Zavion Thomas

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Don?t be shocked to see him in the Portal soon. Geaux Tigers is interested.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Yep. Looks like LSU is trying to pick him off.

[confucius say]

Sounds like tampering since he's not in the portal. Same thing going on with Dcam by other sec teams.

Sankey needs to put a stop to that. It's explicitly against the rules.

[msstate7]

Sounds like tampering since he's not in the portal. Same thing going on with Dcam by other sec teams.

Sankey needs to put a stop to that. It's explicitly against the rules.

Hahahahhahahha

They shoulda put an end to paying recruits before NIL bc it was against the rules. There are no rules anymore

[Maroonthirteen]

Ok, who is the current LSU player that this would affect? If you bring in a new guy, they plan to play them? Whose minutes/catches does the new guy take? State should offer that guy.

[msstate7]

Ok, who is the current LSU player that this would affect? If you bring in a new guy, they plan to play them? Whose minutes/catches does the new guy take? State should offer that guy.

Are they wanting him for more than a return specialist?

And he's from Louisiana, so he gone if they want him

[Dawgtini]

Ok, who is the current LSU player that this would affect? If you bring in a new guy, they plan to play them? Whose minutes/catches does the new guy take? State should offer that guy.

This is what Z needs to know. And if a new shiny guy shows up next year guess who is on the curb.

[Matt3467]

Lol this is a circus show. The big boys still get the pick of the crop and teams like us are left with a revolving door team each year it appears. Thought this was supposed to give parity to the teams yet it doesn't look that way to me.

[PikeDawg15]

This is what Z needs to know. And if a new shiny guy shows up next year guess who is on the curb.
D

[TrapGame]

This is what I'm talking about!!!

A player not even in the portal and a school is offering a NIL deal to transfer.

Absolute and total BULLSHIT!

Any school caught doing this should PERMANENTLY lose a scholarship. Where are you NCAA?!!

[Coach34]

NCAA oversight is no more

[PikeDawg15]

Gonna start doing some more hunting and fishing , college football has died. I don?t watch much professional sports.

No point in being a fan of a mid tier power 5 anymore because you can offer a guy a scholarship whose next best offer in south alabama or southern miss and you develop him into a good player and his ass is gone to the school that didn?t think he was good enough

We are the testing ground.

Ole Miss hasn?t been out bid on a player yet because they are all in on football and we are not all in on football

Hey guys the Dude is beautiful though!

[confucius say]

Hahahahhahahha

They shoulda put an end to paying recruits before NIL bc it was against the rules. There are no rules anymore

Then what are we even doing? Interest will dwindle quickly.

[msstate7]

Then what are we even doing? Interest will dwindle quickly.

It is dwindling. Attendance already falling off

[confucius say]

NCAA oversight is no more

Which is why it's time to break away and form our own entity. Put in place whatever rules you want because antitrust will no longer be an issue. You solicit a player, you get hammered like the NFL does to teams.

[confucius say]

It is dwindling. Attendance already falling off

Yep. Can't say I blame people.
TV is still there though since there is nothing better to watch, but that will dwindle too.

[deltadawg63]

Don't be fooled...It's a 2-way street. The players are using their high school coaches and/or handlers/trainers to be the intermediary on information sharing so no direct contact until it's in the portal. Straight up bidding and supply & demand process! Gonna be harder and harder to find diamonds in the rough and develop the potential in players and keep them in this current system I'm afraid.

And I predict overall bowl attendance to be an all-time low or close to that with very few exceptions.

[confucius say]

Gonna start doing some more hunting and fishing , college football has died. I don?t watch much professional sports.

No point in being a fan of a mid tier power 5 anymore because you can offer a guy a scholarship whose next best offer in south alabama or southern miss and you develop him into a good player and his ass is gone to the school that didn?t think he was good enough

We are the testing ground.

Ole Miss hasn?t been out bid on a player yet because they are all in on football and we are not all in on football

Hey guys the Dude is beautiful though!

I think a lot of people are really turned off by the current system. It's going to cause a decrease in interest.

[confucius say]

Don't be fooled...It's a 2-way street. The players are using their high school coaches and/or handlers/trainers to be the intermediary on information sharing so no direct contact until it's in the portal. Straight up bidding and supply & demand process! Gonna be harder and harder to find diamonds in the rough and develop the potential in players and keep them in this current system I'm afraid.

Sounds like Mike Espy.

[PikeDawg15]

Sounds like Mike Espy.

17 Mike Espy

[Vandownbytheriver]

It is dwindling. Attendance already falling off

That's what happens when the university starts outpacing peoples pocket books. Not only have tickets continued to rise, BDC donations have gone up over the years for seats. Now you have to kick in money to help buy players. All the while the gameday experience has largely stayed the same. You can't sell people potted meat and tell him it's a filet.

[Extendedcab]

That's what happens when the university starts outpacing peoples pocket books. Not only have tickets continued to rise, BDC donations have gone up over the years for seats. Now you have to kick in money to help buy players. All the while the gameday experience has largely stayed the same. You can't sell people potted meat and tell him it's a filet.

I agree, how can they expect better fan acceptance when they are charging more for the same "product"? There comes a point where the fans say it is just not worth it anymore. They priced themselves out of the average Joe's price range!

[Pancho]

and I gots a nice large big screen TV

[Leroy Jenkins]

It will be to the point that you can't take a player's commitment unless they have already transferred once.

[msstate7]

Gonna have to be some sort of penalty for taking a transfer like it takes away a spot for an incoming freshman. For example, you bring in 5 transfers, you can only sign 20.

[confucius say]

I agree, how can they expect better fan acceptance when they are charging more for the same "product"? There comes a point where the fans say it is just not worth it anymore. They priced themselves out of the average Joe's price range!

Fans will have to pay more for us to win. Bottom line. Which sucks for us, because our fans won't even donate $20 a month!!

[confucius say]

Gonna have to be some sort of penalty for taking a transfer like it takes away a spot for an incoming freshman. For example, you bring in 5 transfers, you can only sign 20.

Doing away with the annul cap on signees was beyond stupid. It was 25. Should be 20 honestly. That's HS, juco, transfers combined. That would fix a ton of this.

[Bothrops]

Doing away with the annul cap on signees was beyond stupid. It was 25. Should be 20 honestly. That's HS, juco, transfers combined. That would fix a ton of this.

We don't even have sound minds running the country, why would college athletics be bound by obligation.

[confucius say]

We don't even have sound minds running the country, why would college athletics be bound by obligation.

What's weird is that the schools (coaches) voted for this. That was dumb.

[PikeDawg15]

Fans will have to pay more for us to win. Bottom line. Which sucks for us, because our fans won't even donate $20 a month!!

I donate $50 a month currently.

It sucks

[PikeDawg15]

Doing away with the annul cap on signees was beyond stupid. It was 25. Should be 20 honestly. That's HS, juco, transfers combined. That would fix a ton of this.

Im scared that a future super conference will be formed in the next 10 years and we will get left out.

[TheLostDawg]

What's weird is that the schools (coaches) voted for this. That was dumb.

We're about to find out if Keenum really has any pull

[Extendedcab]

What's weird is that the schools (coaches) voted for this. That was dumb.

OK, what value did coaches see in voting for this madness? Did they just not understand the consequences or were they wanting to cause the Blue Blood issues? This is crazy!

[PikeDawg15]

We're about to find out if Keenum really has any pull

This is what I would do

Its not perfect but


When you sign out of high school you will have to stay there UNLESS your head coach or Coordinator leaves or is fired

you can receive NIL ONLY through a collective set up directly associated with the University

NCAA sets a hard cap for NIL and schools will have to decide who is worth what and so on so forth

You can transfer anywhere in the country AFTER you graduate

If you just HAVE to transfer BEFORE you graduate and neither your head coach nor your specific coordinator has left the program, you will be required to sit out 1 year but not lose a year of eligibility if you transfer OUTSIDE of your conference

If you are doing that same thing INSIDE your own conference, you will have the choice of sitting out 1 full season AND losing 1 year of eligibility OR sitting out 2 full seasons but not losing any eligbility for those 2 seasons.

That would stop this real quick

I also would be in favor of conferences themselves deciding their own Collective cap limit

If the SEC decided to set their cap limit per year to 15 million per year that would still benefit Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Auburn, Florida, Georgia

But its better than the absolute shit show we have now

[PikeDawg15]

This is what I would do

Its not perfect but


When you sign out of high school you will have to stay there UNLESS your head coach or Coordinator leaves or is fired

you can receive NIL ONLY through a collective set up directly associated with the University

NCAA sets a hard cap for NIL and schools will have to decide who is worth what and so on so forth

You can transfer anywhere in the country AFTER you graduate

If you just HAVE to transfer BEFORE you graduate and neither your head coach nor your specific coordinator has left the program, you will be required to sit out 1 year but not lose a year of eligibility if you transfer OUTSIDE of your conference

If you are doing that same thing INSIDE your own conference, you will have the choice of sitting out 1 full season AND losing 1 year of eligibility OR sitting out 2 full seasons but not losing any eligbility for those 2 seasons.

That would stop this real quick

I also would be in favor of conferences themselves deciding their own Collective cap limit

If the SEC decided to set their cap limit per year to 15 million per year that would still benefit Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Auburn, Florida, Georgia

But its better than the absolute shit show we have now

So a few examples

Bo Nix could have left Auburn for oregon without any penalty at all because his original Head coach and OC that he signed to had been fired from Auburn so he can leave , he could even go to alabama if he wanted because of the rule I would put into place


Rara Thomas would have to choose between 2 options if he went to Georgia because Leach has not been fired or left. He would either have to sit out 2023 season and burn a year of eligiblity for that season to go to Georgia or he could sit out 2023 and 2024 but have lost no years of eligibility

If Rara left for Florida State , he would have to sit out 2023 but not lose any eligibility and be available to play in 2024 with the same eligibility

All of these teams would have to coordinate with the collective and decide who gets what from the collective and who is worth what and those players will have to think about salary space available before signing with that team.


Too many 3 stars bust on themselves when they see that LSU offer and chose LSU over Mississippi state where they couldve started but now are stuck as 4th string water boy because they saw those jerseys.

Stupid decisions equal stupid prizes dumbass

[Maroonthirteen]

Doing away with the annul cap on signees was beyond stupid. It was 25. Should be 20 honestly. That's HS, juco, transfers combined. That would fix a ton of this.

From what I read, the unlimited signees is for one more year. However I believe schools are still limited to 85 scholarships on roster. So.... lsu has to be losing someone to make room. Or lose a signee to stay under 85.

Maybe LSU is cutting someone or many

[confucius say]

I donate $50 a month currently.

It sucks

Same. Plus some one time payments here and there.
We have like 11k bulldog club members.
If we had just 4K people giving $50 a month, which should be easy to do if we have a fanbase that cares at all, that would be 2.4 million a year before any major gifts. We can make that work.

[confucius say]

From what I read, the unlimited signees is for one more year. However I believe schools are still limited to 85 scholarships on roster. So.... lsu has to be losing someone to make room. Or lose a signee to stay under 85.

Maybe LSU is cutting someone or many

The 85 limit still applies, yes.
A lot of schools are processing guys in order to make room for new, better guys. There is zero penalty for mismanagement of a roster, which is stupid. The one year cap needs to be reinstalled and reduced to 20.

[confucius say]

OK, what value did coaches see in voting for this madness? Did they just not understand the consequences or were they wanting to cause the Blue Blood issues? This is crazy!

They were scared they would not be able to replace guys jumping in the portal if they were limited to 25 new schollies per year. Which is bad logic. The way to reduce portal activity is certainly not to increase potential landing spots by removing the 25 annual limit. Dumb.

[msstate7]

Same. Plus some one time payments here and there.
We have like 11k bulldog club members.
If we had just 4K people giving $50 a month, which should be easy to do if we have a fanbase that cares at all, that would be 2.4 million a year before any major gifts. We can make that work.

Meanwhile, supposedly Sam Hartman has been offered 2 million to put off the nfl and transfer. This is per tRant, so who knows if true

[confucius say]

Meanwhile, supposedly Sam Hartman has been offered 2 million to put off the nfl and transfer. This is per tRant, so who knows if true

That's crazy.
But that aside, it will be important that whomever our coach is can do more with less and, importantly, nail the qb spot. QB will demand the most money in the portal, money that we won't have. But If we have a homegrown qb, we can do enough to get pieces around him.

[ShotgunDawg]

That's crazy.
But that aside, it will be important that whomever our coach is can do more with less and, importantly, nail the qb spot. QB will demand the most money in the portal, money that we won't have. But If we have a homegrown qb, we can do enough to get pieces around him.

How do you suppose we would home grow a great QB and prevent him from leaving for $2 mil with someone else?

[confucius say]

How do you suppose we would home grow a great QB and prevent him from leaving for $2 mil with someone else?

Playing in a system that throws it 50 times a game that centers entirely around him and in which he is a star. It's not foolproof, but a good selling point.
But to your point, you need a qb developer on staff so you always have one in the pipeline.

[Homedawg]

The 85 limit still applies, yes.
A lot of schools are processing guys in order to make room for new, better guys. There is zero penalty for mismanagement of a roster, which is stupid. The one year cap needs to be reinstalled and reduced to 20.

so what if you are one of the schools getting robbed of players? you shouldn't be able to get back to 85? That would be a disaster.

[confucius say]

so what if you are one of the schools getting robbed of players? you shouldn't be able to get back to 85? That would be a disaster.

I would say three things. One, If there are only 20 spots per school each year, you're not going to be getting robbed of players near as much. LSU wouldn't have room for Zavion, for example. You might lose 2-3, but not 10-12.
Two, it forces schools to spend their NIL collective monies on retaining players, not buying new players.
Three, if you're losing the Reed Buoys of the world to lower level schools, you should suffer from that because that is a recruiting miss and roster mismanagement.

[Goldendawg]

Don't be fooled...It's a 2-way street. The players are using their high school coaches and/or handlers/trainers to be the intermediary on information sharing so no direct contact until it's in the portal. Straight up bidding and supply & demand process! Gonna be harder and harder to find diamonds in the rough and develop the potential in players and keep them in this current system I'm afraid.

And I predict overall bowl attendance to be an all-time low or close to that with very few exceptions.

Just got a State email from Bracky asking to buy our allotment of bowl tickets "as they will sell out soon". Haven't gone since the Music City Bowl a few years back and they were next to the top, "Bob Uecker seats" through the university. Is situation the same this year on seating? Also, how many players have opted out or in the portal? We may see a team opt out for lack of players or you see a second string, spring practice type game in a meaningless bowl.

[Pancho]

already got ours. bracky gone bracky

[Commercecomet24]

Just got a State email from Bracky asking to buy our allotment of bowl tickets "as they will sell out soon". Haven't gone since the Music City Bowl a few years back and they were next to the top, "Bob Uecker seats" through the university. Is situation the same this year on seating? Also, how many players have opted out or in the portal? We may see a team opt out for lack of players or you see a second string, spring practice type game in a meaningless bowl.

Lol got the same email!

[Homedawg]

I would say three things. One, If there are only 20 spots per school each year, you're not going to be getting robbed of players near as much. LSU wouldn't have room for Zavion, for example. You might lose 2-3, but not 10-12.
Two, it forces schools to spend their NIL collective monies on retaining players, not buying new players.
Three, if you're losing the Reed Buoys of the world to lower level schools, you should suffer from that because that is a recruiting miss and roster mismanagement.

Lsu absolutely would have room for zavion. They cut the trash and get better. We get left holding the bag!! Lsu has plenty of money to keep old and buy new. You normally have some good takes. But this one is short sided and not thought out. The little guy gets killed way worse than the big guy in your scenario

[TheLostDawg]

Sec would not put a cap unless all power 5 did it at the same time. That's why you need someone like Keenum, if he's really a influential as people say, to get the college president and AD on board and implement this.

Also if this isn't about the school anymore but the sport, start a draft. (Yes I know this will never happen unless there was a major overhaul d1 becoming just ACC, SEC, etc)

[msu15]

Just got a State email from Bracky asking to buy our allotment of bowl tickets "as they will sell out soon". Haven't gone since the Music City Bowl a few years back and they were next to the top, "Bob Uecker seats" through the university. Is situation the same this year on seating? Also, how many players have opted out or in the portal? We may see a team opt out for lack of players or you see a second string, spring practice type game in a meaningless bowl.
Same. I'll pass