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NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 08:35 AM
I know its a Monday but I'm hoping to see a nice crowd to support the team and new coaching staff on the 1st night. Texas A&M CC made the tourney last year as a 16 seed, they bring back most of that team and are well coached but we have more talent than them so I expect a win here.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 02:22 PM
Just got tix

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 03:04 PM
Just got tix
Nice! They deserve our support

Goldendawg
11-07-2022, 03:07 PM
My son, a good friend, and I will be there. Hail State!

Bothrops
11-07-2022, 04:44 PM
Jans can coach

Schultzy
11-07-2022, 06:12 PM
I’m excited about hoops again with Jans here and a fresh start with a motivated coach.

dawgday166
11-07-2022, 06:30 PM
What the over/under in games for the first Ms7 melt? *****

msstate7
11-07-2022, 06:35 PM
What the over/under in games for the first Ms7 melt? *****

1/2 game

dawgday166
11-07-2022, 06:36 PM
1/2 game

Dayum ... I was gonna bet 3 or 4 games. **

EdwardDrayton
11-07-2022, 07:23 PM
Thank the Lord for some college basketball.

msu15
11-07-2022, 07:23 PM
Most excited I've been for the program in 4 years.

msu15
11-07-2022, 07:39 PM
Good to see coaches in suits again and not dressed like bums like Howland and Nikki were.

starkvegasdawg
11-07-2022, 07:41 PM
Down 10-6 14:41 first half.

mparkerfd20
11-07-2022, 07:45 PM
Not impressed. We look like shit.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 07:45 PM
Ugly

msu15
11-07-2022, 07:47 PM
Cue the Rob Schneider gif.

MaroonFlounder
11-07-2022, 07:47 PM
Gettin' our butts handled so far

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 07:47 PM
We look horrible so far

CaptainObvious
11-07-2022, 07:47 PM
Yeah. But wait until NEXT Year!

R2Dawg
11-07-2022, 07:48 PM
Huge drop in talent. Some of what we feared with Howland leaving.

I like our D intensity. Really bad O. TAMCC is a pretty good team but we are not good so far.

Offshore Dawg
11-07-2022, 07:48 PM
Dumb play, SOS so far.

R2Dawg
11-07-2022, 07:50 PM
Our ball IQ is really low. TAMCC look like a tourney team, we a mile away from it.

KOdawg1
11-07-2022, 07:51 PM
I knew we would be pretty bad offensively. Didn't think it would be this bad so far. Yikes

R2Dawg
11-07-2022, 07:52 PM
One pace to score about 38 for game, ouch.

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 07:56 PM
I know it's only the 1st half in the 1st game but we don't look like an SEC team. Our guys look scared. When Tolu sits we have no post presence at all... it might be a long year

PMDawg
11-07-2022, 07:57 PM
No worries. If you bet us to cover the spread, you?re only down 25 points so far.

CaptainObvious
11-07-2022, 07:58 PM
Nah. This is an RPI booster for State, lose or win.😎😎😎

msu15
11-07-2022, 07:59 PM
Moore needs to be a starter.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:04 PM
Isn't Jones a walk-on?

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 08:05 PM
Isn't Jones a walk-in?
Yes he is

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 08:05 PM
Shak is our best player. He and Tolu will have to carry this team

HoopsDawg
11-07-2022, 08:07 PM
Not a lot of talent out there boys. Other than Davis, Jans didn't add much at all.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:10 PM
Got some holes in our press

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:12 PM
Some of these guys we added put up double digit scoring on the level of this team. Tighten up

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:13 PM
Little tang

msu15
11-07-2022, 08:14 PM
Good to see multiple defensive sets out there again.

mparkerfd20
11-07-2022, 08:17 PM
Defense is not bad. Get a few balls to drop and it isn't as bad as it looked for the first half of the half.

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 08:22 PM
Defense is solid but we have to fund an offensive identity.

msugolf
11-07-2022, 08:23 PM
Guys chill out. Basketball relies on team chemistry more than any other sport out there. It will take time for them to learn the roles and each others tendencies. You have to be comfortable in basketball and right now we are trying to figure things out. We are lacking on talent but they will play better as the year goes on.

It was really nice to see different defensive sets. Forgot what that felt like.

Also, Shawn Jones is going to be a player

EdwardDrayton
11-07-2022, 08:25 PM
Going to be a few games before we truly begin to see what we have.

dawgday166
11-07-2022, 08:29 PM
1/2 game

Midway thru 2nd half. 3/4 of a game. ***

Offshore Dawg
11-07-2022, 08:44 PM
Going to be a few games before we truly begin to see what we have.

This seems to be very true as Jans is working out rotations.

mparkerfd20
11-07-2022, 08:45 PM
Gone are the days of lazy defense it looks like. I can get behind that for sure.

ZedFedder
11-07-2022, 08:47 PM
Outside of the first 10 minutes, we have looked really good on defense and better as the game goes on with offense.

Playing with intensity has not happened in men’s bball in a long time. LETS GO JANS!

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:53 PM
For a team that can't shoot 3s, we sure shoot a lot of 3s

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:55 PM
We're 3/19 from 3

LC Dawg
11-07-2022, 08:59 PM
How can we year after year have no one who can make a 3?

msstate7
11-07-2022, 08:59 PM
How can we year after year have no one who can make a 3?

I'm more concerned that we can't make 3s, and yet, we continue to shoot them like we Duke

ZedFedder
11-07-2022, 09:00 PM
Playing defense like we are will mask a lot of things. It’s sad that playing hard defense is all it takes to get me excited, but that’s where I’m at post Howland.

R2Dawg
11-07-2022, 09:00 PM
I'll say this. We play hard and we play as a team. I don't see any selfish play. Been a while since we could say that.

We've looked better in 2nd.

KOdawg1
11-07-2022, 09:03 PM
I'll say this. We play hard and we play as a team. I don't see any selfish play. Been a while since we could say that.

We've looked better in 2nd.

Yeah, we've looked bad offensively but at least we have a gameplan. Last year, we'd pass it around the perimeter for 25 seconds and then jack up a bad jump shot.

Defensively, we look really good

msu15
11-07-2022, 09:03 PM
I'm seeing some really good things tonight. Everybody is rebounding, sharing the ball, playing defense. I like it.

LC Dawg
11-07-2022, 09:03 PM
I'm more concerned that we can't make 3s, and yet, we continue to shoot them like we Duke

The majority are by Moore and Jeffries. Howland let them keep missing over and over. I hope Jans does something about it.

EdwardDrayton
11-07-2022, 09:05 PM
I love me some Cam Matthews.

ZedFedder
11-07-2022, 09:07 PM
We are playing in and out through Tolu, and it is making a huge difference.

msu15
11-07-2022, 09:08 PM
We are playing in and out through Tolu, and it is making a huge difference.

Yep, it simplifies the game plan so much. Look for him early and often and create motion around him.

msu15
11-07-2022, 09:08 PM
DJ is way more comfortable in his role this season

LC Dawg
11-07-2022, 09:09 PM
When I watch DJ Jeffries it looks like God made a basketball player and DJ just can't figure out how to make it work.

MaroonFlounder
11-07-2022, 09:09 PM
2nd half has been better organized than anything Howland put on the floor his entire time here.

The fight for rebounds. Intense D, and TOLU doing TOLU things.

I like what I see.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 09:11 PM
2nd half has been better organized than anything Howland put on the floor his entire time here.

The fight for rebounds. Intense D, and TOLU doing TOLU things.

I like what I see.

I like a lot of what I saw 2nd half, but the onslaught of 3s is horrible. We can't shoot 'em... they should be limited.

CaptainObvious
11-07-2022, 09:14 PM
Yep. I don?t know what the season holds but the defensive effort is outstanding and will eventually create scoring at the other end. We are about to win a game by double digits scoring in the low 60?s. I?m not sure we won 10 games scoring in the 60?s under Howland?s entire tenure.

ZedFedder
11-07-2022, 09:22 PM
We held them to 14 second half points. FOURTEEN.

civildawg
11-07-2022, 09:22 PM
Was that Stan?s kid that came in at the end? If so, I feel very old

EdwardDrayton
11-07-2022, 09:22 PM
That was fun. On to the Zips.

PikeDawg15
11-07-2022, 09:23 PM
THAT FELT GOOD

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 09:23 PM
Looked alot better the 2nd half. Definitely will be a defensive team, but somebody other than Tolu has to help score. I posed the question before the season started, who will be our go to perimeter scorer? As of now Shak is the closest thing we have to a perimeter scorer... There's just no DJ Stewart, Iverson Molinar, Q. Weatherspoon, Lamar Peters type scorer on this team.. hopefully one can emerge as the season goes on

R2Dawg
11-07-2022, 09:23 PM
Its only one game but I like what I saw 2nd half.

This brand of basketball feels like the old MSU and it fits who we are. We are a blue collar school and blue collar team. That is how we win.

tcdog70
11-07-2022, 09:24 PM
I’ll take this DJ. And Cam does Cam things. I like what I saw

PikeDawg15
11-07-2022, 09:27 PM
Wish our 3 point shooting would improve.

We would be very good with a 3 point sniper

Commercecomet24
11-07-2022, 09:28 PM
Jans is a tough coach, who teaches physical defense and rebounding and he's pretty dang good in game coach too. We're gonna be tough and play hard!

HoopsDawg
11-07-2022, 09:29 PM
I like a lot of what I saw 2nd half, but the onslaught of 3s is horrible. We can't shoot 'em... they should be limited.

You have to take those shots though. Shak will shoot it better.

msu15
11-07-2022, 09:36 PM
We upgraded at Head Coach.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 09:39 PM
Win and covered

msstate7
11-07-2022, 09:40 PM
We upgraded at Head Coach.

Coaching wise, I agree. Can he get the players though?

LC Dawg
11-07-2022, 09:47 PM
You have to take those shots though. Shak will shoot it better.

I hope he shoots it better because he was 0-6.
I like a lot of Shak's game but at this point in his MSU career maybe he shouldn't continue to shoot 3s. Maybe he should just distribute, drive, and play defense.

Bothrops
11-07-2022, 09:51 PM
Great win for Jans. More rebounds than were used to seeing, and great defense second half.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 09:51 PM
Is Friday on tv?

msu15
11-07-2022, 10:05 PM
Is Friday on tv?

Every game is it just depends on if your service gets it. Friday is on Barstool.tv

msu15
11-07-2022, 10:06 PM
Coaching wise, I agree. Can he get the players though?

That will be the question for sure. NIL may be a big help for him.

EdwardDrayton
11-07-2022, 10:08 PM
Is Friday on tv?

Does not look like it is.

Commercecomet24
11-07-2022, 10:09 PM
We upgraded at Head Coach.

No doubt about it.

EdwardDrayton
11-07-2022, 10:25 PM
Some Ole Miss fans calling for a new coach before their first game is even over!! LOL!!

ZedFedder
11-07-2022, 10:39 PM
Isiaih Mosley isn’t even starting for Missouri. Wow. They scored 97 points, and I assumed he’d have 20 or so. He only scored 7.

Goldendawg
11-07-2022, 10:46 PM
Was that Stan?s kid that came in at the end? If so, I feel very old

Yes, Issac. Went to game, much better second half, better D, ran full court press entire half, ran O through Tulu. Moore very good off coming off bench. Jeffries played under control, not like a bull in a china shop. Tulu big double/double. Matthews, tough on D, glue guy you need. Not much yet from new guys. 25 point turnaround from 1st half. Played as a team, good start.

msstate7
11-07-2022, 10:55 PM
Isiaih Mosley isn’t even starting for Missouri. Wow. They scored 97 points, and I assumed he’d have 20 or so. He only scored 7.

Maybe we didn't miss that much then

msstate7
11-07-2022, 10:57 PM
Isiaih Mosley isn’t even starting for Missouri. Wow. They scored 97 points, and I assumed he’d have 20 or so. He only scored 7.

He actually scored 4

4 pts (2-7 shooting)

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 11:23 PM
Is Friday on tv?

https://www.wellsfargocenterphilly.com/events/detail/barstool-sports-invitational-11-11

Apparently you can watch it on barstool t.v. not sure how to access it. If someone finds out please post

NCMSTFAN
11-07-2022, 11:25 PM
Is Friday on tv?

https://barstool.tv/live

Possibly here

msstate7
11-07-2022, 11:27 PM
https://barstool.tv/

msstate7
11-07-2022, 11:28 PM
https://barstool.tv/live

Possibly here

I was looking for it too. I think you and I got the correct link

NCMSTFAN
11-08-2022, 12:01 AM
I was looking for it too. I think you and I got the correct link

Yea it looks like thats it. I prefer ESPN/SEC network, it's just easier but I'll watch where I can

ZedFedder
11-08-2022, 12:03 AM
He actually scored 4

4 pts (2-7 shooting)

Wow. I guess I just saw the 7. We may have dodged a bullet.

msstate7
11-08-2022, 07:03 AM
Matthews...
4 pts 6 reb 3 assist 3 steals 5 blocks

I love that stat line.

duncflydawg
11-08-2022, 07:15 AM
Glad they turned it around in the second half! I?m used to them losing it in the second!

NCMSTFAN
11-08-2022, 08:09 AM
Akron won't be an easy game either, they went to the tourney last year also and lost by 4 points to #4 UCLA. They also beat South Dakota State last night, SD state went 30-5 last year and bring back 3 starters from that team. Hopefully we can get some nice early quality wins against teams that will probably be in the tourney and not limp into SEC play like we normally do.

Eric Nies Grind Time
11-08-2022, 08:36 AM
Akron won't be an easy game either, they went to the tourney last year also and lost by 4 points to #4 UCLA. They also beat South Dakota State last night, SD state went 30-5 last year and bring back 3 starters from that team. Hopefully we can get some nice early quality wins against teams that will probably be in the tourney and not limp into SEC play like we normally do.

Yeah Akron is pretty solid. Will be a good early test. Also Marquette, Minnesota and Drake will be tough. It's a pretty decent OOC schedule.

msstate7
11-08-2022, 08:52 AM
Yeah Akron is pretty solid. Will be a good early test. Also Marquette, Minnesota and Drake will be tough. It's a pretty decent OOC schedule.

But we completely negated it by scheduling 2 swac schools

Eric Nies Grind Time
11-08-2022, 09:12 AM
But we completely negated it by scheduling 2 swac schools

Pine bluff may be decent. They almost beat TCU yesterday.

msstate7
11-08-2022, 09:30 AM
Pine bluff may be decent. They almost beat TCU yesterday.

Guess it's 3 then. I was looking at valley and jsu

PMDawg
11-08-2022, 09:46 AM
Win and covered

Yeah, that was really impressive to come back and cover like that. After a slow start, a great effort by the team. I hope we see more of that (sans the slow start), that's the type of basketball that I can really get behind.

Johnson85
11-08-2022, 10:05 AM
Guys chill out. Basketball relies on team chemistry more than any other sport out there. It will take time for them to learn the roles and each others tendencies. You have to be comfortable in basketball and right now we are trying to figure things out. We are lacking on talent but they will play better as the year goes on.

It was really nice to see different defensive sets. Forgot what that felt like.

Also, Shawn Jones is going to be a player

Doesn't Jans run a motion offense? Takes some time to run that correctly and I think a lot of players aren't exposed to it like they used to be.

Santiago
11-08-2022, 10:23 AM
Shawn Jones is a guy that will only get more comfortable this year, and have nights where he cannot miss.

NCMSTFAN
11-08-2022, 11:15 AM
Shawn Jones is a guy that will only get more comfortable this year, and have nights where he cannot miss.

I hope so.. I was surprised to see him get that much playing time as a walk on Freshman but Jans did rave about him and was excited that we got him from Texas State. We are going to need some perimeter scoring

gtowndawg
11-08-2022, 12:17 PM
Positive start for sure.

R2Dawg
11-08-2022, 12:56 PM
We upgraded at Head Coach.

It appears so. Big change in brand, style, effort, unselfishness, etc. If he gets the right ingredients, he can win here.

TALL DAWG
11-08-2022, 01:53 PM
100% he can!

Ari Gold
11-09-2022, 01:53 AM
Some Ole Miss fans calling for a new coach before their first game is even over!! LOL!!

Rumor is , Kermit was told this summer it?s Ncaa or You?re Fired !!

Ari Gold
11-09-2022, 02:19 AM
Not the cupcake opponent you would like to play opening the season with a new coach .. a ncaa tourney team that retuned 5 starters but a very solid win

First half was bad . Shooting terrible and way too many turnovers

Played a bunch of guys, I’m sure Jans will continue to do this a few weeks to see who he can go to war with come sec play . I doubt we go deeper than 9 guys

We still don’t have a shooter.. I just don’t understand why we can’t find or recruit a guy that is a shooter that can get hot and knock down 3s

Tolu HAS to stay healthy and stay on the floor .. I hope he is in great shape

Looks like DJ might be the player we thought he could be. Looks more comfortable I wish he would look to score more . Driving to the basket

If Shaq can just shoot 30%-35% from 3 that would be such a bonus and needed terribly

Hustle was there / defense was there .. I don’t care who you play if you hold them to 14 points in a half that’s a great effort

With Jans, I was told by a big time college basketball guy that we hired the best X and O coach out of all the coaches hired in the SEC. The one big concern he was worried about was could he get the players here he needed .. and this wasn’t a state guy that told me this

NIT would be solid season IMO
We do have to play Tenn twice .. but I think we get arky , uk, and Aub just once
Not sure the sec will be as tough top to bottom as previous years
Might be a good bit of separation between the top 5 or so teams and the rest of the league

And regarding the Hump , what an absolute disaster . No reason to be that far behind in the renovations .

NCMSTFAN
11-09-2022, 08:39 AM
Not the cupcake opponent you would like to play opening the season with a new coach .. a ncaa tourney team that retuned 5 starters but a very solid win

First half was bad . Shooting terrible and way too many turnovers

Played a bunch of guys, I’m sure Jans will continue to do this a few weeks to see who he can go to war with come sec play . I doubt we go deeper than 9 guys

We still don’t have a shooter.. I just don’t understand why we can’t find or recruit a guy that is a shooter that can get hot and knock down 3s

Tolu HAS to stay healthy and stay on the floor .. I hope he is in great shape

Looks like DJ might be the player we thought he could be. Looks more comfortable I wish he would look to score more . Driving to the basket

If Shaq can just shoot 30%-35% from 3 that would be such a bonus and needed terribly

Hustle was there / defense was there .. I don’t care who you play if you hold them to 14 points in a half that’s a great effort

With Jans, I was told by a big time college basketball guy that we hired the best X and O coach out of all the coaches hired in the SEC. The one big concern he was worried about was could he get the players here he needed .. and this wasn’t a state guy that told me this

NIT would be solid season IMO
We do have to play Tenn twice .. but I think we get arky , uk, and Aub just once
Not sure the sec will be as tough top to bottom as previous years
Might be a good bit of separation between the top 5 or so teams and the rest of the league

And regarding the Hump , what an absolute disaster . No reason to be that far behind in the renovations .

Eric Reed Jr. and Shawn Jones can supposedly shoot the ball good, its hard to judge off one game so I will keep an eye on those two. Shak and DJ Jeffries both have the potential to be solid shooters as well. DJ in particular needs to step up and be the aggressive perimeter offensive guy that we need. Right now we have no true perimeter scorer that can take the game over, the potential is there for him to be that guy, he just has to go get it.

I worry about our post depth, when Tolu sits we have no post presence at all. Will Mcnair brings size but that's about it.

Right now Jans is figuring out who he can rely on, our defense and rebounding look really good, if we can get some consistent scoring we will be a tough out for everyone. I do worry about the future and his recruiting, the guys he brought in didn't impress me in game 1 and the guys he signed next year are all 3 star players and below with minimal offers. He's gotta recruit better to be consistent in the SEC.

Rawdawg
11-09-2022, 09:18 PM
Eric Reed Jr. and Shawn Jones can supposedly shoot the ball good, its hard to judge off one game so I will keep an eye on those two. Shak and DJ Jeffries both have the potential to be solid shooters as well. DJ in particular needs to step up and be the aggressive perimeter offensive guy that we need. Right now we have no true perimeter scorer that can take the game over, the potential is there for him to be that guy, he just has to go get it.

I worry about our post depth, when Tolu sits we have no post presence at all. Will Mcnair brings size but that's about it.

Right now Jans is figuring out who he can rely on, our defense and rebounding look really good, if we can get some consistent scoring we will be a tough out for everyone. I do worry about the future and his recruiting, the guys he brought in didn't impress me in game 1 and the guys he signed next year are all 3 star players and below with minimal offers. He's gotta recruit better to be consistent in the SEC.

Post depth is a real problem. The offense is Tolu. Jans will have to hit the portal hard and find someone to replace Tolu and has to find a scoring guard. Like absolutely has to find a shooter.

Good to see us mix things up defensively but pressing that much against a low major team is concerning. However it was nice to see an adjustment.

As for the hump?yikes. It?s a shitshow.

Jarius
11-10-2022, 10:30 AM
Does anyone know if a bar in the district will be streaming the game Friday?

msstate7
11-10-2022, 10:39 AM
Does anyone know if a bar in the district will be streaming the game Friday?

You need to slow down


Lol

Jarius
11-10-2022, 01:39 PM
You need to slow down


Lol

Huh? I would like to watch our game Friday but not sure which ones would be able to carry it since it's being streamed by barstool.

msstate7
11-10-2022, 01:40 PM
Huh? I would like to watch our game Friday but not sure which ones would be able to carry it since it's being streamed by barstool.

Hanging out in a bar. It was a joke.

Might have to watch it on your phone wherever you go

PGHBulldogBG
11-10-2022, 02:13 PM
Akron is going to be a really tough win on a nuetral court. If I recall they won the MAC last year and have some key players returning. This honestly might be a tougher game than Marquette

NCMSTFAN
11-10-2022, 03:13 PM
Huh? I would like to watch our game Friday but not sure which ones would be able to carry it since it's being streamed by barstool.

You may be able to download barstool app on your t.v. if you have a smart t.v. I plan on checking when I get home. But you can definitely watch it off your phone or computer

yjnkdawg
11-10-2022, 03:19 PM
Does anyone know if a bar in the district will be streaming the game Friday?

Don't know of any bars that will be streaming it, but these are the different ways you can watch it for free.

https://www.barstoolsports.com/download

Thick
11-10-2022, 07:33 PM
Why all the love for DJ??? That guy has not done one thing impressive to me in an SEC game. Never shoots consistently from anywhere on the court, and has never defended well. Maybe, he kills it this year, but up to this point, the best game I saw him play was vs MRA at Oxford HS when he was a sophomore?.he was dominant bc he could out athlete everyone on the court. Please be better!

NCMSTFAN
11-10-2022, 08:54 PM
Why all the love for DJ??? That guy has not done one thing impressive to me in an SEC game. Never shoots consistently from anywhere on the court, and has never defended well. Maybe, he kills it this year, but up to this point, the best game I saw him play was vs MRA at Oxford HS when he was a sophomore?.he was dominant bc he could out athlete everyone on the court. Please be better!

I can't disagree.. He has all the potential but hasn't shown it yet. I'm just hoping Jans can unlock something that Penny Hardaway or Howland couldn't. We really need his perimeter scoring this year

Coach34
11-10-2022, 09:35 PM
But we completely negated it by scheduling 2 swac schools

We arent making the NCAA Tourney anyway- so why does it matter?

msstate7
11-11-2022, 09:06 AM
State -6.5 tonight

NCMSTFAN
11-11-2022, 11:09 AM
State -6.5 tonight

It's gonna be a tough game. They played really good last season and beat a good SD State team earlier in the week. I'm hoping to see someone emerge as a scorer, we need a go to perimeter guy to help Tolu out

ZedFedder
11-11-2022, 01:35 PM
Is Barstool TV a paid subscription or is it free?

NCMSTFAN
11-11-2022, 01:37 PM
Is Barstool TV a paid subscription or is it free?

The website doesn't require a registration or anything so I'm assuming it's free

ZedFedder
11-11-2022, 03:34 PM
The website doesn't require a registration or anything so I'm assuming it's free

Thanks!