?s what we hired.

What pro teams run out of the pistol 99% of the time? Are you watching the CFL *

[Pancho]

No doubt. Maybe that?s one reason Kiffin is strong in the portal. If guys have multiple years to play, they are more locked in for the long haul because they don?t want to sit a year.

Other thing to consider, players in the portal may cost more than just maintaining your own.

He also runs a shit program that allows the players to run ruff shod over the managers and other personnel on the field. He had several just quit and refuse to listen to him over this issue. He's pure garbage as a person and is only worried about himself as are the players who are simply worried about the name on the back of the jersey.

[Todd4State]

That would be very debatable. Dart is better in passer rating, QBR, and rushing. In our old offense, will would certainly be better, but in our new? I don't know

Based on what I've seen the new guy doesn't run the QB a lot.

[Todd4State]

I take Rogers over Dart all day.

I would too. And I wouldn't be surprised if Kiffin would agree with us on that either.

[msstate7]

More often than not, a run play is a wasted play.

Out of the top 10 total offenses nationally, only 3 were pass heavy

[HancockCountyDog]

Based on what I've seen the new guy doesn't run the QB a lot.

he doesn't he uses a lot of play action and really needs a game manager, which I think Will could do, i'm just not sure he wants to change so drastically.

He has been running the Air Raid type offense for almost 6 years now, counting high school. Its a big shift to start taking pistol and under center snapsl.

[Todd4State]

That would be very debatable. Dart is better in passer rating, QBR, and rushing. In our old offense, will would certainly be better, but in our new? I don't know

If he's that good- or should I say if Kiffin thinks he is that good- why create a QB controversy unless you are 100% sure that the guy you are bringing in is better. And based on Howard's body of work I don't see how anyone can say that.

With Ole Miss it's always about the shiny new toy. Same as it is with Kiffin.

The problem is if Kiffin keeps treating his QB this way word is going to get out and it's going to hurt him in the long run. Portal QB's want to go where they can start- not have to compete.

[Todd4State]

he doesn't he uses a lot of play action and really needs a game manager, which I think Will could do, i'm just not sure he wants to change so drastically.

He has been running the Air Raid type offense for almost 6 years now, counting high school. Its a big shift to start taking pistol and under center snapsl.

I agree. My hope is that he transitions to whatever he wants to do slowly rather than do what usually happens- just install the whole thing and hope for the best.

It's going to be a question until September.

[msstate7]

If he's that good- or should I say if Kiffin thinks he is that good- why create a QB controversy unless you are 100% sure that the guy you are bringing in is better. And based on Howard's body of work I don't see how anyone can say that.

With Ole Miss it's always about the shiny new toy. Same as it is with Kiffin.

The problem is if Kiffin keeps treating his QB this way word is going to get out and it's going to hurt him in the long run. Portal QB's want to go where they can start- not have to compete.

I wondered the same, but apparently he will be locked in at OM now unless he wants to sit out a year. Maybe it is just to have a capable backup and replacement down the line for dart. Who knows though

[Todd4State]

Out of the top 10 total offenses nationally, only 3 were pass heavy

Yeah. Well when you have a lead you run the ball.

[Todd4State]

I wondered the same, but apparently he will be locked in at OM now unless he wants to sit out a year. Maybe it is just to have a capable backup and replacement down the line for dart. Who knows though

I'm sure he could get out of there if he gets a degree and goes the grad transfer route. Still would have to compete at least for a year though.

[Cowbell]

More often than not, a run play is a wasted play.

This has to be top 5 worst takes I've ever seen on this site.

[HancockCountyDog]

More often than not, a run play is a wasted play.

That might be the dumbest thing i've seen posted on this board and that is saying something.

[msstate7]

Yeah. Well when you have a lead you run the ball.

Maybe. I looked at the #1 total offense (Tenn) in a contested game (bama). Tenn took the lead on their last drive, so they didn't run the ball to use clock. The final breakdown was 39 runs to 31 rushes... this is 55.7% run heavy. Tenn on the year was 55.3% run heavy

I'm not doing that for them all.

[Todd4State]

Maybe. I looked at the #1 total offense (Tenn) in a contested game (bama). Tenn took the lead on their last drive, so they didn't run the ball to use clock. The final breakdown was 39 runs to 31 rushes... this is 55.7% run heavy. Tenn on the year was 55.3% run heavy

I'm not doing that for them all.

That's very much a vaccum.

[msudawg1200]

He also runs a shit program that allows the players to run ruff shod over the managers and other personnel on the field. He had several just quit and refuse to listen to him over this issue. He's pure garbage as a person and is only worried about himself as are the players who are simply worried about the name on the back of the jersey.

No doubt to this. As I've stated in other posts, Ole Miss looks like the NFL or MLB team that just buys players to be buying them with no rhyme or reason. These team usually have zero chemistry and never win squat.

[msstate7]

That's very much a vaccum.

#4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams

[HancockCountyDog]

#4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams

Tulane was a run first team.

[Commercecomet24]

#4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams

Yeah there's a reason every head coach from Saban to nfl say you have to be able to run the ball and stop the run. Being able to do both is critical to being consistently succesful

[KB21]

That might be the dumbest thing i've seen posted on this board and that is saying something.

https://staturdays.com/2019/09/23/should-you-ever-run-the-ball/

[msstate7]

https://staturdays.com/2019/09/23/should-you-ever-run-the-ball/

We led the country in pass attempts, but we finished #62 in total offense. We were 79th in yds/play

[BuckyIsAB****]

I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion