Forbes

[chef dixon]

How much NIL we need to get him to come back next year?***

Where would y'all rank him all time state DB? He's gotta be right at the top

[Leeshouldveflanked]

He is a late first round early second round pick. He ain?t coming back

[Leroy Jenkins]

He is a late first round early second round pick. He ain?t coming back

0% chance he's back. 10% he even plays in the bowl.

I think we have had an NFL corner every year since Banks.

[BeardoMSU]

He is a late first round early second round pick. He ain?t coming back


0% chance he's back. 10% he even plays in the bowl.

I think we have had an NFL corner every year since Banks.

Y'all missed Chef's sarcasterisks, lol.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Y'all missed Chef's sarcasterisks, lol.

He didn't need any * for us to know he was joking.

[R2Dawg]

How much NIL we need to get him to come back next year?***

Where would y'all rank him all time state DB? He's gotta be right at the top

Boy we've had some good ones over the years. Smoot, Bean, Banks, Slay, Emerson, Forbes, going back a way wasn't it Walt Harris who had a nice pro career with Bears?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Boy we've had some good ones over the years. Smoot, Bean, Banks, Slay, Emerson, Forbes, going back a way wasn't it Walt Harris who had a nice pro career with Bears?

Even Broomfield had a great Sr. Year 6 pics and 3 TD's.

[Commercecomet24]

Forbes won't be coming back next year but don't count him out of the bowl game just yet. He's leaning toward playing.

[Cowbell]

Forbes won't be coming back next year but don't count him out of the bowl game just yet. He's leaning toward playing.

I think it would help if we draw a big name like Notre Dame

[LC Dawg]

Forbes won't be coming back next year but don't count him out of the bowl game just yet. He's leaning toward playing.

That's great. I'm sure he will be set up with some great insurance. But I won't disparage him if he doesn't. He's a great Bulldog.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Forbes was targeted in man coverage 15 times. It's low because teams just quit throwing to him... but on those 15 targets he allowed 3 completions, 6 yards after he catch, and 6 INTs, and returned 3 for TDs.

He's an absolute monster and should win the Thorpe. No way he comes back.

PS for those who don't follow the pros- Martin Emmerson has been very solid for the Browns. They'd happy they used a 3rd on him. We have been blessed with some great corners and I pray it continues

[Commercecomet24]

That's great. I'm sure he will be set up with some great insurance. But I won't disparage him if he doesn't. He's a great Bulldog.

Agree 100% he's all Dawg and he's played dinged up this year.

[confucius say]

He's the best player in the state and should win the Connerly tbh

[Commercecomet24]

Forbes was targeted in man coverage 15 times. It's low because teams just quit throwing to him... but on those 15 targets he allowed 3 completions, 6 yards after he catch, and 6 INTs, and returned 3 for TDs.

He's an absolute monster and should win the Thorpe. No way he comes back.

PS for those who don't follow the pros- Martin Emmerson has been very solid for the Browns. They'd happy they used a 3rd on him. We have been blessed with some great corners and I pray it continues

That's crazy good stats! He gonna get paid!

Emerson pretty much shutdown mike evans today.

[Johnson85]

Boy we've had some good ones over the years. Smoot, Bean, Banks, Slay, Emerson, Forbes, going back a way wasn't it Walt Harris who had a nice pro career with Bears?

We had a corner that honestly didn?t seem that good for us play for the Giants and have some longevity. Dockery maybe?

[Commercecomet24]

We had a corner that honestly didn?t seem that good for us play for the Giants and have some longevity. Dockery maybe?

Kevin Dockery yep

[msu15]

Another one you have to give credit to Joe and his staff for. They missed out on a lot of game changers in his two full years recruiting here(Derrick Hall alone would've added about 5 wins these past two seasons), but man on some of the ones they did hit on man they HIT.

[BrunswickDawg]

Even Broomfield had a great Sr. Year 6 pics and 3 TD's.

Don't forget Taveze Calhoun. Made some huge plays for us, then spent 3-4 years in the league. Now back on staff too. All Dawg.

[Todd4State]

That's great. I'm sure he will be set up with some great insurance. But I won't disparage him if he doesn't. He's a great Bulldog.
These players are competitors first and foremost.

[R2Dawg]

Don't forget Taveze Calhoun. Made some huge plays for us, then spent 3-4 years in the league. Now back on staff too. All Dawg.

Loved the way Calhoun played. Way under rated out of high school. Broom and Dockery also good ones. Dockery played in the league too.

I know they call LSU DBU but MSU ain't far behind.

[cheewgumm]

I Love Frobes, but he should NOT play in the bowl game.

to omuch riding on it. Hate to say that, but id advise him not to play.

He's done enough.

[parabrave]

I Love Frobes, but he should NOT play in the bowl game.

to omuch riding on it. Hate to say that, but id advise him not to play.

He's done enough.

Yep. I'm sure Wheat has been told the same/ Plus give the guys who are returning practice time.

[HancockCountyDog]

I Love Frobes, but he should NOT play in the bowl game.

to omuch riding on it. Hate to say that, but id advise him not to play.

He's done enough.

I wish Leach would come out and announce Forbes as an honorary captain, but that he isn?t playing.

I think you gain a lot of credibility with crootts by doing something like that.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I Love Frobes, but he should NOT play in the bowl game.

to omuch riding on it. Hate to say that, but id advise him not to play.

He's done enough.


I would tell anyone holding a 1st round grade to sit any bowl, short of playing for a natty. I'm not gonna shred my lottery ticket on the way to cash it in.

[LC Dawg]

I wish Leach would come out and announce Forbes as an honorary captain, but that he isn?t playing.

I think you gain a lot of credibility with crootts by doing something like that.

Do you make everyone that sits out an honorary captain? Because you could lose credibility with croots if you don't. I'm all for appreciating our players but I think this could be a slippery slope.

[TALL DAWG]

Play in the bowl games!
The odds of getting hurt in playing one more game are real slim.
And, even if they get hurt doesn?t mean it?s going to drop their stock much.
Look at the QB from Louiville who got hurt in his last bowl game. He has made millions playing for Baltimore and I believe was STILL a first rounder.
Look at Jeff Simmons. I think (not 100% sure) he played in a bowl game but then got seriously hurt while working out on his own after the bowl game and was STILL a first rounder. His 2nd contract is going to be a MONSTER.
Again, play in the bowl games.

[Bothrops]

Does anyone think he'll get the Thorpe award?

[BeardoMSU]

Does anyone think he'll get the Thorpe award?
Nope. What a bunch of BS.

https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1597612648220463105?t=cJYORv50BnNbMdsv0wIzkw&s=19

[Bothrops]

Nope. What a bunch of BS.

https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1597612648220463105?t=cJYORv50BnNbMdsv0wIzkw&s=19

We could have the greatest football player that ever played the game at any level, and get picked over.

[HancockCountyDog]

Do you make everyone that sits out an honorary captain? Because you could lose credibility with croots if you don't. I'm all for appreciating our players but I think this could be a slippery slope.

I think anyone leaving early or that received a solid draft grade you have them sit out. I think you are sending a message and to recruits and your own players, that you care more about their future than you do your own success in winning a fairly meaningless bowl game.

Just my thought, I know everyone is not going to agree with me on this.

I just think it would resonate with top level recruits.

[Extendedcab]

I disagree - which this logic, why play your senior year? Why play any year for that matter - risk of getting injured and recovery time being extended, its not worth it.

[shoeless joe]

Redmond

[HancockCountyDog]

I disagree - which this logic, why play your senior year? Why play any year for that matter - risk of getting injured and recovery time being extended, its not worth it.

Well for some extremely top level players this is already happening. Jamar Chase and Singletary at LSU did basically that and all that happened is they became top 5 draft picks and are two of the best players in the league.

We are talking about a mid tier bowl game. You can certainly give the players the option to play, but I think its a disservice to the player.

If Saban lets Bryce Young or Will Anderson risk their top 10 draft status to play in a bowl game, he should be slammed. Every coach that risks their player's health when they are a projected first round pick, should be required to talk to Jaylon Smith from Notre Dame. He went from projected top 5 pick to a 2nd round pick. Cost him over 15 million dollars.

[HeCannotGo]

I disagree - which this logic, why play your senior year? Why play any year for that matter - risk of getting injured and recovery time being extended, its not worth it.

I'm with you on this. To take it a step further, where do you draw the line on which players to sit? Just the top picks, or anyone that might get drafted? Anyone that might make a practice squad?

I'm also dubious that sitting Forbes would score points with recruits. High school seniors are immortal in their own minds and don't care to contemplate the possibility of injury. And even if it does help a little with recruiting some players, I think it's a negative message overall, because you're telling your team that you're fine with the chance of 84 of them getting hurt but not willing to risk one or two guys. You preach teamwork and team above individuals all year; I don't think you should throw those lessons away lightly.

[BeardoMSU]

Forbes being snubbed is even more egregious when you compare the stats...

https://twitter.com/robbiefaulk247/status/1597613915504082946?s=20&t=n5qw3eeDzSKrYyi6PAbBmw

[Goldendawg]

I think anyone leaving early or that received a solid draft grade you have them sit out. I think you are sending a message and to recruits and your own players, that you care more about their future than you do your own success in winning a fairly meaningless bowl game.

Just my thought, I know everyone is not going to agree with me on this.

I just think it would resonate with top level recruits.

There are 41 bowl games, (may have to get a couple of 5-7 teams to play), and most of them are now meaningless except for $, as a reward for the players and valuable additional practice time for younger players. I no longer get upset if players like Forbes and Wheat decide to sit out. Thank them for their contributions and enjoy getting a glimpse of the future watching the next men up. JMO. Note: Got my last bowl tickets though Bulldog Club for Music City Bowl, next to the last row at the top of the stadium with about 20K empty seats below us. Moved down to get out of the frigid wind.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Unless it is a playoff game, bowls are just exhibitions.

[Matt3467]

Forbes being snubbed is even more egregious when you compare the stats...

https://twitter.com/robbiefaulk247/status/1597613915504082946?s=20&t=n5qw3eeDzSKrYyi6PAbBmw

Yea I read on Genespage that per Pro Football Focus he also has the best pass allowed rating in the SEC. Him not winning is robbery.

[Johnson85]

Well for some extremely top level players this is already happening. Jamar Chase and Singletary at LSU did basically that and all that happened is they became top 5 draft picks and are two of the best players in the league.

We are talking about a mid tier bowl game. You can certainly give the players the option to play, but I think its a disservice to the player.

If Saban lets Bryce Young or Will Anderson risk their top 10 draft status to play in a bowl game, he should be slammed. Every coach that risks their player's health when they are a projected first round pick, should be required to talk to Jaylon Smith from Notre Dame. He went from projected top 5 pick to a 2nd round pick. Cost him over 15 million dollars.

So you don't think Youn or Anderson should risk their health for the iron bowl since they are realistically out of the playoffs? Why is a bowl game any more or less meaningful than regular season games after a conference and national championship are off the table? I'm not going to bash players that don't play. But I don't understand why they wouldn't extend that logic into their last year on campus.

[bulldawg28]

We could have the greatest football player that ever played the game at any level, and get picked over.

Smoot came in 2nd and Banks won it

[HancockCountyDog]

So you don't think Youn or Anderson should risk their health for the iron bowl since they are realistically out of the playoffs? Why is a bowl game any more or less meaningful than regular season games after a conference and national championship are off the table? I'm not going to bash players that don't play. But I don't understand why they wouldn't extend that logic into their last year on campus.

They still have a shot at the playoffs so it makes sense why they would keep playing, since they want to win a title.

Let me ask you this, if you were appointed guardian of Will Anderson and you had a fiduciary duty to him and his family, and you had confirmation from as many NFL teams that you wanted that he was a sure fire top 5 pick as of today, and Bama misses the playoffs and goes to the Sugar Bowl to play Texas, and Will Anderson came to you and asked "what is in my family's best interests regarding playing in the bowl game?"

What would you tell him?

You would tell him to go play and risk it blowing out a knee on the artificial turf of the Superdome? You would tell him to risk it? What rational basis would you give him? If he had a young wife and child, would that change your mind?

If you have a winning lottery ticket in your pocket worth 20 million, do you wait a week to cash it in, and during that week do you put the ticket through the wash? I mean, the ticket will probably be fine, but would you do that?

[parabrave]

They still have a shot at the playoffs so it makes sense why they would keep playing, since they want to win a title.

Let me ask you this, if you were appointed guardian of Will Anderson and you had a fiduciary duty to him and his family, and you had confirmation from as many NFL teams that you wanted that he was a sure fire top 5 pick as of today, and Bama misses the playoffs and goes to the Sugar Bowl to play Texas, and Will Anderson came to you and asked "what is in my family's best interests regarding playing in the bowl game?"

What would you tell him?

You would tell him to go play and risk it blowing out a knee on the artificial turf of the Superdome? You would tell him to risk it? What rational basis would you give him? If he had a young wife and child, would that change your mind?

If you have a winning lottery ticket in your pocket worth 20 million, do you wait a week to cash it in, and during that week do you put the ticket through the wash? I mean, the ticket will probably be fine, but would you do that?

I just remember that runner from SC who was predicted to be a high draft pick and Spurrier left him in one play. It was against us and he tore his knee up. And that RB from OH ST who tore his knee up in a bowl game Willis Mcghee/ Now he was playing in the NC game so he had to play. But in a meaningless game hell no and outside of the CFP they are not what they used to be..

[HancockCountyDog]

I just remember that runner from SC who was predicted to be a high draft pick and Spurrier left him in one play. It was against us and he tore his knee up. And that RB from OH ST who tore his knee up in a bowl game Willis Mcghee/ Now he was playing in the NC game so he had to play. But in a meaningless game hell no and outside of the CFP they are not what they used to be..

Jaylon Smith from ND is the best example. He was predicted to be a top 5-10 draft pick.

He blew out his knee in the Fiesta Bowl. He ended up being drafted in the 2nd round and his contract was approximately 10 million dollars less than Jack Conklin drafted 8th overall.

Brian Kelly sure as hell didn't make up the difference.