Dumb Bowl Scheduling

[Desoto1967]

So the Sugar has a 11 am Saturday kickoff on ESPN. That's the same time as the Music City on ABC. The Sugar should at least be on ABC, given its history

Sugar was always the last game on New Years Day after the Rose. Now the Rose is at 4pm January 2nd with no prime time game

Just seems to be a bad miss on the ratings that might come with a prime time game

[Quaoarsking]

The bowl games should be abolished as separate private entities and just be run by the conferences directly. They aren't set up for the greater good.

[Goldendawg]

The bowl games should be abolished as separate private entities and just be run by the conferences directly. They aren't set up for the greater good.

ESPN owns 18 of the 40 bowls being played this season. It's about programming and $ for them.

[Coach34]

There is no college game after the Rose Bowl because there is an NFL game that night.

[yjnkdawg]

There has got to be a logical reason for not scheduling a prime time bowl game on Jan 2 , or does it? :rolleyes: And C34 has the answer.

[Coach34]

There has got to be a logical reason for not scheduling a prime time bowl game on Jan 2 , or does it? :rolleyes:

Yes- it's called Monday Night Football

[Captain Falcon]

There is no college game after the Rose Bowl because there is an NFL game that night.

And a pretty big one at that, Bills/Bengals.

[CaptainObvious]

Could you imagine the Southeastern Conference owning 12 Bowl games with 16 teams? All the bowls would be invitationals and everybody gets a trophy.

You would have the 4 SEC teams in the 12 team playoffs and the other 12 as hosts to the 12 bowls the SEC owns. Even a 1-11 Vandy would host a bowl game.

But seriously,

With 12 teams starting next year, the first round will use home field of the 5-8 teams against the 9-12 teams, the second round will use home field of the Top 4, and the semis will use 2 Bowls like they do now, and the Championship will still be outside the Bowl system.

So now we got to find 78 more teams to fill out the other 39 Bowls. So now, with 2 of the 6 NY Bowls hosting, you are going to have some really crappy matchups in the other 4 NY 6 games not hosting the semis.

Using this year as an example, what would that look like after the Top 12 are selected?

Heck, we might be in the Sugar Bowl at 8-4. Yikes!

[Cowbell]

Get rid of the bowls altogether and make a 32 team playoff

[CaptainObvious]

Get rid of the bowls altogether and make a 32 team playoff

Why not a 64 team playoff? It is just 1 more game. I mean if number 32 has a chance to upset 3 teams and play for a Championship, why not let 5-7 number 64 have that chance?

I mean Coastal Carolina has as many Baseball NC as we do. Why not give them a chance at a Football NC?

There should never be more than 16 in a football playoff. And the Bowls should be required to pay each player on a bowl teams roster cash to play in the game. Any bowl that can?t do that, bye bye bowl game. 85+85 = 170 X $10,000 = $1.7 million. Then a minimum a $3 million per school. So $3.85 million plus expenses to each participating school minimum to have a bowl in your city.

[yjnkdawg]

Yes- it's called Monday Night Football

LOL I had forgotten all about MNF with all the bowl games.

[Quaoarsking]

Eventually I think we'll see the bowl games moved to August as preseason invitationals (some of them, while others will just go under), and December will just be an expanded playoff. The schools and conferences are going say "enough" as most schools lose money going to bowls.

[confucius say]

New Year's Day being on a Sunday screwed the schedule all up

[msudawg1200]

So the Sugar has a 11 am Saturday kickoff on ESPN. That's the same time as the Music City on ABC. The Sugar should at least be on ABC, given its history

Sugar was always the last game on New Years Day after the Rose. Now the Rose is at 4pm January 2nd with no prime time game

Just seems to be a bad miss on the ratings that might come with a prime time game

No, that was the Orange Bowl. The Sugar was played in the afternoon after the 1980,86, and 87 seasons. Going back almost 50 years the 1973 and 74 games were played on December 31st. When the Bowl Coalition, then BCS was formed in 1992/1998 the Sugar was played on December 31(once), January 2(6 times), January 3(2 times), and January 4(3 times) the rest, of course, on January 1(9 times). Things aren't always how we think we remember them.

[coachnorm]

Get rid of the bowls altogether and make a 32 team playoff

How do you think a 32 team play off will fare with the NFL commanding the week ends prime time viewer slots. Those slots will be watched by the urban areas that support the commercials paying for the games. The play offs will loose money if there is a huge NFL viewership in urban areas and small college viewership in rural areas. Even the 12 team play offs might not generate money for the networks airing content against the NFL. Maybe some college games will loose money unless the college season starts earlier and gets out of the way when the NFL takes over.

[Quaoarsking]

How do you think a 32 team play off will fare with the NFL commanding the week ends prime time viewer slots. Those slots will be watched by the urban areas that support the commercials paying for the games. The play offs will loose money if there is a huge NFL viewership in urban areas and small college viewership in rural areas. Even the 12 team play offs might not generate money for the networks airing content against the NFL. Maybe some college games will loose money unless the college season starts earlier and gets out of the way when the NFL takes over.

As long as the playoff stays in December and doesn't play on Sundays, it should rake in money. My suggestion would be the championship the first week of January, so that there is no overlap with NFL playoffs.

[Johnson85]

Get rid of the bowls altogether and make a 32 team playoff

32 teams means the championship game is going to have two teams playing their 17th game of the year, unless you give byes, which will just make the schedule harder as far as stretching it out into January.

8 teams would probably be ideal as far as making sure every team that has a chance to win is in the playoffs. But with conference politics and genuine uncertainty caused by how few cross conference matchups there are, 12 is probably the right number if it allows winners of conference championship games a high likelihood of getting a bye so they aren't disadvantaged.

[Quaoarsking]

32 teams means the championship game is going to have two teams playing their 17th game of the year

Just like high school in some states, lower levels of college, and the NFL. I've never really bought the argument that FBS and FBS only is too fragile to play as many games as the rest.

[Really Clark?]

Just like high school in some states, lower levels of college, and the NFL. I've never really bought the argument that FBS and FBS only is too fragile to play as many games as the rest.

Lower FCS don't play 17. The championship game is usually two teams playing their 15th game. They play 11 regular season games. They only play 16 if a team surprises and comes all the way through from the first round but that is rare.

[Quaoarsking]

Lower FCS don't play 17. The championship game is usually two teams playing their 15th game. They play 11 regular season games. They only play 16 if a team surprises and comes all the way through from the first round but that is rare.

I believe FCS plays either 11 or 12 depending on how the Saturdays line up on calendar that year. This year it was 11, but 2019 (the most recent full non-COVID season) was 12.