Primetime is our best option if Leach retires.

[ImissCityBagel]

1. His strength would be recruiting and working the NIL game. This is an area where we are weak.

2. Has coached in Mississippi.

3. Could have a CEO program built around him so we aren't married to a system. Flexibility has always helped us.

4. Would help the MSU brand in general. With Dak and Primetime, a lot of kids would see State as directly affiliated with the NFL (what they care about anyway).

5. The market for coaches is competitive this year, but Sanders is usually no.3 on most people's lists. If we offer first, we could actually get him instead of a retread or an up-and-coming coordinator.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I would be fine with hiring Deion if he gets quality coordinators. Would be nice to keep Arnett and then hire a solid OC.

[drummerdawg]

100% behind hiring Prime

[parabrave]

Deon has his sights on another State.

[ScoobaDawg]

Deon has his sights on another State.

Exactly. Dion is only in this state because he wanted to prove something at a certain type of school. (HBS)
He won't ever be our coach.

[Johnson85]

1. His strength would be recruiting and working the NIL game. This is an area where we are weak.

2. Has coached in Mississippi.

3. Could have a CEO program built around him so we aren't married to a system. Flexibility has always helped us.

4. Would help the MSU brand in general. With Dak and Primetime, a lot of kids would see State as directly affiliated with the NFL (what they care about anyway).

5. The market for coaches is competitive this year, but Sanders is usually no.3 on most people's lists. If we offer first, we could actually get him instead of a retread or an up-and-coming coordinator.

Hiring a coach without good evidence he can coach is a risky proposition. I'm also curious just how much people are planning to pay Deion to be CEO, and also to pay coordinators to do the actual coaching. We'd need probably $3M a year just for an offensive and defensive coordinator.

[yjnkdawg]

Coaching in the SWAC where you have more talent on your football team than any other team in that conference is altogether different than coaching in the SEC. Limited time as a college head coach and he is not an x and o's coach but more like a CEO. Would he have the connections to get the type of coaches you would need to compete in the SEC, and then the money to pay these coaches? I do think he would definitely help in marketing the MSU brand. Some even think CML is going to step down after the Egg Bowl and Coach Prime is an option. So you may get your wish, but I wouldn't bet any money on either of those happening.

[Coach34]

I dont see any SEC school hiring PrimeTime as their HC.

[Desoto1967]

If Leach leaves, State will either get a HC from the G5 or coordinator from the P5

[Santiago]

Prime won't get hired directly to an SEC job from the SWAC.
Also people don't seem to realize although the hiring of Prime might be exciting, the divorce from Prime could be way worse than anything imaginable. Especially if the university has to pull the trigger to fire him.

[DEDawg]

I don't care, give me Freeze. He would kill it here with NIL being allowed. That being said, I'd be fine with Primetime. You gotta take chances here. Worst case you move on after 2 seasons and try again.

[yjnkdawg]

I don't care, give me Freeze. He would kill it here with NIL being allowed. That being said, I'd be fine with Primetime. You gotta take chances here. Worst case you move on after 2 seasons and try again.


Talk about a split and disorganized fan base. This trying again stuff every few years doesn't work.

[Jack Lambert]

I don't care, give me Freeze. He would kill it here with NIL being allowed. That being said, I'd be fine with Primetime. You gotta take chances here. Worst case you move on after 2 seasons and try again.

And he would help people.*****

[StarkVegasSteve]

I would be ok with Freeze, I would be ok with Deion, hell I could talk myself into Malzahn. Give me a guy who knows how to win, can adapt scheme to talent, and will be able to navigate the NIL world.

[BoomBoom]

I don't care, give me Freeze. He would kill it here with NIL being allowed. That being said, I'd be fine with Primetime. You gotta take chances here. Worst case you move on after 2 seasons and try again.

No, the worst case is you move on and he takes all the best talent with him. 4-5 years before you can compete again. At least with a typical hire you're only 2 years away from competing.

[basedog]

Deon has his sights on another State.

Naw, he just wants out of Jackson!! He would be a good hire and we wouldn't have to break the "bank" Gamble maybe but worth a try with the pup, recruiting and NIL he brings to the table.

[basedog]

Prime won't get hired directly to an SEC job from the SWAC.
Also people don't seem to realize although the hiring of Prime might be exciting, the divorce from Prime could be way worse than anything imaginable. Especially if the university has to pull the trigger to fire him.

Croom tried to destroy and some were with him, but IF PT failed time would pass quickly.

[Duckdog]

How about not only no but fuuuuuuuucccckkkkkk nooooooooo

[SteelCurtain74]

First, I've seen where Deion has allegedly been talking with Colorado and South Florida about their jobs, so I'm not sure where we would fall in his pecking order if we were even interested

Second, I would agree with the other poster in regards to how ugly the divorce would be if it didn't work out. He has a bigger bullhorn than most coaches, and if it went south, it could become very damaging to MSU.

Third. the narrative about his recruiting has been a bit overblown. The five star he pulled plays cb. Pretty easy sell to a kid to learn from one of the best of all time at the position he plays. Six of the eight 4 stars he recruited play wr, cb or both. Again, easier sell if the coach played at the highest level at those positions. Also, consider he's using the HBCU sales pitch to get some of these kids. Once he's gone from JSU, that pitch goes out the window.

Looking at the lineman and other positions, I see a bunch of 3 stars and transfers who probably couldn't make our current 2 deep.

He would garner a lot of attention for MSU but once the honeymoon was over I don't know we get better results than we did with Moorhead.

[Desoto1967]

Who else thinks, that with even a possible EB loss, Leach is back in 2023?

[Catfish]

Who else thinks, that with even a possible EB loss, Leach is back in 2023?

He'll be back.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who else thinks, that with even a possible EB loss, Leach is back in 2023?

Leach is back if Leach wants to come back.

[parabrave]

Who else thinks, that with even a possible EB loss, Leach is back in 2023?

Unless he leaves on his own he will be back/ No reason to fire him/

[TUSK]

Exactly. Dion is only in this state because he wanted to prove something at a certain type of school. (HBS)
He won't ever be our coach.

Who you callin' a "certain type"...?

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[Goldendawg]

I read an article on msn.com yesterday about some baggage that Prime has with some charter type HS he helped set up in TX that went under. One of you guys might can link this or explain with more detail.

[bulldawg28]

I read an article on msn.com yesterday about some baggage that Prime has with some charter type HS he helped set up in TX that went under. One of you guys might can link this or explain with more detail.

No strippers, wives, girlfriends, or blackmailing involved. The financial support for the school went under.

[Really Clark?]

The biggest issue with that academy was the lack of educational accreditation and the actual teaching to the students. Multiple players graduated from the academy but couldn't qualify for colleges as the HS courses were not accredited.

[Goldendawg]

The biggest issue with that academy was the lack of educational accreditation and the actual teaching to the students. Multiple players graduated from the academy but couldn't qualify for colleges as the HS courses were not accredited.

I just skimmed the article, but the writer implied it was a big negative for Prime based on his involvement. Probably a moot point regarding his future coaching opportunities.

[Really Clark?]

I just skimmed the article, but the writer implied it was a big negative for Prime based on his involvement. Probably a moot point regarding his future coaching opportunities.

It may be an issue with some schools/presidents. Others probably won't care if he can give a good explanation

[TUSK]

The biggest issue with that academy was the lack of educational accreditation and the actual teaching to the students.

So, it was a "charter school/academy" with "public school" type standards?

[Bubb Rubb]

1. His strength would be recruiting and working the NIL game. This is an area where we are weak.

2. Has coached in Mississippi.

3. Could have a CEO program built around him so we aren't married to a system. Flexibility has always helped us.

4. Would help the MSU brand in general. With Dak and Primetime, a lot of kids would see State as directly affiliated with the NFL (what they care about anyway).

5. The market for coaches is competitive this year, but Sanders is usually no.3 on most people's lists. If we offer first, we could actually get him instead of a retread or an up-and-coming coordinator.

Prime would be a disaster here most likely. Sure, it would be splashy, and it may even help with recruiting, but the guy would have to build a world class staff here and he wouldn't be able to do that. Do you want him to bring his JSU staff here? JSU wins games on talent and they're not very well coached.

[Really Clark?]

Prime would be a disaster here most likely. Sure, it would be splashy, and it may even help with recruiting, but the guy would have to build a world class staff here and he wouldn't be able to do that. Do you want him to bring his JSU staff here? JSU wins games on talent and they're not very well coached.

Not saying to bring his staff or hire Dion but his DC can coach, very good coach. DC for what? 10-15 years in NFL and a really good DB coach.

[memsu06]

I don't care, give me Freeze. He would kill it here with NIL being allowed. That being said, I'd be fine with Primetime. You gotta take chances here. Worst case you move on after 2 seasons and try again.

There's no way in hell we're ever going to get Freeze.

Even if we made him solid offers he's never going to coach at MSU. We ruined his gig at Ole Miss.

[yjnkdawg]

There's no way in hell we're ever going to get Freeze.

Even if we made him solid offers he's never going to coach at MSU. We ruined his gig at Ole Miss.

We aren't going to make him any offer even if he wanted to come here. He would like the OM job again , but don't see that happening either.

[bulldawg28]

Prime would be a disaster here most likely. Sure, it would be splashy, and it may even help with recruiting, but the guy would have to build a world class staff here and he wouldn't be able to do that. Do you want him to bring his JSU staff here? JSU wins games on talent and they're not very well coached.

His current staff has more NFL coaching/playing experience than our staff.

[Fader21]

I heard a stat this morning. No coach in the history of Egg Bowl Rivalry has a coached been retained after losing 3 straight Egg Bowls.
If Leach loses this one I'm off of the Wagon.

My top choices for replacement is

1. Freeze (pipe dream)
2. Deion
then a long look at the following

Kane Wommack -USA
Phil Longo
Clarke Lea

[basedog]

His current staff has more NFL coaching/playing experience than our staff.

Most don’t have a clue about his staff. Coaching is coaching at every level. Some good, some average, some bad. We’ve had all 3 at different years.

[parabrave]

I read an article on msn.com yesterday about some baggage that Prime has with some charter type HS he helped set up in TX that went under. One of you guys might can link this or explain with more detail.

He started an IMG type of school in Fr Worth about ten years ago. Had multitude of financial and academic problems. Deion didn't run it but the people he hired to run were the main problem.

[Lord McBuckethead]

There is no situation where Freeze is the coach of Mississippi State University, it will never happen.

[ScooterDog]

If and when Leach retires I believe MSU will maintain tradition and come up with somebody you never expected. Hasn't it been working that way? Any way, I would go for the Kansas St. head coach. His track record is very good. Which means, they would never ever have him. LOL.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Kansas State to Miss State is a lateral or downward move.

Prime time had to reach a legal settlement 6 figures for allegedly strangling/choking 3 prime academy employees, this is in addition to alleged academic and financial irregularities. He probably will never pass FBS vetting. Recent Wash Post article details this along with another report by a Baltimore journalist.

After Leach leaves, Prime is my number one hope for Miss State. Will be entertaining.

[Coach34]

PrimeTime, Me, and Bucky here on the board all have the same chance of being State's next HC. I'll leave you all to guess that percentage

[lastmajordog]

I heard all the same great recruiting bs about Croom becoming coach. I’ll rest my case.

[bigplayslay]

Wait are people on this site actually serious about hiring prime?

[Bothrops]

I think Primetime may get the USF job. It will be a solid challenge, but he will get some players and bring the hype.

[Bothrops]

Who else thinks, that with even a possible EB loss, Leach is back in 2023?

I definitely think he's back, regardless of the EB.

[CaptainObvious]

I definitely think he's back, regardless of the EB.
So, essentially, the Egg Bowl is a meaningless game to State?s leaders now? Let?s just get rid of the Trophy then, since it means nothing to State.

[Anonymous]

What if I told you there is a coach available who has never won fewer than 6 games, has won 8+ nine of his 11 years, has coached a national championship game, and would 100% take the job.

[Goldendawg]

I definitely think he's back, regardless of the EB.

If we lose the EGG, 7-5 with 4-0 OOC, 3-5 in the SEC, 3 straight losses to OM, and a non-competitive "O" against SEC teams with a pulse on "D". Not to mention a disappearing act "O" for a quarter or two in most all games. A dud of a year and no momentum for 2023.

[vindastra]

What if I told you there is a coach available who has never won fewer than 6 games, has won 8+ nine of his 11 years, has coached a national championship game, and would 100% take the job.

Did this coach perchance do all this with a roster full of 5*s?

[Anonymous]

Did this coach perchance do all this with a roster full of 5*s?

The team that made the national championship had two 5* players, 3 of the 11 seasons were at G5 and all 3 of those ended with 8+ wins.

[Bothrops]

So, essentially, the Egg Bowl is a meaningless game to State?s leaders now? Let?s just get rid of the Trophy then, since it means nothing to State.

Why is it meaningless? We don't even have an AD. We aren't firing a 7-5 coach with our NIL situation in it's infancy, and behind everyone else's.

[Todd4State]

So, essentially, the Egg Bowl is a meaningless game to State?s leaders now? Let?s just get rid of the Trophy then, since it means nothing to State.

I think most of us are in the if Leach loses this year he is on the hot seat next year and basically has to win the Egg Bowl in 2023.

Agree or not- I'm giving him a pass for 2020. 2021 and this year is completely on Leach though.

The truth is if you are the football coach at Mississippi State you have to win the Egg Bowl some- probably at least 50% of the time or slightly more going off of Jackie and Dan.

[Todd4State]

The team that made the national championship had two 5* players, 3 of the 11 seasons were at G5 and all 3 of those ended with 8+ wins.

And who would this be?

[Anonymous]

And who would this be?

Gus Malzahn. Meshes well with our traditional strengths too. Gritty up front with a power run game and utilizing your QB?s strengths. He?s proven he?s a better coach than Freeze, Kiffin, Rhule, etc but everyone writes him off because things got stagnant down the stretch at AU when he started letting his OC?s control the offense.

[CoachT14]

Wait are people on this site actually serious about hiring prime?

Unfortunately, I think they are.

[Saltydog]

I heard all the same great recruiting bs about Croom becoming coach. I?ll rest my case.

PT would generate FAR more publicity than Croom ever thought about and re-energize the fan base. Heck, he's recruiting 5 stars to JSU. Think what he could do here.

[Saltydog]

Not "no" but HELL NO to Gus Malzahn.......No thanks President Keenum.........

[Pancho]

better get barstool to come with him then......

[CoachT14]

Not "no" but HELL NO to Gus Malzahn.......No thanks President Keenum.........

Care to explain?

[DownwardDawg]

PrimeTime, Me, and Bucky here on the board all have the same chance of being State's next HC. I'll leave you all to guess that percentage

Yep. No way an SEC AD is taking a chance on Prime until he proves something. We can end the discussion because it ain't happening.

[DownwardDawg]

Gus Malzahn. Meshes well with our traditional strengths too. Gritty up front with a power run game and utilizing your QB?s strengths. He?s proven he?s a better coach than Freeze, Kiffin, Rhule, etc but everyone writes him off because things got stagnant down the stretch at AU when he started letting his OC?s control the offense.

Yep. He's an upgrade from Mullen. Similar offense but Gus utilizes power RB's along with his dual threat QB's. And Gus is 10x the play caller Mullen ever was.
I've been saying for a while we could do a lot worse than Gus. Not sure he's my first choice but I would be perfectly fine with him.

[TrapGame]

Yep. He's an upgrade from Mullen. Similar offense but Gus utilizes power RB's along with his dual threat QB's. And Gus is 10x the play caller Mullen ever was.
I've been saying for a while we could do a lot worse than Gus. Not sure he's my first choice but I would be perfectly fine with him.

Gus is the safe, respectable hire. If it's true that Leach is retiring then we should have already reached out to him. Maybe him blowing that game last Saturday was b/c he has already checked out on UCF.

[parabrave]

Yep. No way an SEC AD is taking a chance on Prime until he proves something. We can end the discussion because it ain't happening.

Next stop for Deion is some USM type school in FLA, FIU or FAU for example.