Sunday Morning QB- Same ol Same ol Edition

[Coach34]

1. Had to be up early to go watch the kid play his last game of the football season. Moved him from DE on D to LB. No. Put that kid's hand back on the ground where it belongs. After hit the market for some 20 oz ribeyes and some Conecuh sausage. He may be average at LB but he is gonna eat well while we watch football.

2. My 2nd favorite team played well yesterday and beat previously undefeated Mississippi handily. They showed how to #RTGDF. 252 rushing yards. Win the LOS- win games. Everybody wants to talk about how their QB doesnt throw it that well. Hmmmmm. They are 6-2 and tied for the lead in the West. Great shot at 9 wins this season.

3. I've been told here over and over that Leach's offense is our only shot to beat a team like Bama. Well, in 3 games vs Bama- 12 Q's- Leach has scored 15 total points with 6 of them coming on the last play of the blowout. If you really think this gimmick offense is ever going to beat a good team- I'm not sure what to tell you. It's not. Coming in to the game, A&M score 20 on Bama. Tenn 52 points. UPig with their "one-dimensional" QB put up 26 points. The last 3 weeks those teams put up more points against Bama than Leach has in 3 games.

4. That being said- the 1st Q saw Leach with probably his best playcalling at State. Bama went with a light box and 6 DB's. We ran the damn ball against it like we are supposed to and had some success. We would move the ball but then do something dumb like punt on 4th and 6 inches...or not attempt an easy FG to take the lead and get some Mo but go for and not make it. Throwing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 instead of running the ball and getting it. The offense looks so much better and is much more successful when it has some semblance of balance. Leach kept getting put in short yardage situations for 3rd down and it throws him off. He doesnt want to run and doesnt call it.

5. Games against future NFL players on D shows you why Rogers is not likely to be an NFL QB. Kentucky and now Bama have played us tough and physical in the Secondary much like it is in the NFL. We have seen the results of this. An offense that has scored 16 points the last 2 games total. Tulu's drop was bad but some of the passes you guys are calling "drops" were actually DB's separating the ball from the WR. They were blowing our ass up when the ball was getting there. When you throw it 60 times- there will always be drops or DB's hammering WR's at the moment of catch. Not going to change in an offense that doesnt stretch the field.

6. Lot of respect for Marks. He was getting hit but he kept coming back. Got to appreciate the toughness he showed.

7. Misscardi strikes again. Leach doesnt take the easy FG in the 1st Q which would have only been a 32 yard FG which could have given out kicker and team some confidence. Then runs him out there for a 43 yarder that he misses. The kicking game remains a problem under Leach. It's mental and looks like the approach needs to change.

8. Nice job by the defense. We made some adjustments and it worked. Really gave Bama some fits. Also shows we have the talent to compete. We do lack depth on the DL tho and havent recruited a DUDE there lately. Arnett didnt blitz every 3rd down- nice job. Brought Jett with pressure but dropped other guys- rushing 4....alot like Kentucky did to us. Mixed it up well altho rushing 3 to give their QB all day didnt work out too well. Cant complain about the D tho. They played pretty well holding Bama to 290 yards total.

9. Stop with the officials cost us the game. That's ridiculous. People flop and get calls all over the place every Sat and Sun.

10. We likely beat Auburn with 2 week to prepare and get healthier. We wont beat Georgia. We'll beat the doorknob team. So that has us at 7 wins going into the Egg Bowl. Prepare yourselves for 3 straight and 7-5. That will probably earn us a lovely trip to Birmingham to play in the TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl. A B'ham bowl with 18 starters returning. That's not a successful season in my opinion. If you arent pushing for a big bowl with 18 starters returning- you arent recruiting very well or coaching it well.

[starkvegasdawg]

The officials probably didn't cost us the game, but they sure had a hand in its outcome. Blatant holds, at least two no face mask calls...one of which broke Woody's nose, phantom roughing the passer. All major penalties that can alter the result of a drive and amount of points scored or not scored. As I said in another post, if the game is just called fairly it's probably a 10-14 point loss. If it's called fairly and we don't make those boneheaded mistakes it's probably a 3-5 point loss and maybe we have a chance to squeak it out. A competitive game the mindset of the players is completely different.

I will say this. They didn't go in there scared of the name on the uniform even if Leach said they did. They came to play and for that I applaud them. Especially after the events of this past week.

[lastmajordog]

I really liked and appreciated the last stand by the def.......kept it to a fg. That is the kind of stuff I look for, tough and didn’t quit....Ty!......now for receivers that can catch in traffic.

[parabrave]

The main reason most of us are pissed is not that we lost. Its the way we did. I'll give it to the defense they nutted up in the 2nd half and played great/ Special shout out to number 12 He made some great plays. The offense on the other hand was total incompetence. As for #4 toy are correct/ The play selection was working great. Nice runs and we were marching down the field and we should've gone for the FG. After that we couldn't catch. Run a proper route. Block by both the Line and RBs, whiff city last night. I'm not going to say throw the ball deep because when he did our guys dropped the ball. The special teams another shanked punt, Muffed punt and missed FG. And listening to Leach say how the guys were walking around like the boogeyman walks around with a Bama jersey on. Why did we even show up then. Well Shit Leach we pat you over 5 million a year to dispel that notion. Go watch Hoosiers. It's your job to motivate them.

[Leroy Jenkins]

You are not going to beat a Saban coached team without at least the threat of a mobile QB. Maybe you can play them close if they give you four turnovers like they did vs aTm, or if they have complete brain-farts like touching a downed put vs UT. The only exception would be if you can match them athlete-to-athlete like UGA and that ain't happening at too many places. Even with all that you really have to be the home team.

[R2Dawg]

Pretty spot on 34.

Not getting any real dudes on DL is concerning to me. This is one key that has made MSU have the success we have the past 12 years. That concerns me going forward. We gotta get some in here.

I'm out of words on the Leach approach. He does enough good at times to give me hope (first quarter) but in the end he always delivers sucktastically.

[Commercecomet24]

C34 did you notice how wide we split our wrs and how we had some stack sets with them last night? Maybe leach is making some tweaks.

[dawgday166]

C34 did you notice how wide we split our wrs and how we had some stack sets with them last night? Maybe leach is making some tweaks.

I believe he will make some. Leach ain't dumb and he's gotta see what Heupel is doing too. He ain't got the athletes or mobile QB Heupel does tho.

[schddog72]

The main reason most of us are pissed is not that we lost. Its the way we did. I'll give it to the defense they nutted up in the 2nd half and played great/ Special shout out to number 12 He made some great plays. The offense on the other hand was total incompetence. As for #4 toy are correct/ The play selection was working great. Nice runs and we were marching down the field and we should've gone for the FG. After that we couldn't catch. Run a proper route. Block by both the Line and RBs, whiff city last night. I'm not going to say throw the ball deep because when he did our guys dropped the ball. The special teams another shanked punt, Muffed punt and missed FG. And listening to Leach say how the guys were walking around like the boogeyman walks around with a Bama jersey on. Why did we even show up then. Well Shit Leach we pat you over 5 million a year to dispel that notion. Go watch Hoosiers. It's your job to motivate them.

True confession - I quit watching when the score hit 14-0 with the zebras taking control and the kicking game manifesting its usual ineptitude, and after the receivers all ran and hid to keep from getting thrown at. But, two things jumped out at me during the about 18 minutes I watched:

1. Our receivers were absolutely totally intimidated and scared sh*tless; Bama's DB's were in their heads from the get-go. Leach was absolutely right as far as the receivers go; they were scared to death of those red shirts. Kudos to the Defense from growing a pair and competing, and so too the O-line to the extent they could.

2. The talent level of Bama's DB's far, far exceeds the talent level of our WR group. Aside from our receivers being scared to death, Bama's DB's are vastly more talented than our receivers. They also had our receivers hearing footsteps all night long.

[Commercecomet24]

I believe he will make some. Leach ain't dumb and he's gotta see what Heupel is doing too. He ain't got the athletes or mobile QB Heupel does tho.

Agree on all.

[basedog]

1. Had to be up early to go watch the kid play his last game of the football season. Moved him from DE on D to LB. No. Put that kid's hand back on the ground where it belongs. After hit the market for some 20 oz ribeyes and some Conecuh sausage. He may be average at LB but he is gonna eat well while we watch football.

2. My 2nd favorite team played well yesterday and beat previously undefeated Mississippi handily. They showed how to #RTGDF. 252 rushing yards. Win the LOS- win games. Everybody wants to talk about how their QB doesnt throw it that well. Hmmmmm. They are 6-2 and tied for the lead in the West. Great shot at 9 wins this season.

3. I've been told here over and over that Leach's offense is our only shot to beat a team like Bama. Well, in 3 games vs Bama- 12 Q's- Leach has scored 15 total points with 6 of them coming on the last play of the blowout. If you really think this gimmick offense is ever going to beat a good team- I'm not sure what to tell you. It's not. Coming in to the game, A&M score 20 on Bama. Tenn 52 points. UPig with their "one-dimensional" QB put up 26 points. The last 3 weeks those teams put up more points against Bama than Leach has in 3 games.

4. That being said- the 1st Q saw Leach with probably his best playcalling at State. Bama went with a light box and 6 DB's. We ran the damn ball against it like we are supposed to and had some success. We would move the ball but then do something dumb like punt on 4th and 6 inches...or not attempt an easy FG to take the lead and get some Mo but go for and not make it. Throwing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 instead of running the ball and getting it. The offense looks so much better and is much more successful when it has some semblance of balance. Leach kept getting put in short yardage situations for 3rd down and it throws him off. He doesnt want to run and doesnt call it.

5. Games against future NFL players on D shows you why Rogers is not likely to be an NFL QB. Kentucky and now Bama have played us tough and physical in the Secondary much like it is in the NFL. We have seen the results of this. An offense that has scored 16 points the last 2 games total. Tulu's drop was bad but some of the passes you guys are calling "drops" were actually DB's separating the ball from the WR. They were blowing our ass up when the ball was getting there. When you throw it 60 times- there will always be drops or DB's hammering WR's at the moment of catch. Not going to change in an offense that doesnt stretch the field.

6. Lot of respect for Marks. He was getting hit but he kept coming back. Got to appreciate the toughness he showed.

7. Misscardi strikes again. Leach doesnt take the easy FG in the 1st Q which would have only been a 32 yard FG which could have given out kicker and team some confidence. Then runs him out there for a 43 yarder that he misses. The kicking game remains a problem under Leach. It's mental and looks like the approach needs to change.

8. Nice job by the defense. We made some adjustments and it worked. Really gave Bama some fits. Also shows we have the talent to compete. We do lack depth on the DL tho and havent recruited a DUDE there lately. Arnett didnt blitz every 3rd down- nice job. Brought Jett with pressure but dropped other guys- rushing 4....alot like Kentucky did to us. Mixed it up well altho rushing 3 to give their QB all day didnt work out too well. Cant complain about the D tho. They played pretty well holding Bama to 290 yards total.

9. Stop with the officials cost us the game. That's ridiculous. People flop and get calls all over the place every Sat and Sun.

10. We likely beat Auburn with 2 week to prepare and get healthier. We wont beat Georgia. We'll beat the doorknob team. So that has us at 7 wins going into the Egg Bowl. Prepare yourselves for 3 straight and 7-5. That will probably earn us a lovely trip to Birmingham to play in the TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl. A B'ham bowl with 18 starters returning. That's not a successful season in my opinion. If you arent pushing for a big bowl with 18 starters returning- you arent recruiting very well or coaching it well.

C34, You nailed it! I agree with everything you said. Couple side note, our receivers our the softest and least talented group on our team. To be a passing team and not one break away play maker is just sick!

Second, I’m not sure who our special team coach is but we are really bad in all aspects of “special team”.

7-5 is about right.

[Coach34]

C34 did you notice how wide we split our wrs and how we had some stack sets with them last night? Maybe leach is making some tweaks.

I did notice that. Glad to see us noticing others progress. Rogers arm strength hampers that strategy a little but we can get by with it. We ran a Trey set to the field on the right once and I remember thinking Rogers would have to have a howitzer to get it to the outside WR from there on any route down the field. That said I like it. Stretches the D and makes them have to cover more field

[Coach34]

Leach ain't dumb

But he is hard-headed. Sometimes that is the same thing as dumb

[Commercecomet24]

I did notice that. Glad to see us noticing others progress. Rogers arm strength hampers that strategy a little but we can get by with it. We ran a Trey set to the field on the right once and I remember thinking Rogers would have to have a howitzer to get it to the outside WR from there on any route down the field. That said I like it. Stretches the D and makes them have to cover more field

Agree with you on all that. I did like how it created a lot of open space and it will benefit us against most teams not named bama.

[Commercecomet24]

But he is hard-headed. Sometimes that is the same thing as dumb

Yep , this.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Leach looked from the beginning that he knew he was severely overmatched. The only way we can beat Bama is by recruiting better. 3 star players are just not going to be able to beat a team with 5 stars barring a miracle. Sure Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, Michigan have elite coaching, but they also have the players to win. Freeze won because he was getting top 10 recruiting classes. Same with aTm last year and UT this year.

[dawgday166]

But he is hard-headed. Sometimes that is the same thing as dumb

Maybe so but then, maybe it could be he's in a little bit of learning mode and hasn't gotten the personnel necessary to expand his O some. I hope that's the case. The Parson QB commit we have for next year looks pretty mobile. We'll see how it plays out.

[Coach34]

Leach looked from the beginning that he knew he was severely overmatched. The only way we can beat Bama is by recruiting better. 3 star players are just not going to be able to beat a team with 5 stars barring a miracle. Sure Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, Michigan have elite coaching, but they also have the players to win. Freeze won because he was getting top 10 recruiting classes. Same with aTm last year and UT this year.

We have to recruit some "dudes". We have some good players- but we dont have a DUDE.

Cox
Dak
Simmons
Bear
Slay
Sherrod
Jackson
McKinney
Sweat
Abram

DUDES

[BuckyIsAB****]

Some of that is your biased opinion and some I agree with. Especially about throwing it on 3rd and 6 inches and then throwing it again on 4th on your own 30 after you punted on it a few drives before. I would have kicked it too but when he did send the kicker out he missed it. Makes sense why he would go for it to an extent.


But the crap about the drops is you coming up with a way to blame Will and Leach. That is ridiculous. The crap about losing to OM for 3 in a row is ridiculous. Its almost like you are rooting for it. And the crap about the officials not having any impact on the game is also ridiculous. They absolutely were on strict orders to protect Young and Bama. The SEC loses money if we win that game. No way around it.

We have a decent shot at 9 wins and we are better than OM. Or at least just as good. They will not stop us and if we play the run like we are capable they wont score much. Again it is almost like you have a hidden agenda or a bias of some sort. But who am I to question you

[Coach34]

Maybe so but then, maybe it could be he's in a little bit of learning mode and hasn't gotten the personnel necessary to expand his O some. I hope that's the case. The Parson QB commit we have for next year looks pretty mobile. We'll see how it plays out.

But Parson wont be our QB until 2025 at least. We're not sitting a 4 year starter coming back for his 5th year to break every NCAA passing record. What do we do until then?

[dawgday166]

But Parson wont be our QB until 2025 at least. We're not sitting a 4 year starter coming back for his 5th year to break every NCAA passing record. What do we do until then?

Not arguing. Will's our QB next year without a doubt. We'll see what happens rest of season and next.

Made a post in another thread about coaches turning the corner in year 5 or 6. Dabo, Stoops, Mullen, Jackie, Clawson, etc. Before that it's quite up and down and at MSU, it was still up and down with Mullen and Jackie after the really good years. We did have the late 90's run with Jackie, but he still had the WTF losses too. And after about 3 or so of those years, it was time for NCAA to punish us.

[Coach34]

Not arguing. Will's our QB next year without a doubt. We'll see what happens rest of season and next.

Made a post in another thread about coaches turning the corner in year 5 or 6. Dabo, Stoops, Mullen, Jackie, Clawson, etc. Before that it's quite up and down and at MSU, it was still up and down with Mullen and Jackie after the really good years. We did have the late 90's run with Jackie, but he still had the WTF losses too. And after about 3 or so of those years, it was time for NCAA to punish us.

All those guys you named werent in their 60's when they did it tho. In your 60's- its supposed to already be in place

[sandjunky]

But What do we do until then?

Watch post season baseball

[dawgday166]

All those guys you named werent in their 60's when they did it tho. In your 60's- its supposed to already be in place

Saban was in his 60's when he had to change his O philosophy. He also had the D studs, players and resources to change it without too many hiccups. Leach doesn't have to change his much other than a few tweaks like Heupel. However, he does need some players developed or added.

And per your earlier post ... we do need more DUDES. At least some anyway and especially at D front 7 & WR.

[Coach34]

But the crap about the drops is you coming up with a way to blame Will and Leach. That is ridiculous. The crap about losing to OM for 3 in a row is ridiculous.
We have a decent shot at 9 wins and we are better than OM.

I read your post like it was The Dude. "Well, thats like your opinion man!!!!!!" lol

I dont know what position you played but try catching the ball at the same time you run into a wall or get hit by a damn animal barreling down on you. Its not easy at all. Sometimes you win- sometimes the wall or the animal wins.

Mississippi has proven to be better than us since the two coaches got on campus. Until Leach beats him- he is the King. They are 7-1 and playing solid ball. We play at their place. We are 0-3 on the road in the SEC with only 32 points scored offensively in those 3 games. Advantage Mississippi.

[PGHBulldogBG]

There is no question Leach needs to win the Egg Bowl this year. It’s the most important game for him in his time here. Going 8-4 and winning the Egg Bowl and getting to the Gator Bowl or some type of Florida bowl needs to be the goal. Not doing that with 18 starters returning is unacceptable. We will end up playing 5 ranked teams and we need to at least beat 1 of them. Going 0-5 against them would not be a good look.

[Coach34]

There is no question Leach needs to win the Egg Bowl this year. It’s the most important game for him in his time here. Going 8-4 and winning the Egg Bowl and getting to the Gator Bowl or some type of Florida bowl needs to be the goal. Not doing that with 18 starters returning is unacceptable. We will end up playing 5 ranked teams and we need to at least beat 1 of them. Going 0-5 against them would not be a good look.

100%

[Commercecomet24]

There is no question Leach needs to win the Egg Bowl this year. It’s the most important game for him in his time here. Going 8-4 and winning the Egg Bowl and getting to the Gator Bowl or some type of Florida bowl needs to be the goal. Not doing that with 18 starters returning is unacceptable. We will end up playing 5 ranked teams and we need to at least beat 1 of them. Going 0-5 against them would not be a good look.

Yep can't argue with that.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I read your post like it was The Dude. "Well, thats like your opinion man!!!!!!" lol

I dont know what position you played but try catching the ball at the same time you run into a wall or get hit by a damn animal barreling down on you. Its not easy at all. Sometimes you win- sometimes the wall or the animal wins.

Mississippi has proven to be better than us since the two coaches got on campus. Until Leach beats him- he is the King. They are 7-1 and playing solid ball. We play at their place. We are 0-3 on the road in the SEC with only 32 points scored offensively in those 3 games. Advantage Mississippi.

You have to catch the football. Walleys drop and Tulus drop change the game. If will throws a duck you would have a mile long post about how it was his fault. You have to help yourself by taking points when they are there and actually make the FG. We didnt. We can agree on somethings and disagree on others. We should def run the football more. 100 percent.

Ole miss has beaten one team at home on a day where said team played their worst game and still found a way to blow it at the end. They have done absolutely nothing impressive. If we play like we did vs Bama we will beat them. Obviously if we show up like we did at UK we will not. They are the ones who are going to have to fight for 7-5.

They will be beat to hell by the time they play us. LSU just beat them like a govt mule. Worse than we have been beat all year. They were outscored 42-3 after the first quarter or so. If that was us you would have this place in a riot. I can remember the days when you would have never ever posted stuff like that. Like your famous Fredo post about them. Now you are conceding to them bc we throw the ball too much. Playing at Oxford vs a bad defense and a one dimensional offense is a hell of a lot different than Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa.


We are literally a fumble at the inch line and a dropped pass away on the worst weather we have ever played in from being 2-0. If they were so much better than us and we kept it that close then Kiffin is a huge underachiever. This board might as well be the grove the way some have acted on here. Go put on your bow tie and your loafers if youre scared

[Commercecomet24]

If you've watched om this year you will see that their offense is totally different after their first 15-20 scripted plays. They really fade after that. If you survive the first quarter against om they're extremely average it's like lanes coaching pills wear off after that. Saturday is what they've been all year after the first quarter they've just finally played a real team. Heck Tulsa would've beaten om if they hadnt taken out their qb and wr1. Saturday after first quarter lsu 42 points 414 yards om 3 points 149 yards. Microcosm of om season. We cannot play like we did against uk and expect to win but om is extremely average and beatable

ETA and while om defense has some speed they're extremely undersized and have already lost one dl for season and 3 lbs/dbs went down Saturday at lsu, not sure how bad but they didn't come back in and they're defense is really beat up and they've still got some
Tough ones left.

[msu15]

If you've watched om this year you will see that their offense is totally different after their first 15-20 scripted plays. They really fade after that. If you survive the first quarter against om they're extremely average it's like lanes coaching pills wear off after that. Saturday is what they've been all year after the first quarter they've just finally played a real team. Heck Tulsa would've beaten om if they hadnt taken out their qb and wr1. Saturday after first quarter lsu 42 points 414 yards om 3 points 149 yards. Microcosm of om season. We cannot play like we did against uk and expect to win but om is extremely average and beatable

ETA and while om defense has some speed they're extremely undersized and have already lost one dl for season and 3 lbs/dbs went down Saturday at lsu, not sure how bad but they didn't come back in and they're defense is really beat up and they've still got some
Tough ones left.

Almost like Lane is a little preoccupied.

[Leroy Jenkins]

C34 did you notice how wide we split our wrs and how we had some stack sets with them last night? Maybe leach is making some tweaks.

I saw that... and we have used a lot more pre-snap motion the last two weeks so at least there is a possibility of a coverage/assignment bust instead of letting the D get set for 20 seconds before every snap.

[FISHDAWG]

guys ... you can keep telling yourselves that OM isn't any good all you want. And maybe they aren't as good as some make them out.... but they will kick our ass and there's not a thing CML can or will do to prevent it. Quit stroking our own conscience by trying to convince ourselves we're better than them because we just aren't..... And I'm not sure this will change given the current status quo.
Here's to hoping that the egg bowl will be that game that CML wins when he wasn't supposed to

[TALL DAWG]

There are a handful of plays in each game that cost a team for better or worse.
Here were the 3 that cost us:
1) We had a pass that was deflected at the 2yd line (as the DB held the back of our WR Jersey) and our WR still almost caught it for a TD. That was 7 pts.

2) Our WR caught a ball as he was diving in the end zone. His toe didn?t touch down before his body hit out of bounds.
That was 7pts.

3) We missed a 42 yd FG. That was 3 pts.

4) If we had kicked a 32 yd FG in first Q add 3 more pts.

When the above are added to the 6 we scored (should?ve actually been 7 if we were allowed to add a PAT) it = 27 pts if the PAT was included.

Final score, ALL else being =, would?ve been 30-27 ?IF? we had made just 4 plays. 4 plays!

And, when u add all the above to the fact we gave them starting field positions at our 14 and 20 yd lines we could?ve been a WHOLE LOT closer than the casual fan who didn?t watch the game realized.

Our D was STICKING folks all night, even until the end. That?s a great sign they don?t quit.

One day this team is going to play a near errorless game and we will see something great.

[FISHDAWG]

so now we are trying to "IF" our way to a better season ? ... I feel you man but it just doesn't work that way .... IF only counts to comfort one's own mind .... Playing and winning through the IF's makes a better team and that's just not where we are currently residing ... and I'm just not sure we can take the next step with what and who we have going right now

[HancockCountyDog]

Anyone predicting the egg bowl game today is nuts.

This feels a lot like 2016 when they started hot, but faded huge down the stretch. We weren't particularly good that year and kicked their ass.

Lets see if they can beat A&M this weekend. I bet they struggle.

[DownwardDawg]

If you've watched om this year you will see that their offense is totally different after their first 15-20 scripted plays. They really fade after that. If you survive the first quarter against om they're extremely average it's like lanes coaching pills wear off after that. Saturday is what they've been all year after the first quarter they've just finally played a real team. Heck Tulsa would've beaten om if they hadnt taken out their qb and wr1. Saturday after first quarter lsu 42 points 414 yards om 3 points 149 yards. Microcosm of om season. We cannot play like we did against uk and expect to win but om is extremely average and beatable

ETA and while om defense has some speed they're extremely undersized and have already lost one dl for season and 3 lbs/dbs went down Saturday at lsu, not sure how bad but they didn't come back in and they're defense is really beat up and they've still got some
Tough ones left.

All great points. I told my LSU buddy, "just weather the storm". Keep it close in first half and then you will beat their ass in 2nd half. That's exactly what happened.
I forgot about the Tulsa game. They really should have beaten ole miss.

[DownwardDawg]

guys ... you can keep telling yourselves that OM isn't any good all you want. And maybe they aren't as good as some make them out.... but they will kick our ass and there's not a thing CML can or will do to prevent it. Quit stroking our own conscience by trying to convince ourselves we're better than them because we just aren't..... And I'm not sure this will change given the current status quo.
Here's to hoping that the egg bowl will be that game that CML wins when he wasn't supposed to

I believe ole miss is going to beat us this year, but CC24 is correct. They script their first few drives and it's obvious. After that, they become a very average team. If our defense holds them to not many points in first quarter, I like our chances.

[Maroonthirteen]

Drop, not a drop. Still a very tough catch to make when you are blindsided at the moment the ball arrives. Just an obvious play call that the safety read well.

https://twitter.com/timlefty13/status/1584568718746845186?s=46&t=Plr6Ndi_FLJcn1jBvmiTaw

[BrunswickDawg]

All great points. I told my LSU buddy, "just weather the storm". Keep it close in first half and then you will beat their ass in 2nd half. That's exactly what happened.
I forgot about the Tulsa game. They really should have beaten ole miss.

Ole Miss has been skating on thin ice a lot. Tulsa, UK (ties until 2:19 left), Vandy (led at half time), and Auburn (within a TD with 9 minutes in the Fourth) were all tight games. I'll give them credit that they pulled them out, but I still see us both going into Thanksgiving at 7-4 in what I will predict to be the highest scoring Egg Bowl in history.

[Maroonthirteen]

Hindsight is 20/20 but I thought the decision to go for it in the first quarter was a mistake. You're on the road, top 10 program, take the points. Failure to take points and losing the gamble of going for it, cost us momentum and gave it to them. Then later, the decision to go for it deep in our own territory and give them a short field, was a terrible decision.

[Commercecomet24]

All great points. I told my LSU buddy, "just weather the storm". Keep it close in first half and then you will beat their ass in 2nd half. That's exactly what happened.
I forgot about the Tulsa game. They really should have beaten ole miss.

Every game, accept for vandy has followed the same pattern. They jump to an early lead and then hold on for dear life. If folks don't believe me, go back and rewatch all their games. Heck om had a 21-0 lead on troy in the first quarter and wound up winning 28-10. Troy outscored them 10-7 in the second half. Is om a good team? Yes they most certainly are. Are they invincible or unbeatable, not in any form or fashion. As you said if we weather the storm in the first quarter, I like our chances. They're like a boxer who goes for the knockout early and punches themselves out. Weather the storm and then punch back. And if history is an indicator there is no way in heck to predict the outcome of the Egg Bowl.

[BoomBoom]

1. Had to be up early to go watch the kid play his last game of the football season. Moved him from DE on D to LB. No. Put that kid's hand back on the ground where it belongs. After hit the market for some 20 oz ribeyes and some Conecuh sausage. He may be average at LB but he is gonna eat well while we watch football.

2. My 2nd favorite team played well yesterday and beat previously undefeated Mississippi handily. They showed how to #RTGDF. 252 rushing yards. Win the LOS- win games. Everybody wants to talk about how their QB doesnt throw it that well. Hmmmmm. They are 6-2 and tied for the lead in the West. Great shot at 9 wins this season.

3. I've been told here over and over that Leach's offense is our only shot to beat a team like Bama. Well, in 3 games vs Bama- 12 Q's- Leach has scored 15 total points with 6 of them coming on the last play of the blowout. If you really think this gimmick offense is ever going to beat a good team- I'm not sure what to tell you. It's not. Coming in to the game, A&M score 20 on Bama. Tenn 52 points. UPig with their "one-dimensional" QB put up 26 points. The last 3 weeks those teams put up more points against Bama than Leach has in 3 games.

4. That being said- the 1st Q saw Leach with probably his best playcalling at State. Bama went with a light box and 6 DB's. We ran the damn ball against it like we are supposed to and had some success. We would move the ball but then do something dumb like punt on 4th and 6 inches...or not attempt an easy FG to take the lead and get some Mo but go for and not make it. Throwing the ball on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 instead of running the ball and getting it. The offense looks so much better and is much more successful when it has some semblance of balance. Leach kept getting put in short yardage situations for 3rd down and it throws him off. He doesnt want to run and doesnt call it.

5. Games against future NFL players on D shows you why Rogers is not likely to be an NFL QB. Kentucky and now Bama have played us tough and physical in the Secondary much like it is in the NFL. We have seen the results of this. An offense that has scored 16 points the last 2 games total. Tulu's drop was bad but some of the passes you guys are calling "drops" were actually DB's separating the ball from the WR. They were blowing our ass up when the ball was getting there. When you throw it 60 times- there will always be drops or DB's hammering WR's at the moment of catch. Not going to change in an offense that doesnt stretch the field.

6. Lot of respect for Marks. He was getting hit but he kept coming back. Got to appreciate the toughness he showed.

7. Misscardi strikes again. Leach doesnt take the easy FG in the 1st Q which would have only been a 32 yard FG which could have given out kicker and team some confidence. Then runs him out there for a 43 yarder that he misses. The kicking game remains a problem under Leach. It's mental and looks like the approach needs to change.

8. Nice job by the defense. We made some adjustments and it worked. Really gave Bama some fits. Also shows we have the talent to compete. We do lack depth on the DL tho and havent recruited a DUDE there lately. Arnett didnt blitz every 3rd down- nice job. Brought Jett with pressure but dropped other guys- rushing 4....alot like Kentucky did to us. Mixed it up well altho rushing 3 to give their QB all day didnt work out too well. Cant complain about the D tho. They played pretty well holding Bama to 290 yards total.

9. Stop with the officials cost us the game. That's ridiculous. People flop and get calls all over the place every Sat and Sun.

10. We likely beat Auburn with 2 week to prepare and get healthier. We wont beat Georgia. We'll beat the doorknob team. So that has us at 7 wins going into the Egg Bowl. Prepare yourselves for 3 straight and 7-5. That will probably earn us a lovely trip to Birmingham to play in the TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl. A B'ham bowl with 18 starters returning. That's not a successful season in my opinion. If you arent pushing for a big bowl with 18 starters returning- you arent recruiting very well or coaching it well.

It's #3 and #4 together that is the problem. The offensive scheme is not a "gimmick" and could work very well for a somewhat less talented competitor like we are destined to be, but the situational play calling has to be good. It hasnt been. Probably never will be under Leach.

We also don't have a QB/WR combo that can win 1 on 1 balls deep, which completely neuters the scheme.