Bama game thread

[MoreCowbell]

Come on dawgs

[MoreCowbell]

Slow start

[MoreCowbell]

Mizzou up by 15 with 30 secs and they still wont flip to our game

[NCMSTFAN]

Our game is on the ESPN app right now until the Mizzou game ends

[NCMSTFAN]

The crowd looks really good, I love the energy

[NCMSTFAN]

We have to finish around the rim more!

[calidawg]

Damn can't even send the announcers to the game. Production sucks.

[SteelCurtain74]

The way this is playing out the first to 45 wins. Our guards have to have a plan when they drive to the middle. Seeing too many drives with guards getting stuck in the middle.

[PMDawg]

I don't understand being so bad at free throws. It's so maddening. It's literally the easiest part of basketball.

[MoreCowbell]

Man we are horrible offensively

[MoreCowbell]

But our defense is lights out

[msstate7]

We just cannot lay a ball up.

[KOdawg1]

We are really good in every area of basketball except scoring....which unfortunately for us is kinda an important part of the sport.

[CovertDawg]

We would maybe win 10 games all season if we had only an average defense, rather than an elite one.

[NCMSTFAN]

Not a huge fan of Hortons game. We have to get a couple young guys in there to give us a spark

[CovertDawg]

Not a huge fan of Hortons game. We have to get a couple young guys in there to give us a spark

Yes, put Russell in please.

[msstate7]

Tolu, quit flopping

[Lord McBuckethead]

Looks like Tolu is flipping like a big P down low on defense.

[msstate7]

Bama is just gonna hack smith. Smith is unplayable when teams do this

[Lord McBuckethead]

Tolu, quit flopping

Bingo. Time to either be a man or not. Gave up 6 points down low for basically zero contact and terrible soft acting.

[MoreCowbell]

If Tolu cant make free throws you have to quit going to him

[Lord McBuckethead]

Bama is just gonna hack smith. Smith is unplayable when teams do this
They are barely hacking him. He needs to go to the Lawrence Roberts school in how to draw a foul and still get you body in position for a clear easy layup.

[KOdawg1]

Tolu is awful tonight.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Damn, that free throw was terrible looking.

[msstate7]

Take me out or stop passing to him

[Apoplectic]

Some shine when facing a giant - some slither away

[KOdawg1]

4-13 from the line. Just pathetic.

[MoreCowbell]

This is hard to watch

[calidawg]

Holy shit tolu.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Maybe Tolu needs to move further from the goal. Worth a shot.

[msstate7]

Tell tolu to fake an injury every time he's fouled haha

[Lord McBuckethead]

Hell Tolu, do a fade away when you are under the basket.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I love our bulldogs, but it is time for Tolu to stand up.

[msstate7]

Quinerly and miller have 3 fouls

[Apoplectic]

No damn way he spends hours at the FT line. If so his shot would be robotic. Maybe not make them all but it wouldn?t look like shit

[HoopsDawg]

Why put DJ back in?? damn it

[civildawg]

Tolu is terrible right now

[BigEasyDawg]

It's not even about us being good at offense. If we could just shoot 50% from free throws and make open lay-ups at the rim we would be up by 10+

[Apoplectic]

Murphy wtf? Shoot brother shoot

[Maroonthirteen]

Some shine when facing a giant - some slither away

State slithers away any time they play a good alabama team in any sport

[Quaoarsking]

Jans should make a new rule that all free throws must be shot underhanded from now on.

[Lord McBuckethead]

How was Jeffries not fouled there. Dudes arm got f****ing raked.

[msstate7]

7-pt lead is insurmountable for us. We need a big basket here

[HoopsDawg]

How was Jeffries not fouled there. Dudes are got ****ing raked.

that was a ridiculous drive by DJ. you're not going to get that call. He has killed us on both ends the last 2 games.

[MoreCowbell]

I trust McNair more than Tolu right now

[HoopsDawg]

absolutely incredible we are in this game. awful half of basketball. even our defense wasn't good.

[MoreCowbell]

That was huge

[Lord McBuckethead]

Shaq needs to be in the game to drive and hit mid range stuff. Davis cannot get his own shot.

[msstate7]

that was a ridiculous drive by DJ. you're not going to get that call. He has killed us on both ends the last 2 games.

5 pts 9 reb 1 blk

He's killing us? Tolu is killing us

[Lord McBuckethead]

that was a ridiculous drive by DJ. you're not going to get that call. He has killed us on both ends the last 2 games.

He should have got the call. And yes that is the mentality we need when driving the basket.

[Lord McBuckethead]

5 pts 9 reb 1 blk

He's killing us? Tolu is killing us

Yes. Tolu is the actual reason we are losing. Right now, every single point Bama has scored has looked very easy. Ours, tough every single time.

[Goldendawg]

Hell Tolu, do a fade away when you are under the basket.

Have been to every home game except tonight, but am watching. Tolo has little vertical leap and plays below the rim which is odd for his size. His terrible free throw shooting is making him a liability, especially tonight.

[CaptainObvious]

Tolu is frustrated so he is playing reckless

[msstate7]

Tolu...
2 pts (0-3 fg, 2-10 ft)
2 reb

Thanks for nothing, tolu

[KOdawg1]

If we just shoot 66% from the FT line instead of the 31% we're currently shooting, we'd have the lead

[KOdawg1]

5 pts 9 reb 1 blk

He's killing us? Tolu is killing us

Correct. DJ has idiotic plays every game, but he's not killing us.

[EdwardDrayton]

It's just painful to watch us on offense and at the free throw line.

[CovertDawg]

Davis and Tolu a combined 0-8 from the field, 2-10 from the line....yet only down 4.

[NCMSTFAN]

Please leave Davis and Horton on the bench. Play Moore and Russell... I haven't really seen anything out of Horton all year and I'm not sure what Jans sees in Davis but I just haven't seen it. These are our 2 PG's and they look bad

[NCMSTFAN]

Davis and Tolu a combined 0-8 from the field, 2-10 from the line....yet only down 4.

The three's from Murphy were huge. That buzzer beater was also by DJ.. if we can find some scoring in the 2nd half we can win this game.

[HoopsDawg]

2-13 from 2 point range. 5-16 from FT line.

[NCMSTFAN]

I said it the last 3 games, if teams can neutralize Tolu, anyone can beat us because none of our other guys have shown to be scorers yet. Thats why every team we play is double and triple teaming Tolu

[HoopsDawg]

5 pts 9 reb 1 blk

He's killing us? Tolu is killing us

DJ drives me crazy. Massive mental mistakes on the defensive end. That's why Jans pulled him.

[msstate7]

I said it the last 3 games, if teams can neutralize Tolu, anyone can beat us because none of our other guys have shown to be scorers yet. Thats why every team we play is double and triple teaming Tolu

Teams should just do what bama is doing - foul him. He will clank some FTs, and you get the ball back

[HoopsDawg]

Please leave Davis and Horton on the bench. Play Moore and Russell... I haven't really seen anything out of Horton all year and I'm not sure what Jans sees in Davis but I just haven't seen it. These are our 2 PG's and they look bad

Shak Moore has to be on the court.

[PMDawg]

Tolu...
2 pts (0-3 fg, 2-10 ft)
2 reb

Thanks for nothing, tolu

I complained about him a couple games ago and got called an idiot and worse. Be careful! Haha

[HoopsDawg]

Perfect example right there, I mean what was DJ doing.

[calidawg]

Tolu is killing us

[Apoplectic]

Give me Murphy instead of tolu. My guess is tolu stays in because of D

[msstate7]

Tolu out there makes us even easier to defend.

[MoreCowbell]

I swear Tolu has money on Bama

[HoopsDawg]

Give me Murphy instead of tolu. My guess is tolu stays in because of D

He's drawing a ton of fouls at least.

[Goldendawg]

What does Davis bring to the game? I was told he led the PAC 12 in assists but, on an Oregon State team that went 3-28. Great pickup.**

[MoreCowbell]

I trust McNair more than Tolu right now

[msstate7]

He's drawing a ton of fouls at least.

Hell, they deep... they will gladly trade a foul for zero pts every possession.

[msu15]

Perfect example right there, I mean what was DJ doing.

DJ is a perfect case study in the problems with sponsored AAU basketball.

[HoopsDawg]

What does Davis bring to the game? I was told he led the PAC 12 in assists but, on an Oregon State team that went two 3-28. Great pickup.**

We need him but he's playing awful tonight. 0-5.

[msstate7]

Tolu...
0-6 fg
2-12 ft

[HoopsDawg]

Tolu...
0-6 fg
2-12 ft

Is that bad?

[Goldendawg]

Murphy needs to be back in the game!

[msstate7]

Is that bad?

One of the worst games from a good player I've ever saw. He has completely ruined any shot we had tonight.

[msstate7]

7-22 from FT

Jans needs to just throw in the towel right now, and have these guys shoot FTs till 3am

[PMDawg]

HOW?!! How is it possible to suck so bad at free throws at this level of competition?!

[Goldendawg]

And in your own gym to boot!

[civildawg]

Jans needs to gut this team after this year. I don?t understand how D1 players can be so bad at scoring

[MoreCowbell]

Damn, we suck

[msstate7]

This season is about to fall apart quicker than tolu can miss 2 FTs. Fun while it lasted

[PMDawg]

83% FT vs 32%. Just a pathetic effort. If you can call it effort. It's laughable at this level.

[calidawg]

7/22 at the free throw line. 31%. Never in my life have i seen something this bad

[parabrave]

Just let Murphy shoot the rest of the game.

[HoopsDawg]

Damn, Kittley can draw up some plays. Pay this dude Arnett/Keenum whoever.

[civildawg]

Those last 3 non conference games was the real team. We just got a little lucky against some better opponents

[PMDawg]

Hit the showers Tolu.

[Saltydog]

Some of you got way too emotionally invested in this team. We've got a good coach. We just don't have much talent.

[HoopsDawg]

Those last 3 non conference games was the real team. We just got a little lucky against some better opponents

Jans better go sign some players. I'm not sure he can recruit.

[msstate7]

Jans better go sign some players. I'm not sure he can recruit.

He hasn't shown it yet for sure.

[EdwardDrayton]

This is what we were concerned about going into the game. Only worse.

[HoopsDawg]

We are -2 with Shak on the court. DJ is -15. Dashawn Davis is -15.

[parabrave]

Hit the showers Tolu.

Why has Moore taken only 1 FG?

[Goldendawg]

Jans better go sign some players. I'm not sure he can recruit.

All the guards he brought in this year are terrible.

[HoopsDawg]

All the guards he brought in this year are terrible.

for sure.

[CaptainObvious]

We are a Women?s Basketball School. I bet our women could beat the guys in a game of HORSE as long as no dunks were allowed.

[parabrave]

Nice little run we are on.

[msstate7]

Nice little run we are on.

And a tolu TO

[HoopsDawg]

And a tolu TO

bad decision by Davis, then a bad decision by DJ. What else is new.

[msstate7]

Will we score 35 pts at Tenn next Tuesday?

[Goldendawg]

[QUOTE=HoopsDawg;1484485]bad decision by Davis, then a bad decision by DJ. What else is new.[/QU

NM

[HoopsDawg]

I'm going to dip out. Awful game, but we will bounce back. Tolu won't always be this bad. We can get to 9-9 in conference. Bama is good.

[parabrave]

Well for now on I hope Toulu eats his wheaties because he is going to get hacked every game.

[Dawg2003]

Can't win many games scoring in the 50s and 60s.

[msstate7]

LSU leading #9 ark under a min to go. Fountain has a double-double and he's 4/5 at FT line

[NCMSTFAN]

Some of you got way too emotionally invested in this team. We've got a good coach. We just don't have much talent.

Well go take a look at our recruiting class coming in. Not much talent there either. Jans is a good defensive coach.. the verdict is still out on his offense and recruiting

[CaptainObvious]

Well for now on I hope Toulu eats his wheaties because he is going to get hacked every game.

He will make a nice living in Israel. The rest of these guys need to follow up their craft skills as brick layers by actually becoming. Bricklayers! There is good money in it and there is no way anyone else on this roster will make any money playing basketball. Unless it is on bets on the play ground courts.

[NCMSTFAN]

LSU leading #9 ark under a min to go. Fountain has a double-double and he's 4/5 at FT line

Fountain has been solid for LSU... we sure miss has offense

[PGHBulldogBG]

Tonight has shown that our talent is severely lacking. We didn’t play any teams in the non conference even close to Bama. They played at least 6 teams better than what we played. Not giving up yet though, just got to win some away games @Ole Miss, @Vandy and @USC and of course our home games against all teams not named Bama UT and UK

[Joebob]

Well go take a look at our recruiting class coming in. Not much talent there either. Jans is a good defensive coach.. the verdict is still out on his offense and recruiting

We seem to get enough open looks, we just can't hit the broad side of a barn with our shooting. Agree that the jury is still out as to whether Jans can recruit enough offensive talent.

[Goldendawg]

LSU leading #9 ark under a min to go. Fountain has a double-double and he's 4/5 at FT line

"We didn't need him anyway".*******

[NCMSTFAN]

All the guards he brought in this year are terrible.

Honestly I don't remember the last time we've had a group of guards this bad, maybe the Rick Ray days but even then we had Craig Sword and Fred Thomas who Id take over these guys. We have no perimeter threat at all.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Shake it off dawgs. Tough day in the court. Keep up the hustle. The ball will start falling.

I am worried our legs look slow, though.

[msstate7]

Honestly I don't remember the last time we've had a group of guards this bad, maybe the Rick Ray days but even then we had Craig Sword and Fred Thomas who Id take over these guys. We have no perimeter threat at all.

We don't start our best guard - Moore. After this last 4-game run, Jans needs to explain this bonehead decision

[NCMSTFAN]

We seem to get enough open looks, we just can't hit the broad side of a barn with our shooting. Agree that the jury is still out as to whether Jans can recruit enough offensive talent.
The writing has been on the wall after we struggled so badly against Jackson State and Nicholls State then lost to Drake. Teams are defending Tolu aggressively and making others beat them... we have no one else that can go get buckets for us... no one.. And Jans needs to sit Horton and Davis, I've said it numerous times and I'll continue to say it.. they are not SEC gaurds.

[NCMSTFAN]

We don't start our best guard - Moore. After this last 4-game run, Jans needs to explain this bonehead decision

I agree 100%

[Apoplectic]

Bama is a final 4 team - we have to change the offense it can no longer go thru tolu. We were running set shots a few games ago - what happened to that?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Murphy looked good. Mathews played his game. Shaq looked good at times. Shaq May be the only guy we have that can create his own shot.

Tolu had maybe his worst game in his career. Couldn?t score down low one on one. He needs to figure out how to force the issue and make baskets.

All in all, Bama is good. 11 pt loss at home hurts, but shouldn?t effect our NET too bad.

[msugolf]

I just wish we (MSU) would start hiring offensive coaches in every sport. Defense is so overrated

[Goldendawg]

We seem to get enough open looks, we just can't hit the broad side of a barn with our shooting. Agree that the jury is still out as to whether Jans can recruit enough offensive talent.

We have no SEC talent playing guard and Jans brought in a couple of them.

[NCMSTFAN]

I just wish we (MSU) would start hiring offensive coaches in every sport. Defense is so overrated

Lol I actually agree, especially in basketball. No matter how good your defense is in a sport like basketball, your not stopping people everytime down the floor, especially athletic teams with shooters. You have to balance stopping them and also scoring. Right now we do a pretty good job getting stops, but can't score to save our lives

[NCMSTFAN]

We have no SEC talent playing guard and Jans brought in a couple of them.

Jans brought all of them in except Moore. Russell was initially signed to Howland but Jans won't play him, all the other guys are Jans players

[NCMSTFAN]

Murphy looked good. Mathews played his game. Shaq looked good at times. Shaq May be the only guy we have that can create his own shot.

Tolu had maybe his worst game in his career. Couldn?t score down low one on one. He needs to figure out how to force the issue and make baskets.

All in all, Bama is good. 11 pt loss at home hurts, but shouldn?t effect our NET too bad.

Agreed, the loss isn't a bad loss. The concern is how bad we look on offense and seem to be getting worse. We better fix something soon or we will find ourselves at the bottom of the SEC.

[HoopsDawg]

Jans brought all of them in except Moore. Russell was initially signed to Howland but Jans won't play him, all the other guys are Jans players

Jans brought in Davis, McNair, Reed, Stevenson, Jones and Horton. Everyone else was Howland.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I just wish we (MSU) would start hiring offensive coaches in every sport. Defense is so overrated

Nah. Just be halfway decent on offense that could be work. Make a free throw

[msstate7]

The OM game is shaping up to be a huge one for us. We will almost certainly be on a 3-game losing streak. We have to have that game

[Goldendawg]

Jans brought in Davis, McNair, Reed, Stevenson, Jones and Horton. Everyone else was Howland.

Haven't seen any SEC type talent or results out of that six thus far.

[msstate7]

Nah. Just be halfway decent on offense that could be work. Make a free throw

Yeah, 18-36 from FT is really bad

[NCMSTFAN]

Jans brought in Davis, McNair, Reed, Stevenson, Jones and Horton. Everyone else was Howland.

I think he was talking about the gaurds Jans brought. And to be honest our best 3 players are Howlands guys. Tolu, DJ and Shak are our best players (they arent setting the world on fire either). I'm not impressed with any of Jans guys, except Stevenson, he works his butt off and provides a spark, the rest haven't shown me much. Eric Reed is solid at times too but he's not a starting SEC gaurd. I'd like to see Murphy and Russell get more playing time.

[HoopsDawg]

I think he was talking about the gaurds Jans brought. And to be honest our best 3 players are Howlands guys. Tolu, DJ and Shak are our best players (they arent setting the world on fire either). I'm not impressed with any of Jans guys, except Stevenson, he works his butt off and provides a spark, the rest haven't shown me much. Eric Reed is solid at times too but he's not a starting SEC gaurd. I'd like to see Murphy and Russell get more playing time.

Russell wouldn't help much at this point. Murphy definitely needs more playing time.

[NCMSTFAN]

Russell wouldn't help much at this point. Murphy definitely needs more playing time.

Whats it going to hurt, Heck give him a shot he can't hurt us worse than Horton or Davis. The few times I've watched him play this year I likes his poise.

[Goldendawg]

Our only starter in double figures was DJ with 11 points. Think Murphy and Adair also had 11 each off the bench. Our future SEC opponents will watch this film.

[parabrave]

Jans brought in Davis, McNair, Reed, Stevenson, Jones and Horton. Everyone else was Howland.

Where has Stevenson been?

[msu15]

Jans brought in Davis, McNair, Reed, Stevenson, Jones and Horton. Everyone else was Howland.

He clearly stated that he was talking about guards. Learn how to read

[Bdawg]

Yeah, 18-36 from FT is really bad

Can’t understand why we suck so bad at free throws each year. That’s on the players to me. Stay later and shoot more on your on. Maybe they are but it amazes why we are not good at it year after year. Easy points and it cost you games.

[RocketDawg]

I had to watch the game later on recording - I don't remember us making a lot of 2-pointers. Maybe Alabama has a defense as tough as ours.

[msstate7]

I had to watch the game later on recording - I don't remember us making a lot of 2-pointers. Maybe Alabama has a defense as tough as ours.

They're really good. Kenpom has them at 14th in defense. We're 5th. Other notables...
Tenn #1
Ark #7
Auburn #11
Kentucky #20

[smootness]

Can’t understand why we suck so bad at free throws each year. That’s on the players to me. Stay later and shoot more on your on. Maybe they are but it amazes why we are not good at it year after year. Easy points and it cost you games.

It’s not a team problem, it’s a Tolu problem. Rest of the team was 15-21.

[msstate7]

Next 5 games...
At Tenn
OM
At Georgia
At auburn
Tenn

OM and Georgia are must wins if we wanna go dancing this season

[maroonmania]

Our only starter in double figures was DJ with 11 points. Think Murphy and Adair also had 11 each off the bench. Our future SEC opponents will watch this film.

Glad we got those Marquette and Utah wins in early because its pretty obvious that now we have been pretty fully scouted by everyone. Not only is our offense continuing to be unproductive but our defense is starting to give up more and more points as we go along. We can't even score well from the FT line.

[NCMSTFAN]

Glad we got those Marquette and Utah wins in early because its pretty obvious that now we have been pretty fully scouted by everyone. Not only is our offense continuing to be unproductive but our defense is starting to give up more and more points as we go along. We can't even score well from the FT line.

Bingo! I mentioned before that teams know how to play us now, we aren't very hard to beat with the style that we play. And playing tough defense only gets you so far.

[CaptainObvious]

Historically, State has never won many games when scoring in the 50?s and 60?s. So now, we have a coach that wants to play Midwest basketball and keep the game in the 50?s. Good grief, there has to be 5 high school seniors in Mississippi who can make layups and free throws.

[HoopsDawg]

Bingo! I mentioned before that teams know how to play us now, we aren't very hard to beat with the style that we play. And playing tough defense only gets you so far.

the problem is the athleticism and length in the SEC makes it a lot tougher on Tolu than the non-conference opponents. Going to have to have some guys help on the offensive end. Dashawn Davis has to play better. And Shak Morre has to play 32+ minutes per game.

[msstate7]

Davis is shooting 45.7% from 3 this season. He avg'd 11 a game last year while shooting much worse from 3. Hopefully he's still bothered by his injury, and he's about to give us more scoring.

[HoopsDawg]

Davis is shooting 45.7% from 3 this season. He avg'd 11 a game last year while shooting much worse from 3. Hopefully he's still bothered by his injury, and he's about to give us more scoring.

Other than last night, he's looked pretty solid.

[maroonmania]

Historically, State has never won many games when scoring in the 50?s and 60?s. So now, we have a coach that wants to play Midwest basketball and keep the game in the 50?s. Good grief, there has to be 5 high school seniors in Mississippi who can make layups and free throws.

Whether he wants to play that style or not I don't know. But with the lack of scorers on this team I'm not sure what other style we can play and have any chance to win.