MSU at Drake game

[RocketDawg]

Anybody know if we can listen to the game on HailState without having a subscription of some sort? I've never tried that I can remember. Hopefully if you can't listen, then the live stats will work.

[Goldendawg]

There is a tread to watch online. Checking it out now.

[Extendedcab]

I am listening to the game now from a link on Hail State without needing a subscription.

[ZedFedder]

Ole Miss just lost to North Alabama. Lol.

[msstate7]

Ole Miss just lost to North Alabama. Lol.

And aTm lost to wofford. Let's not be the 3rd upset today in the sec

[Lord McBuckethead]

I have been listening since 2-2. We have 4 straight turnovers.

[msstate7]

The offense seems to be getting worse

[Lord McBuckethead]

9-4 Drake.

[msstate7]

Moore available today?

[MoreCowbell]

Gonna get blow out. Cant score

[CovertDawg]

Watching and our offense has been even worse than the score indicates.

[PMDawg]

Looks like we picked up right where we left off last week. A loss today isn't horrible, but we need to figure this out fast.

[MoreCowbell]

They are not even guarding us on 3 point line, daring us to shoot wide open threes and we cant make them

Never seen a team not guard the 3 point line

[msstate7]

This is looking like a 3rd straight game where we look bad. We need to turn this around right now

[EdwardDrayton]

Six points in nine minutes. Oof

[Goldendawg]

15 to 6. Listening on Hail State. Anyone get the joker link to work?

[CovertDawg]

We either shoot a brick or turn the ball over trying to force it in to a doubled Tolu (who they can easily double because we are shooting bricks.)

[MoreCowbell]

15 to 6. Listening on Hail State. Anyone get the joker link to work?

The broadcast on ballertv is actually solid. Picture is nice

[MoreCowbell]

Murphy is really good

[MoreCowbell]

15-13 Drake, good run right now

[CovertDawg]

Things completely changed for the better when we put Murphy in.

[msstate7]

There ya go, dawgs. Murphy doing good things

[MoreCowbell]

16-15 State on Murphy 3

[PMDawg]

That's better. Nice little turnaround there.

[Lord McBuckethead]

18-18

[Lord McBuckethead]

Reed hits our 3rd 3. Dawgs up 3.

[Lord McBuckethead]

4th 3 hits the net. Up 3.

[State82]

A blast from the past. Jim Ellis on the play-by-play.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Another 3 for Reed. Up 6.

[PMDawg]

Freaking A man! If we hit 3s, we're hard to stop.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Tolu and DJ getting owned by shorter and less athletic players down low. Come on fellas, go up strong.

[MoreCowbell]

Tolu has not looked very good offensively last few games.

[MoreCowbell]

He looks really tired

[MoreCowbell]

Back to back good buckets by Tolu right after I say that

[msstate7]

He looks really tired

Get us this win, and he can rest till next Thursday

[EdwardDrayton]

Now we're cookin' with hot grease!!

[Lord McBuckethead]

uP 8 with 2 to play in the first.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I will tell you guys this.... why are BallerTV's cameras better than what we get with ESPN?
Better resolution. Seriously better resolution.

[RocketDawg]

I just started the stats - got preoccupied and forgot to turn the game on. We're up 31-23. Somebody turned the switch on. Almost halftime.

[msstate7]

Let's get this Q2 win, halfway there

[Op4isabitch]

Y’all can’t bait me into watching. Every time I do we start to look like poo. I’ll just rely on your updates! Go Dawgs.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Up 8 at Half. Not a bad way to be. Keep piling it on boys. Whomever gets the most solid looks and converts, gets more minutes.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Where did this shooting come from? Reed Jr. just checked into the game and hit like 3 threes in a row. Davis may have had one too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I feel like I need to be the official stat guy that reports to StatTracker or something. No one seems to be doing it.

[Thick]

Thanks for the updates!

[Op4isabitch]

Yeah thanks LMB.

[MoreCowbell]

My stream went out

[parabrave]

I feel like I need to be the official stat guy that reports to StatTracker or something. No one seems to be doing it.

Stats

DJ 1-6 1-2 3pt. 5TOs
Davis 0-2
Reed 11pts 4-7, 3-5 3s
Toulu 6pts 3-4
Cameron 2 Pts, 1-5FG 02 3s.
DJ needs to get his shooting together or sit. But heck he can't continue to suck at shooting when conf play begins,

[parabrave]

31-25 17mins to go

[BeardoMSU]

Interesting that Drake has a Mentat on the team***

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."

[parabrave]

35-25 16 minss to go.

[MoreCowbell]

Anybody else stream buffering like on dial up? First half was fine

[EdwardDrayton]

6-14 from 3! Who are these masked men?!!?

[IngomarDawg]

Missed it last game, what's wrong with Shak?

[BeardoMSU]

Missed it last game, what's wrong with Shak?

Foot stuff

[RocketDawg]

I feel like I need to be the official stat guy that reports to StatTracker or something. No one seems to be doing it.

I'm keeping up with the stat tracker on Hail State. Couldn't get the broadcast to work.

[IngomarDawg]

Missed it last game, what's wrong with Shak?

Gotcha, thanks!

[parabrave]

Weip. 36-33 now.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Only up 3. Offense has gone retarded again. No one driving to the basket. No one slashing to the basket. Everything as difficult as possible.

[parabrave]

I'm keeping up with the stat tracker on Hail State. Couldn't get the broadcast to work.

WFCA,com for radio.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Again, why is BallerTV's broadcast better looking than ESPNs?

[EdwardDrayton]

Same slow start offensively as the first half.

[parabrave]

Down now.

[msstate7]

We are falling apart

[civildawg]

Our offensive skill set is offensive

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 1 after 2 terrible defensive showings in a row. Gave up an 8 pt lead over the last 2 game minutes.

[starkvegasdawg]

42.9% from the charity stripe so far today. Inexcusable at the D1 level. I haven't shot a basketball in years but I bet I could drag myself out there now and shoot that.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Lots of game left. We will win by 11.

[parabrave]

When Toulu goes out we just don't play the same.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Does our team know there isn't an icing call nor is there an offsides call in basketball?

We refuse to run the ball down court after a missed shot.

[parabrave]

Davis seems to have found his spot.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Mathews just pushed a guy after he gave up the easy rebound. No call. I like these refs.

[parabrave]

Well Matthews has 4 fouls. TS in. Hopefully lets see what he can do,

[Lord McBuckethead]

Alright, get a turnover here. Boom stepped out.
Now move without the damn ball and get to the rim.

[parabrave]

Drake gonna go the 3 route for the rest of the game. Devris with his 4th.

[Lord McBuckethead]

BallerTV cannot handle a replay.
Boom, Murphy for 3.

[parabrave]

Murphy with the 3. 46-45.

[parabrave]

Down 46 47 now,

[Lord McBuckethead]

Drake isn't afraid to take a long rebound deep to the rim.
Down 1.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Our entire team look tired.
How the hell are they tired?

[MoreCowbell]

About to lose this game.

[EdwardDrayton]

15 points in 16 1/2 minutes.

[parabrave]

48-47. 3 minjs to go. Cam finally goes to the rim/

[msstate7]

We may pull this out, but our team is not playing well for 3 straight games. That's concerning

[EdwardDrayton]

Our defense always gives us a chance to win. Just gotta' score a few points.

[parabrave]

Cam makes 2. tied 50-50.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We just let a white guy just dribble down the middle and hit a runner.
Down 2.

[parabrave]

Jeez.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Tolu playing just terrible defense on back to back possessions. Down 2.
Can we press a bit? only 42 seconds left. What are we waiting for?

[civildawg]

Scoring 50 points is just terrible

[RocketDawg]

We may lose this one.

[parabrave]

Dammit Cam WTF.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Why not a 17n timeout?

[civildawg]

We are going to have to hang on for dear life in conference play. Our offense is just bad

[MoreCowbell]

Game over. We might have needed this

[Lord McBuckethead]

Dude, this is some very terrible play and coaching here.
No energy. Just what the 17 on the no timeout there? He picked up his dribble. Call a damn timeout.

[parabrave]

Why not a 17n timeout?

Thats what Richard was saying. Why didn't we call a TO/

[msstate7]

Bama is gonna obliterate us on our home court next Wednesday. We won't score 30 points on them

[Lord McBuckethead]

We have better players at every position over this team... yet we played terribly on the offensive and defensive side of the ball.
2nd half, just couldn't even jack up shots. Turnover after turnover.

[Lord McBuckethead]

They can foul us one more time too.

[parabrave]

Well that be it. Can't suck at Offense by the starters.

[99jc]

what can you expect we have zero shooters.

[PMDawg]

Well, it's not like we were going undefeated. Sucks to lose this one, but it's not a killer. We just need to figure out how to get back to where we were before last week. Last week telegraphed this one coming.

[IngomarDawg]

zero offensive playmakers late in that second half...

[Lord McBuckethead]

Damn, shot at the end barely drew rim.
Alright....how much is our NET going to take a hit here?

Well that was embarrassing.

[ZedFedder]

Hopefully the team will learn from this moving forward.

[RocketDawg]

Fouling at the end just didn't work out. They were 100% on foul shots.

[parabrave]

Final stats

DJ 1-7 6 tos.
Aw screw the rest of it,. 38% FG 55% FT. 17 TOs. Thats all we need to know.

[MoreCowbell]

This game really pissed me off. I paid $10 to feel this way

[msstate7]

3rd straight game where we haven't been on the good side of assists to TO ratio and we haven't faced good competition. It's time to start being concerned

[RocketDawg]

We are going to have to hang on for dear life in conference play. Our offense is just bad

Conference play might be something to behold since we're starting off with Alabama and Tennessee. Need to learn how to make shots before next Wednesday.

[EdwardDrayton]

Twenty-one points in the second half. The offense has been a concern all season and the last couple of games only elevated that concern. We are who we are. Reed gave us a glimpse in the first half of someone stepping up with some outside point production. But just not sure we have the talent to be consistent offensively.

[Ranchdawg]

WTF you freaking nut case Cohen. Schedule our team to some no name tourney in the middle of nowhere and our fans can?t even watch it on tv. Way to go Cohen! Plus schedule 3 SWAC teams that do nothing for resume build.

Note to our new incoming AD whoever it is do not and repeat DO NOT use Cohen?s model as a way to run a atheletic department.

[RocketDawg]

Our entire team look tired.
How the hell are they tired?

It's 8 degrees in Omaha. Maybe they froze getting from the bus to the arena. That's probably the coldest our players have ever been in.

[NCMSTFAN]

Teams are figuring us out, that's a problem. If teams can contain Tolu for most of the game they have a shot at beating us. We are very limited offensively.

We have no Gaurd play.. our gaurds are all just ok, but we need an Iverson Molinar, Q Weatherspoon type guy. In College basketball you win with good gaurd play, and we just don't have it.

[msstate7]

It's 8 degrees in Omaha. Maybe they froze getting from the bus to the arena. That's probably the coldest our players have ever been in.

They've been frozen since the Minnesota win. Maybe they got frost bite leaving their stadium

[RocketDawg]

WTF you freaking nut case Cohen. Schedule our team to some no name tourney in the middle of nowhere and our fans can?t even watch it on tv. Way to go Cohen! Plus schedule 3 SWAC teams that do nothing for resume build.

Note to our new incoming AD whoever it is do not and repeat DO NOT use Cohen?s model as a way to run a atheletic department.

Agree with that. Plus, I don't like playing Alabama next Wednesday - we're going to see Mannheim Steamroller that night so I'll have to record and watch when I get in.

[CovertDawg]

I think Jans is a great coach but he totally whiffed in the portal at landing a reliable shooter. 13-33 from 2 today largely because we have no consistent shooters and teams can just put their entire team in the paint to defend us. We were 36 percent from 3 which is fine, but only making 7 threes when a team gives you open looks all game is not very impressive. Turnovers were the other obvious problem.

[msstate7]

Teams are figuring us out, that's a problem. If teams can contain Tolu for most of the game they have a shot at beating us. We are very limited offensively.

We have no Gaurd play.. our gaurds are all just ok, but we need an Iverson Molinar, Q Weatherspoon type guy. In College basketball you win with good gaurd play, and we just don't have it.

When will Moore be back. He's not a shooter, but he can play

[Homedawg]

WTF you freaking nut case Cohen. Schedule our team to some no name tourney in the middle of nowhere and our fans can?t even watch it on tv. Way to go Cohen! Plus schedule 3 SWAC teams that do nothing for resume build.

Note to our new incoming AD whoever it is do not and repeat DO NOT use Cohen?s model as a way to run a atheletic department.

Basketball coaches do their own scheduling. Just like baseball. Blame someone else.

[RocketDawg]

They've been frozen since the Minnesota win. Maybe they got frost bite leaving their stadium

I think it was a lot warmer in Minneapolis that day - lower 30s as I recall. That's downright balmy for them.

[NCMSTFAN]

When will Moore be back. He's not a shooter, but he can play

I agree, Moore can help us alot on the perimeter. He needs most of the minutes there, I'm not too impressed with Horton or Davis to be honest

[CaptainObvious]

Drake sucked on offense too. State shot more free throws. But Drake made all of theirs. But they best us from the perimeter. State gave up only 56 points and LOST. Ouch.

[NCMSTFAN]

I think Jans is a great coach but he totally whiffed in the portal at landing a reliable shooter. 13-33 from 2 today largely because we have no consistent shooters and teams can just put their entire team in the paint to defend us. We were 36 percent from 3 which is fine, but only making 7 threes when a team gives you open looks all game is not very impressive. Turnovers were the other obvious problem.

Good post, this was my concern all off season, Jans brought in a bunch of lunch pale hard nosed mid major guys which isn't all bad, but you have to go get some scoring and we lack that tremendously. Our best scorers are all Howlands guys, none of the transfers really contribute alot except for Davis on occasion.

[msstate7]

They have up 82 and 83 the previous two games.

Something happened to us between Minnesota and jsu, and we haven't been the same. Hopefully we can right the ship bc we about to be tested as much as anyone in the country the next couple weeks

[EdwardDrayton]

Teams are figuring us out, that's a problem. If teams can contain Tolu for most of the game they have a shot at beating us. We are very limited offensively.

We have no Gaurd play.. our gaurds are all just ok, but we need an Iverson Molinar, Q Weatherspoon type guy. In College basketball you win with good gaurd play, and we just don't have it.

Yep. Teams are doubling down on Tolu because we do not have a consistent outside threat. This loss was not a surprise to most of us. We will win a couple of big games where someone goes off and has a big scoring night. Hopefully we can cobble together enough wins otherwise in conference play to make the Dance.

[Goldendawg]

How in today's college game can you have a SEC team where it seems the majority of the team cannot hit a jump shot for 2 or even occasionally a 3? Defense will only keep you close at times if you cannot score. I remember years past when we looked good getting off the bus, but we had a team of athletes not basketball players. 500 in SEC may be tough.

[mparkerfd20]

DJ is killing us. I'm not his fan.

[PMDawg]

I'll never understand how we can suck so bad at free throws from year to year, team to team, and coach to coach. It's almost comical. I'm a short out of shape white guy in my 40s who never played organized basketball. But I can still hit 7 of 10 on a bad day. I understand tired legs affect it, but it's really just not that hard.

[PMDawg]

DJ is killing us. I'm not his fan.

He's especially bad considering this is like his 12th season of college basketball. **

[msstate7]

We shot 36.7% from 3 tonight. That's actually good for us. Our problem was TOs

[PMDawg]

We shot 36.7% from 3 tonight. That's actually good for us. Our problem was TOs

We had several problems tonight. But yes, that's been a big one lately.

[NCMSTFAN]

He's especially bad considering this is like his 12th season of college basketball. **

Lol exactly.. I pull for DJ because he is a good kid but he's the same player he was under Penny Hardaway and Ben Howland. His upside was always there but he just hasn't been able to reach it

[NCMSTFAN]

Yep. Teams are doubling down on Tolu because we do not have a consistent outside threat. This loss was not a surprise to most of us. We will win a couple of big games where someone goes off and has a big scoring night. Hopefully we can cobble together enough wins otherwise in conference play to make the Dance.

True, the scary part is we are playing close games or losing to teams getting blown out. Drake lost by 30 to a bad Richmond team! JSU lost by almost 40 to Texas tech... we have some issues to worry about with this team. Again, other teams have figured us out

[EdwardDrayton]

We shot 36.7% from 3 tonight. That's actually good for us. Our problem was TOs

Yep. We probably had close to twenty turnovers, lots of fouls and think our three point production was heavily first half. Hard to win with 21 points in the second half.

[msstate7]

I'm sure Jans would love to sit DJ, but who do you go to? Doesn't seem to be any upgrade. Guess we just gonna have to deal with his ups and downs

[parabrave]

Good post, this was my concern all off season, Jans brought in a bunch of lunch pale hard nosed mid major guys which isn't all bad, but you have to go get some scoring and we lack that tremendously. Our best scorers are all Howlands guys, none of the transfers really contribute alot except for Davis on occasion.

Stevens has been producing.

[Goldendawg]

We shot 36.7% from 3 tonight. That's actually good for us. Our problem was TOs

I thought he was playing more in control after going to all home games and watching the others on TV. Just listened to this one, but I don't like DJ handling the ball so much and really don't like him running the point. This team reminds me of our WR room in football, all our guards are similarly skilled and no one has stepped forward. I like Moore best. Maybe his return will help.

[EdwardDrayton]

I'm sure Jans would love to sit DJ, but who do you go to? Doesn't seem to be any upgrade. Guess we just gonna have to deal with his ups and downs

DJ has been disappointing in terms of no appreciable improvement from last season thus far. But he's one of the five best we have.

[NCMSTFAN]

Stevens has been producing.
I really like Steven's, he's another hard nosed tough guy. But he's not the scoring threat that we desperately need right now. He hadn't scored in double figures all season until the Nicholls State game. Again, really solid role player averaging 4.5 ppg and 3 rebs and that's no disrespect to him

[msstate7]

As disappointed as I am with these last 3 games, I woulda signed up for 1 loss right now without a moment of thought. Hopefully the team can regroup, and we (fans) can give them a home court advantage next week

[Goldendawg]

After today, do we even have anyone other than Tolo averaging double figures in ppg? O is a glaring problem.

[msstate7]

Perhaps today is the result of a voodoo spell from some jealous conference on the sec. Us, OM, and aTm lost. Bama is up 1 at the half on Jackson st

[NCMSTFAN]

After today, do we even have anyone other than Tolo averaging double figures in ppg? O is a glaring problem.

No we don't. Moore can be that other option, we need him back and he needs the bulk of the minutes

[RocketDawg]

I agree, Moore can help us alot on the perimeter. He needs most of the minutes there, I'm not too impressed with Horton or Davis to be honest

I don't remember when he was hurt. Do you know which game he was injured in?

[NCMSTFAN]

I don't remember when he was hurt. Do you know which game he was injured in?

It had to have happened in the Jackson State game or in practice, Jans hasn't really said when it occurred.

[Goldendawg]

I don't remember when he was hurt. Do you know which game he was injured in?

Heard it may have happened against Jackson when he tried to score on the ally oop from Tolo.

[CaptainObvious]

He limped off last week in Jackson.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Just need to get to 9-9 in SEC and we make tournament. It will be tough but that?s what really means something and will get us in the tournament

[EdwardDrayton]

Heard it may have happened against Jackson when he tried to score on the ally oop from Tolo.

Great. So it happened on a stupid play.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You paid money to watch a game that was streamed for free.

[EdwardDrayton]

You paid money to watch a game that was streamed for free.

You realize folks know you have no possible way of knowing that. Nonetheless I in fact listened to the audio. For free. But hey you did not really need what's left of your credibility anyway.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Drake is a solid team they will win the MVC. We will be fine. Our the games will be low scoring we win. We will probably start SEC play 3-5 but we will end 9-9 and make the tournament being 9-9. Go from there and see what happens

[parabrave]

No we don't. Moore can be that other option, we need him back and he needs the bulk of the minutes

Problem with Moore is that you don't know who will show up.

[NCMSTFAN]

Problem with Moore is that you don't know who will show up.

Honestly I'll take that over what I've seen from Davis and Horton. Davis has his times but he's not a volume scorer, Horton honestly doesn't provide much at all offensively. Shak gives us the most offensive firepower and that's what we need badly right now, plus he leads the team in steals.

Heck I wouldn't mind seeing Martavious Russell or even Shawn Jones Jr. play more, we are really struggling to score and need help badly

[parabrave]

Honestly I'll take that over what I've seen from Davis and Horton. Davis has his times but he's not a volume scorer, Horton honestly doesn't provide much at all offensively. Shak gives us the most offensive firepower and that's what we need badly right now, plus he leads the team in steals.

Heck I wouldn't mind seeing Martavious Russell or even Shawn Jones Jr. play more, we are really struggling to score and need help badly

And just having DJ quit with the terrible shots will help.

[NCMSTFAN]

And just having DJ quit with the terrible shots will help.

Exactly!!!

[Ranchdawg]

Basketball coaches do their own scheduling. Just like baseball. Blame someone else.

Maybe they do make their own schedules but I seriously doubt that Cohen wasn?t consulted with the schedule before being finalized. Therefore the blame lays with the head boss which was Cohen.