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Lord McBuckethead
01-09-2023, 12:35 PM
I would imagine he would like to stay in the NFL versus coming back to college, but wouldn't that be interesting. Come be Co-HC OC and lets get rolling.

Big4Dawg
01-09-2023, 12:36 PM
Kliff - Head Coach of Offense
Arnett - Head Coach of Defense.

one could dream

DEDawg
01-09-2023, 12:38 PM
Kliff would only do this if he could work remotely 100% of the time lol

Lord McBuckethead
01-09-2023, 12:38 PM
That would be awesome. Also, taking over for Leach has to something he would at least consider even if it is just a temporary position for him as in two-three years to readjust to a new HC position somewhere.

Lord McBuckethead
01-09-2023, 12:39 PM
Kliff would only do this if he could work remotely 100% of the time lol

I don't think so. Kliff would probably want the same arrangement that Leach had. time to spend at his own place.

msstate7
01-09-2023, 12:39 PM
Probably, but he did come from TT

Homedawg
01-09-2023, 12:39 PM
I would imagine he would like to stay in the NFL versus coming back to college, but wouldn't that be interesting. Come be Co-HC OC and lets get rolling.

So you're telling me there's a chance..... better chance of sly returning..

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2023, 12:41 PM
Kliff - Head Coach of Offense
Arnett - Head Coach of Defense.

one could dream

Jerry Buss tried that once....it lasted for a grand total of 5 minutes. I doubt Kliff ever comes back to college. He's not like Saban or Spurrier, successful college coaches who just didn't work out. He wasn't successful at the college level either.

Really Clark?
01-09-2023, 12:41 PM
I suspect he looks at OC jobs in the NFL first then sit at home for $5.5 Mil if he doesn't get one.

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2023, 12:44 PM
I suspect he looks at OC jobs in the NFL first then sit at home for $5.5 Mil if he doesn't get one.

Sitting at home in Scottsdale with 10 mil already in the bank and another 5.5 on the way......I love Starkville and would take that 10 times out of 10. Talent is just a tad bit better out there.

Really Clark?
01-09-2023, 12:46 PM
Sitting at home in Scottsdale with 10 mil already in the bank and another 5.5 on the way......I love Starkville and would take that 10 times out of 10. Talent is just a tad bit better out there.

And that's $5.5 through 2027, just signed that extension last year.

Dawgface
01-09-2023, 01:04 PM
And that's $5.5 through 2027, just signed that extension last year.

I would collect my checks and maybe do a little announcing on the side just for grins.

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2023, 01:13 PM
I would collect my checks and maybe do a little announcing on the side just for grins.

I wouldn't do crap. I'd wait for that direct deposit to hit and just smile when the Cardinals are still 5-12 or 6-11 next year because they're stuck with that Kyler Murray contract for the foreseeable future.

Tough Dawg
01-09-2023, 01:15 PM
He will stay in the NFL at some capacity.

Cowbell
01-09-2023, 01:19 PM
He will stay in the NFL at some capacity.

Yes because he sucked as a college coach. Those teams were bad. TT has m done nothing but improve since. He was the equivalent of Jomo here. Arizona was stupid for hiring him to begin with.

MaroonFlounder
01-09-2023, 01:23 PM
He had Patrick Mhomes at TT, and that offense looked less than stellar.

I've never gotten the fascination with Kingsbury

LC Dawg
01-09-2023, 01:27 PM
Does he have any eligibility left?

HancockCountyDog
01-09-2023, 01:30 PM
Biggest problem in hiring an NFL guy is that they get used to not recruiting and once you get to just coach football and not text 16 year olds, it is hard to go back unless you have no other choice.

SPDawgs
01-09-2023, 01:31 PM
His years at Texas Tech (2013-2018) Tech averaged 37.6 points per game I think it is very safe to say that offense was not his problem there. If we can get 30 points a game with Arnett's defense it would be a fun time

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2023, 01:34 PM
He had Patrick Mhomes at TT, and that offense looked less than stellar.

I've never gotten the fascination with Kingsbury

Two things: Johnny Manziel and he's a good looking guy. Programs and organizations get stars in their eyes thinking about the marketability of this young, single HC that runs an exciting offense. And to be honest, I would too. The payoff is so great that you can talk yourself into thinking the risk is worth it. He's Kiffin with better looks and worse results.

smootness
01-09-2023, 01:39 PM
This has a 0% chance of happening. Kingsbury is not coming here to be anything less than full HC and it's pretty doubtful even then. And Arnett is not making his first big move as HC the hiring of any sort of co-HC.

msstate7
01-09-2023, 01:40 PM
He had Patrick Mhomes at TT, and that offense looked less than stellar.

I've never gotten the fascination with Kingsbury

2015 TT was 8th nationally in FEI
2016 TT was 7th nationally in FEI

2015 TT was 2nd in total offense nationally
2016 TT was 1st in total offense nationally

2015 TT was 2nd in scoring off nationally
2016 TT was 5th in scoring off nationally

Commercecomet24
01-09-2023, 01:44 PM
2015 TT was 8th nationally in FEI
2016 TT was 7th nationally in FEI

2015 TT was 2nd in total offense nationally
2016 TT was 1st in total offense nationally

2015 TT was 2nd in scoring off nationally
2016 TT was 5th in scoring off nationally

Yeah the offense wasn't the problem. Their problem was they had ZERO defense They got blown out in a game where they scored 58 points, lol.

PikeDawg15
01-09-2023, 02:04 PM
This is my dream as well but it has a 0% chance of happening

The only way he would come is if he was offered the Head Coach position which would he about a 5% chance of him coming even then


He?s going to be an NFL OC

College head coach at a upper mid tier power 5 or above

Or Alabama , USC, or Georgia Offensive coordinator

I don?t think he would even be an OC for let?s say an Auburn type program that is top 15ish.

Lord McBuckethead
01-09-2023, 02:13 PM
Yeah the offense wasn't the problem. Their problem was they had ZERO defense They got blown out in a game where they scored 58 points, lol.

He didn't have Arnett. See, what I am pointing out there?

Lord McBuckethead
01-09-2023, 02:13 PM
What about the Rams Head Coach. He is looking to be fired here shortly.

msstate7
01-09-2023, 02:15 PM
What about the Rams Head Coach. He is looking to be fired here shortly.

What you taking about? Mcvay isn't getting fired, 0%. He's contemplating retirement like Sean Payton

Cowbell
01-09-2023, 02:20 PM
2015 TT was 8th nationally in FEI
2016 TT was 7th nationally in FEI

2015 TT was 2nd in total offense nationally
2016 TT was 1st in total offense nationally

2015 TT was 2nd in scoring off nationally
2016 TT was 5th in scoring off nationally

What was their record

Cowbell
01-09-2023, 02:23 PM
Yeah the offense wasn't the problem. Their problem was they had ZERO defense They got blown out in a game where they scored 58 points, lol.

Their defense was so bad that they helped the offense. They allowed opposing teams to score quickly and get their offense the ball back. It looked like 7v7 out there.

msstate7
01-09-2023, 02:27 PM
What was their record

Does it matter? I was referring to a comment that said their "OFFENSE looked less than stellar"

Commercecomet24
01-09-2023, 02:34 PM
Their defense was so bad that they helped the offense. They allowed opposing teams to score quickly and get their offense the ball back. It looked like 7v7 out there.

Lol, yes it did! I watched them every week because it was pretty entertaining.

I remember reading on the meltdown board from ttu someone saying, It's like Kliff gets to the game on Saturday and goes oh crap we forgot to practice defense this week! Another one was: How do you score 58 points and get blown out?.

PGHBulldogBG
01-09-2023, 02:47 PM
CZA should at least reach out. I just hope if he does a certain reporter doesn’t get wind of it. I think that fool breaking the news about Briles is part of the reason Briles stopped any interest. That being said I don’t think Briles would have came here anyway, but it was definitely the final straw. I doubt we get Kliff, but it’s worth reaching out to see if he has any interest for 2-2.5 mill if that’s what we really were close to offering Briles

MaroonFlounder
01-09-2023, 02:57 PM
Mahomes would have been so much better in college if Leach was still there at that time.

But, I'm biased, I guess. I was a Mike Leach fan LONG before he came to MSU.

Coach34
01-09-2023, 03:07 PM
Mahomes would have been so much better in college if Leach was still there at that time..

How? He literally led the country in passing in 2016. Was the 2nd QB selected in the 2017 draft (gotta love the Bears drafting Trubisky)

TrapGame
01-09-2023, 03:14 PM
CZA should at least reach out. I just hope if he does a certain reporter doesn’t get wind of it. I think that fool breaking the news about Briles is part of the reason Briles stopped any interest. That being said I don’t think Briles would have came here anyway, but it was definitely the final straw. I doubt we get Kliff, but it’s worth reaching out to see if he has any interest for 2-2.5 mill if that’s what we really were close to offering Briles

The only reason CZA would reach out to KK would be to get his opinion on possible OC candidates with Air Raid pedigrees. Kliff putting in a good word with a couple top tier candidates would go a long way.

I wouldn't insult a former NFL head coach by offering him a measly college OC job.

BuckyIsAB****
01-09-2023, 03:15 PM
Cant hurt to find out. I would say 1 out of 100 shot but he was really close with Leach andI actually reached out to a player or two after he passed. Good guy

the_real_MSU_is_us
01-09-2023, 03:17 PM
Non of this matters. Kliff hates recruiting so will stay out of college of he can. And of he does come back to college, he might get a HC job. And of he doesnt, his offensive resume and BOBs issues this year mean Saban would kick BOB to the curb to hire Kliff. And even then, he may just sit on his ass instead of coaching anywhere.

So no, he's not coming here to be the OC at Mississippi State under a 1st year HC he's got no connections too. Not sure what the point in discussing him more is

BuckyIsAB****
01-09-2023, 03:19 PM
Worst he can say is no

Cowbell
01-09-2023, 03:23 PM
Does it matter? I was referring to a comment that said their "OFFENSE looked less than stellar"

It was a serious question. I support that their offense was legit with Maholmes

msstate7
01-09-2023, 03:24 PM
It was a serious question. I support that their offense was legit with Maholmes

Not good. He's a good offensive coach, not a good HC

Cowbell
01-09-2023, 03:25 PM
Lol, yes it did! I watched them every week because it was pretty entertaining.

I remember reading on the meltdown board from ttu someone saying, It's like Kliff gets to the game on Saturday and goes oh crap we forgot to practice defense this week! Another one was: How do you score 58 points and get blown out?.


Lol - I am surrounded by tech fans and remember when the women gave up on him being a good coach and just watched the games to stargaze at him.

Commercecomet24
01-09-2023, 03:35 PM
Lol - I am surrounded by tech fans and remember when the women gave up on him being a good coach and just watched the games to stargaze at him.

Wow!

PMDawg
01-09-2023, 04:02 PM
(gotta love the Bears drafting Trubisky)

Ouch!! Forgot about that. I bet some folks have nightmares about that decision. LOL

SPMT
01-09-2023, 04:04 PM
Better chance he goes to Bama as OC for a year then here. He?s not coming here.

msstate7
01-09-2023, 04:21 PM
I want him as the saints OC

Homedawg
01-09-2023, 05:11 PM
Cant hurt to find out. I would say 1 out of 100 shot but he was really close with Leach andI actually reached out to a player or two after he passed. Good guy

Save the time of making the call......

KB21
01-09-2023, 05:18 PM
I'm curious to see of Marcus Arroyo's name starts coming up. He most recently was the head coach at UNLV. Prior to that, he was the OC at Oregon for Cristobal. He's been with the Buccaneers in the NFL, coached at Southern Miss on Todd Monken's staff, and coached for Sonny Dykes at Cal.

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2023, 06:36 PM
I'm curious to see of Marcus Arroyo's name starts coming up. He most recently was the head coach at UNLV. Prior to that, he was the OC at Oregon for Cristobal. He's been with the Buccaneers in the NFL, coached at Southern Miss on Todd Monken's staff, and coached for Sonny Dykes at Cal.

That's a name I haven't heard at all, but would very interested in. That UNLV job is a pit so I don't judge him on that at all. Marcus would be a hell of a hire IMO. He's got Sonny's version of the Air Raid in his pocket. Run a lot of the same concepts we do except he adds the TE in there.

R2Dawg
01-09-2023, 06:43 PM
Kliff - Head Coach of Offense
Arnett - Head Coach of Defense.

one could dream

CZA is HC period, make no mistake.

Msujd164
01-09-2023, 06:50 PM
He. Is. Not. Coming. Here.

He can sit on his ass and make more. Let it go.

Lord McBuckethead
01-09-2023, 08:46 PM
I'm curious to see of Marcus Arroyo's name starts coming up. He most recently was the head coach at UNLV. Prior to that, he was the OC at Oregon for Cristobal. He's been with the Buccaneers in the NFL, coached at Southern Miss on Todd Monken's staff, and coached for Sonny Dykes at Cal.

I like this idea.

Really Clark?
01-09-2023, 08:50 PM
I'm curious to see of Marcus Arroyo's name starts coming up. He most recently was the head coach at UNLV. Prior to that, he was the OC at Oregon for Cristobal. He's been with the Buccaneers in the NFL, coached at Southern Miss on Todd Monken's staff, and coached for Sonny Dykes at Cal.

I wouldn't mention his year at USM...oof

Todd4State
01-09-2023, 08:51 PM
Non of this matters. Kliff hates recruiting so will stay out of college of he can. And of he does come back to college, he might get a HC job. And of he doesnt, his offensive resume and BOBs issues this year mean Saban would kick BOB to the curb to hire Kliff. And even then, he may just sit on his ass instead of coaching anywhere.

So no, he's not coming here to be the OC at Mississippi State under a 1st year HC he's got no connections too. Not sure what the point in discussing him more is

He's not coming so it's moot but I don't care if the coordinators can recruit as long as they are elite play callers. Which he would be.

smootness
01-09-2023, 11:15 PM
Cant hurt to find out. I would say 1 out of 100 shot but he was really close with Leach andI actually reached out to a player or two after he passed. Good guy

He was close with Leach?so he might come here now that Leach is gone?

Todd4State
01-09-2023, 11:41 PM
He was close with Leach?so he might come here now that Leach is gone?

Well you can't date Brooklyn Decker if you don't ask.

smootness
01-09-2023, 11:43 PM
Well you can't date Brooklyn Decker if you don't ask.

And won’t if you do.

BuckyIsAB****
01-10-2023, 09:22 AM
He was close with Leach?so he might come here now that Leach is gone?

It may mean something to him to carry it on for Leach. I dont know anything I am just shooting in the dark. Again 1 out of 100 shot but you dont know unless you ask.

Really Clark?
01-10-2023, 09:24 AM
It may mean something to him to carry it on for Leach. I dont know anything I am just shooting in the dark. Again 1 out of 100 shot but you dont know unless you ask.

More like 1 out of $27.5 MIL. Haha

Lord McBuckethead
01-10-2023, 09:29 AM
Well considering we are all completely in the dark about who is being considered, fans such as ourselves will postulate different candidates.

Lord McBuckethead
01-10-2023, 09:29 AM
I will say, CZA needs to keep this close to the vest because our fanbase will do something stupid like Tennessee did a few years ago.

PendingTransaction
01-10-2023, 09:34 AM
The value that attracts coaches usually isn't sentimental. I doubt this one will make the decision on his coaching future based on honoring CML.

KB21
01-10-2023, 09:56 AM
I wouldn't mention his year at USM...oof

Well, Southern Miss was 0-12 in 2012, which lead to Monken being hired in 2013. He inherited a mess. Arroyo was the OC on that team, but Monken controlled the offense. It's interesting that he has experience with coaching QBs, RBs, and WRs.

Really Clark?
01-10-2023, 10:02 AM
Well, Southern Miss was 0-12 in 2012, which lead to Monken being hired in 2013. He inherited a mess. Arroyo was the OC on that team, but Monken controlled the offense. It's interesting that he has experience with coaching QBs, RBs, and WRs.

Oh I know. It's just outside of Oregon, his other stops as OC are not going to give people warm fuzzies.

smootness
01-10-2023, 10:58 AM
I'm not saying we shouldn't reach out in some fashion to see if it's a possibility. I'm saying it's not actually going to happen, so there's no real reason for us to discuss it.