Arbuckle to Washington

[Coach34]

Cross him off the list

[DEDawg]

Would have been a good hire but Kittley will be a home run if we can pull him. Hopefully it?s a done deal

[msstate7]

Would have been a good hire but Kittley will be a home run if we can pull him. Hopefully it?s a done deal

This is likely? Damn, that would be a great hire

[Commercecomet24]

Looks like it's gonna be Littrell from what I just heard.

[yjnkdawg]

This is likely? Damn, that would be a great hire

I think he is just hopeful it's a done deal. If we could get Kittley that would rank as one if not the best hires this year in Division 1 football of an assistant coach.

[yjnkdawg]

Looks like it's gonna be Littrell from what I just heard.

and Ryan Lindley possibly the QB coach.

[Commercecomet24]

and Ryan Lindley possibly the QB coach.

Yep

[msstate7]

Seth littrell?

[Commercecomet24]

Seth littrell?

Looks like it.

[msstate7]

Looks like it.

His offenses have been good at NT the last 3 years. He's been run heavy in all 3 of those years, so looks like we making a change in offense

[msugolf]

Looks like it's gonna be Littrell from what I just heard.

Not a fan of this hire if true

[Commercecomet24]

His offenses have been good at NT the last 3 years. He's been run heavy in all 3 of those years, so looks like we making a change in offense

2900 rushing 24 tds
3700 passing 34 tds

That's still a ton of passing yards and tds.

[yjnkdawg]

His offenses have been good at NT the last 3 years. He's been run heavy in all 3 of those years, so looks like we making a change in offense

I think he can adjust to whatever works best, concerning what players he has, and what the defense gives you. Like Longo, when he was at OM, used to say he didn't care if he ran the ball 80 times a game or passed the ball 80 times a game, but take what the defense gives you.

[msstate7]

2900 rushing 24 tds
3700 passing 34 tds

That's still a ton of passing yards and tds.

2022: 55.4% run heavy
2021: 61.9% run heavy
2020: 56.9% run heavy

[msstate7]

I think he can adjust to whatever works best, concerning what players he has, and what the defense gives you. Like Longo, when he was at OM, used to say he didn't care if he ran the ball 80 times a game or passed the ball 80 times a game, but take what the defense gives you.

I'm perfectly fine with getting back to running the football

[yjnkdawg]

2900 rushing 24 tds
3700 passing 34 tds

That's still a ton of passing yards and tds.

Yep, I don't see CZA changing the offense to strictly a run first offense based upon what he has said and indicated.

[Commercecomet24]

2022: 55.4% run heavy
2021: 61.9% run heavy
2020: 56.9% run heavy

Yeah but he's had a great balance between run and pass. 200 yards a game rushing 262 a game passing this year is excellent balance. I like balance. With Will at qb though that eliminates any qb run plays.

[Commercecomet24]

Yep, I don't see CZA changing the offense to strictly a run first offense based upon what he has said and indicated.

I agree but I do see more balance coming which is always good.

[msstate7]

I agree but I do see more balance coming which is always good.

I would love to get away from extreme heavy passing

[yjnkdawg]

I agree but I do see more balance coming which is always good.

Yep I agree and makes your running backs happier too. :)

[Commercecomet24]

I would love to get away from extreme heavy passing

Yeah we need a little more balance and creativity in our run game. A more modern version of the air raid perhaps.

[Commercecomet24]

Yep I agree and makes your running backs happier too. :)

Truth!

[HoopsDawg]

Seth littrell?

It's a hire that makes sense. He has head coaching experience which should help ZA. He is currently unemployed which makes him an easy target. He is on the Leach tree and came to Starkville for the memorial. ZA wants to bring his buddy Lindley back to Starkville to coach the QB's and Littrell has never been a QB coach. So it checks a lot of boxes and makes sense.

Me personally, as I said yesterday, I would have made a run at Kittley first. If he said no to 1.5 million, fine, move on to Littrell. But I think we targeted Littrell from the get go. The good thing is this, unlike Mullen or Leach or Moorehead or Croom, if his offense isn't getting it done, we move on and bring in someone else.

[Really Clark?]

2022: 55.4% run heavy
2021: 61.9% run heavy
2020: 56.9% run heavy

The years prior at NT they were 50/50 or more pass than run. He is very adaptable to what he has.

As an OC, 2011 Arizona 63% pass, 2012 at Indiana 57% pass, 2013 50/50, 2014 at NC 50/50, 2015 56% passing

[ZedFedder]

Another thing to consider if we do go with Littrell. This takes a lot of pressure off of Will to win games for us. In this role he can be much more of a game manager instead of having to be a play maker.

[Todd4State]

I think he can adjust to whatever works best, concerning what players he has, and what the defense gives you. Like Longo, when he was at OM, used to say he didn't care if he ran the ball 80 times a game or passed the ball 80 times a game, but take what the defense gives you.

We have no idea what he'll do since he has had an offensive coordinator calling plays for the past few years.

If we don't get Kittley we should tell Littrell to watch film of the New Orleans bowl and tell him to do what Western Kentucky was doing.

[Commercecomet24]

The years prior at NT they were 50/50 or more pass than run. He is very adaptable to what he has.

As an OC, 2011 Arizona 63% pass, 2012 at Indiana 57% pass, 2013 50/50, 2014 at NC 50/50, 2015 56% passing

It's what i like about him. His history shows he's adaptable as opposed to one size fits all offense.

[Todd4State]

I agree but I do see more balance coming which is always good.

There was no way it was going to be 70/30 pass run. Everyone I talk to seems to think 60/40.

[HoopsDawg]

Another thing to consider if we do go with Littrell. This takes a lot of pressure off of Will to win games for us. In this role he can be much more of a game manager instead of having to be a play maker.

It's hard for me to wrap my mind around Will being in any offense other than the Air Raid. I just can't see it.

[Todd4State]

It's a hire that makes sense. He has head coaching experience which should help ZA. He is currently unemployed which makes him an easy target. He is on the Leach tree and came to Starkville for the memorial. ZA wants to bring his buddy Lindley back to Starkville to coach the QB's and Littrell has never been a QB coach. So it checks a lot of boxes and makes sense.

Me personally, as I said yesterday, I would have made a run at Kittley first. If he said no to 1.5 million, fine, move on to Littrell. But I think we targeted Littrell from the get go. The good thing is this, unlike Mullen or Leach or Moorehead or Croom, if his offense isn't getting it done, we move on and bring in someone else.

I mean Bob Stoops and Hal Mumme were there too as well as Chris Hatcher. And it's not like Littrell is doing a lot right now.

[Todd4State]

It's hard for me to wrap my mind around Will being in any offense other than the Air Raid. I just can't see it.

I've heard multiple people say that we are still going to be an Air Raid team. And no it won't be Leach's Air Raid.

[msstate7]

It's hard for me to wrap my mind around Will being in any offense other than the Air Raid. I just can't see it.

Let's all pass the hat around to get Sam Hartman.


I wish

[ScottH]

Cross him off the list

Washington State

[Commercecomet24]

Let's all pass the hat around to get Sam Hartman.


I wish

Gonna take a big hat lol

[HoopsDawg]

There was no way it was going to be 70/30 pass run. Everyone I talk to seems to think 60/40.

We led the country in passing attempts per game. North Texas was 70th. So that's a pretty big change. FYI: Kittley was 4th.

[HoopsDawg]

Let's all pass the hat around to get Sam Hartman.


I wish

dude. Sam Hartman with Kittley calling the plays would be awesome.

[HoopsDawg]

I've heard multiple people say that we are still going to be an Air Raid team. And no it won't be Leach's Air Raid.

Littrell hasn't run the Air Raid since Graham Harrell was his OC that was around 2018.

[Todd4State]

We led the country in passing attempts per game. North Texas was 70th. So that's a pretty big change. FYI: Kittley was 4th.

North Texas was more of a Veer and Shoot team than an Air Raid team to me. Just watching them on film. Again, not sure how much Littrell had to do with that as he had another offensive coordinator.

[Desoto1967]

So this was better than anything State had in house? Is Hollingshead gone?

[KOdawg1]

So this was better than anything State had in house?

Yes

[TrapGame]

Rosebowl posting that it won't be Littrell.

Interesting.

[Really Clark?]

North Texas was more of a Veer and Shoot team than an Air Raid team to me. Just watching them on film. Again, not sure how much Littrell had to do with that as he had another offensive coordinator.

Littrell is Air Raid but when he hired Reeder in 2019 there were changes. Now some of the things Reeder did was similar to offenses Litrell ran at Indiana and NC. Reeder uses air raid passing concepts but multiple formations, run concepts and RPO's were incorporated in his scheme. So that's what you are looking at recently at NT. Again, Seth is a very versatile and adaptable OC. From the Air Raid tree but he does not have be pure air raid and lets his talent dictate the over arching philosophy each season.

[TorpedoIPA]

There was no way it was going to be 70/30 pass run. Everyone I talk to seems to think 60/40.

I think it would be a mistake to make your goal some specific ratio of run to pass. It would be better to check into the run when the defense dictates that we should. The point is to do what the defense is less prepared for. Balance is spreading it around using the whole field not simply having number of run plays = passing plays.

I wouldn't bang our head against a wall in order to establish the run when it just isn't there.

[HancockCountyDog]

2900 rushing 24 tds
3700 passing 34 tds

That's still a ton of passing yards and tds.

Yeah - but that is still a massive shift in what we have been doing.

[Coach34]

Yeah - but that is still a massive shift in what we have been doing.

Well, the days of us throwing it 50 times per game are over

[Desoto1967]

Going back to the QB draw on 3rd and 7

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah - but that is still a massive shift in what we have been doing.

Agreed and I like more balance as well.

[HancockCountyDog]

Agreed and I like more balance as well.

Look - i think it is for the best, but my concern is that Will is a true air raid QB and I've defended him on here a bunch. Now, this season was a step backwards for him, but if we were going to run the CML air raid, he was the guy to do it.

Now, if we are moving to of a more current air raid, with a concerted effort to run the ball, which will almost always include a running QB, then Will is not the QB for that offense. He has never been a running QB, and if he is going to be expected to run the ball, then that is a problem. Looking at NT stats, it looks like they didn't run the QB much this past season, but in 2021 the QB position had about 100 rushes, which isn't sustainable for Will.

Unless we can get a mobile portal QB, I don't see us making wholesale changes to the offense as far as running the ball. Sure we run it more, but it would be difficult to run it less or the same as this past season.

[DEDawg]

Look - i think it is for the best, but my concern is that Will is a true air raid QB and I've defended him on here a bunch. Now, this season was a step backwards for him, but if we were going to run the CML air raid, he was the guy to do it.

Now, if we are moving to of a more current air raid, with a concerted effort to run the ball, which will almost always include a running QB, then Will is not the QB for that offense. He has never been a running QB, and if he is going to be expected to run the ball, then that is a problem. Looking at NT stats, it looks like they didn't run the QB much this past season, but in 2021 the QB position had about 100 rushes, which isn't sustainable for Will.

Unless we can get a mobile portal QB, I don't see us making wholesale changes to the offense as far as running the ball. Sure we run it more, but it would be difficult to run it less or the same as this past season.

Friendly reminder there are 3 other QBs on the roster. Do I expect one to win the starting job? No. Is it possible with a new coaching staff and offense? Yes.

[was21]

Why was Littrell fired from NT?

[TorpedoIPA]

Agreed and I like more balance as well.

I care more about total yards of offense and points scored.

[Pancho]

Hatcher

[msstate7]

Hatcher

Who's Hatcher?

[Really Clark?]

Who's Hatcher?

Chris Hatcher. The Samford HC. Was with Leach and Mumme as QB and assistant

[Commercecomet24]

I care more about total yards of offense and points scored.

I think we all do.

[Desoto1967]

Is it Hatcher or does he want Hatcher?

What does he make at Samford?

[Really Clark?]

Is it Hatcher or does he want Hatcher?

What does he make at Samford?

I think his base is around $250,000 with incentives pushing $450,000

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think his base is around $250,000 with incentives pushing $450,000

Offer 350 and if it takes it great and if not then we go get someone else. Just because we can overpay does not mean we have to. If it was Garrett Riley or Kendall Briles then absolutely overpay but there are a dozen Chris Hatcher out there.

[Really Clark?]

Offer 350 and if it takes it great and if not then we go get someone else. Just because we can overpay does not mean we have to. If it was Garrett Riley or Kendall Briles then absolutely overpay but there are a dozen Chris Hatcher out there.

You can't make an SEC OC your lowest paid assistant on staff.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You can't make an SEC OC your lowest paid assistant on staff.

Then go get someone worth the money you want to pay. The guy has been a FBS POSITION COACH for all of one year. I am not keen on handing over the keys to an SEC offense to a guy like that. There is a reason he has never gotten above the FCS level and I for one am not interested in being the test case to why at the tune of 7 to 800K a year.

[Really Clark?]

Then go get someone worth the money you want to pay. The guy has been a FBS POSITION COACH for all of one year. I am not keen on handing over the keys to an SEC offense to a guy like that. There is a reason he has never gotten above the FCS level and I for one am not interested in being the test case to why at the tune of 7 to 800K a year.

Blah, we are not hiring him as a HC. He's been calling plays for years, knows this system and his tweaks and has had good success. Not saying we should hire him but you going way overboard on his level of coaching experience and being able to call plays as an OC. Is also known as a good QB coach.

It does not matter who you hire from what level, your OC can't be your lowest salary on staff.

[msu15]

Well, the days of us throwing it 50 times per game are over

Please bring back the tight end

[TrapGame]

Then go get someone worth the money you want to pay. The guy has been a FBS POSITION COACH for all of one year. I am not keen on handing over the keys to an SEC offense to a guy like that. There is a reason he has never gotten above the FCS level and I for one am not interested in being the test case to why at the tune of 7 to 800K a year.

You do realize Hatcher is not a position coach. He's been a HC at Valdosta State, Samford, Murray St. and Georgia Southern. He's the winningest coach ever at Valdosta State.

[Commercecomet24]

You do realize Hatcher is not a position coach. He's been a HC at Valdosta State, Samford, Murray St. and Georgia Southern. He's the winningest coach ever at Valdosta State.

Yeah Hatcher has a lot of experience and has had great offenses. My cousin was his DC at Murray State and now at Samford so I know quite a bit about Hatcher.

[HancockCountyDog]

Yeah Hatcher has a lot of experience and has had great offenses. My cousin was his DC at Murray State and now at Samford so I know quite a bit about Hatcher.

So is he coming?

[Commercecomet24]

So is he coming?

Good question. I've still heard it's Littrell but who knows at this point. Probably won't know something definitive until after monday.

[Dawgface]

Rosebowl posting that it won't be Littrell.

Interesting.

So it will be Littrell then.

[TrapGame]

So it will be Littrell then.

At this point I'd put money on it.

[TrapGame]

At this point I'd put money on it.

I was just told that Littrell has removed his name from consideration.

Interesting.

[msstate7]

I was just told that Littrell has removed his name from consideration.

Interesting.

Then he probably knew he wasn't getting job, or jimbo has his man.

[TrapGame]

Then he probably knew he wasn't getting job, or jimbo has his man.

I was told that Kittley's buyout was head coach level $$$ and we moved on.

If it's not Hatcher, then I don't who else it would be.

[Really Clark?]

I was told that Kittley's buyout was head coach level $$$ and we moved on.

If it's not Hatcher, then I don't who else it would be.

Unless he just agreed to a new contract and signed it, Kittley is making $730,000 a year, with 2 years left

[Desoto1967]

Mark Hudspeth updating his resume

[KOdawg1]

Needs to be Hatcher if Littrell and Kittley aren't options anymore. Hatcher would be a good hire.

Unless we want to throw money at Kendal Briles or something..

[TheLostDawg]

I was just told that Littrell has removed his name from consideration.

Interesting.

Reported that he's looking for another HC job. So if he doesn't land one, I'm sure he'll want to be here

[Really Clark?]

Reported that he's looking for another HC job. So if he doesn't land one, I'm sure he'll want to be here

He will have to wait a year for a HC. Not sure what FCS job is open for him now. May be one but I can't think of one

[schddog72]

Rosebowl posting that it won't be Littrell.

Interesting.

And he knows this how?? I wouldn't take anything to the bank just because Rosebowl said it.

[CoachT14]

Then go get someone worth the money you want to pay. The guy has been a FBS POSITION COACH for all of one year. I am not keen on handing over the keys to an SEC offense to a guy like that. There is a reason he has never gotten above the FCS level and I for one am not interested in being the test case to why at the tune of 7 to 800K a year.

You do realize Hatcher has put up a ton of points on SEC and FBS defenses right?Or are you just saying stuff without actually knowing anything about the guy?

There are plenty of names that have been mentioned that deserve this type of ridicule. Hatcher isn’t one.

[HoopsDawg]

I was just told that Littrell has removed his name from consideration.

Interesting.

Thank goodness

[Really Clark?]

You do realize Hatcher has put up a ton of points on SEC and FBS defenses as well as best them right? Or are you just saying stuff without actually knowing anything about the guy?

There are plenty of names that have been mentioned that deserve this type of ridicule. Hatcher isn’t one.

Well Georgia did blank them this year. Hahaha. But they scored 55 vs the same ETSU team we played. Scored 52 vs Florida last year. 2019 Auburn blanked them. 2018 scored 26 vs FSU. Scored 14 vs Georgia in 2017. Scored 41 vs us in 2016 (Stupid Sirmon).