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[Coach34]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk has to purchase a new trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Coach 34 is on fire today!

[RezDog7]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk has to purchase a new trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

Leach retiring after this year would be the best thing that could happen for all involved.

You have to expect transfers at this point. I'm sure it will be our best though - RaRa.

[CadaverDawg]

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[TUSK]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk gets to upgrade to a new doublewide trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

Meth & Whiskey sales are goin' through da roof....

[CadaverDawg]

If #3 could be true, I'd be super excited

[Coach34]

Meth & Whiskey sales are goin' through da roof....

I'm so proud of you. Ray Wooten- who is still alive btw- would be also

[Leeshouldveflanked]

So Walley and who else in the portal?

[EdwardDrayton]

Oh man. Before long we’ll be at his book signings in the Campus Book Mart. ****

[LC Dawg]

In response to #1 I could see it. I don't think there's any chance a school would have gone against Slive in the same situation but I don't think Sankey commands the same respect.
I do think pissing Sankey off is a bad move though. Auburn ain't as big of a dog as they think they are.

[Coach34]

So Walley and who else in the portal?

rhymes with Hulu

[Lord McBuckethead]

Didn?t Walley pretty much transfer after last years game with Bama?

[Lord McBuckethead]

What could Sankey do?

[Quaoarsking]

Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

Isn't he pretty well-liked? I'll take the compliment. :cool:

[RezDog7]

rhymes with Hulu

Well, I'd hate to lose him but tbh, he's dropped as many as his caught sooo.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

rhymes with Hulu
Ole Miss gonna be loaded next year at WR

[Coach34]

Isn't he pretty well-liked? I'll take the compliment. :cool:

I was actually giving Bart some shit on that one. But go ahead and enjoy

[EdwardDrayton]

rhymes with Hulu

There’s just not enough cap space to keep him and Will both.

[parabrave]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk has to purchase a new trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

What the hell was in that box of wine. I thought Black Sails Dog and Whisky Pirate are the one and the same.

[Matt3467]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk has to purchase a new trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

#3 Sounds like more of a dig than a rumor.

[DownwardDawg]

What could Sankey do?

Not a damn thing. And I've been saying Freeze to Auburn for a year. It's a given.

[Coach34]

What the hell was in that box of wine. I thought Black Sails Dog and Whisky Pirate are the one and the same.

They probably are. I just dont have that access anymore. They/them will have to answer that question.

[Goldendawg]

#8 - Do live close to Prentiss Co, when not spending more of my retired time in Vegas with my MSU SR son, but think I can find time for con$ulting duties with Dr. Keenum. I sometimes think I know a little about MSU sports from observations of 55 years since age 8 or so. I have met Dr. Keenum but I haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn recently to improve observations! Hail State!

[PikeDawg15]

Tulu gonna be in crimson need season.

Rogers in black and gold

Walley in camoflauge

[Maroonthirteen]

Isn't he pretty well-liked? I'll take the compliment. :cool:

No buying it. Your post don't mention Nanih Waiya. **

[Bothrops]

If #3 could be true, I'd be super excited

If we lose the EB, I think Leach may have to get out. His job rides on that game, imo.

[Bothrops]

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We'd be insane to lose him.

[Maroonthirteen]

We'd be insane to lose him.

Is it us or him? Didn't we have to dig deep in the pockets last off season to keep him?

[msstate7]

Kiffin gonna use tulu correctly

[Coursesuper]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk has to purchase a new trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

So if Leach goes, then where do we turn?

[viverlibre]

So if Leach goes, then where do we turn?

Primetime baby!

[Santiago]

Primetime baby!

I wonder how many that complain about the air raid realize Prime asked Leach for names for his OC, and hired an air raid coach from Washington State.
Prime is not an X and O coach.
But in at least this respect, hiring prime would be basically we bring the Wazzou guy from Jackson State here and keep running it.

[viverlibre]

I wonder how many that complain about the air raid realize Prime asked Leach for names for his OC, and hired an air raid coach from Washington State.
Prime is not an X and O coach.
But in at least this respect, hiring prime would be basically we bring the Wazzou guy from Jackson State here and keep running it.

There are air raid coaches who incorporate a mobile QB. In fact, some have advised Leach that he needs to do the same.

[Johnson85]

Well, I'd hate to lose him but tbh, he's dropped as many as his caught sooo.

Too good of a weapon to not be able to use him. That's a failure on leach there. SOmebody will take him and give him the ball on sweeps, reverses, and target him knowing that his hands aren't the best because they understand his explosiveness.

[TrapGame]

So if Leach goes, then where do we turn?

Matt Rhule and Deion Sanders would be my first two calls. I'd ask them if they are interested in the job and if not what can I do to change that.

[Thick]

Easy C34, I?m still old school brother!

[Johnson85]

So if Leach goes, then where do we turn?

Really would need to find a coach that runs a version of the air raid (or has an OC that will be running a version of the air raid). I know you can retool a roster quickly with the portal, I just dont' think we can afford to have a bad transition right now. NIL may calm down in a few years and give us a better chance to compete (or may stay the way it is and make it impossible), but really not the time to go through a rebuild if we can avoid it.

[R2Dawg]

I wonder how many that complain about the air raid realize Prime asked Leach for names for his OC, and hired an air raid coach from Washington State.
Prime is not an X and O coach.
But in at least this respect, hiring prime would be basically we bring the Wazzou guy from Jackson State here and keep running it.

No one is running that 90s version of air raid but Leach. I'll take some Heupel offense.

Deion might be risky but I think we'd get some recruits.

[Desoto1967]

Would a Spurrier Jr. offense be any different from what is Leach is doing now?

[parabrave]

Would a Spurrier Jr. offense be any different from what is Leach is doing now?

And how well are our receivers doing? No way.

[Goldendawg]

Would a Spurrier Jr. offense be any different from what is Leach is doing now?

Unless Spurrier is being held back in areas by Leach, we are still having issues with WR rotation as a whole, short arms, disappearing acts during some games, need for chair removal, drops.

[confucius say]

Don't complain about losing players if you're not donating to The Bulldog Initiative.

[Johnson85]

No one is running that 90s version of air raid but Leach. I'll take some Heupel offense.

Deion might be risky but I think we'd get some recruits.

People are greatly overestimating the influence Deion would have on recruiting. Recruits aren't going to ignore NIL because they want to play for Deion. Deion might be the deciding factor with NIL deals are close, but if we hired Deion we'd still be behind in recruiting but we'd be reliant on coordinators for x's and o's. That seems extremely dangerous to me.

[yjnkdawg]

What could Sankey do?

He can't prevent Auburn from hiring Freeze but if the SEC Office is against Freeze coming back in the SEC, then that is a dumb move on Auburn's part if they go ahead and hire Freeze. Saban wasn't going to go against the SEC Office. You don't want to upset or be on the bad side of the SEC Office if you are a member school of the SEC. That's pure stupidity.

[CaptainObvious]

The League Office has a few important roles:

Collect the checks
Dispurse the checks.
Lobby for Bowls for its members
Oversee the SEC Chempionship sports.

Hiring and Firing Head Football Coaches or admonishing Schools for hiring against their preferences isn?t one of them.

All the Schools have certain autonomy to staff all of their departments.

[Johnson85]

Not a damn thing. And I've been saying Freeze to Auburn for a year. It's a given.

He can do some things, or at least he can if he has the same level of support as Slive did. But they mostly involve "abusing" discretion that the conference has. Before paying recruits moved above the table, you were taking a huge risk tweaking the SEC office because they helped protect cheaters. Cam Newton doesn't play after everything becomes public if the SEC doesn't have Auburn's back. We got hammered for Will Redmond because we made a stink about Cam. Ole Miss was protected because while they weren't a blue blood, they were still a member of the SEC; and maybe partly because the SEC didn't want the Freeze stuff coming out either. Now though, basically they influence bowl selections and how roughly you get treated with fines for stuff like criticizing officials, maybe some scheduling. Hard to consistently punish somebody for that, but you can maek sure the swing cases go against them.

But while they can't do anything to Auburn per se, they can tell Freeze's agent that if Auburn is going to hire him, they are going to have to open back up the investigation into who those escorts were for, and then it just becomes a matter of whether Freeze thinks all of that will look too bad for the SEC for them to bring it up, or whether he'd rather just keep coaching outside of the SEC and not open that can of worms.

I personally don't think the SEC will go to the mat to keep Freeze out and that Auburn is not going to be scared off. That said, I'm not sure Freeze wants to come back to the SEC; if he hasn't cleaned up his act, then he may not want to be under that microscope again.

[Bothrops]

Is it us or him? Didn't we have to dig deep in the pockets last off season to keep him?

He's the most valuable player on the team, imo. Whatever it takes.

[Homedawg]

People are greatly overestimating the influence Deion would have on recruiting. Recruits aren't going to ignore NIL because they want to play for Deion. Deion might be the deciding factor with NIL deals are close, but if we hired Deion we'd still be behind in recruiting but we'd be reliant on coordinators for x's and o's. That seems extremely dangerous to me.

This ^^^

[viverlibre]

People are greatly overestimating the influence Deion would have on recruiting. Recruits aren't going to ignore NIL because they want to play for Deion. Deion might be the deciding factor with NIL deals are close, but if we hired Deion we'd still be behind in recruiting but we'd be reliant on coordinators for x's and o's. That seems extremely dangerous to me.

If Deion came to MSU, NIL money would roll in.

[MaroonFlounder]

Just passing along some talk I hear from people I know that talk to important people- take it with a grain of salt:

1. Freezus to Auburn has legs and really could happen. Auburn gonna tell Sankey to get ****ed. Yesterday's upset just gave them more resolve

2. We have 1 or more WR's and a QB that will hit the portal

3. Leach returning next season is not a given. Between NIL, a new AD, and SEC defenses- he will do some soul searching.

4. Baseball coaches are very excited after the Fall.

5. ScoobaDawg is considering transitioning and goes by They/Them

6. Tusk has to purchase a new trailer after Saturday night

7. Thick has a Pride flag flying at his house now

8. GoldenDawg is actually Mark Keenum

9. Tater is actually Mark Keenum

10. Quaoarsking is Bart Gregory

I think the WR that will transfer is Zavian Thomas. There's a reason he was inactive Sat night. He does not like Leach. If you watch the video about Leach going around to his team before the game to make eye contact and shake hands, Thomas doesn't acknowledge him. He keeps his head down in his phone.

All is not well between Leach and this receiver group. See: taking up The folding chairs Sat night and throwing them down

[MaroonFlounder]

Well, I'd hate to lose him but tbh, he's dropped as many as his caught sooo.

Losing Tulu would hurt more in the return specialist role, but I have no doubt that another team would put him in the slot and he would explode and be All-everything.

[WhiskeyPirate]

I think the WR that will transfer is Zavian Thomas. There's a reason he was inactive Sat night. He does not like Leach. If you watch the video about Leach going around to his team before the game to make eye contact and shake hands, Thomas doesn't acknowledge him. He keeps his head down in his phone.

All is not well between Leach and this receiver group. See: taking up The folding chairs Sat night and throwing them down

Major controversy, big time major

[CaptainObvious]

Well either our WRs are turrible route runners, don?t know where they are supposed to go to find green space, or are just plain and simply lazy.

I would prefer we settle on a 6 guy rotation, have 10 on the roster each year, and make this thing work.

[RezDog7]

I think the WR that will transfer is Zavian Thomas. There's a reason he was inactive Sat night. He does not like Leach. If you watch the video about Leach going around to his team before the game to make eye contact and shake hands, Thomas doesn't acknowledge him. He keeps his head down in his phone.

All is not well between Leach and this receiver group. See: taking up The folding chairs Sat night and throwing them down

So a kid that Leach signed last year doesn't like Leach. Maybe so, but maybe not.

[memsu06]

I think the WR that will transfer is Zavian Thomas. There's a reason he was inactive Sat night. He does not like Leach. If you watch the video about Leach going around to his team before the game to make eye contact and shake hands, Thomas doesn't acknowledge him. He keeps his head down in his phone.

All is not well between Leach and this receiver group. See: taking up The folding chairs Sat night and throwing them down

If the receivers don't want to be there then let them go. I want receivers that want to play for Mike Leach.

That's just how it is. I want them to catch the damn ball when it hits them in the hands. We've been missing that lately. Although Will's accuracy seems to have taken a few steps back this year, but is it him or the receivers?

Maybe if they work harder to get open then Will will pass to them more.

[EdwardDrayton]

Don't complain about losing players if you're not donating to The Bulldog Initiative.

Can we complain about not losing players that we are paying for?!!? ****

[Goldendawg]

I think the WR that will transfer is Zavian Thomas. There's a reason he was inactive Sat night. He does not like Leach. If you watch the video about Leach going around to his team before the game to make eye contact and shake hands, Thomas doesn't acknowledge him. He keeps his head down in his phone.

All is not well between Leach and this receiver group. See: taking up The folding chairs Sat night and throwing them down

Genespage subscriber told me at game Z was suspended for two games, thus Tulu fielding punts against AU.

[Goldendawg]

If the receivers don't want to be there then let them go. I want receivers that want to play for Mike Leach.

That's just how it is. I want them to catch the damn ball when it hits them in the hands. We've been missing that lately. Although Will's accuracy seems to have taken a few steps back this year, but is it him or the receivers?

Maybe if they work harder to get open then Will will pass to them more.

I watched the replay of the game last night. OT's whiffing all night. Jones and Dolla made no difference. Did Will no favors, in addition to his sometimes holding ball too long and soft receivers disappearing. Good receivers or those that think they are good like to go deep and be targeted. Expect big portal exit in our WR room. JMO.

[The Federalist Engineer]

#3 Sounds like more of a dig than a rumor.

I'll reveal my total ignorance on this topic.

Has the MSU Press ever asked Leach about getting a mobile QB that can throw 50 passes too. A wrinkle that dumb fans think is necessary to succeed in the SEC.

Cause I lived in Norman OK at the time, Leach actually brought Josh Heupel to Oklahoma. Nowadays, Josh looks like Jabba the Fulmer. But at Oklahoma, he was a Will Rodgers body-type clone. Sooner won a NC with Heupel and he nearly won a Heisman in 2000. Zero mobility, not a huge arm, and a clever play maker. But successful and a National Champion.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/2014/11/22/NOKL/ghnewsok-OK-5369637-3a646120.jpeg

His QBs at TTU were also similar guys. They did throw for a lot of yards but Big 12 defenses were trash in that era. I guess that success has made Leach comfortable with his choices. Mahomes and Mayfield never played for Leach, they were Kingsbury kids.

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/sports/nfl/2019/09/25/qbs-who-played-college-under-mike-leach-how-theyve-fared-nfl/2441762001/

[viverlibre]

I'll reveal my total ignorance on this topic.

Has the MSU Press ever asked Leach about getting a mobile QB that can throw 50 passes too. A wrinkle that dumb fans think is necessary to succeed in the SEC.

Cause I lived in Norman OK at the time, Leach actually brought Josh Heupel to Oklahoma. Nowadays, Josh looks like Jabba the Fulmer. But at Oklahoma, he was a Will Rodgers body-type clone. Sooner won a NC with Heupel and he nearly won a Heisman in 2000. Zero mobility, not a huge arm, and a clever play maker. But successful and a National Champion.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/2014/11/22/NOKL/ghnewsok-OK-5369637-3a646120.jpeg

His QBs at TTU were also similar guys. They did throw for a lot of yards but Big 12 defenses were trash in that era. I guess that success has made Leach comfortable with his choices. Mahomes and Mayfield never played for Leach, they were Kingsbury kids.

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/sports/nfl/2019/09/25/qbs-who-played-college-under-mike-leach-how-theyve-fared-nfl/2441762001/

I don't know if any stats are available, but I'd wager the talent gap between OU and it's main competitors was much less than the gap between us and LSU, Bama, UGA, etc. Additionally I wager top defenses currently in the SEC are light years ahead of what OU faced in those days. It's about adding one more option that the D has to be concerned with. Everything changes and adapts, look at Heupel, he has a mobile QB. In short, everything works until is doesn't.

[confucius say]

Can we complain about not losing players that we are paying for?!!? ****

Depends on how much we're paying them

[The Federalist Engineer]

I don't know if any stats are available, but I'd wager the talent gap between OU and it's main competitors was much less than the gap between us and LSU, Bama, UGA, etc. Additionally I wager top defenses currently in the SEC are light years ahead of what OU faced in those days. It's about adding one more option that the D has to be concerned with. Everything changes and adapts, look at Heupel, he has a mobile QB. In short, everything works until is doesn't.

Yeah, to me it seems that Leach is still playing like it's 1999. With all his coaching tree (Kingsbury) and his old QBs (Heupel as you point out) fully evolved.

OU in the late 90's was recruiting good players, they had no talent gap with the best teams in the nation in 1999. Just mis-allocated players. They were extremely better than most teams in their conference.

Also, yes. The defenses of the SEC are and were far better. Big 12 football was transitioning to flag football tacking at this time.

[Goldendawg]

Yeah, to me it seems that Leach is still playing like it's 1999. With all his coaching tree (Kingsbury) and his old QBs (Heupel as you point out) fully evolved.

OU in the late 90's was recruiting good players, they had no talent gap with the best teams in the nation in 1999. Just mis-allocated players. They were extremely better than most teams in their conference.

Also, yes. The defenses of the SEC are and were far better. Big 12 football was transitioning to flag football tacking at this time.

And a lot of us sure aren't partying "Like It's 1999", with his 2nd half disappearing acts in games on offense.

[Jarius]

The League Office has a few important roles:

Collect the checks
Dispurse the checks.
Lobby for Bowls for its members
Oversee the SEC Chempionship sports.

Hiring and Firing Head Football Coaches or admonishing Schools for hiring against their preferences isn?t one of them.

All the Schools have certain autonomy to staff all of their departments.

If that were the case Freeze would already be back in the SEC. He’s still coaching at Liberty for a reason, and it’s not because that’s his dream job. If you think going against what Greg Sankey directly tells you to do is a good idea for your university, you won’t be in charge of that university’s decision making for very long. That’s a good way to get your ass thrown to the wolves. If Nick Saban can’t hire you, you are unhirable. Period.

[PikeDawg15]

If that were the case Freeze would already be back in the SEC. He’s still coaching at Liberty for a reason, and it’s not because that’s his dream job. If you think going against what Greg Sankey directly tells you to do is a good idea for your university, you won’t be in charge of that university’s decision making for very long. That’s a good way to get your ass thrown to the wolves. If Nick Saban can’t hire you, you are unhirable. Period.

I agree but

If there was ever a school in the Country that would hire Freeze at the power 5 level

It would be 100% Auburn

Auburn is the most desperate school in America rn, they are going to pay some coach between 9-10 million per year to come there, they arent settling.

[DownwardDawg]

I agree but

If there was ever a school in the Country that would hire Freeze at the power 5 level

It would be 100% Auburn

Auburn is the most desperate school in America rn, they are going to pay some coach between 9-10 million per year to come there, they arent settling.

This 100%. Auburn will hire who they want to hire. They don't care. It's auburn.
And Sankey didn't tell Saban he couldn't hire freeze. Saban would have melted him with his laser eyes. Sankey told him the whole Freeze backstory and Saban changed his mind. (Pure speculation on my part)

[Ifyouonlyknew]

rhymes with Hulu

This Is incorrect

[DEDawg]

This Is incorrect

Is the new world of college football this open? Maybe it is but I cant imagine coaches have any idea who is going to transfer that is a starter. You would think if you are a starting player you would keep your mouth shut until season is over. I just cant see how (if true) Tulu would tell the coaching staff with 3 games left he is going to transfer after this season and still expect to play.

[Pancho]

Tulu is being paid well currently and I'm not sure he'd get a better NIL deal(cough cough) anywhere else.

[WhiskeyPirate]

This Is incorrect

Of course

[BeardoMSU]

This Is incorrect

You don't say, lol...

[PikeDawg15]

I don't know if any stats are available, but I'd wager the talent gap between OU and it's main competitors was much less than the gap between us and LSU, Bama, UGA, etc. Additionally I wager top defenses currently in the SEC are light years ahead of what OU faced in those days. It's about adding one more option that the D has to be concerned with. Everything changes and adapts, look at Heupel, he has a mobile QB. In short, everything works until is doesn't.

So if you go by 247 and believe that the real talent is close to what they rate it


While Leach was at Texas Tech, there was a bigger talent gap between texas tech and Oklahoma and texas than there is between Miss St and Alabama or LSU

Texas tech back then recruited between #35 and #40 every year and oklahoma and texas have always been inside the top 10 recruiting rankings between 7-10

Mississippi State however has been between #20 and #25 in recruiting ranking for the majority of the past decade while alabama and LSU usually are in the top 5

At washington state is was way worse for leach

While Leach was there, they recruited in the 60's and Washington was consistently in the top 15 recruiting classes and oregon and usc were in the top 10

[TUSK]

This 100%. Auburn will hire who they want to hire. They don't care. It's auburn.
And Sankey didn't tell Saban he couldn't hire freeze. Saban would have melted him with his laser eyes. Sankey told him the whole Freeze backstory and Saban changed his mind. (Pure speculation on my part)

yep.

[Commercecomet24]

I said this in the other thread but tulu says "this s*** about me leaving is total bs". Not opinion but straight from horses mouth.

[Coach34]

This Is incorrect

You said the same thing when I said I was hearing Polk was going to enter the draft....It may or may not end up being true, but the rumor is out there.

[WhiskeyPirate]

The rumor is out there because you started it

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You said the same thing when I said I was hearing Polk was going to enter the draft....It may or may not end up being true, but the rumor is out there.

Me talking about Polk was my prediction/guess. This isn’t a guess. If you can think of the time I was wrong it means there’s not many. This same rumor has been out here for the last 2 years too.

[Cowbell]

You said the same thing when I said I was hearing Polk was going to enter the draft....It may or may not end up being true, but the rumor is out there.

Rumor has it that leach is putting in more run plays too***

[yjnkdawg]

This 100%. Auburn will hire who they want to hire. They don't care. It's auburn.
And Sankey didn't tell Saban he couldn't hire freeze. Saban would have melted him with his laser eyes. Sankey told him the whole Freeze backstory and Saban changed his mind. (Pure speculation on my part)

The SEC Office can't tell a school they can't hire a certain coach, but they can tell them it would not be in your best interest as a member of the SEC if you do. If you are a member of the SEC you don't want to make the SEC Office upset or mad as I have stated in other threads. I don't think Auburn is that stupid that they would go against the SEC Office's wishes. Saban didn't want to buck the SEC or make them mad.

[Cloak]

You said the same thing when I said I was hearing Polk was going to enter the draft....It may or may not end up being true, but the rumor is out there.

If IYOK makes a statement, it's as close to a fact as it gets on a message board.

[yjnkdawg]

The League Office has a few important roles:

Collect the checks
Dispurse the checks.
Lobby for Bowls for its members
Oversee the SEC Chempionship sports.

Hiring and Firing Head Football Coaches or admonishing Schools for hiring against their preferences isn?t one of them.

All the Schools have certain autonomy to staff all of their departments.

There is nothing wrong with the SEC Office telling a school that if you hire so and so it is not in the best interest in your being a member of the SEC. The SEC Office can help a member school or they can treat them as a stepchild if they hired somebody that the SEC had problems with before and they did not want that coach back in the SEC.

[Coach34]

The rumor is out there because you started it

This thread has 19K views because of my track record over the last 18 years. I didnt start the rumor- I just posted it. I hope the guy stays and remains a weapon for us. Charlie and crew are doing a great job now with our resources. But you cant blame other schools for making inquiries and making offers. CC24 has some close contact and thats good news. But rumors start for a reason.

***edited to add***- sometimes kids and parents dont want to admit to people they know that they are basically up for being bought and paid for. That they are willing to be sold to the highest bidder. Keep that in mind about athletes today.

[Coach34]

If IYOK makes a statement, it's as close to a fact as it gets on a message board.

My history aint bad over the 18 years either and why this thread has 19K views. IYOK is a very good State poster. Top notch. But he said Polk wasnt leaving last year after I posted it and he got burned on it. It happens. Rumors turn out to be BS, things change on a dime, all that crap. It is what it is. But we still have State fans that believe Stands sat Moultrie for 3 games for a knee problem a week after I posted he failed another drug test. Gullible people will soak up the spin because they want to believe it

[Commercecomet24]

This thread has 19K views because of my track record over the last 18 years. I didnt start the rumor- I just posted it. I hope the guy stays and remains a weapon for us. Charlie and crew are doing a great job now with our resources. But you cant blame other schools for making inquiries and making offers. CC24 has some close contact and thats good news. But rumors start for a reason.

***edited to add***- sometimes kids and parents dont want to admit to people they know that they are basically up for being bought and paid for. That they are willing to be sold to the highest bidder. Keep that in mind about athletes today.

You dang skippy about that being sold to the highest bidder stuff! It's always been that way but it's way worse now!

[EdwardDrayton]

This thread has 19K views because of my track record over the last 18 years. I didnt start the rumor- I just posted it. I hope the guy stays and remains a weapon for us. Charlie and crew are doing a great job now with our resources. But you cant blame other schools for making inquiries and making offers. CC24 has some close contact and thats good news. But rumors start for a reason.

***edited to add***- sometimes kids and parents dont want to admit to people they know that they are basically up for being bought and paid for. That they are willing to be sold to the highest bidder. Keep that in mind about athletes today.

Well, there’s another word for what that is and it’s not ‘athlete’.

[Hot Rock]

Just one WR and QB? In this day and age, that's pretty darn good. I would expect that a lot. We take lots of WR's and only so many play.

QB's? If they expect a starting spot, they will most likely have to drop out of P5. Will would be crazy to leave for another team unless he loses his starting gig. There might be some P5 teams give them a scholarship to have a chance at an open spot but nothing guaranteed with no game tape.

[FISHDAWG]

]There is nothing wrong with the SEC Office telling a school that if you hire [/B]so and so it is not in the best interest in your being a member of the SEC. The SEC Office can help a member school or they can treat them as a stepchild if they hired somebody that the SEC had problems with before and they did not want that coach back in the SEC.

maybe, maybe not ... depends on if a smart lawyer can prove a defamation suit

[Johnson85]

Well, there’s another word for what that is and it’s not ‘athlete’.

Employee?

[Commercecomet24]

Well, there’s another word for what that is and it’s not ‘athlete’.

Rep Given!

[Tater]

I heard a rumor that we're gonna beat the **** outta Georgia.

- Message sent from Engineering Row while taking a walk through the greatest college campus in America

I can neither confirm nor deny the Kennum allegations at this time.

[yjnkdawg]

Speaking of IYOK, he doesn't post info on this board based on rumors, or to get attention. Yeah, things can change but when he posts or has posted something it is based upon what the situation is currently, or was at the time and not on some rumor. Over the years I think he has posted the most viable and accurate info on this board concerning our football program.

[Cloak]

Speaking of IYOK, he doesn't post info on this board based on rumors, or to get attention. Yeah, things can change but when he posts or has posted something it is based upon what the situation is currently, or was at the time and not on some rumor. Over the years I think he has posted the most viable and accurate info on this board concerning our football program.

Completely agree. IYOK is the #1 most reliable on this site, and it's not very close.

[99jc]

Completely agree. IYOK is the #1 most reliable on this site, and it's not very close.

NAH I GO WITH BERT STARE

[parabrave]

Speaking of IYOK, he doesn't post info on this board based on rumors, or to get attention. Yeah, things can change but when he posts or has posted something it is based upon what the situation is currently, or was at the time and not on some rumor. Over the years I think he has posted the most viable and accurate info on this board concerning our football program.

He may be posting on Aubbie websites now.

[DownwardDawg]

He may be posting on Aubbie websites now.

I thought he works for ESPN now?

[TrapGame]

He may be posting on Aubbie websites now.

Of course that's who it is. I thought it was obvious by now.

[TUSK]

BAMMERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!