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duncflydawg
11-23-2022, 11:40 PM
This reeks of a desperation attempt to get coaches and players mind back on the Egg Bowl. I still think Lane to Auburn is happening.

yjnkdawg
11-23-2022, 11:42 PM
I like Leach a lot but I agree, we need to modernize.

I like him too, but I just meant if he retired. Too many what ifs too keep up with. He's retiring , He's not retiring. He's going to get fired (not happening).

yjnkdawg
11-23-2022, 11:42 PM
This reeks of a desperation attempt to get coaches and players mind back on the Egg Bowl. I still think Lane to Auburn is happening.

Same thinking here.

PikeDawg15
11-23-2022, 11:45 PM
This smells like Jimmy Sexton trying to get more money out of Auburn.

Bothrops
11-23-2022, 11:45 PM
Lane is not leaving Ole Miss for Auburn as I have said for awhile now. He will leave them but only for a true blue blood. In some ways I think people give Lane too much credit. Lane is 0-3 against Bama, 1-2 against Pittman, 1-2 against LSU, 1-2 against Auburn, 0-1 against Aranda and Baylor who is a better coach than Lane (wins with less talent). He got a good record by playing Vandy 3 times, UK twice, a Will Muschamp SC team and missed aTm in 2020 due to COVID. I do think he is a solid coach but not as elite as he is portrayed. That being said I think we lose tomorrow, but we have our own problems

Auburn is still a blue blood. They've played for 2 natty's since 2010 and got one of them. They also could have won it in 03 or 04? Theyre willing to do anything to win, just like Bama.

Baylor has been doing more with less for years.

Commercecomet24
11-23-2022, 11:53 PM
I like him too, but I just meant if he retired. Too many what ifs too keep up with. He's retiring , He's not retiring. He's going to get fired (not happening).

Yep I agree with you on all and this week has been a circus all the way around

Todd4State
11-24-2022, 12:06 AM
This smells like Jimmy Sexton trying to get more money out of Auburn.

This smells like Ole Miss trying to keep players from opting out of the Egg Bowl.

Todd4State
11-24-2022, 12:07 AM
Switching back to our side, I would rather have a HC that runs the air raid but the modern version.


I like Leach a lot but I agree, we need to modernize.

I think if Will would push the ball down the field more it would become a lot more modern very quickly.

Commercecomet24
11-24-2022, 12:08 AM
I think if Will would push the ball down the field more it would become a lot more modern very quickly.

No doubt about it.

yjnkdawg
11-24-2022, 12:12 AM
This smells like Jimmy Sexton trying to get more money out of Auburn.

Could be but Sexton has gotten Kiffin an over $9 million +year contract offer from OM supposedly and if Freeze was hired by Auburn then he could negotiate Freeze's contract. I think OM knows it ain't over until he actually signs that contract if he does.

Commercecomet24
11-24-2022, 12:20 AM
Could be but Sexton has gotten Kiffin an over $9 million +year contract offer from OM supposedly and if Freeze was hired by Auburn then he could negotiate Freeze's contract. I think OM knows it ain't over until he actually signs that contract if he does.

Yeah until the inks dry anything can happen just ask Tennessee about Danny boy lol

Anonymous
11-24-2022, 12:22 AM
Reminder that if OM offers equal money, it?s still half of Auburn?s offer. $10m per year is irrelevant when one contract is twice as long as the other. It isn?t 10 mil vs 10 mil, it?s 40 vs 80.

yjnkdawg
11-24-2022, 12:31 AM
Reminder that if OM offers equal money, it?s still half of Auburn?s offer. $10m per year is irrelevant when one contract is twice as long as the other. It isn?t 10 mil vs 10 mil, it?s 40 vs 80.

I agree if money is the deciding factor on whether he leaves or stays.

Todd4State
11-24-2022, 12:55 AM
Could be but Sexton has gotten Kiffin an over $9 million +year contract offer from OM supposedly and if Freeze was hired by Auburn then he could negotiate Freeze's contract. I think OM knows it ain't over until he actually signs that contract if he does.

Auburn will come back with 10M over 7 or 8 probably.

This is probably about to get past Ole Miss's comfort level.

TNDawg35
11-24-2022, 02:39 AM
So now a report comes out from On3 , from SPIRIT BEN AND BARSTOOL MINTZY, of all people I know… That Kiffen told players he is “LIKELY” staying unless something drastic happens…

What the hell kind of game are they playing up there? I mean it’s really simple, your either leaving or you aren’t. Why are they acting like they are all of a sudden flipping him back…

We all know how this plays out. If he was staying, he would have already signed the extension. I reckon he is trying to save face before the egg to get OM to play half ass worth a damn…

This shit is crazy…

Pancho
11-24-2022, 07:11 AM
par for the course for a narcissist

duncflydawg
11-24-2022, 10:03 AM
Without a signed extension to put this to bed, I have a hard time believing he is planning on staying.

msstate7
11-24-2022, 10:05 AM
Without a signed extension to put this to bed, I have a hard time believing he is planning on staying.

If you have 2 teams fighting over you, it only makes sense to wait to see where the money reaches.

Quaoarsking
11-24-2022, 10:12 AM
While it's impossible to say anything for sure, I feel like all signs still point to him going to Auburn.

Catfish
11-24-2022, 10:17 AM
Lane can stop this anytime.

msudawg1200
11-24-2022, 10:20 AM
Lane can stop this anytime.
I want it to keep going to kickoff and after.

DownwardDawg
11-24-2022, 10:36 AM
If he doesn't announce that he's staying before kickoff tonight, he's gone.
He could very well stay and make that announcement this afternoon. Then Auburn will hire Freeze. The winner in all this?? Sexton.

DownwardDawg
11-24-2022, 10:37 AM
Meanwhile, I hope ole miss got to enjoy this week as we did many times when Mullen was our coach.

PGHBulldogBG
11-24-2022, 10:37 AM
If Lane stays, Ole Miss is going to have this drama every year if they win at least 8 games and get ranked

Catfish
11-24-2022, 11:00 AM
If Lane stays, Ole Miss is going to have this drama every year if they win at least 8 games and get ranked

It's gonna be tough for ole Lane to get 8 wins next year.

TrapGame
11-24-2022, 11:23 AM
That talk to the team Tuesday was a complete disaster. Weds practice must have been god awful. There is some push back to what he told the team yesterday. Some people are saying he never told them point blank he was absolutely staying. Then instead of signing the extension right then in front of his team, he said he'd sign it today before the game.

There are Auburn folks still saying it's Kiffin.

chef dixon
11-24-2022, 11:30 AM
This little report last night was nothing more than dying things down until the game is over

msstate7
11-24-2022, 11:56 AM
That talk to the team Tuesday was a complete disaster. Weds practice must have been god awful. There is some push back to what he told the team yesterday. Some people are saying he never told them point blank he was absolutely staying. Then instead of signing the extension right then in front of his team, he said he'd sign it today before the game.

There are Auburn folks still saying it's Kiffin.

Who did us the solid of releasing this so early? If it's Cohen, thanks John

Schultzy
11-24-2022, 12:28 PM
Freshwater did a good job at OM but he also caught the perfect storm of an awesome QB one year and a super soft schedule the next.

I could see him doing very average at Auburn.

Catfish
11-24-2022, 12:37 PM
Freshwater did a good job at OM but he also caught the perfect storm of an awesome QB one year and a super soft schedule the next.

I could see him doing very average at Auburn.

Bingo!!!

DownwardDawg
11-24-2022, 12:46 PM
Freshwater did a good job at OM but he also caught the perfect storm of an awesome QB one year and a super soft schedule the next.

I could see him doing very average at Auburn.

Agree.

Maroonthirteen
11-24-2022, 12:56 PM
That talk to the team Tuesday was a complete disaster. Weds practice must have been god awful. There is some push back to what he told the team yesterday. Some people are saying he never told them point blank he was absolutely staying. Then instead of signing the extension right then in front of his team, he said he'd sign it today before the game.

There are Auburn folks still saying it's Kiffin.

Just heard from a rank and file Rebel, who probably heard from a rank and file Rebel, so for whatever it is worth .....

anyways.... Carter isn't happy today that Kiffin didn't sign last night. Supposedly Carter is putting the pressure on today as I type.

My .02, Very telling he won't sign.

TrapGame
11-24-2022, 12:57 PM
Let's get this straight.

Kiffin said he is "likely to stay". He never said "I'm staying! **** those Leg Humpers! Now give me that extension to sign, now!" And this is what some in their fan base want you to believe is what happened. This was just as worthless as his Tuesday talk to the team.

msstate7
11-24-2022, 01:00 PM
Freshwater did a good job at OM but he also caught the perfect storm of an awesome QB one year and a super soft schedule the next.

I could see him doing very average at Auburn.

He also did well at FAU. He's 14-9 (.609) in sec games at OM. Mullen's winning % at state overall was .600. Yeah, kiffin is winning sec games as a higher clip than mullen won overall here... that's impressive. Kiffin is outstanding, and I don't want him at OM

Commercecomet24
11-24-2022, 01:15 PM
Freshwater did a good job at OM but he also caught the perfect storm of an awesome QB one year and a super soft schedule the next.

I could see him doing very average at Auburn.

Good assessment. And I think he's a good coach but he's certainly not elite

confucius say
11-24-2022, 01:32 PM
He also did well at FAU. He's 14-9 (.609) in sec games at OM. Mullen's winning % at state overall was .600. Yeah, kiffin is winning sec games as a higher clip than mullen won overall here... that's impressive. Kiffin is outstanding, and I don't want him at OM

14-10 right?

But regardless, yea he's good. I could argue how good considering he's gotten vandy every year and avoided uga, so probably worth at least 1-2 games over that stretch. But I can't argue he's not done a good job.

DownwardDawg
11-24-2022, 01:40 PM
He also did well at FAU. He's 14-9 (.609) in sec games at OM. Mullen's winning % at state overall was .600. Yeah, kiffin is winning sec games as a higher clip than mullen won overall here... that's impressive. Kiffin is outstanding, and I don't want him at OM

I think he's good, but I'm not sold that he's great. I know you're a stats guy, which is why you were off on Jimbo so bad. Stats said Jimbo was great.......until they didn't anymore. He's a terrible HC and might be completely unemployed in a year or 2. Kiffin has been great at ole miss but there were contributing factors as has been pointed out. I didn't follow him at FAU but I'm sure he got a bump in recruiting due to his name alone and the fact that he was endorsed by Saban. Time will tell though. He's certainly done well at ole miss and I won't miss him.

Todd4State
11-24-2022, 02:10 PM
Freshwater did a good job at OM but he also caught the perfect storm of an awesome QB one year and a super soft schedule the next.

I could see him doing very average at Auburn.

There are so many factors that go into a good coaching situation. He followed a coach who guided them through probation. And he had the talent to make it work and a favorable schedule.

Similar to Dan replacing Croom.

LC Dawg
11-24-2022, 02:14 PM
What Kiffin allegedly said to the team last night was far less definitive than Tuberville's pine box statement and we know how that ended up.
It's obvious that Kiffin is immature from various actions and I think he is just enjoying people fighting over him.
I'm beginning to think he really hasn't decided and he thinks this is all fun and wants to keep it going as long as he can.
And even if he stays at Ole Miss they know this will take place at the end of every year forward.

Todd4State
11-24-2022, 02:17 PM
What Kiffin allegedly said to the team last night was far less definitive than Tuberville's pine box statement and we know how that ended up.
It's obvious that Kiffin is immature from various actions and I think he is just enjoying people fighting over him.
I'm beginning to think he really hasn't decided and he thinks this is all fun and wants to keep it going as long as he can.
And even if he stays at Ole Miss they know this will take place at the end of every year forward.

Unless they decide to leave him on a Tarmac first.

Commercecomet24
11-24-2022, 02:47 PM
Unless they decide to leave him on a Tarmac first.

Excellent!

CadaverDawg
11-24-2022, 02:55 PM
Kiffin told the players last night that he was "staying and will coach here next year. But if something changes you'll be the first to know, you won't find out from social media", basically.

So he has the team believing he is staying as of today. I know that for absolute fact.

Is that just as a courtesy to Ole Miss and to keep his team focused? Maybe. But what an awful look it would be now for him to announce he's leaving Friday. However, he definitely left himself a bit of an "out" if needed.

Personally, I still don't think he's leaving. I think we lose handily, he announces he's staying with a monster contract and now a buffed up NIL, their fans feel like they're super bowl champs, and Leach stays as well....and we come out with a typical MSU 0-fer on the weekend, and can focus on hoops. But I've been told I can be a bit pessimistic.

DownwardDawg
11-24-2022, 03:02 PM
Kiffin told the players last night that he was "staying and will coach here next year. But if something changes you'll be the first to know, you won't find out from social media", basically.

So he has the team believing he is staying as of today. I know that for absolute fact.

Is that just as a courtesy to Ole Miss and to keep his team focused? Maybe. But what an awful look it would be now for him to announce he's leaving Friday. However, he definitely left himself a bit of an "out" if needed.

Personally, I still don't think he's leaving. I think we lose handily, he announces he's staying with a monster contract and now a buffed up NIL, their fans feel like they're super bowl champs, and Leach stays as well....and we come out with a typical MSU 0-fer on the weekend, and can focus on hoops. But I've been told I can be a bit pessimistic.

Damn. I'm going to take a nap now. You crushed my soul. Reality realized.....

CadaverDawg
11-24-2022, 03:10 PM
Damn. I'm going to take a nap now. You crushed my soul. Reality realized.....

Sorry bro. I have been wrong before (at least once I'm sure, lol)

Jarius
11-24-2022, 03:49 PM
Lane Kiffin is going to be coaching at Auburn next year. It really isn’t very hard to see what’s going on here.

basedog
11-24-2022, 04:23 PM
Lane Kiffin is going to be coaching at Auburn next year. It really isn’t very hard to see what’s going on here.

Yep!

662dawg
11-24-2022, 04:25 PM
This little report last night was nothing more than dying things down until the game is over


Lane Kiffin is going to be coaching at Auburn next year. It really isn’t very hard to see what’s going on here.

This is going to upset the negative Nellies & Bear lovers on here.

Thick
11-24-2022, 04:53 PM
Regardless, the damage is done! There?s doubt in everyone?s minds from players, fans, administration, and boosters moving forward. If he stays, they know they will be doing this every year, and we know what that does to a fan base and recruiting. Sexton will be shopping his ass season to season, and he knows that he?s got OM by the short hairs!

was21
11-24-2022, 05:06 PM
You got it

Commercecomet24
11-24-2022, 05:13 PM
Regardless, the damage is done! There?s doubt in everyone?s minds from players, fans, administration, and boosters moving forward. If he stays, they know they will be doing this every year, and we know what that does to a fan base and recruiting. Sexton will be shopping his ass season to season, and he knows that he?s got OM by the short hairs!

This! Nailed it!

CadaverDawg
11-24-2022, 06:07 PM
This is going to upset the negative Nellies & Bear lovers on here.

I'm a negative Nellie I guess, but if you think it will upset me to see him leave, you're crazy. I'm hoping like hell he leaves. There's a reason Auburn wants him and only him, and a reason that Bama doesn't want him at Auburn. Same reason I don't want him at OM. He's damn good

Commercecomet24
11-24-2022, 06:15 PM
I'm a negative Nellie I guess, but if you think it will upset me to see him leave, you're crazy. I'm hoping like hell he leaves. There's a reason Auburn wants him and only him, and a reason that Bama doesn't want him at Auburn. Same reason I don't want him at OM. He's damn good

Yeah you're one of the worst posters on here********

Happy Thanksgiving, brother!

TrapGame
11-24-2022, 06:29 PM
Has Lane signed that extension yet?

WSOPdawg
11-24-2022, 06:34 PM
Has Lane signed that extension yet?

Hypothetically speaking, if Lane held up his signed extension in the locker room (about now), that would be the ultimate "Lombardi, fire the team up" speech. Now, is that going to happen? I think he's heading to Auburn, but who knows.

msstate7
11-24-2022, 06:35 PM
Line jumped a full point to OM, -2.5

DEDawg
11-24-2022, 06:47 PM
Line jumped a full point to OM, -2.5

Might be weather related

Quaoarsking
11-24-2022, 06:53 PM
Has Lane signed that extension yet?

The fact that they haven't announced that he has suggests pretty strongly that he's leaving.

DEDawg
11-24-2022, 11:01 PM
Now the real fun begins

Mjoelner34
11-24-2022, 11:30 PM
Well, my prediction was wrong. I initially thought he was gone but Monday I started thinking it was going to be a 'win the press conference', flip your coach type of deal today with all the cameras rolling for the game tonight.

Saltydog
11-24-2022, 11:44 PM
IF Lane has an Auburn offer in hand, he better damn sure take it. Losing 4 of your last 5 games isn't a good look and his stock has got to be dropping. He'd better take the money and RUN.

DEDawg
11-24-2022, 11:56 PM
IF Lane has an Auburn offer in hand, he better damn sure take it. Losing 4 of your last 5 games isn't a good look and his stock has got to be dropping. He'd better take the money and RUN.

I agree. He will never be hotter than he is right now.

basedog
11-25-2022, 12:12 AM
IF Lane has an Auburn offer in hand, he better damn sure take it. Losing 4 of your last 5 games isn't a good look and his stock has got to be dropping. He'd better take the money and RUN.

Yes!

thf24
11-25-2022, 12:23 AM
IF Lane has an Auburn offer in hand, he better damn sure take it. Losing 4 of your last 5 games isn't a good look and his stock has got to be dropping. He'd better take the money and RUN.

A little less than three seasons is when his deceptively poor recruiting and evaluation really started catching up to him at USCw, and despite the benefit of the transfer portal things appear to be playing out for him the same way at OM. Even with the mercenaries, cracks not seen the first two seasons are evident in his team this year. He had indeed better get out now, because if he is in fact following the same pattern he's squarely on the down slope.

Goldendawg
11-25-2022, 12:25 AM
Listened to the OM post game show and his interview as we went to get gas, (Couldn't pick up State's). Interviewer closed by trying to say something positive, "On to a bowl game and a win". Lane, "Well, I guess".

yjnkdawg
11-25-2022, 12:53 AM
IF Lane has an Auburn offer in hand, he better damn sure take it. Losing 4 of your last 5 games isn't a good look and his stock has got to be dropping. He'd better take the money and RUN.

LOL Some of the OM people want him gone now. He's made this leaving or not leaving into a social media joke and some don't like that at all.

Commercecomet24
11-25-2022, 01:50 AM
LOL Some of the OM people want him gone now. He's made this leaving or not leaving into a social media joke and some don't like that at all.

The om faithful are not happy with the lane train right now and not finding any of his crap amusing.

dawgday166
11-25-2022, 01:52 AM
LOL Some of the OM people want him gone now. He's made this leaving or not leaving into a social media joke and some don't like that at all.

So you're saying they're like ... some of our fans LOL ****

yjnkdawg
11-25-2022, 02:10 AM
So you're saying they're like ... some of our fans LOL ****

Could be lol

parabrave
11-25-2022, 02:17 AM
Listened to the OM post game show and his interview as we went to get gas, (Couldn't pick up State's). Interviewer closed by trying to say something positive, "On to a bowl game and a win". Lane, "Well, I guess".

Yeah I heard that also. It was like I don't give a fuc.

yjnkdawg
11-25-2022, 02:17 AM
The om faithful are not happy with the lane train right now and not finding any of his crap amusing.

I think the tootin horn on the lane train isn't working now and it had to call out for help due to an Egg Bowl track derailment. Maybe they ran out of ink on the OM campus too (can't sign a contract without ink ) :)

parabrave
11-25-2022, 02:19 AM
Lane Train is going to die on the Transfer portal. No matter what anyone says you can't build a consistent winner by the Transfer Portal.

yjnkdawg
11-25-2022, 02:34 AM
Lane Train is going to die on the Transfer portal. No matter what anyone says you can't build a consistent winner by the Transfer Portal.

He got really lucky this year in the portal and Judkins was a diamond in the rough he found, and I agree with what you said.

Commercecomet24
11-25-2022, 02:37 AM
Lane Train is going to die on the Transfer portal. No matter what anyone says you can't build a consistent winner by the Transfer Portal.

100% agree. Mercenaries will always be hit and miss.

parabrave
11-25-2022, 02:40 AM
He got really lucky this year in the portal and Judkins was a diamond in the rough he found, and I agree with what you said.

A former player told me tonight Jackie shot himself in the foot with the JCs and Lane has no foundation at all at OM because of the transfer portal/

msu15
11-25-2022, 02:46 AM
A former player told me tonight Jackie shot himself in the foot with the JCs and Lane has no foundation at all at OM because of the transfer portal/

Yep. You use JC/Portal to fill immediate starter needs, you don't build depth or the team around them.

Commercecomet24
11-25-2022, 02:49 AM
Yep. You use JC/Portal to fill immediate starter needs, you don't build depth or the team around them.

Exactly

DEDawg
11-25-2022, 11:20 AM
Lol it is nice to know we are not the only emotional fan base out there https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/nafoom/so-what-does-keith-carter-do-t68654.html?sid=c0c365248601f3892b8ada19e39a07a7

TrapGame
11-25-2022, 12:08 PM
Lol it is nice to know we are not the only emotional fan base out there https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/nafoom/so-what-does-keith-carter-do-t68654.html?sid=c0c365248601f3892b8ada19e39a07a7

Oh, that's delicious.

LC Dawg
11-25-2022, 12:22 PM
Ole Miss's top two transfers former teams are 21-1 and ranked 4th and 6th. Dart and Evans are good but the excitement over them was based on their high school rankings. Ole Miss won the press conference with their transfer portal "success" but it didn't translate into winning more games.

DEDawg
11-25-2022, 01:33 PM
Ole Miss's top two transfers former teams are 21-1 and ranked 4th and 6th. Dart and Evans are good but the excitement over them was based on their high school rankings. Ole Miss won the press conference with their transfer portal "success" but it didn't translate into winning more games.

Ehh i think I softly disagree with this. I believe they lose 2 more games if Ayltmeyer was their QB this year

Pancho
11-25-2022, 01:38 PM
Evans thought the position was his alone but he's a "me me" guy and TCU saw through it.

msu15
11-25-2022, 01:45 PM
Ole Miss's top two transfers former teams are 21-1 and ranked 4th and 6th. Dart and Evans are good but the excitement over them was based on their high school rankings. Ole Miss won the press conference with their transfer portal "success" but it didn't translate into winning more games.

They lose against Kentucky and A&M with Luke as QB.

yjnkdawg
11-25-2022, 01:58 PM
A former player told me tonight Jackie shot himself in the foot with the JCs and Lane has no foundation at all at OM because of the transfer portal/

Kiffin was really lucky on the portal this year, and that he didn't have a proven QB because if he had I wouldn't see Dart coming in to compete. He knew he was "the" QB when he decided to sign with OM.

DEDawg
11-26-2022, 12:29 PM
Looks like Auburn has officially fallen through. I?m kind of shocked he is staying

https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/1596542270144385024?s=20&t=7t4HEG8UVxKs4NkTtZsUoA

TrapGame
11-26-2022, 12:31 PM
Looks like Auburn has officially fallen through. I?m kind of shocked he is staying

https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/1596542270144385024?s=20&t=7t4HEG8UVxKs4NkTtZsUoA

He's so full of shit. He didn't want to make it about him. What a douche.

msstate7
11-26-2022, 12:32 PM
Thank you WCBI for creating a huge distraction, but you look like a complete clown now

DEDawg
11-26-2022, 01:10 PM
Thank you WCBI for creating a huge distraction, but you look like a complete clown now

I honestly believe at the time it was accurate and something changed

BeardoMSU
11-26-2022, 01:22 PM
I honestly believe at the time it was accurate and something changed

His Twitter antics probably cost him the job...

The Federalist Engineer
11-26-2022, 01:29 PM
A former player told me tonight Jackie shot himself in the foot with the JCs and Lane has no foundation at all at OM because of the transfer portal/

The end came because everybody started taking JCs too. For a while Kansas State and MSU were the JC aristocrats.

Oklahoma won the 2000 NC with a huge injection of JCs. The 2000 Heismann runner up and NC winning QB was a JC, Josh Heupel.

When everyone else started dipping in JC, then MSU had to get the infamous Western Arizona bunch and FCS guys like TJ Mawhinney (sp?)

Jackie's biggest error was the allegiance to obsolete offensive strategy and tactics. He wanted to play like old-time Alabama and Tennessee even as young Gun coaches like Bob Stoops were changing the game

Tater
11-26-2022, 01:44 PM
The end came because everybody started taking JCs too. For a while Kansas State and MSU were the JC aristocrats.

Oklahoma won the 2000 NC with a huge injection of JCs. The 2000 Heismann runner up and NC winning QB was a JC, Josh Heupel.

When everyone else started dipping in JC, then MSU had to get the infamous Western Arizona bunch and FCS guys like TJ Mawhinney (sp?)

Jackie's biggest error was the allegiance to obsolete offensive strategy and tactics. He wanted to play like old-time Alabama and Tennessee even as young Gun coaches like Bob Stoops were changing the game

Who was Bob Stoops OC that year they won the natty? Cause Big Game Bob wasn't ever no offensive guru lmao.

DEDawg
11-26-2022, 01:55 PM
Who was Bob Stoops OC that year they won the natty? Cause Big Game Bob wasn't ever no offensive guru lmao.

Mark Mangino pretty sure

The Federalist Engineer
11-26-2022, 01:58 PM
Who was Bob Stoops OC that year they won the natty? Cause Big Game Bob wasn't ever no offensive guru lmao.

Funny you should ask, Mike Leach in 1999. Then he became the TTU coach. Mark Mangino took over for the championship year, was ML's OL coach

Tater
11-26-2022, 02:03 PM
Mark Mangino pretty sure

Yep the guy who just took the reigns over from the previous OC and ran the exact same things because he was an OL coach. And now Heupel himself runs Air Raid variants to this day. Leach's blueprints were there though.

msstate7
11-26-2022, 02:04 PM
Who was Bob Stoops OC that year they won the natty? Cause Big Game Bob wasn't ever no offensive guru lmao.

He was a DC

DEDawg
11-26-2022, 02:06 PM
How does this work? Could we do the same? I thought legally a public university coach could not have longer than 4 years.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1596546180212658176?s=46&t=eMw6hP1BsCKlwDW0wmdpZA

The Federalist Engineer
11-26-2022, 05:14 PM
He was a DC

The quote attributed to Stoops was, "I chose my first OC on the basis of my worst nightmare as a DC"

Really Clark?
11-26-2022, 05:20 PM
How does this work? Could we do the same? I thought legally a public university coach could not have longer than 4 years.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1596546180212658176?s=46&t=eMw6hP1BsCKlwDW0wmdpZA

UM has tried to do this exact same thing in the past and it has been shot down by the state previously. We will see if the state changes its mind and allows this now.

DEDawg
11-26-2022, 05:56 PM
UM has tried to do this exact same thing in the past and it has been shot down by the state previously. We will see if the state changes its mind and allows this now.

Hmm so does that mean Lane hasn?t/can?t even signed his contract until the state reviews it?

LC Dawg
11-26-2022, 07:24 PM
UM has tried to do this exact same thing in the past and it has been shot down by the state previously. We will see if the state changes its mind and allows this now.

This was kind of blown over with the tweet but I don't see how it works. Either he's a state employee or he's not. Are they approaching this as he's not employed by the state university but he's coaching the state university's team and being paid all by private money?

Schultzy
11-26-2022, 09:05 PM
UM has tried to do this exact same thing in the past and it has been shot down by the state previously. We will see if the state changes its mind and allows this now.

I say let them do it and be on the hook for all kinds of $ when they want to fire him like all these other programs.

TheLostDawg
11-26-2022, 09:21 PM
If I were them, I'd certainly go back to him and say it didn't work out. No way I'd extend him 6 plus years after the way they ended the season. They took advantage of an easy season. I can see one year to keep it together with players and recruiting but no way I extend more than 4.