Hugh Freeze

[PikeDawg15]

Your lying if you don?t think he?s a good coach.

He just dog walked BYU today with his backup QB.

[msu15]

He'd be an upgrade over what we currently have no doubt.

[HancockCountyDog]

I think AU may end up taking him. Would be an interesting hire.

[PikeDawg15]

He'd be an upgrade over what we currently have no doubt.

Beyond an upgrade

Hugh can win 8 games most years here with his recruiting skills and win 10 or 11 every 2-3 years.

Watch tf out if he gets the auburn job tho.

[PikeDawg15]

I think AU may end up taking him. Would be an interesting hire.
Yep

Looks like Nebraska is the front runner for kiffin.

I think Hugh is better than kiffin. Auburn gonna be in the playoff in 3 years

[Joebob]

Don't care. I have more integrity than that, and I hope this university does too.

[PikeDawg15]

Don't care. I have more integrity than that, and I hope this university does too.


The Christian thing to do is give a man a second chance.

[parabrave]

The Christian thing to do is give a man a second chance.

Good Retort. Go get Hugh. Heck Merls with a recruiting Coordinator is an upgrade.

[State82]

One word: Sankey

[msu15]

Don't care. I have more integrity than that, and I hope this university does too.

Fans like you are why are university and program are in the shapes that they are in. Find another school loser.

[Catfish]

Fans like you are why are university and program are in the shapes that they are in. Find another school loser.

This post makes you look like an ass.

[CaptainObvious]

Mississippi State hiring Hugh Freeze will happen the day the Ole Miss Spirit Board hires Steve Robertson!

[PGHBulldogBG]

There are plenty of other good coaches we could hire besides Freeze. Clawson, Chadwell and Rhule would go way above Hugh for me

[SailingDawg]

The Christian thing to do is give a man a second chance.

He?s already making bank at his marital conferences with his wife. I guess if you?re married to one of these guys you suck it up because you?re used to the money.

[EdwardDrayton]

This post makes you look like an ass.

With a hat

[EdwardDrayton]

Hugh Freeze? No. Nope. Not ever.

Moving along.

[ScoobaDawg]

We need to go in the dark side with the next hire. it's all legal now.
We need to get behind the NLI act and do our part.
Will we be as big as the top 3-4 nope.
But we can band together to do something.

[parabrave]

One other thing is that we are never going to pull in a ton of highly ranked recruits. What we need is someone who has a good scheme that any kid can excel at and most importantly s coaching staff that can develop 3 stars into NFL talent. We have had that here and it was about to pay off before someone thought the grass was greener on the other side of the fence. It can still be done even in this day of NIL and the transfer portal.

[ScoobaDawg]

One other thing is that we are never going to pull in a ton of highly ranked recruits. What we need is someone who has a good scheme that any kid can excel at and most importantly s coaching staff that can develop 3 stars into NFL talent. We have had that here and it was about to pay off before someone thought the grass was greener on the other side of the fence. It can still be done even in this day of NIL and the transfer portal.

I'll always disagree with this Whoo is Me attitude. Can we outspend? No. But we should be able to be competitive.
Why would a 4 or 5* Wr wanna come here when Will can't sling the ball beyond 20 yards.... they want big plays like the other offenses get.

[dawgday166]

Your lying if you don?t think he?s a good coach.

He just dog walked BYU today with his backup QB.

He's a good underdog coach. Very bad favorite coach. Mullen is a little like that too.

[WSOPdawg]

One word: Sankey

Many supposedly "in the know" claim Sankey will NEVER let Freeze back into the SEC. Yet nobody provides the exact "why" regarding his conference black-balling. Sure we all know about him being the scapegoat for OM's hookers, but its not like he bet on his own team (ala Pete Rose).

[WSOPdawg]

We need to go in the dark side with the next hire. it's all legal now.
We need to get behind the NLI act and do our part.
Will we be as big as the top 3-4 nope.
But we can band together to do something.

Agree Scooba, similar to what we did with Jackie in the 90s. Not doing so will keep us in the perpetual 7-5 or 8-4 level of a middling SEC school.

[War Machine Dawg]

Your lying if you don?t think he?s a good coach.

He just dog walked BYU today with his backup QB.

Is he a good coach? Yeah. But he's also scum of the earth. I'd legitimately cut all ties if we ever hired him. There's better options without the baggage, namely Clawson.

[War Machine Dawg]

There are plenty of other good coaches we could hire besides Freeze. Clawson, Chadwell and Rhule would go way above Hugh for me

Bingo. Lots of good coaches who can get the job done available that wouldn't draw the scrutiny of Freeze

[NCDawg]

I think AU may end up taking him. Would be an interesting hire.

He would probably end up being a Saban clone who we could never beat.

[Quaoarsking]

We need to go in the dark side with the next hire. it's all legal now.
We need to get behind the NLI act and do our part.
Will we be as big as the top 3-4 nope.
But we can band together to do something.

Why not try that with the current coach and see if we can do it?

[NCDawg]

Why not try that with the current coach and see if we can do it?

Whether we keep Leach or get somebody else, we need to get stronger, faster, athletes if we are really going to compete. Pretty obvious Alabama had numerous athletes superior to ours.

[CaptainObvious]

I don?t think Clawson?s ego is so big that he would make a lateral move thinking he could have as much success in the SEC West as he currently has a Wake Forest. Not to mention moving from a 50 mile radius metro area that includes 4 Universities and nearly 1 million people to the Golden Triangle that doesn?t have a Target.😎

[ScoobaDawg]

Why not try that with the current coach and see if we can do it?

Biting my tongue.

[ScoobaDawg]

Whether we keep Leach or get somebody else, we need to get stronger, faster, athletes if we are really going to compete. Pretty obvious Alabama had numerous athletes superior to ours.

truth. ... we have to be more creative.

[dawgday166]

Yep

Looks like Nebraska is the front runner for kiffin.

I think Hugh is better than kiffin. Auburn gonna be in the playoff in 3 years

Personally, I'd be shocked if Lane went there. Nebraska is a dead program IMO. I think fewer recruits wanna go there than wanna go to MSU. Of course NIL could change all of that and I have no feel for their boosters or whatnot.

[Todd4State]

Personally, I'd be shocked if Lane went there. Nebraska is a dead program IMO. I think fewer recruits wanna go there than wanna go to MSU. Of course NIL could change all of that and I have no feel for their boosters or whatnot.

Just because a program is down doesn't mean it's not better than where he is. He clearly has some ties there. It just comes down to money and how he perceives their situation.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Many supposedly "in the know" claim Sankey will NEVER let Freeze back into the SEC. Yet nobody provides the exact "why" regarding his conference black-balling. Sure we all know about him being the scapegoat for OM's hookers, but its not like he bet on his own team (ala Pete Rose).
I?m not in the ?know?, but the rumors are there?s a lot more smoke to everything that actually came out to the public. By all accounts/rumors he?s lucky he didn?t spend any time in jail or have to register as a sex offender. Basically he was responsible or in the know of lining up escorts for underage kids (17 year old recruits), there?s just no paper trail to prove it. Those are the rumors anyway, if they are true or not I don?t know, but that?s toxic enough to keep him out of the SEC. As they say where?s there?s smoke?there?s fire

[Todd4State]

I?m not in the ?know?, but the rumors are there?s a lot more smoke to everything that actually came out to the public. By all accounts/rumors he?s lucky he didn?t spend any time in jail or have to register as a sex offender. Basically he was responsible or in the know of lining up escorts for underage kids (17 year old recruits), there?s just no paper trail to prove it. Those are the rumors anyway, if they are true or not I don?t know, but that?s toxic enough to keep him out of the SEC. As they say where?s there?s smoke?there?s fire

That's been going on at Ole Miss for years probably going back to Vaught. The thing that was always different about Ole Miss to me was how involved the head coach was with it all. I think that's part of their "Network" whereas at most places the head coach wasn't as involved.

It's actually pretty remarkable there isn't some sleazy escort out there that hasn't ever gone to ESPN to try to "tell her story" so that she could become famous to be honest with you. Then again there is probably some escort in Tampa that has been paid pretty well to keep quiet.

At any rate I can't see Freeze being a fit at MSU. He's a complete sleaze bag. I'm not sure why we have fans that would even want him. And the thing is I could see Ole Miss nuking him if he was our coach. See Jackie. But like 10 times worse. They definitely know all the dirt on him. At any rate the guy is absolutely toxic. And it's not like he is pulling 4-5 stars at Liberty.

[civildawg]

I wish we would get a coach/AD that would organize our boosters and common fans in the NIL era. Yes we are the poorest SEC school but if we could get our boosters and fans in certain areas to go after the recruits assigned to a boosters region or area, we would see a lot of recruiting improvement. It just feels like we are so disorganized in recruiting or don?t have a plan together on NIL for specific targets.

[ImissCityBagel]

his recruiting skills

"Recruiting skills"
*Air quotes wink wink nod nod

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Don't care. I have more integrity than that, and I hope this university does too.

I 100% agree with you. There are bigger things in life than winning football games.

[Maroonthirteen]

These Hugh Freeze threads are just embarrassing. First, I agree. I'd invite anybody to apply for the job before freeze.

However regardless of that. Here is another angle to consider ...even if Freeze is fair game and State could offer him a job, so could any other sec or P5 school with an opening. Freeze would take those jobs over MSU. So just stop.... one way or the other Freeze will never ever be a MSU coach.

[Cowbell]

I was just thinking this last night. If we want to be more than an 8-4 ceiling we have to take some risks. Most of us will never know the full story on Freeze but he was absolutely a scape goat. If we don't grab him someone else will and it will be the same situation we are in with Lane - LLLss

[IMissJack]

Beyond an upgrade

Hugh can win 8 games most years here with his recruiting skills and win 10 or 11 every 2-3 years.

Watch tf out if he gets the auburn job tho.

His recruiting skills would stink here, we don?t put forth the money for him to be successful here.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bingo. Lots of good coaches who can get the job done available that wouldn't draw the scrutiny of Freeze

Who gives a crap about the scrutiny. You know what quiets scrutiny? WINNING. And what does Freeze do? WIN.

You can love or hate Hugh, but you cannot argue he loves this state and he would have extra motivation to do it again in the state of Mississippi.

[DownwardDawg]

I?m not in the ?know?, but the rumors are there?s a lot more smoke to everything that actually came out to the public. By all accounts/rumors he?s lucky he didn?t spend any time in jail or have to register as a sex offender. Basically he was responsible or in the know of lining up escorts for underage kids (17 year old recruits), there?s just no paper trail to prove it. Those are the rumors anyway, if they are true or not I don?t know, but that?s toxic enough to keep him out of the SEC. As they say where?s there?s smoke?there?s fire

This has been discussed many times since the incidents. I don't think it's a secret. How, there's so much money involved in sports these days and it's so corrupt, I don't think Slive can keep him out. He'll be in SEC in no time.

[PikeDawg15]

Personally, I'd be shocked if Lane went there. Nebraska is a dead program IMO. I think fewer recruits wanna go there than wanna go to MSU. Of course NIL could change all of that and I have no feel for their boosters or whatnot.

100 million dollars makes people do things.

[PikeDawg15]

That's been going on at Ole Miss for years probably going back to Vaught. The thing that was always different about Ole Miss to me was how involved the head coach was with it all. I think that's part of their "Network" whereas at most places the head coach wasn't as involved.

It's actually pretty remarkable there isn't some sleazy escort out there that hasn't ever gone to ESPN to try to "tell her story" so that she could become famous to be honest with you. Then again there is probably some escort in Tampa that has been paid pretty well to keep quiet.

At any rate I can't see Freeze being a fit at MSU. He's a complete sleaze bag. I'm not sure why we have fans that would even want him. And the thing is I could see Ole Miss nuking him if he was our coach. See Jackie. But like 10 times worse. They definitely know all the dirt on him. At any rate the guy is absolutely toxic. And it's not like he is pulling 4-5 stars at Liberty.

He?s beating the shit out of teams that have more talent than him.

If not fighting harder than we are.

He just ran byu out the building who has about the 60th most talented roster and Liberty has about the 115th most talented roster.

Jackson state has over double the talent liberty has .

You all will wake up when Liberty beats Arkansas in a few weeks.

[Quaoarsking]

Jackson state has over double the talent liberty has .

Extremely false. Jackson State has a couple of stars, but across the roster they're below the FCS average, much less below a decent G5 team.

[Liverpooldawg]

If we hire Freeze then I'm done with MSU. I won't be nearly the only one either. I'd rather lose than be associated with him.

[Liverpooldawg]

Extremely false. Jackson State has a couple of stars, but across the roster they're below the FCS average, much less below a decent G5 team.

Correct.

[DownwardDawg]

I still don't understand the love for Freeze. He won because he cheated to get recruits. Those recruits wouldn't think about coming to State or ole Miss these days since the new NIL deals. There is no cheating. Those low character recruits have plenty of options now. It's in the open. Freeze just did what everyone does now openly. Plus he provided hookers for high school kids. Those days are over.

[PikeDawg15]

Here is the proof.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Jackson state #67 above Syracuse and Kansas state

Liberty is #145

[Todd4State]

Here is the proof.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Jackson state #67 above Syracuse and Kansas state

Liberty is #145

Yeah. Recruiting rankings are completely objective data.**

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we hire Freeze then I'm done with MSU. I won't be nearly the only one either. I'd rather lose than be associated with him.

I always love this take. I am done with [insert program] if we ever hire [insert coach]. Those same people are the on board the moment we start 6-0.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I always love this take. I am done with [insert program] if we ever hire [insert coach]. Those same people are the on board the moment we start 6-0.

You’ve got me pegged wrong. I love MSU football. If we went 15-0 under Freeze I wouldn’t support it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You’ve got me pegged wrong. I love MSU football. If we went 15-0 under Freeze I wouldn’t support it.

If we went 15-0 I think we would have plenty of fans to make up for it.

And BTW we are not hiring Hugh, nor are we firing Leach. We will continue to field 6-6 or 7-5 teams as long as he is here and we just have to be ok with that. We would have the same results with Dave Clawson, Dave Doeren, or whoever other nice coach you want to bring up. You have to be ruthless and not give a crap about PR to win big

[Quaoarsking]

Here is the proof.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Jackson state #67 above Syracuse and Kansas state

Liberty is #145

That's not "proof" when it's based on recruiting rankings. Jackson State's P5 transfers didn't live up to their recruiting rankings and should be lower with hindsight.

Also, half of JSU's roster and most of Liberty's roster were "unranked" but if you actually went through player by player, Liberty's roster would be better on average. There's definitely no one as good as Travis Hunter at Liberty though.

[Quaoarsking]

Imagine how much people here would want to fire Leach or whatever head coach he had if he only won 3 games his first 2 seasons, had 5 or 6 losses in years 3-6, and was back to a losing record in year 7.

[Commercecomet24]

Extremely false. Jackson State has a couple of stars, but across the roster they're below the FCS average, much less below a decent G5 team.

Yeah this. Lot of hyperbole going on here.

[Liverpooldawg]

I always love this take. I am done with [insert program] if we ever hire [insert coach]. Those same people are the on board the moment we start 6-0.

I wouldn't be with Freeze.

[FoggyBottom]

Wishful thinking. Freeze will hold out for a
P 5 job where he can win big, i.e., natty big.

[Bass Chaser]

If Freeze isn’t hired for a P5 job after this season, it’s not only the SEC …

[NCDawg]

I always love this take. I am done with [insert program] if we ever hire [insert coach]. Those same people are the on board the moment we start 6-0.

Agree. A lot of people said the same thing about Sherrill. Don't hire him because he's got so many personal problems.. Fortunately, Dr. Zacharias hired him anyway and we won our only SECW under him.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Just because a program is down doesn't mean it's not better than where he is. He clearly has some ties there. It just comes down to money and how he perceives their situation.

Nebraska has been down for a good 15-20 years, but comparing Ole Miss to them is laughable. Ole Miss is a program with a losing SEC record, no real NCs and a team that has not even won their division since divisions were created. Nebraska has an extremely passionate fanbase with a tradition of being a winning program. They have multiple NCs, numerous conference titles and a great tradition. Nebraska still holds the 10th best winning percentage of any program and Ole Miss is in the 60s. I have no idea if Kiffin would be considered for the Neb job, but I can?t imagine he would turn it down if offered. The big 12 west is extremely weak and that program could take over that division yearly with the right coaching hire

[yjnkdawg]

I'm not saying Freeze is not a good coach but he was highly successful at OM due to "The Network." I even heard a rumor that one or two of the highly rated players that OM and Freeze were recruiting that Freeze didn't even know they were going to actually sign with OM until...... ("The Network") Those highly rated players didn't just go to OM because they loved the Grove , or due to Freeze being the coach , but it was "money". Now the more success OM had with putting WR's in the NFL could helped influence potential recruits' decision in that group, but the main attraction was the "money". Freeze wouldn't come to MSU and he wouldn't be considered as a potential HC candidate if we did have a HC coaching vacancy.

[Todd4State]

Nebraska has been down for a good 15-20 years, but comparing Ole Miss to them is laughable. Ole Miss is a program with a losing SEC record, no real NCs and a team that has not even won their division since divisions were created. Nebraska has an extremely passionate fanbase with a tradition of being a winning program. They have multiple NCs, numerous conference titles and a great tradition. Nebraska still holds the 10th best winning percentage of any program and Ole Miss is in the 60s. I have no idea if Kiffin would be considered for the Neb job, but I can?t imagine he would turn it down if offered. The big 12 west is extremely weak and that program could take over that division yearly with the right coaching hire

I'm sure if Nebraska paid that Lane would take the money. I'm not sure what they can offer though.

[Catfish]

I'm sure if Nebraska paid that Lane would take the money. I'm not sure what they can offer though.

Lot of oil money in Nebraska and Oklahoma.

[Todd4State]

Lot of oil money in Nebraska and Oklahoma.

True and they are the only game in town basically. I'm sure they have a large bandwagon following in the midwest. I even met a couple of fans in Mississippi of all places.

[Catfish]

True and they are the only game in town basically. I'm sure they have a large bandwagon following in the midwest. I even met a couple of fans in Mississippi of all places.

Frost didn't work out at all so you know they are desperate. But I don't see them making an A&M mistake money wise. I could see them going 5 years at $45 mil.

[PikeDawg15]

I'm not saying Freeze is not a good coach but he was highly successful at OM due to "The Network." I even heard a rumor that one or two of the highly rated players that OM and Freeze were recruiting that Freeze didn't even know they were going to actually sign with OM until...... ("The Network") Those highly rated players didn't just go to OM because they loved the Grove , or due to Freeze being the coach , but it was "money". Now the more success OM had with putting WR's in the NFL could helped influence potential recruits' decision in that group, but the main attraction was the "money". Freeze wouldn't come to MSU and he wouldn't be considered as a potential HC candidate if we did have a HC coaching vacancy.

1. I agree that Miss St would not hire Hugh Freeze ( with the current administration)

2. Hugh WOULD take the MSU job if offered , he is dying to get back into the sec , he would take a pay cut to go to Vanderbilt , he wants back in the conference so bad he will take whatever he can get.

I want Mike leach to work out so so so so bad! But if he can?t win that game on thanksgiving, their may be a coup that gets him out. 7-5 with an egg bowl loss , I wouldn?t guarantee he gets fired but I would say it?s a chance. Not a large chance

6-6 with an egg bowl loss and getting blown out.

That would have a large chance of getting him fired .

[yjnkdawg]

1. I agree that Miss St would not hire Hugh Freeze ( with the current administration)

2. Hugh WOULD take the MSU job if offered , he is dying to get back into the sec , he would take a pay cut to go to Vanderbilt , he wants back in the conference so bad he will take whatever he can get.

I want Mike leach to work out so so so so bad! But if he can?t win that game on thanksgiving, their may be a coup that gets him out. 7-5 with an egg bowl loss , I wouldn?t guarantee he gets fired but I would say it?s a chance. Not a large chance

6-6 with an egg bowl loss and getting blown out.

That would have a large chance of getting him fired .


I think Freeze would take any other SEC job over us. Hypothetically, if with did offer Freeze for some unforeseen reason, and he had no other SEC offers then I think he probably would take our offer. I agree on really wanting CML to be successful here, but I also want to beat OM as you do too. Also beating OM is a top priority with Dr. Keenum. Hopefully we will beat OM and all this will be a moot point. If Dart takes many more hits like he did at Tiger Stadium. OM may have to play another QB.

[Todd4State]

Frost didn't work out at all so you know they are desperate. But I don't see them making an A&M mistake money wise. I could see them going 5 years at $45 mil.

That sounds reasonable. We'll see what happens with them.


I think Freeze would take any other SEC job over us. Hypothetically, if with did offer Freeze for some unforeseen reason, and he had no other SEC offers then I think he probably would take our offer. I agree on really wanting CML to be successful here, but I also want to beat OM as you do too. Also beating OM is a top priority with Dr. Keenum. Hopefully we will beat OM and all this will be a moot point. If Dart takes many more hits like he did at Tiger Stadium. OM may have to play another QB.

That is one thing that no one talks about with Freeze and MSU. It would be incredibly awkward for him and Steve Robertson to have a coach/media relationship. Not that would be a deciding factor into whether or not to hire Freeze but I can't see Freeze walking into that.

[parabrave]

That sounds reasonable. We'll see what happens with them.



That is one thing that no one talks about with Freeze and MSU. It would be incredibly awkward for him and Steve Robertson to have a coach/media relationship. Not that would be a deciding factor into whether or not to hire Freeze but I can't see Freeze walking into that.

I was about to say the Same thing. Maybe SR could give him a lucrative sponsor contract to Bulldog burger to soothe things over/

[Pancho]

Steve is a great guy and would treat the freezer just as professionally as he has any other coach. Hugh mite have to attend an additional prayer meeting to clear his head but it would eventually work.

[TrapGame]

Freeze would not come to State for two reasons:

1) We got him fired at OM. They knew probation was looming b/c of the croots but the whole escort thing made them pull the trigger.

2) We are never going to cheat at the level he requires to have a competitive SEC program.

[Extendedcab]

If we hire Freeze then I'm done with MSU. I won't be nearly the only one either. I'd rather lose than be associated with him.

I am another one that will be done with MSU if we hire Freeze. I think he disqualified himself from being a coach. He proved he can not be trusted to do what is in the best interest for 18 - 22 year old kids!!!

Would you let your kid play for and be morally influenced by him?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I am another one that will be done with MSU if we hire Freeze. I think he disqualified himself from being a coach. He proved he can not be trusted to do what is in the best interest for 18 - 22 year old kids!!!

Would you let your kid play for and be morally influenced by him?

It goes a lot deeper than that for me. It wouldn't bother me if somebody sent him swimming in the Mississippi River wearing a pair of concrete shoes.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Yep

Looks like Nebraska is the front runner for kiffin.

I think Hugh is better than kiffin. Auburn gonna be in the playoff in 3 years

I can't see Kiffin going to Nebraska. I can however see him at Auburn

[yjnkdawg]

I can't see Kiffin going to Nebraska. I can however see him at Auburn

Kiffin has a good thing going at OM right now. So I don't think he will take a Nebraska or Auburn job if offered. I think he will let Sexton do what is needed to get him more money at OM for now, and then when he and Sexton think the right blueblood job is offered go for it.

[PikeDawg15]

Kiffin has a good thing going at OM right now. So I don't think he will take a Nebraska or Auburn job if offered. I think he will let Sexton do what is needed to get him more money at OM for now, and then when he and Sexton think the right blueblood job is offered go for it.

That makes sense even though if offered I think he takes auburn


But watch out for the situation in college station, They could get sick of jimbo this year. That is a landing spot for a major coach.

Also Oklahoma next year or even they dont make a bowl game, they could can him this year.

[DownwardDawg]

That makes sense even though if offered I think he takes auburn


But watch out for the situation in college station, They could get sick of jimbo this year. That is a landing spot for a major coach.

Also Oklahoma next year or even they dont make a bowl game, they could can him this year.

Kiffin might be dangerous at aTm.

[DownwardDawg]

I can't see Kiffin going to Nebraska. I can however see him at Auburn

Auburn is gonna hire freeze. I just feel it. It's a perfect fit.

[Matt3467]

There's people here that would rather Mississippi State never win a game again than to have Freeze as our coach. However I don't see Freeze staying out of the SEC forever. You can use the "Network" excuse all you want to explain away the success he had at OM and nearly beating Bama 3 years in a row but he now has more years of head coaching outside of OM than he did there and he's been successful. He's 7-1 now at Liberty with a 1 point loss after a missed 2pt conversion to a HC at Wake that several people on this board want as our next coach. Wake Forest and Clawson have no business playing Liberty that close especially at home. That's how good Freeze is and one day he'll be coaching in the SEC again and curb stomping us. At least we'll still have integrity though I guess.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

There's people here that would rather Mississippi State never win a game again than to have Freeze as our coach. However I don't see Freeze staying out of the SEC forever. You can use the "Network" excuse all you want to explain away the success he had at OM and nearly beating Bama 3 years in a row but he now has more years of head coaching outside of OM than he did there and he's been successful. He's 7-1 now at Liberty with a 1 point loss after a missed 2pt conversion to a HC at Wake that several people on this board want as our next coach. Wake Forest and Clawson have no business playing Liberty that close especially at home. That's how good Freeze is and one day he'll be coaching in the SEC again and curb stomping us. At least we'll still have integrity though I guess.

Is that not important to you? How do you run your life and household? What kind of values do you work off of at home and work? What thing (a win, an item, an amount of money) is worth compromising your word, your integrity, your character? I would be interested to know.

[Goldendawg]

Freeze would not come to State for two reasons:

1) We got him fired at OM. They knew probation was looming b/c of the croots but the whole escort thing made them pull the trigger.

2) We are never going to cheat at the level he requires to have a competitive SEC program.

We are capable of cheating, just not good at getting away with it! Last time I checked, we and AU were tied at most # of times put put on probation.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Freeze is a good coach and it’s crazy he ruined his career by the network instead of just gradually building the program back and then sprinkling in top 4 and 5 stars once he got Ole Miss playing at a higher level. Had he done that, Ole Miss would probably be better than they are now and Freeze would still be coaching there. They got too greedy too fast.

[NCDawg]

Auburn is gonna hire freeze. I just feel it. It's a perfect fit.

If he does, we'll probably go 0-15 against Auburn like we are against Alabama.

[yjnkdawg]

Freeze is a good coach and it?s crazy he ruined his career by the network instead of just gradually building the program back and then sprinkling in top 4 and 5 stars once he got Ole Miss playing at a higher level. Had he done that, Ole Miss would probably be better than they are now and Freeze would still be coaching there. They got too greedy too fast.


As long as the big money booster lawyers in the Jackson Metro area and the big corporate boosters want to continue to financially support the OM football program with big money, they will call the shots. The Network is the reason Freeze got those highly recruited players. It's been like that for a long time.

[Pancho]

Freeze is a good coach and it’s crazy he ruined his career by the network instead of just gradually building the program back and then sprinkling in top 4 and 5 stars once he got Ole Miss playing at a higher level. Had he done that, Ole Miss would probably be better than they are now and Freeze would still be coaching there. They got too greedy too fast.

Archie hand picked him and he simply did what he was told and didn't mind it.

[Matt3467]

Is that not important to you? How do you run your life and household? What kind of values do you work off of at home and work? What thing (a win, an item, an amount of money) is worth compromising your word, your integrity, your character? I would be interested to know.

Is there a nationally relevant football program out there playing clean? I bet there's closets just as dirty and maybe even worse than Freeze's but the difference was it was OM winning and not a traditional blue blood. SMU was given the death penalty for essentially what is now open and legal in football. I don't think SMU was the only team paying players but the issue was they were winning. Do you think if the roles were swapped Texas would've been handed the DP? There's a difference between choosing a head football coach and running a home just like there's a difference in voting for a president vs voting in a pastor.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Is there a nationally relevant football program out there playing clean? I bet there's closets just as dirty and maybe even worse than Freeze's but the difference was it was OM winning and not a traditional blue blood. SMU was given the death penalty for essentially what is now open and legal in football. I don't think SMU was the only team paying players but the issue was they were winning. Do you think if the roles were swapped Texas would've been handed the DP? There's a difference between choosing a head football coach and running a home just like there's a difference in voting for a president vs voting in a pastor.

Understood. But I don’t have to like it. With me and Freeze it’s personal, and he knows that. It’s not about football. I won’t support anywhere he coaches.

[Cowbell]

Understood. But I don?t have to like it. With me and Freeze it?s personal, and he knows that. It?s not about football. I won?t support anywhere he coaches.

So you and him know each other well?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

So you and him know each other well?

We know each other. But I wouldn’t use the word “well”. My main issue isn’t related to his employment at Ole Miss, football, recruiting, phone calls, prostitutes, etc.

[Pancho]

Sounds like you know why he's referred to as sleeze and not freeze.

[TrapGame]

We are capable of cheating, just not good at getting away with it! Last time I checked, we and AU were tied at most # of times put put on probation.

We do cheat but compared to everybody else we're altar boys.

[PikeDawg15]

Freeze is a good coach and it’s crazy he ruined his career by the network instead of just gradually building the program back and then sprinkling in top 4 and 5 stars once he got Ole Miss playing at a higher level. Had he done that, Ole Miss would probably be better than they are now and Freeze would still be coaching there. They got too greedy too fast.

Freeze is a great coach.

Right now, I think he is a top 10 coach in college football currently.

The problem that he faced at ole miss is the boosters wanted to be better than Mississippi State immediately and would not settle for a gradual rebuild.

They got the network to get these 5 star recruits to come in after a 6-6 season after they had less than 6 wins in the last 2 years before freeze came in.

Freeze turned around a program that was headed to the absolute bottomless pit in the sec west.

The few Ole Miss people i know that arent completely brain washed know Freeze wasnt the culprit of the violations at Ole Miss.

If you know about the Chris Jones recruitment, you know the network has a lot of assets on their payroll that will help sway a recruits decision.

The biggest cheaters in college football are Alabama, LSU, and Auburn.

Those 3 will make Ole Miss look like saints because the crap that goes on at those programs is ridiculous and especially what goes on at LSU.

[parabrave]

Freeze is a great coach.

Right now, I think he is a top 10 coach in college football currently.

The problem that he faced at ole miss is the boosters wanted to be better than Mississippi State immediately and would not settle for a gradual rebuild.

They got the network to get these 5 star recruits to come in after a 6-6 season after they had less than 6 wins in the last 2 years before freeze came in.

Freeze turned around a program that was headed to the absolute bottomless pit in the sec west.

The few Ole Miss people i know that arent completely brain washed know Freeze wasnt the culprit of the violations at Ole Miss.

If you know about the Chris Jones recruitment, you know the network has a lot of assets on their payroll that will help sway a recruits decision.

The biggest cheaters in college football are Alabama, LSU, and Auburn.

Those 3 will make Ole Miss look like saints because the crap that goes on at those programs is ridiculous and especially what goes on at LSU.

And LSU just got away with the most despicable violation of the all.

[Commercecomet24]

And LSU just got away with the most despicable violation of the all.

Yes they did and aboslutely zero repercussions for their athletics department.

[PikeDawg15]

And LSU just got away with the most despicable violation of the all.

If that wouldve been Miss st, OM, South Carolina, Vandy, they wouldve given the death penalty , but because its LSU they come away un harmed because LSU makes the SEC a lot of money.

I live in South Mississippi and I have worked in Louisiana for a limited amount of time, those people think that it is their God given right to win every single football game and any Louisiana recruit who even thinks about not coming to LSU is committing heresy.

Because I live in South MS, I hate LSU more than I hate Alabama. Not many bammer fans here, TONS of Mississippi LSU fans down here.

Thats why I love watching the LSU- OM game because one of them is going to lose and I love it.

LSU fans down here were wanting brian kelly fired after the Florida State, they expect 10 wins every single year, hell they fired a coach who won a national title, got them a heisman winner, sec title, perfect season all within less than 2 years after they fired him. They wanted to fire him during the 2020 season, thats why I have always said if there was a program that would fire a coach in year 1 , it IS LSU

[PMDawg]

I always love this take. I am done with [insert program] if we ever hire [insert coach]. Those same people are the on board the moment we start 6-0.

Almost as funny as all the people who used to say Freeze wasn't a good coach, his scheme was a joke, his players were unprepared for the NFL, he only won because he was cheating scum, etc. etc. now saying they want to hire him.

[Pancho]

how much cheating is going on a liberty now? I think he won with marginal talent due to scheme. sound kinda like the air bone to me ...........

[BiscuitEater]

Hugh can win 8 games most years here with his recruiting skills .

It's called 'cash!'

He doesn't win .. if he doesn't cheat!

[lastmajordog]

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