Rumblings and Rumors

[StarkVegasSteve]

Have nothing concrete on it yet, but there are some rumors floating regarding the health of Leach. Some smoke that Thursday could be his last game and he would step down

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If true we need to be talking to Rhule before someone else gets him. Brackey do work!

[Homedawg]

Hahahah. Matt rhule isn't coming here. ZERO chance.

[Maverick91]

This makes sense. He hasnt had a good interview all year. Cannot stop coughing.

[PMDawg]

Hahahah. Matt rhule isn't coming here. ZERO chance.

This

[Leroy Jenkins]

Coach Prime*********

[TNDawg35]

So once again we are planning on getting into a coaching war with OM…

[Leroy Jenkins]

So once again we are planning on getting into a coaching war with OM…

Without an AD.

[Coach34]

Wait- I was told I was just making up shit????

[TrapGame]

So once again we are planning on getting into a coaching war with OM…


Without an AD.

May God have mercy on our souls.

I really hope Keenum and Brackey have been on top of this.

[TNDawg35]

Wait- I was told I was just making up shit????

You spread enough shit, eventually something will be corrrect…

[StarkVegasSteve]

May God have mercy on our souls.

I really hope Keenum and Brackey have been on top of this.

If what C34 said in about October was true then I imagine a contingency plan was already in formation even before Cohen left for the Plains.

[Coach34]

You spread enough shit, eventually something will be corrrect…

Righttttttttttt. I know it’s gonna hurt a slew of you when I end up right aGAIN

[AROB44]

May God have mercy on our souls.

I really hope Keenum and Brackey have been on top of this.

God has already cursed MSU football......He has no mercy on us.

[parabrave]

Ummm anyone notice how Tulane is doing??

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Ummm anyone notice how Tulane is doing??
Willie Fritz daughter is a smoke show. Would definitely help crootin. The only thing he is 62 years old. We need to get away from helping coaches pad their retirement savings

[BeardoMSU]

God has already cursed MSU football......He has no mercy on us.

Correct.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Hahahah. Matt rhule isn't coming here. ZERO chance.
Nebraska has reached out to him. MSU > Nebraska

[parabrave]

Willie Fritz daughter is a smoke show. Would definitely help crootin.

Plus he had contacts with the LA schools esp in the NO area and the River parishes.

[BeardoMSU]

If this is indeed true, we need an AD hire asap, and will need to move on a coach very quickly. The transfer portal season is right around the corner. Must have a hire in place before.

[DownwardDawg]

Gus Bus!!!! **

[Coach34]

I threw out Arnett's name for a reason

[Catfish]

Cadillac Williams ****

[msstate7]

So is leach's health deal serious? He gonna be ok?

[yjnkdawg]

This makes sense. He hasnt had a good interview all year. Cannot stop coughing.

Pneumonia can be hard to get over and if you don't take care of yourself it can "make" you take care of yourself. I'm not saying this is fact concerning CML but just a thought.

[TrapGame]

I threw out Arnett's name for a reason

So, we gonna just promote Arnett and roll with it?

[Homedawg]

Nebraska has reached out to him. MSU > Nebraska

Ok man. Rhule isn't coming here. If you think so you are going to have your feelings hurt.

[DownwardDawg]

So, we gonna just promote Arnett and roll with it?

It might work if he would hire a good OC that runs an offense that fits our recruiting base.

[Pancho]

anyone else here at DWS today?

[BuckyIsAB****]

I threw out Arnett's name for a reason

You are reaching hard here man

[Coach34]

So, we gonna just promote Arnett and roll with it?

It's one option being looked at. Lots of good things about the program- just need to tweek a few things. Just alot of uncertainty right now

[Really Clark?]

anyone else here at DWS today?

I'm here today. Actually feels nice.

Ran into Coach Spurrier Sr, and his wife, still hilarious person but he is really looking his age

[CoachT14]

I threw out Arnett's name for a reason

But why? He’s a decent DC. I think hiring Arnett would be a massive mistake.

[starkvegasdawg]

anyone else here at DWS today?

Section 336.

[Churchill]

Maybe that's why he doesn't seem interested in getting his backup QB any snaps.

[AROB44]

It might work if he would hire a good OC that runs an offense that fits our recruiting base.

This.....

[StarkVegasSteve]

Received 4 or 5 texts during the 1st quarter that the Leach rumors are spreading like wildfire. There may be more than just smoke to that rumor.

[Saltydog]

Will Hall and yes I'm serious........Kid can coach and runs an exciting offense........

[Charlie_Sheen420]

I remember when they were saying the Hump was going to be closed this year and we were gonna play home games in Tupelo....

[RocketDawg]

Coach Prime*********

Cadillac. **

[LC Dawg]

anyone else here at DWS today?

I'm here. Section 19. About as many State fans in our section as Georgia fans last week.

[RocketDawg]

The announcers are terrible. Must be the D team.

It's not just us though - the ones at the Alabama game are awful as well. They never showed a view of the stadium so they may not have any fans there either.

[msstate7]

I don't wanna just promote ZA.

[TrapGame]

I don't wanna just promote ZA.

Me either. Good dude but he ain't ready to be a head man at a SEC program.

[Pancho]

I'm too cold to think rn

[Leroy Jenkins]

I don't wanna just promote ZA.

He has been a DC for about 15 minutes. Does not have the resume for a SEC HC.

[parabrave]

Gus Bus!!!! **

Joe Brady. Will Hall not a bad choice. How about Billy Napier, if Fla loses to Vandy he might be available.

[Pancho]

How much are the Bills paying Brady?

[Leroy Jenkins]

I heard Bracky was looking at Buddy Stephens.

[PikeDawg15]

HC Deion Sanders
OC his OC
DC Zach Arnette


5 stars: A lot

[Apoplectic]

We?d be stupid to pass on Gus if he wants it

[PMDawg]

Righttttttttttt. I know it?s gonna hurt a slew of you when I end up right aGAIN

Lol. Again. Lol

[CadaverDawg]

Will Hall and yes I'm serious........Kid can coach and runs an exciting offense........

We could do worse. USM is improving way more than we are this year. It took him time, but if they win 1 more they're bowling. If you can revive that place you can coach.

[BayouDawg]

Righttttttttttt. I know it’s gonna hurt a slew of you when I end up right aGAIN

Ive heard some rumblings of such too. But you were right. We missed the boat at our chance for a 10 win season. Sec west was as down as it has been in over a decade.

[Saltydog]

I threw out Arnett's name for a reason

Typical State, taking the easy way out. Honestly, this would underwhelm me. Good D coodinator but HC, IDK.

[PMDawg]

Willie Fritz daughter is a smoke show. Would definitely help crootin.

This may be the weirdest and creepiest comment I've ever seen on here. Lol. I hope to high heaven it's as absurd as I think it is.

[Quaoarsking]

So is leach's health deal serious? He gonna be ok?

Yeah, seems like everyone is glossing over the most important question here. I don't think he would consider leaving if it weren't serious.

[Gypsy_RoadDawg]

This makes sense. He hasnt had a good interview all year. Cannot stop coughing.

I've been noticing that cough for some time. It doesn't sound good.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Coach Prime*********

If Burt Stare posts about Prime Time, then you know...it's 100% not happening

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We?d be stupid to pass on Gus if he wants it
Gus just got beat by Navy 😂
UCF was a 16 pt favorite

[The Federalist Engineer]

This may be the weirdest and creepiest comment I've ever seen on here. Lol. I hope to high heaven it's as absurd as I think it is.

This is not even in the top-10 most creepy for 2022. But yes, strange.

[BuckyIsAB****]

c34 has played yall like a fiddle. I have heard rumors but there is nothing concrete at all. This is where the rumors come from

[Commercecomet24]

c34 has played yall like a fiddle. I have heard rumors but there is nothing concrete at all. This is where the rumors come from

I know he's battled pneumonia this year and he may very well retire. That being said the players are expecting him to return, fwiw.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He had pneumonia and missed some days in the hospital. But it is nowhere near concrete. If he does hang it go I can promise you the next HC aint Arnett

[BuckyIsAB****]

It is mainly just wishful thinking for some and gossip by others. If he beats OM and retires I will be more than happy and wish him a happy retirement

[BiscuitEater]

Righttttttttttt. I know it’s gonna hurt a slew of you when I end up right aGAIN

Like you were about our current FB coach (NOT) or our last men's BB coach? (NOT)

Both missed by a mile!

[Cloak]

Like you were about our current FB coach (NOT) or our last men's BB coach? (NOT)

Both missed by a mile!

I really can't remember the last time c34 was right about anything. IYOK is really the only one that is consistently correct

[Matt3467]

I really don't get the level of hate directed at Coach. Right or wrong it seems like some people on this board have it out for the guy. I enjoy his contributions whether right or wrong because I don't believe he pulls things out of thin air.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I really don't get the level of hate directed at Coach. Right or wrong it seems like some people on this board have it out for the guy. I enjoy his contributions whether right or wrong because I don't believe he pulls things out of thin air.
He is hard headed and could change some on this board have just about made it unenjoyable with the hatred of him and our QB. You would think Mike Henig and Woody McCorvey we?re back

[Coach34]

I don’t hate Leach or Rogers. What a terrible post

[99jc]

there is your 17ing savior Robinson so shut the hell up now

[Pancho]

I really can't remember the last time c34 was right about anything. IYOK is really the only one that is consistently correct

But he now works at Auburn, correct?

[BayouDawg]

2 years too late but we have finally started running a jet sweep for tulu. And a pop pass up the seam off a fake handoff.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don?t hate Leach or Rogers. What a terrible post

GTFO. Let me fix it for you. All of the constant negative and baby back whiny posts you would think Henig and McCorvey were back. Keep stirring the pot. If it wasnt about you why did you respond?

[RezDog7]

GTFO. Let me fix it for you. All of the constant negative and baby back whiny posts you would think Henig and McCorvey were back. Keep stirring the pot. If it wasnt about you why did you respond?

Same posters on almost every msu message board. Absolutely ridiculous.

[HaggardDawg]

We?d be stupid to pass on Gus if he wants it

Well, I know he wanted it in 2009

[Coach34]

GTFO. Let me fix it for you. All of the constant negative and baby back whiny posts you would think Henig and McCorvey were back. Keep stirring the pot. If it wasnt about you why did you respond?

Calm down Sweetie. Saying a coach needs to run the ball more and a QB is not good enough to play in the NFL doesnt equate to hate.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Well, I know he wanted it in 2009

Gus lost at home today as a 16 pt favorite.

[parabrave]

Dam Leach sounds like shit.

[msu15]

Well, I know he wanted it in 2009

Really? I didn't know that.

[msu15]

I hope he's ok. I obviously had no idea he had pneumonia, but I knew something was up after the Auburn game. He couldn't string together a sentence without hacking up a lung and his eyes were glazed over. Pneumonia, especially in today's Covid world, is nothing to take lightly for sure.

[Commercecomet24]

I hope he's ok. I obviously had no idea he had pneumonia, but I knew something was up after the Auburn game. He couldn't string together a sentence without hacking up a lung and his eyes were glazed over. Pneumonia, especially in today's Covid world, is nothing to take lightly for sure.

He's been battling it awhile. He hasn't really been able to get over it. The work schedule of a head coach doesn't allow the rest needed to recuperate

[Lord McBuckethead]

Hope not. His cough has been concerning though.

[Leroy Jenkins]

He's been coughing for a few years now. I just assumed he has been on that sticky-icky.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Calm down Sweetie. Saying a coach needs to run the ball more and a QB is not good enough to play in the NFL doesnt equate to hate.

You are totally missing the point and doing it on purpose. You arent half as smart and cool as you think you are sometimes. Sweetie. And for the record we agree on a lot but you have been on one lately

[Lord McBuckethead]

He is hard headed and could change some on this board have just about made it unenjoyable with the hatred of him and our QB. You would think Mike Henig and Woody McCorvey we?re back

I do not hate Leach nor Will. Actually I really like both of them. I have been a fan of Leach since way back when during his TT days. Will is really fun to watch when he isn?t playing scared with the ball. My favorite game of his was the Auburn comeback. Such a fun game to watch him dominate.

Just because I want our backup qbs to get meaningful snaps in a game where I could throw for 200 and win by 21 doesn?t mean I hate Will. I criticize him because he doesn?t have the arm talent to get us to where we are trying to go. This does not mean I hate him by any means. Hell, I want him to succeed. When he does well, my life is more enjoyable.

[Goldendawg]

Section 336.

My son and I were there. Section 4. Gave away 5 of 6 other seats with us to friends. Not exactly a great game day experience.

[Goldendawg]

The announcers are terrible. Must be the D team.

It's not just us though - the ones at the Alabama game are awful as well. They never showed a view of the stadium so they may not have any fans there either.

View of aTm game looked worse than us, but they announced 90k plus. LOL.

[msstatelp1]

I threw out Arnett's name for a reason

If the rumors are true I'd be willing to take a shot at Arnett if we can't get a good P5 coach. He reminds me of a young Dave Aranda.

[BeardoMSU]

View of aTm game looked worse than us, but they announced 90k plus. LOL.

That's embarrassing. Just own it.

[Coach34]

If the rumors are true I'd be willing to take a shot at Arnett if we can't get a good P5 coach. He reminds me of a young Dave Aranda.

We'll see whats what over the next couple of weeks. Who knows. Hope Leach isnt seriously sick

[Quaoarsking]

We'll see whats what over the next couple of weeks. Who knows. Hope Leach isnt seriously sick

I would assume that IF this rumor is true, we'll find out by Friday, right? We would need to get a new coach in place.

[MetEdDawg]

Anyone willing to take Zac Arnett as our head coach right now needs to just stop. If we can't think bigger than that we need to quit playing in the SEC. He's a great DC. But right now he's not an SEC West head coach and we've got to think bigger if we want to start competing.

The SEC West would be Saban, Kiffin, Brian Kelly, Jimbo, whoever Auburn hires (or whoever Ole Miss hires), Pittman, and Arnett.

Folks keep wondering why we don't compete then come on a message board and want to hire a DC with no head coaching experience to compete in the SEC West against legit experienced coaches.

Come on people. Rumors are Ole Miss is willing to get to 10 million for Kiffin. If we aren't thinking somewhere close to that big for whenever our next hire comes around, the we need to legitimately ask ourselves what we are doing here.

[BeardoMSU]

I would assume that IF this rumor is true, we'll find out by Friday, right? We would need to get a new coach in place.

You'd have to with the new transfer rules. It's a must.

[Quaoarsking]

If we need a new coach, there's one out there that would probably exceed the Mullen/Leach Baseline, but it would take a lot of money to pry him away from his current job:

https://i.imgur.com/ukEGloI.png

[BeardoMSU]

Anyone willing to take Zac Arnett as our head coach right now needs to just stop. If we can't think bigger than that we need to quit playing in the SEC. He's a great DC. But right now he's not an SEC West head coach and we've got to think bigger if we want to start competing.

The SEC West would be Saban, Kiffin, Brian Kelly, Jimbo, whoever Auburn hires (or whoever Ole Miss hires), Pittman, and Arnett.

Folks keep wondering why we don't compete then come on a message board and want to hire a DC with no head coaching experience to compete in the SEC West against legit experienced coaches.

Come on people. Rumors are Ole Miss is willing to get to 10 million for Kiffin. If we aren't thinking somewhere close to that big for whenever our next hire comes around, the we need to legitimately ask ourselves what we are doing here.

This. Hopefully we could hang on to him ad DC, tho. That would do a lot for continuity/recruiting, obv.

[msstate7]

If we need a new coach, there's one out there that would probably exceed the Mullen/Leach Baseline, but it would take a lot of money to pry him away from his current job:

https://i.imgur.com/ukEGloI.png

I like gundy. Not sure we big enough to pull him from his school though

[BeardoMSU]

If we need a new coach, there's one out there that would probably exceed the Mullen/Leach Baseline, but it would take a lot of money to pry him away from his current job:

https://i.imgur.com/ukEGloI.png

I'd be down.

[Quaoarsking]

I like gundy. Not sure we big enough to pull him from his school though

All the fans who think the Mullen/Leach Baseline isn't enough are going to have to pay out the $$ to get Gundy or someone on his level to exceed it. Otherwise, we're just hoping for a coach who can average 7-5 and potentially not getting one.

[MetEdDawg]

I like gundy. Not sure we big enough to pull him from his school though

Agreed.

Oklahoma State is his alma mater and he's making 7.5 million this year. I don't see us pulling him or any other legitimate coach unless we are willing to go into the 8+ million range and it's the right situation.

[Cowbell]

I like gundy. Not sure we big enough to pull him from his school though

I like him a lot. But I don't think he would do well in our league. And I have a grad degree from there, so have watched a lot of football in Stillwater - just a different brand of ball.

[TrapGame]

We have a better shot at Rhule than Gundy. And Rhule ain't coming.

Seriously, I could see us hiring Gus Malzhan with Gus be 100% okay keeping Arnett as DC.

[CoachT14]

We have a better shot at Rhule than Gundy. And Rhule ain't coming.

Seriously, I could see us hiring Gus Malzhan with Gus be 100% okay keeping Arnett as DC.

I’ve actually warmed a ton to the idea of the Gus Bus here. He’d hire a much better staff than we’ve ever had and may could tick up recruiting about 5-7 slots which could do wonders.

[PikeDawg15]

I want leach to stay If he can beat ole miss .

What I said about the boosters wanting him out if he loses is true

But I had no idea about any retirement talk.

[msu15]

I’ve actually warmed a ton to the idea of the Gus Bus here. He’d hire a much better staff than we’ve ever had and may could tick up recruiting about 5-7 slots which could do wonders.

I 100% agree. Gus's offense is perfect for our recruiting base.

[Quaoarsking]

I 100% agree. Gus's offense is perfect for our recruiting base.

There's no such thing as a "recruiting base" in the 2020s.

[CoachT14]

You have to think Malzahn would try to prove himself against Auburn and such. Which would be a good thing.

[Homedawg]

There's no such thing as a "recruiting base" in the 2020s.

There absolutely is. We won't win games having to rely on the portal. Can it aid us? You bet. But you better have guys you sign that play and play for years. And those come from a base. At least for us.

[mparkerfd20]

Willie Fritz daughter is a smoke show. Would definitely help crootin. The only thing he is 62 years old. We need to get away from helping coaches pad their retirement savings

I guess she's a smoke show if you like horses.

[Cowbell]

There's no such thing as a "recruiting base" in the 2020s.

You continue to prove that you know little about this game

[msu15]

There's no such thing as a "recruiting base" in the 2020s.

Wrong

[Cowbell]

I want leach to stay If he can beat ole miss .

What I said about the boosters wanting him out if he loses is true

But I had no idea about any retirement talk.

Retirement talk is all rumor from what I can tell. You still 100% sure he gone if he loses?

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I 100% agree. Gus's offense is perfect for our recruiting base.
Mullen > Gus

[Saltydog]

We could do worse. USM is improving way more than we are this year. It took him time, but if they win 1 more they're bowling. If you can revive that place you can coach.

This guy here gets it.......He's from here and has deep ties, players love him and like you said "he can coach" and I think he would recruit better than what we have now.......

[msu15]

Mullen > Gus

Disagree, but it doesn't matter.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This guy here gets it.......He's from here and has deep ties and the players love him.......

If we are hell bent on hiring a Mississippi boy then there is one in Lynchburg, VA who has been pretty successful already in this conference. And you know what, damn the torpedoes. Playing nice has gotten us nowhere. Time to get in the mud.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Anyone mentioning Mike Gundy hasn't been paying attention to his career, the guy ALWAYS chokes in big games...he's currently getting his ass kicked in Bedlam by one of the worst Oklahoma teams in many years. If we want any shot of ever upsetting the Bamas or Georgias...Gundy is not that guy, he'll pull a Mullen and crap his pants on the big stage....

[msu15]

If we are hell bent on hiring a Mississippi boy then there is one in Lynchburg, VA who has been pretty successful already in this conference. And you know what, damn the torpedoes. Playing nice has gotten us nowhere. Time to get in the mud.

I'd sign up for him tomorrow.

[Saltydog]

Anyone willing to take Zac Arnett as our head coach right now needs to just stop. If we can't think bigger than that we need to quit playing in the SEC. He's a great DC. But right now he's not an SEC West head coach and we've got to think bigger if we want to start competing.

The SEC West would be Saban, Kiffin, Brian Kelly, Jimbo, whoever Auburn hires (or whoever Ole Miss hires), Pittman, and Arnett.

Folks keep wondering why we don't compete then come on a message board and want to hire a DC with no head coaching experience to compete in the SEC West against legit experienced coaches.

Come on people. Rumors are Ole Miss is willing to get to 10 million for Kiffin. If we aren't thinking somewhere close to that big for whenever our next hire comes around, the we need to legitimately ask ourselves what we are doing here.

Yep, it would be the most typical Mississippi State thing ever to do that and take the easy way out.

[CoachT14]

Anyone mentioning Mike Gundy hasn't been paying attention to his career, the guy ALWAYS chokes in big games...he's currently getting his ass kicked in Bedlam by one of the worst Oklahoma teams in many years. If we want any shot of ever upsetting the Bamas or Georgias...Gundy is not that guy, he'll pull a Mullen and crap his pants on the big stage....

In his defense, I believe his starting QB is still hurt. Most teams would struggle losing their QB1. See Arkansas.

Now Sanders may be back. Just simply saying.

[CoachT14]

Yep, it would be the most typical Mississippi State thing ever to do that and take the easy way out.

1. Freeze
2A. Dykes
2B. Gus Bus
3. Jamey Chadwell
4a. Garrett Riley
4b. Will Hall
5. God forbid we get here… bring him back. Dan the Man. Lol

[Homedawg]

Mullen > Gus

Agree.

[Dawgface]

What's the deal with Spurrier Jr? Why hasn't he had a chance to become a HC? I'm not suggesting him btw....just curious.

[Cowbell]

Agree.

Where does he coach next?

[lastmajordog]

The announcers are terrible. Must be the D team.

It's not just us though - the ones at the Alabama game are awful as well. They never showed a view of the stadium so they may not have any fans there either.

Until the DOGS get REAL journalism majors in the game it will stay the same.....

[Homedawg]

Where does he coach next?

I don't know if he does tbh. He's got plenty of money. Has a great gig w espn. He does have a huge ego, so he's not taking the job at anywhere U. I won't be shocked if he coaches again. But I do think it would have to be the perfect setting.

[Coach34]

Lame to Auburn

Mullen to Mississippi

Imagine the heads exploding on that

[Apoplectic]

Dykes would be a great fit for us. I?d take him or Gus

[TrapGame]

Dykes would be a great fit for us. I?d take him or Gus

I'd take Dykes in a heartbeat. I wonder why he was never on the radar after Dan? I remember that La Tech game circa 2012. He damn near out coached Mullen. I think we went to OT in that one.

[Cowbell]

Dykes would be a great fit for us. I?d take him or Gus

No HC is leaving a playoff contender to come here

[msu15]

I'd take Dykes in a heartbeat. I wonder why he was never on the radar after Dan? I remember that La Tech game circa 2012. He damn near out coached Mullen. I think we went to OT in that one.

It was 2011(I was there as a student) but yea, not only did Bumphis return a punt for TD in regulation, but they were also driving late in the fourth and Banks picked them off in the endzone. It was also the last time we wore black uniforms until Moorhead 2019 vs Abiliene Christian. First time Mullen got booed at State as we were heading to the locker room at halftime.

[Really Clark?]

I'd take Dykes in a heartbeat. I wonder why he was never on the radar after Dan? I remember that La Tech game circa 2012. He damn near out coached Mullen. I think we went to OT in that one.

Because we remember he wasn't very good at Cal, fired and was just an off the field assistant at TCU in 2017 when we needed to replace Mullen. SMU was his best offer. Seriously doubt he would leave his home state after just 1 very good year at TCU.

[Bothrops]

Leach hasn't looked healthy to me since he's been here. But if he was still battling any pneumonia, he wouldn't be allowed out in this weather, period. I hope he's not seriously ill. I felt like Howland was sick for a while, but who knows.

I also don't want to have to be searching for another coach right now, or anytime in the near future. It sucks for the blue bloods to do it, and it's even worse for us. That said, If this rumor is true, Gus wouldn't be on my shortlist. Retread city. Gundy has been phenomenal at OSU, but is not a fit anywhere else, and wouldn't come anyway. This means promoting Arnett, or hiring an unknown. Both are likely bad moves. The guys I might like to see, just wouldn't come here. We need to get the right AD first.

[Todd4State]

Leach leaving at the same time as Kiffin would not be ideal for us at all. We need some stability- especially after having Moorhead for only two years. Not to mention no AD.

If we hire from within I'd go with Spurrier over Arnett.

If Benko is our new AD I bet we end up with Clay Helton if Leach retires and I think I could be Ok with that.

[ZedFedder]

Leach leaving at the same time as Kiffin would not be ideal for us at all. We need some stability- especially after having Moorhead for only two years. Not to mention no AD.

If we hire from within I'd go with Spurrier over Arnett.

If Benko is our new AD I bet we end up with Clay Helton if Leach retires and I think I could be Ok with that.

Sheeeeeesh. I don’t know about that. Helton always underdelivered with better talent in a worse league.

[BeardoMSU]

Leach leaving at the same time as Kiffin would not be ideal for us at all. We need some stability- especially after having Moorhead for only two years. Not to mention no AD.

If we hire from within I'd go with Spurrier over Arnett.

If Benko is our new AD I bet we end up with Clay Helton if Leach retires and I think I could be Ok with that.

Not sure if there is another SEC team other than Vandy that would promote their WR coach to HC...that would be baffling and depressing (not to mention crippling).

We're in the SEC. We're not the Little Sisters of the Poor. We can get a decent coach. It's just all about fit, and there is definitely a bit of luck in that.

I'm also not worried about competing with OM on hiring a coach.

[Todd4State]

Not sure if there is another SEC team other than Vandy that would promote their WR coach to HC...that would be baffling and depressing (not to mention crippling).

We're in the SEC. We're not the Little Sisters of the Poor. We can get a decent coach. It's just all about fit, and there is definitely a bit of luck in that.

I'm also not worried about competing with OM on hiring a coach.

I agree. I hope we don't have to look for a coach though. I've been on the give Leach 2023 train for a long time.

Coaching changes lead to making adjustments for players and that isn't always a good thing. Especially when a team returns a lot. See Joe Moorhead.

[Todd4State]

Sheeeeeesh. I don’t know about that. Helton always underdelivered with better talent in a worse league.

He certainly has no worse or a resume than Dykes.

He has a much better resume than Arnett or Spurrier.

I think he could be a good fit for our program. Has USC ties and could potentially set up our recruiting and modernize it. His OC came from Western Kentucky so he is familiar with the Air Raid which should in theory help with transition.

[BayouDawg]

What about sunny Cumbie? I havent kept up with what hes done at LA tech this year

[Reunion Dog]

If Leach retires or is fired if he loses Egg Bowl i would be on a plane to Ft Worth and get Dykes whatever he wants. SEC over BIG 12 any day. And I hope TCU wins it all. Fun to watch? they play hard and are disciplined. Plus he has a pipeline in Texas like Leach. If you can win at SMU & TCU?. That?s good enough for me.

[sandjunky]

Not sure if there is another SEC team other than Vandy that would promote their WR coach to HC...that would be baffling and depressing (not to mention crippling).

We're in the SEC. We're not the Little Sisters of the Poor. We can get a decent coach. It's just all about fit, and there is definitely a bit of luck in that.

I'm also not worried about competing with OM on hiring a coach.

Worked out for Clemson

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If Leach retires or is fired if he loses Egg Bowl i would be on a plane to Ft Worth and get Dykes whatever he wants. SEC over BIG 12 any day. And I hope TCU wins it all. Fun to watch? they play hard and are disciplined. Plus he has a pipeline in Texas like Leach. If you can win at SMU & TCU?. That?s good enough for me.

Hmmm... TCU has lot more money than you'd think. Maybe Dikes wants to go to he SEC, but I highly doubt we'd offer more than TCU is willing to match. And we are one of the harder places to win at in the SEC. If Dikes wants to join the SEC, he's be smart to wait on Jimbo to be fired and take that job.

[Really Clark?]

Sonny Dykes is making $6 MIL a year at TCU and about has his team in the playoffs...anyone thinks he sees State as a better path to success and wealth needs really reevaluate their thoughts of where we are as program. We cannot pull him from TCU

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Sonny Dykes is making $6 MIL a year at TCU and about has his team in the playoffs...anyone thinks he sees State as a better path to success and wealth needs really reevaluate their thoughts of where we are as program. We cannot pull him from TCU

Much better said than my comment. Some people need to re-evaluate what we are: We can offer $6M a year, cannot offer elite level assistant pay, have never been able to recruit in the top 25 consistently, are way behind in NIL, and play a tough schedule. Are we a bad place to coach? No. But are we a top 20 place to coach? Definitely not.

We had a coach leave us for Florida. We had Napier pass on us, stay at a low paying G5 another year and then go to Florida. 3 of our last 4 HC hires were OCs/had no HC experience. SC and Arkansas had to hire unproven guys. Tennessee had about 15 guys pass on them before they hired a G5 coach. It takes a LOT to get an established proven HC to leave for a mid level SEC program.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Much better said than my comment. Some people need to re-evaluate what we are: We can offer $6M a year, cannot offer elite level assistant pay, have never been able to recruit in the top 25 consistently, are way behind in NIL, and play a tough schedule. Are we a bad place to coach? No. But are we a top 20 place to coach? Definitely not.

We had a coach leave us for Florida. We had Napier pass on us, stay at a low paying G5 another year and then go to Florida. 3 of our last 4 HC hires were OCs/had no HC experience. SC and Arkansas had to hire unproven guys. Tennessee had about 15 guys pass on them before they hired a G5 coach. It takes a LOT to get an established proven HC to leave for a mid level SEC program.
Hey John, hows Nelle liking Opelika?

[Saltydog]

Let's just bring Hud back. I mean, he's really tearing it up at Gulf Shores HS**

Plus, Tyla ain't bad on the eyes.

[ImissCityBagel]

Primetime. He he's got the personality and respect to recruit, and he knows how to work the NIL. He has experience in Mississippi. I'd rather gamble on him than Gus or Freeze.

Please no Gus.

[DawgFromOxford]

Primetime. He he's got the personality and respect to recruit, and he knows how to work the NIL. He has experience in Mississippi. I'd rather gamble on him than Gus or Freeze.

Please no Gus.

I would take Primetime in a heartbeat. Would It work? Possibly. Would it go up in flames? Possibly. Sounds like the same outcome of hiring any other coach. But it would bring some notoriety we haven?t had since 2014 with Dak

[vindastra]

If Freeze can coach, so can Hud ***

[TrapGame]

I would take Primetime in a heartbeat. Would It work? Possibly. Would it go up in flames? Possibly. Sounds like the same outcome of hiring any other coach. But it would bring some notoriety we haven?t had since 2014 with Dak

The way Prime has used his charm and NIL to get recruits that normally wouldn't put JSU on their offer list, let alone actual go there, is very impressive. I'd be willing to roll the dice on Prime.

[CoachT14]

Primetime. He he's got the personality and respect to recruit, and he knows how to work the NIL. He has experience in Mississippi. I'd rather gamble on him than Gus or Freeze.

Please no Gus.

How are Freeze and Gus gambles? They’ve actually won and been successful in the SEC

[ImissCityBagel]

How are Freeze and Gus gambles? They’ve actually won and been successful in the SEC

Freeze is a gamble because you are hoping that he doesn't get us the death penalty.

Gus is a gamble because it was obvious that he had been figured out in the SEC. My Auburn friends pretty much lost interest in football at the end of his tenure. You are hoping that he would be different at a school with less money.

If either were still a sure thing they would still be in the SEC.

[Goldendawg]

Freeze is a gamble because you are hoping that he doesn't get us the death penalty.

Gus is a gamble because it was obvious that he had been figured out in the SEC. My Auburn friends pretty much lost interest in football at the end of his tenure. You are hoping that he would be different at a school with less money.

I go to every home game, but the "Air Raid" has caused a lack a interest in watching our O. Beat OM and my outlook changes a lot!

[confucius say]

Gus just got beat by Navy 😂
UCF was a 16 pt favorite

Sounds like a coach focused on something other than his team

[PMDawg]

[QUOTE=Lord McBuckethead;1469919

Just because I want our backup qbs to get meaningful snaps in a game where I could throw for 200 and win by 21 doesn?t mean I hate Will. I criticize him because he doesn?t have the arm talent to get us to where we are trying to go. This does not mean I hate him by any means. Hell, I want him to succeed. When he does well, my life is more enjoyable.[/QUOTE]

THANK YOU. This system is so heavily dependent on the QB getting as many reps as possible that Will is the only one ever getting meaningful snaps in practice or in games. We need to have a back up ready. One day Will will graduate. He could get hurt. Right now, we have no one ready. Let's use some of these opportunities to get ready. It's not like Will needed the reps to get ready for a post season run.

[Santiago]

Sonny Dykes is making $6 MIL a year at TCU and about has his team in the playoffs...anyone thinks he sees State as a better path to success and wealth needs really reevaluate their thoughts of where we are as program. We cannot pull him from TCU

Agree 100%. I am not even sure if our fans can post seriously thinking Dykes would leave DFW area to come to MSU. He is sitting in a recruiting hotbead for skill players. TCU has money, and is a private school. They can easily outbid us if it even actually came down to just salary. But in many ways he is sitting at a much better location.
It is another reason I get frustrated with the fire leach people during season 3. We had to go through a bad Moorhead 2 years, and yet we think we can cut Leach loose with a winning record, and somehow another coach will see it as an attractive job when he will be fired for winning 8 games.

[Msujd164]

Sonny Dykes is not taking TCU to the playoffs and then leaving for Mississippi State. Not happening.

Mississippi State, along with hookers, was the nail in the coffin of Freeze at OM. He is not coming here.

Roll the dice on Prime. There would be energy, instantly into the program. Barstool would be throwing money at our recruits. We would be too 10 classes every year.

[Percho]

Not sure if there is another SEC team other than Vandy that would promote their WR coach to HC...that would be baffling and depressing (not to mention crippling).

We're in the SEC. We're not the Little Sisters of the Poor. We can get a decent coach. It's just all about fit, and there is definitely a bit of luck in that.

I'm also not worried about competing with OM on hiring a coach.

How different would it be than this?

Beamer had a successful first season in Columbia, improving the Gamecocks by 3.5 games, from a 2-8 season in 2020 to a 7-6 campaign in 2021, including a convincing win over North Carolina in the Duke?s Mayo Bowl. Doubling the preseason?s expected win total earned Coach Beamer a share of the Steve Spurrier First-Year Coach of the Year Award, presented by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA). Safety Jaylan Foster earned All-America honors during Beamer?s inagural season.



Prior to his first head coaching stint, Beamer had been an assistant coach at seven Football Bowl Subdivision schools for 21 seasons. During his assistant coaching career he coached in 17 bowl games, including a College Football Playoff National Championship Game, posted 18 non-losing seasons, six of those with double-digit victories, and his teams won 63.0 percent of its games.

Beamer has been a part of building programs throughout his career. He has been a part of three coaching staffs, where the head coach was in his first or second season at the school. He joined Sylvester Croom?s staff at Mississippi State in his first season, Kirby Smart?s program at Georgia in his first season, and Lincoln Riley?s unit at Oklahoma in his second season.


Everybody has to start somewhere.

[CaptainObvious]

Some of y?all have pipe dreams and some of you are too damn selective. We missed on Dykes when clown AD picked Mo?head.

I doubt Freeze would take it since the hate is strong between him and certain Influential State Fans.

Gus or Chizik or FCS coaches are the best we can get because WE don?t have the GROVE of dying oak trees with roots all over the ground, with acorns everywhere with no grass.

[Really Clark?]

Some of y?all have pipe dreams and some of you are too damn selective. We missed on Dykes when clown AD picked Mo?head.

I doubt Freeze would take it since the hate is strong between him and certain Influential State Fans.

Gus or Chizik or FCS coaches are the best we can get because WE don?t have the GROVE of dying oak trees with roots all over the ground, with acorns everywhere with no grass.

We didn't miss on Dykes. He wasn't on any P5 radar because he had just got fired from Cal with only 1 winning season. He wasn't even an on the field coach when we were looking. He looks great now and did good at SMU, But nobody was thinking he was the guy we needed at time of the Moorehead hire.

[Commercecomet24]

We didn't miss on Dykes. He wasn't on any P5 radar because he had just got fired from Cal with only 1 winning season. He wasn't even an on the field coach when we were looking. He looks great now and did good at SMU, But nobody was thinking he was the guy we needed at time of the Moorehead hire.

This, people have short term memories. Dykes had sucked at cal

[Cowbell]

Deion would blow up recruiting here. The outside attention alone would justify the hire. It's not like he will call plays or scheme. And this game is about Jimmys and Joes and we need a LOT of help in this area.we would have a top 10 class with prime here.

[CoachT14]

This, people have short term memories. Dykes had sucked at cal

And there?s a reason for that. Most people have objectively be able to say that it wasn?t Dykes? fault. There are a ton of internal issues above the head football coach?s head out there.

Not to mention most people, including Dykes realize that was a terrible fit. His record outside of Cal is more than worth excusing the 4 years there.

[msu15]

Deion would blow up recruiting here. The outside attention alone would justify the hire. It's not like he will call plays or scheme. And this game is about Jimmys and Joes and we need a LOT of help in this area.we would have a top 10 class with prime here.
Man I'd take Deion tomorrow but we've never had a top 10 class and now with NIL I never see that happening for us. Maybe consistently top 20.

[AlSwearengen]

NIL is going to be the new big factor in attracting a coach. MSU is at a bigger disadvantage with NIL than it was at during the days of “impermissible benefits”. With NIL, there really doesn’t have to be any restraint or discretion, therefore everyone can jump in without worry.

At this point, MSU is way behind in salary and way behind in NIL. I imagine an up and coming coach like Prime or some hot shot coordinator will probably wait for a better situation.

[ImissCityBagel]

NIL is going to be the new big factor in attracting a coach. MSU is at a bigger disadvantage with NIL than it was at during the days of “impermissible benefits”. With NIL, there really doesn’t have to be any restraint or discretion, therefore everyone can jump in without worry.

At this point, MSU is way behind in salary and way behind in NIL. I imagine an up and coming coach like Prime or some hot shot coordinator will probably wait for a better situation.

Exactly what I'm thinking.

[Cowbell]

Man I'd take Deion tomorrow but we've never had a top 10 class and now with NIL I never see that happening for us. Maybe consistently top 20.

If we hire him, I will take that bet with you. Most people don't realize that Barstool is funding his NIL money. He has a 5* at Jackson state.

[Quaoarsking]

If we hire him, I will take that bet with you. Most people don't realize that Barstool is funding his NIL money. He has a 5* at Jackson state.

I said after our basketball game that we need to become "The Barstool School" across all sports and this would be a path to that.

[PikeDawg15]

I said after our basketball game that we need to become "The Barstool School" across all sports and this would be a path to that.

Brandon Walker could help us out

[Reunion Dog]

Dykes at Cal was as bad as Mhead at State. Both bad hires by idiots in charge.

Dykes can recruit in the SE along with TX and mid west.

I for one don?t want the clown circus show that goes with Deion. He is making so much money on his production show that promotes just him.

We don?t want or need a coach who is more worried about getting his production company more money & access across the airways than worrying about how best to recruit and what?s best for State? not Deion.

Plus he isn?t ready for the SEC. HELL before he took the job at JSU he was coaching his son in high school and MRA smoked his ass in Madison.

He would be a joke here. If our administration would offer him over some other coaches that are available?. Then we deserve to get what a ridiculous clown show it would be.

He isn?t ready for the SEC PERIOD.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dykes at Cal was as bad as Mhead at State. Both bad hires by idiots in charge.

Dykes can recruit in the SE along with TX and mid west.

I for one don?t want the clown circus show that goes with Deion. He is making so much money on his production show that promotes just him.

We don?t want or need a coach who is more worried about getting his production company more money & access across the airways than worrying about how best to recruit and what?s best for State? not Deion.

Plus he isn?t ready for the SEC. HELL before he took the job at JSU he was coaching his son in high school and MRA smoked his ass in Madison.

He would be a joke here. If our administration would offer him over some other coaches that are available?. Then we deserve to get what a ridiculous clown show it would be.

He isn?t ready for the SEC PERIOD.

And who might be some of those other coaches available that you mention? Deion is a sitting HC. He knows how to market a program. Do I care if he is marketing himself as well? Not one bit. Mullen marketed himself from Day 1. Kiffin markets himself at OM. Saban? Same thing. Everyone wants to talk about how at State we have to be different, well this is different.

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

If we need a new coach, there's one out there that would probably exceed the Mullen/Leach Baseline, but it would take a lot of money to pry him away from his current job:

https://i.imgur.com/ukEGloI.png

His record against his in state rival is comparable to Leach?s and that apparently is the only measuring stick for most State fans.

[StarkVegasSteve]

His record against his in state rival is comparable to Leach?s and that apparently is the only measuring stick for most State fans.

My issue with Gundy would be that we will have to pay out the ass for him. His buyout, which is usually covered by the school you are going to, is almost 15 mil. Add that to probably have to pay 10-12 mil for staff and him

[CaptainObvious]

Joe Judge is available this time around. I?d rather have Biliema. He has Illinois competitive in the B 1 G

[Quaoarsking]

Joe Judge is available this time around. I?d rather have Biliema. He has Illinois competitive in the B 1 G

Yeah I wonder how Bielema would do in the SEC.**

[DownwardDawg]

Yeah I wonder how Bielema would do in the SEC.**

I still don't understand why that didn't work out. He seemed like the perfect fit for Arkansas.

[Extendedcab]

You are totally missing the point and doing it on purpose. You arent half as smart and cool as you think you are sometimes. Sweetie. And for the record we agree on a lot but you have been on one lately

Who cares? You either like his posts or you don't, your call. If you don't, why berate him? I personally like his posts!! Keep it up Coach!!

[TrapGame]

I still don't understand why that didn't work out. He seemed like the perfect fit for Arkansas.

I loved Fat Bert. And Fit Jen was easy on the eyes.

[WPS]

I still don't understand why that didn't work out. He seemed like the perfect fit for Arkansas.

He lost more heartbreaking, close games than anyone I've ever seen from about 2014-2016. Sometimes a field goal here and there can be the difference between 7 and 10 wins. He actually had quite a bit of NFL talent to work with during that time.

But toward the end I think he got too drunk and lazy in recruiting and it was time to move on. He's a decent coach when he's focused.

[Tater]

Deion is a CEO coach not an X's and O's coach.

There's plenty of Air Raid disciples willing to be OC. Arnett looks happy being the defense head coach.

Give me that + a new QB and that's second best case scenario for me behind Leach and a talented QB to run the whole offense.

[TrapGame]

Deion is a CEO coach not an X's and O's coach.

There's plenty of Air Raid disciples willing to be OC. Arnett looks happy being the defense head coach.

Give me that + a new QB and that's second best case scenario for me behind Leach and a talented QB to run the whole offense.

Truthfully, I'd take Deion over Mullen any day of the week.

[Santiago]

He lost more heartbreaking, close games than anyone I've ever seen from about 2014-2016. Sometimes a field goal here and there can be the difference between 7 and 10 wins. He actually had quite a bit of NFL talent to work with during that time.

But toward the end I think he got too drunk and lazy in recruiting and it was time to move on. He's a decent coach when he's focused.

WPS, where is Briles going after this season? I see on Arkansas boards some insiders saying he is planning to leave. Possibly take a few players with him.

[TrapGame]

WPS, where is Briles going after this season? I see on Arkansas boards some insiders saying he is planning to leave. Possibly take a few players with him.

Hugh Freeze to Arkansas as OC.***

[DownwardDawg]

He lost more heartbreaking, close games than anyone I've ever seen from about 2014-2016. Sometimes a field goal here and there can be the difference between 7 and 10 wins. He actually had quite a bit of NFL talent to work with during that time.

But toward the end I think he got too drunk and lazy in recruiting and it was time to move on. He's a decent coach when he's focused.

Yeah. It was a head scratcher for me. When y'all hired him I really thought it was a great fit. I love his offense.

[DawgPoundRock]

Go get Garret Riley from TCU and be done with it

[WPS]

WPS, where is Briles going after this season? I see on Arkansas boards some insiders saying he is planning to leave. Possibly take a few players with him.

He might get a G5 head coaching offer, but there has also been some smoke about South Carolina if they get rid of their OC (which looked probable until last Saturday).

If he lands at a G5 I could see Malik Hornsby going with him. He's a great athlete but not an SEC QB.

[CoachT14]

Go get Garret Riley from TCU and be done with it

I’ve asked this before and got no response. Does he even call the plays?

He’s a bigger risk than Deion. And Deion is a massive risk. Yes he recruits well. But his talent level is probably quadruple that of every team he’s playing. I’m not sold on him at all.

[RiverCityDawg]

I’ve asked this before and got no response. Does he even call the plays?

He’s a bigger risk than Deion. And Deion is a massive risk. Yes he recruits well. But his talent level is probably quadruple that of every team he’s playing. I’m not sold on him at all.

Yes, he called plays for TCU.

[ZedFedder]

How sure are we Leach is stepping down? I don’t see it happening.

[TrapGame]

How sure are we Leach is stepping down? I don’t see it happening.

Because it's not. If Leach was actually stepping down it would be more than a half-ass rumor by now. It's wishful thinking from the Leach Haters.

[Goldendawg]

Coach Leach interview made MSN.com about his ability to make gravy for Thanksgiving along with his other meal choices. Sure recruits pay attention to such things.**** This would be be much more entertaining to me if we had a more successful "O" in big games or for 4 quarters in all SEC games. If we can't attract good HS players, what makes you think we have needed success in the portal? I'm concerned about the '23 class.

[Really Clark?]

I’ve asked this before and got no response. Does he even call the plays?

He’s a bigger risk than Deion. And Deion is a massive risk. Yes he recruits well. But his talent level is probably quadruple that of every team he’s playing. I’m not sold on him at all.

He's the play caller and was at SMU too. But I think it's too soon for him. Let him get another year or 2 in P5 as OC or train as HC in G5.

[TrapGame]

Just FYI, Rosebowl says the Leach retiring rumor is total bullshit.

[Quaoarsking]

Just FYI, Rosebowl says the Leach retiring rumor is total bullshit.

Time to lock and delete this thread, at least until Friday. It can be restored if it turns out to be true after all.

[civildawg]

This rumor is probably total BS but rosebowl may be worse than gene for MSU media members

[TrapGame]

This rumor is probably total BS but rosebowl may be worse than gene for MSU media members

Paul is saying it's bullshit too, btw.

[CadaverDawg]

As State fans we must love disappointment. So much so, in addition to getting waxed Thursday night, we double down on disappointment by getting our own hopes up that Leach is retiring, now those of you that actually believed it are going to be doubly disappointed.

Now imagine Leach stays, we get smoked, AND Kiffin stays in Oxford. Prepare yourself accordingly.

[PikeDawg15]

As State fans we must love disappointment. So much so, in addition to getting waxed Thursday night, we double down on disappointment by getting our own hopes up that Leach is retiring, now those of you that actually believed it are going to be doubly disappointed.

Now imagine Leach stays, we get smoked, AND Kiffin stays in Oxford. Prepare yourself accordingly.


Best case scenario : We smoke OM, kiffin gets in the pine box and Cohen takes him to the Barn with him and all the OM players and we get some of their recruits to flip and they hire someone who has never been a HC like Jeff Lebby

Worst Case Scenario: OM smokes us, Kiffin resigns for over 10 million per year, Auburn hires Hugh Freeze, and Leach gets a raise and extension and we promote someone to AD from inside again.

[PikeDawg15]

Best case scenario : We smoke OM, kiffin gets in the pine box and Cohen takes him to the Barn with him and all the OM players and we get some of their recruits to flip and they hire someone who has never been a HC like Jeff Lebby

Worst Case Scenario: OM smokes us, Kiffin resigns for over 10 million per year, Auburn hires Hugh Freeze, and Leach gets a raise and extension and we promote someone to AD from inside again.

My prediction as of now: OM beats us 41-27, Kiffin says he's excited about the future, gets in the pine box and goes to the Barn. Leach gets canned and we throw the bag at Deion Sanders.
Ole Miss then gets Dave Clawson from Wake Forrest

[Homedawg]

My prediction as of now: OM beats us 41-27, Kiffin says he's excited about the future, gets in the pine box and goes to the Barn. Leach gets canned and we throw the bag at Deion Sanders.
Ole Miss then gets Dave Clawson from Wake Forrest

HAHAHAAH The first two are possible, if not likely. After that, no.

[memsu06]

Joe Judge is available this time around. I?d rather have Biliema. He has Illinois competitive in the B 1 G

Great plan.

We go from 70% passing and 30% running to 70% running and 30% passing.

I'm sure our WRs and QBs would be happy to stick around for that.

Let me guess you're gonna give him 2-3 years to get to a 9-10 win season before we fire them for the next guy.

[vindastra]

Great plan.

We go from 70% passing and 30% running to 70% running and 30% passing.

I'm sure our WRs and QBs would be happy to stick around for that.

Let me guess you're gonna give him 2-3 years to get to a 9-10 win season before we fire them for the next guy.

If you run the ball, apparently this board would give decades, raise statues etc. Results be damned.

[TrapGame]

If you run the ball, apparently this board would give decades, raise statues etc. Results be damned.

Well shit I think Indiana only threw the ball 3 times Saturday. Let's hire Tom Allen.

[Commercecomet24]

Well shit I think Indiana only threw the ball 3 times Saturday. Let's hire Tom Allen.

Lol, Navy didn't throw a single pass saturday and beat ucf! Lets go all in on the wishbone or whatever they call it now!

[BuckyIsAB****]

As State fans we must love disappointment. So much so, in addition to getting waxed Thursday night, we double down on disappointment by getting our own hopes up that Leach is retiring, now those of you that actually believed it are going to be doubly disappointed.

Now imagine Leach stays, we get smoked, AND Kiffin stays in Oxford. Prepare yourself accordingly.

Jesus dude