UGA Game

[parabrave]

One ugly ass game.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Skreet Fight

[EdwardDrayton]

We suck on offense. But we do it consistently.

[Really Clark?]

We suck on offense. But we do it consistently.

There's something to be said about consistency...I guess???

[MoreCowbell]

We are legit just not good

[EdwardDrayton]

This may be the ugliest half of college basketball I've ever seen.

[msstate7]

We scored 22 in the 1st half of our other sec road game. We're at the under 4 with 11 pts tonight. I thought we were bad offensively under howland. Jans is horrible at coaching offense

[civildawg]

I?ve never seen a sec basketball team this bad at offense. I?m serious

[Lord McBuckethead]

1-9 from free throw. WTF.
Down by 1 at half.

[R2Dawg]

Worst offensive team in school history. I think I could play blindfolded and hit more shots than we do. Unreal.

[HoopsDawg]

We scored 22 in the 1st half of our other sec road game. We're at the under 4 with 11 pts tonight. I thought we were bad offensively under howland. Jans is horrible at coaching offense

I can't put this all on Jans. DJ Jeffries is supposed to be a player. He's 1-9. He's killing us.

We are 2-10 on FT's and a couple of those were front ends of 1 and 1's. We are getting wide open looks. We don't have the players.

[CJDAWG85]

I?ve never seen a D-1 team suck so bad at shooting. This is comical how bad they are at the most important aspect of BASKETBALL

[Lord McBuckethead]

If they start hitting the kick out three we will lose this game.

If we hit 50% of our FT in the second half and keep them under 30% from 3 we win.

It is that simple.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Coach needs to tell DJ Jeffries to stop playing around and commit to shooting the ball.

[msudawg1200]

I can't put this all on Jans. DJ Jeffries is supposed to be a player. He's 1-9. He's killing us.

We are 2-10 on FT's and a couple of those were front ends of 1 and 1's. We are getting wide open looks. We don't have the players.

I could shoot 10 FT's blindfolded and make two. It's not that hard. I played a little basketball in high school, and while not a good basketball player I could shoot. I think I shot like 77% from the line. They'd put me in to shoot the technicals and get fouled at the end. Some of basketball is hard. Shooting FT's at a 70% clip shouldn't be.

[R2Dawg]

I can't put this all on Jans. DJ Jeffries is supposed to be a player. He's 1-9. He's killing us.

We are 2-10 on FT's and a couple of those were front ends of 1 and 1's. We are getting wide open looks. We don't have the players.

DJ kills us every game. He can't shoot anything. He takes bad shots.

[R2Dawg]

I could shoot 10 FT's blindfolded and make two. It's not that hard. I played a little basketball in high school, and while not a basketball player I could shoot. I think I shot like 77% from the line. Some of basketball is hard. Shooting FT's at a 70% clip shouldn't be.

In my playing days, I'm pretty sure I could hit 50% FT blindfolded. It is a memory shot every time it is the same. We must practice FT to miss to be this bad.

[msstate7]

DJ kills us every game. He can't shoot anything. He takes bad shots.

If you're correct that Dj kills every game, someone needs to sit DJ. Who would that someone be?

[R2Dawg]

If you're correct that Dj kills every game, someone needs to sit DJ. Who would that someone be?

I've said before that we ain't playing the right guys the right minutes. Jans is taking too long to figure this out. With DJ, he talked him into staying so harder to sit him too much but it needs to happen. His minutes go somewhere else.

[NCMSTFAN]

I can't put this all on Jans. DJ Jeffries is supposed to be a player. He's 1-9. He's killing us.

We are 2-10 on FT's and a couple of those were front ends of 1 and 1's. We are getting wide open looks. We don't have the players.

It's not all on Jans, players have to score themselves but Jans' offensive sets in the half court look bad. It's a collection of bad offense across the board from the players to coaches, I'm serious when I say I can't remember any team we've had being this bad offensively and that includes Rick Ray's teams.

[msstate7]

Now don't get me wrong, I still really like jans. I just feel he has some real warts offensively

[MoreCowbell]

Like seriously how can free throws be this bad

[RocketDawg]

1-9 from free throw. WTF.
Down by 1 at half.

Any idea how Tolu was at free throws in high school?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Tolu Fouled. That is a turnover.

0-6 FT today.
Make that 0-7

At some point, make that dude back up a step.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Seriously. Make him stand at the back of the free throw circle and shoot FT. He literally cannot make something at 15 feet.

[MoreCowbell]

If you're correct that Dj kills every game, someone needs to sit DJ. Who would that someone be?

DJs athleticism and rebounding outweigh his offense. He needs to be on the court

[Lord McBuckethead]

We should be up 10 pts right now. Get this shit fixed or play the other guy and let Tolu sit.

[Lord McBuckethead]

DJs athleticism and rebounding outweigh his offense. He needs to be on the court

This team will make it as far as DJ leads us. He plays bad, we lose. He plays good we win. Tolu is a huge liability due to his 0-7 from the line. I would rather have the other guy in there. He can shoot and finish at the rim.

[RocketDawg]

Neither team is very good.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That foul on Shaq was bullshit.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We aren’t winning this game. We never were going to win there. UGA is improved and we can’t score. The only road teams we might beat and must beat are USC and Ole Miss

[Really Clark?]

First team to 40 wins?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Foul on Mathews was bullshit. Never touched the guy.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Foul on McNair. Total BS

[EdwardDrayton]

Can they possibly be that bad again in the second half?!!? Why yes, yes they can.

[Really Clark?]

Ark 29 Bama 28 with 1:47 left in the first half...our same score in the second

[BuckyIsAB****]

I have never played organized basketball one second of my life. And aint very good at unorganized but I can make 2-16 free throws

[Lord McBuckethead]

These refs are pathetic. McNair had position and did not lead into contact.

Then they called Mathews for a phantom foul.

Then they called Shaq for a foul after Georgia guy just ran him over in the open court.

All three were complete fabrications or exactly the opposite call should have been made.

[Homedawg]

I've said before that we ain't playing the right guys the right minutes. Jans is taking too long to figure this out. With DJ, he talked him into staying so harder to sit him too much but it needs to happen. His minutes go somewhere else.
While I'm no dj fan, who is better?? He is 11th in the league rebounding.

[Lord McBuckethead]

At age 40, at 260 LBs 5-9. I could put shoot our team from the stripe. Any day, after drinking.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Stevensons minutes needs to go to the other dude that is super lanky.

Although that mid range shot is sweet. Turn and pop. Keep it up.

[HoopsDawg]

While I'm no dj fan, who is better?? He is 11th in the league rebounding.

He has to play, but maybe not 30+ minutes every game.

[EdwardDrayton]

Kirby looks like he's thinking "they don't pay me enough for this"

[Really Clark?]

Kirby looks like he's thinking "they don't pay me enough for this"

They should have let him give the halftime speech.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Is Murphy hurt? He can fill up the bucket and has better energy than Jones Jr and Stevenson.

[HoopsDawg]

Shak Moore is our best player in case any one was wondering.

[HoopsDawg]

Is Murphy hurt? He can fill up the bucket and has better energy than Jones Jr and Stevenson.

He can shoot, but the rest of your statement is incorrect.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We play incredibly hard. I am all for Jans

[Lord McBuckethead]

Shaq gets ran over in the open floor. Travel called.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Murphy is tall, rebounds, passes well, and can score the ball. No one else on our team checks all those boxes.

[Really Clark?]

Wait, Tolu made free throws??

[EdwardDrayton]

We play incredibly hard. I am all for Jans

< slaps knee and chuckles >

[Lord McBuckethead]

He can shoot, but the rest of your statement is incorrect.

Jones Jr is no where to be found when he is on the court. 100% non-factor.

Stephenson has three turn overs, he got called for fouls because he actually set picks on our own defenders and has only 2 pts.

[HoopsDawg]

Murphy is tall, rebounds, passes well, and can score the ball. No one else on our team checks all those boxes.

a little more Murphy, a little more DJ is fine by me

[BuckyIsAB****]

< slaps knee and chuckles >

I dont get it.

[HoopsDawg]

Please get him out of there coach!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

I dont get it.

Just struck me like a teacher at a parent conference "your son tries really hard". Just made me chuckle.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I’m actually surprised we were picked to finish 10th in the SEC with how limited our offensive talent is

[Lord McBuckethead]

Give Mathews the ball and get out of his way.
He was fouled too.

[HoopsDawg]

Finally to the bench. We are down 3.

[PGHBulldogBG]

It’s just so frustrating because if we shoot 70% from the line we are up 8

[Lord McBuckethead]

We play incredibly hard. I am all for Jans

Agreed. We are going to start upgrading shooting talent and will be hell on wheels.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Yep. Just 70% and we would be up pretty big in this one, maybe even beat Bama.

[msstate7]

7/22 for FTs

[R2Dawg]

Moore and Matthews our best two players.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It sucks having a guy at the line to shoot 2 and we are down 2 and you know he is going to miss atleast one.

[msstate7]

Whatever jams is doing to practice FTs isn't working.

[R2Dawg]

Lose this game, I give us a 15-20% chance to make tourney.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Please kick out to Davis here.

[Goldendawg]

Shak Moore is our best player in case any one was wondering.

And Jans prefers to play the 3 guards he brought in that contribute very little.

[msstate7]

It's over. We lost at the FT like again. Start dedicating half of practice to them

[PGHBulldogBG]

We were never winning this game from the getgo. The only road games we might possibly win are SC and Ole Miss

[Lord McBuckethead]

Missed 10 FT, down 5. Great.

[HoopsDawg]

exruciating loss.

[Lord McBuckethead]

The lineup has to be Mathews, McNair, Murphy, Shark, and Davis.

[msstate7]

Richard Williams said we're a 48% FT shooting team in sec play

[Goldendawg]

Lose this game, I give us a 15-20% chance to make tourney.

You don't make the tourney with any team this terrible on offense that hits about 50% in SEC from the foul line also. This is brutal to watch. Jans doesn't know who his top 8 players are because he doesn't have 8 SEC level players.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Sham more was 8 inches from that guy. WTF refs.

[CovertDawg]

How does Murphy not see the court in the second half?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well. FTs did us in.

[Lord McBuckethead]

How does Murphy not see the court in the second half?

No idea. How is Murphy not starting. No one can hit a shot.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Well. FTs did us in.

I’m curious the last time we had good free throw shooting. I can never remember it. Kind of like with football we never have good special teams

[cheewgumm]

Jans should be National coach of the year with this team.

They just can?t shoot.

We need to play some walk ons that can pop 3s.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I’m curious the last time we had good free throw shooting. I can never remember it. Kind of like with football we never have good special teams

We've never been this bad. EVER. We were 7-22 tonight. You could go find fans in the stands that would shoot better than that percentage.

[CovertDawg]

We also are 11-34 from 2. We don't just stink at Free Throws. We lack touch at finishing and floaters too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We should be up by 2 right now. What a joke.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We just can't shoot period. It's truly amazing we have no one that can shoot. At this rate we need to just go to the Sanderson and find a couple of guys who can knock a 3 down.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Murphy in.

[EdwardDrayton]

We're not making the tourney and honestly kinda glad we're not. Our team is bad and Jans has a lot of work to do before next season to show us something.

[Goldendawg]

No idea. How is Murphy not starting. No one can hit a shot.

Jans prefers to play his people, even minutes tonight for a walk on, Jones. Stevenson, his three guards in Davis, Reed, & Horton contribute very little. Tolo is a headcase this early in the season. Give McNair more minutes until he gets it together. His horrible free throw average is killing us.

[CJDAWG85]

Legit question? how is this a D-1 basketball team?!?

[CJDAWG85]

You?ll make a lot money betting against this disaster this year.

[msstate7]

Doesn't include tonight's FT disaster...
Difference this year from last...

DJ down 20.1%
Tolu down 9.7%
Matthews up 18.4%
Davis up 1%
Reed down 6.5%
Moore down 7.3%

[NCDawg]

Jans prefers to play his people, even minutes tonight for a walk on, Jones. Stevenson, his three guards in Davis, Reed, & Horton contribute very little. Tolo is a headcase this early in the season. Give McNair more minutes until he gets it together. His horrible free throw average is killing us.

Looks like he gets nervous when fans start hollering.

[EdwardDrayton]

Legit question? how is this a D-1 basketball team?!?

Well we weren't in the first eighteen minutes of the game.

[Goldendawg]

Legit question? how is this a D-1 basketball team?!?

This team shows very little. Time to give Murphy, Hamilton, and maybe even Russell more minutes. Playing hard-nosed D means little if you can't score or even hit FT's. This is bad.

[Goldendawg]

Looks like he gets nervous when fans start hollering.

He's only a Senior. He will figure it out in a couple of covid years.**

[Lord McBuckethead]

Murphy can shoot.
Reed Jr can shoot.
Davis can shoot when he catches and shoots.
The guy with the red small dreds can shoot.
DJ should be able to shoot, but he really should pump fake and drive and dish.

Tolu is 100% a liability. Cannot score around the rim. Goes up weak. Doesn?t use the various angles to the backboard like L Roberts and Mario Austin used to do. When he gets fouled, it basically is a turnover. Tolu needs to learn he is terrible at the rim. He needs the ball at about the 10 foot distance and work to the basket. If he is within 5 feet it is practically a turnover because he isn?t making layups at a high enough %.

My lineup starting next game would be, McNair, Murphy, Mathews, Davis, and Shak.

Early sub to Tolu, Reed Jr, Jeffries, Stephenson.

Shak to play additional minutes and then rotate Reed and Davis and Shak.

Our offense should be rotate corner looks, looking for the cut to the basket, and kick outs for spot 3s and backside crashing the board.

If we can get it to the elbow, look for cutters and kick outs.

[Lord McBuckethead]

This team shows very little. Time to give Murphy, Hamilton, and maybe even Russell more minutes. Playing hard-nosed D means little if you can't score or even hit FT's. This is bad.

Hamilton, dang I couldn?t remember that guys name. Yes they all need more minutes. And I wouldn?t be worried for who we are taking off the court, they can?t make shots anyway.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Unfortunately we are about to lose 4 of the next 5. That will put us 2-6 and 13-8 overall. We have to go 7-3 in the back half of our schedule if we want to make the tournament. That means winning all the home games at that point and @USC and @Ole Miss. Unfortunately, I don’t think our FT shooting will allow that

[EdwardDrayton]

We're sixteen games in. What we see is what we have. This is a talent issue and we just have to ask what do we want to get out of the last fifteen games. I'll have to think about that one.

[Dawg2003]

Has the recruiting picked up? Can Jans recruit?

[msstate7]

Has the recruiting picked up? Can Jans recruit?

We have 3 3-stars and an UR player signed. We're 10th in the sec in composite, but the teams we're ahead of only have 1 commit or 2. Our avg per recruit is worst in the sec. In fact our avg per recruit is the worst in the sec since 2020 mizzou.

[EdwardDrayton]

We have 3 3-stars and an UR player signed. We're 10th in the sec in composite, but the teams we're ahead of only have 1 commit or 2. Our avg per recruit is worst in the sec. In fact our avg per recruit is the worst in the sec since 2020 mizzou.

Gotta go slow for me 7. What's a UR player? Unranked/unrated maybe?

[msstate7]

Gotta go slow for me 7. What's a UR player? Unranked/unrated maybe?

Yes.

Actually 2020 mizzou only signed 1 player. The last sec school that signed 3 or more with an avg per recruit less than 86 was South Carolina in 2016. On paper, this is an abysmal class

[State82]

Gotta go slow for me 7. What's a UR player? Unranked/unrated maybe?

Yep

[Goldendawg]

Hamilton, dang I couldn?t remember that guys name. Yes they all need more minutes. And I wouldn?t be worried for who we are taking off the court, they can?t make shots anyway.

Tang Hamilton is his Dad.

[Goldendawg]

Has the recruiting picked up? Can Jans recruit?
NM. Would be piling on.

[NCMSTFAN]

Has the recruiting picked up? Can Jans recruit?

So far his recruiting has been bad. None of the players he brought in this year have been good and the recruiting class he currently has for next year looks no better on paper.

Jans is recruiting New Mexico State style players to the SEC and that won't work.

[EdwardDrayton]

OK guys if you will lead me by the hand a little here. As much as I love sports have never been a big fan of following recruiting. But for our basketball team it is critical.

Have most high school seniors already decided where they are going to play in college and signed or is that still open for us to upgrade talent? And when will the portal open for basketball?

[Goldendawg]

Yes.

Actually 2020 mizzou only signed 1 player. The last sec school that signed 3 or more with an avg per recruit less than 86 was South Carolina in 2016. On paper, this is an abysmal class

Based on year to date, he will play them ahead of Howland's last young recruits, if they are still here.

[StarkVegasSteve]

OK guys if you will lead me by the hand a little here. As much as I love sports have never been a big fan of following recruiting. But for our basketball team it is critical.

Have most high seniors already decided where they are going to play in college and signed or is that still open for us to upgrade talent? And when will the portal open for basketball?

44 of the top 50 have already signed and and 78 of the top 100. Out of the top 100 only 7 or 8 are uncommitted. Portal will open at the end of the season and that will be when we have to get an infusion of talent.

[NCMSTFAN]

Jans prefers to play his people, even minutes tonight for a walk on, Jones. Stevenson, his three guards in Davis, Reed, & Horton contribute very little. Tolo is a headcase this early in the season. Give McNair more minutes until he gets it together. His horrible free throw average is killing us.
I've noticed that as well. I don't know what he sees in the guys he brought in but none of them are SEC caliber. The closest of the guys he brought is Davis but he isn't consistent

[Turfdawg67]

7-22 FTs??? I would make everyone on the team shoot 100 FTs, every practice. Unacceptable

[EdwardDrayton]

44 of the top 50 have already signed and and 78 of the top 100. Out of the top 100 only 7 or 8 are uncommitted. Portal will open at the end of the season and that will be when we have to get an infusion of talent.

Wow. So guessing there was an early signing period in the fall and a large number signed early. Where does it show who we have in this 2023 class already. Is it realistic to believe we can score some real talent via the portal with NIL money?

[msstate7]

7-22 FTs??? I would make everyone on the team shoot 100 FTs, every practice. Unacceptable

In conference...
45/91 (.495)

[EdwardDrayton]

In conference...
45/91 (.495)

Oh my gosh. It's even worse than I intuitively thought.

[EdwardDrayton]

We have 3 3-stars and an UR player signed. We're 10th in the sec in composite, but the teams we're ahead of only have 1 commit or 2. Our avg per recruit is worst in the sec. In fact our avg per recruit is the worst in the sec since 2020 mizzou.

OK. Found the four players you're referring to. Three front guys and one unrated shooting guard. Hoo boy. So understand now why Starkvegas basically said it's the portal for us or bust.

[Goldendawg]

I've noticed that as well. I don't know what he sees in the guys he brought in but none of them are SEC caliber. The closest of the guys he brought is Davis but he isn't consistent

Davis played on a Oregon State team that went 3-28, 1-19 in the conference last year. Best player on a bad team might be a real stretch here.

[schddog72]

We play incredibly hard. I am all for Jans

THIS!! If Howland was still here, we would be getting beat by 20+ to the likes of UM, USCe, UGA, etc. We have great athletes who have been taught to play great defense, but they possess less than mediocre basketball talent. They have no "touch" around the rim (hence the number of missed layups and other short point-blank shots, and they are horrible free throw shooters. You cannot make chicken salad out of chiicken shat. I'm all for Jans and I'm sure he will find some basketball players out there somewhere.

[Reunion Dog]

Jeffries sucks and has since Day 1. Memphis couldn?t WAIT to have that scholarship opened up.

[Reunion Dog]

He sucks too.

[msstate7]

THIS!! If Howland was still here, we would be getting beat by 20+ to the likes of UM, USCe, UGA, etc. We have great athletes who have been taught to play great defense, but they possess less than mediocre basketball talent. They have no "touch" around the rim (hence the number of missed layups and other short point-blank shots, and they are horrible free throw shooters. You cannot make chicken salad out of chiicken shat. I'm all for Jans and I'm sure he will find some basketball players out there somewhere.

Maybe, kugel and Walton look like they coulda helped us.

[TALL DAWG]

If i were Coach I?ll run the entire team TODAY until they either threw up or passed out. 32% FT shooting with several misses being front end of 1 and 1s.
#TotalUnacceptableBS