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Maverick91
09-24-2022, 03:28 PM
Who do you want to win for our game next week? Obviously we want it to go to 16 overtimes.

Just wondering what you guys are wanting leading into our game.

PikeDawg15
09-24-2022, 03:32 PM
I think

A&M needs to win in 5 overtimes

A&M will be ranked for us next week

Then Arkansas will only drop 2-3 spots for that close lose

Then lose to bama next week which then they will still be ranked when we play them.

So A&M needs to win in a close one

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 05:36 PM
I think

A&M needs to win in 5 overtimes

A&M will be ranked for us next week

Then Arkansas will only drop 2-3 spots for that close lose

Then lose to bama next week which then they will still be ranked when we play them.

So A&M needs to win in a close one

Yep! Agreed.

Jack Lambert
09-24-2022, 06:36 PM
Jimbo 17 Fisher. Greatest conman in history of college football.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 06:54 PM
God, I wish we played offense like Arkansas

RocketDawg
09-24-2022, 06:55 PM
Arkansas looks pretty good.

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 06:57 PM
God, I wish we played offense like Arkansas

But what about your boy Jimbo?

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:04 PM
But what about your boy Jimbo?

They look rough right now

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 07:07 PM
A$M is soft. We punch them in the face early and not quit we will win well.

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:20 PM
God, I wish we played offense like Arkansas

We could beg Mullen back and have 2 like Arky's in 9 years. Minus the explosive WRs.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:22 PM
We could beg Mullen back and have 2 like Arky's in 9 years. Minus the explosive WRs.

Or we could do what we doing and never be this good

Dawg97
09-24-2022, 07:23 PM
KJ Jefferson is the most overrated qb in college. Convince me I?m wrong.

Leroy Jenkins
09-24-2022, 07:23 PM
Tesatore just creamed his jeans.

PikeDawg15
09-24-2022, 07:25 PM
We have a game in Jerry World

Hopefully they beat the shit out of each other

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:26 PM
Or we could do what we doing and never be this good

Maybe so although it seems like we went into TAM last year and beat them ... after they had beat Bama.

DownwardDawg
09-24-2022, 07:30 PM
God, I wish we played offense like Arkansas

I like it too!

DownwardDawg
09-24-2022, 07:31 PM
Maybe so although it seems like we went into TAM last year and beat them ... after they had beat Bama.

Before they beat Bama.

BlackSailsDawg
09-24-2022, 07:32 PM
Or we could do what we doing and never be this good

We are better.

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:34 PM
Before they beat Bama.

Correct.

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:37 PM
We are better.

Not willing to say that myself just yet.

Leroy Jenkins
09-24-2022, 07:37 PM
The mighty Hurricanes aTm beat last week to stay ranked lost to MTSU today.....

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 07:39 PM
The mighty Hurricanes aTm beat last week to stay ranked lost to MTSU today.....

Jimbo has them up to play Arkansas. This is a big game for both teams. What are they gonna have in the tank next Saturday for us?

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:40 PM
Maybe so although it seems like we went into TAM last year and beat them ... after they had beat Bama.

Are we talking about ark or aTm?

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:41 PM
Jimbo has them up to play Arkansas. This is a big game for both teams. What are they gonna have in the tank next Saturday for us?

We can win that game bc aTm's offense isn't very good. Our offense will have their hands full though... will can't hurt them like kj

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 07:42 PM
We are better.

Not the way we?ve played so far

DesotoDog1967
09-24-2022, 07:42 PM
Kentucky tied at half with Northern Illinois

PikeDawg15
09-24-2022, 07:43 PM
Kentucky is not good.

I have been telling people since the off-season

Tied with northern Illinois 14-14 at half

Kentucky is the biggest frauds in college football this year .

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 07:43 PM
We can win that game bc aTm's offense isn't very good. Our offense will have their hands full though... will can't hurt them like kj

I see the reason Jimbo poached Durkin. Without that defense they would be in deep shit.

Leroy Jenkins
09-24-2022, 07:43 PM
Not the way we?ve played so far

We will beat both of these teams. We are the 2nd best team in the west and it is a shame we shit our bed last week.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:44 PM
We will beat both of these teams.

We were gonna beat lsu too

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:44 PM
Are we talking about ark or aTm?

If Arky beats TAM today at TAM I'm saying we did that last year too ... Against probably a better team. But we also had a better Oline and Will's clock in his head was calibrated for a longer time period.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:45 PM
If Arky beats TAM today at TAM I'm saying we did that last year too ... Against probably a better team. But we also had a better Oline and Will's clock in his head was calibrated for a longer time period.

What if I told you this game isn't at aTm?

Really Clark?
09-24-2022, 07:45 PM
Kentucky is not good.

I have been telling people since the off-season

Tied with northern Illinois 14-14 at half

Kentucky is the biggest frauds in college football this year .

I think Miami is the biggest fraud honestly

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:46 PM
I think Miami is the biggest fraud honestly

And Kentucky already has a big road sec win.

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 07:48 PM
Kentucky tied at half with Northern Illinois

They're looking ahead to ole miss.**

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:48 PM
What if I told you this game isn't at aTm?

In Dallas ain't it? Crowd seem more for TAM than Arky to you? They do to me. But then maybe that makes our win last year even better.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:51 PM
In Dallas ain't it? Crowd seem more for TAM than Arky to you? They do to me. But then maybe that makes our win last year even better.

If we played a game in Jackson vs auburn, we might have a crowd advantage, but it wouldn't be home.

Cowbell
09-24-2022, 07:51 PM
In Dallas ain't it? Crowd seem more for TAM than Arky to you? They do to me. But then maybe that makes our win last year even better.

Absolutely a neutral site. Heck the stadium is owned by an Arkansas alum!

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:55 PM
Absolutely a neutral site. Heck the stadium is owned by an Arkansas alum!

Ok ... Arky oughta be up by a hundred then considering how great their O is ****

msstate7
09-24-2022, 07:56 PM
Ok ... Arky oughta be up by a hundred then considering how great their O is ****

Clown post... aTm can play defense. Ark still has a good offense.

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 07:58 PM
Clown post... aTm can play defense. Ark still has a good offense.

Haha ... That was meant for you bro.

Cowbell
09-24-2022, 07:59 PM
Clown post... aTm can play defense. Ark still has a good offense.

It's amazing to see the extent to which one will go before being willing to just admit that they were wrong lol

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 08:02 PM
It's amazing to see the extent to which one will go before being willing to just admit that they were wrong lol

Is that big a deal? SMH. I know I was wrong ... Should I beg the board's forgiveness or confess to a priest or something.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:03 PM
Is that big a deal? SMH. I know I was wrong ... Should I beg the board's forgiveness or confess to a priest or something.

Not the board, me... you should beg my forgiveness. I'll give it if youre really contrite

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 08:05 PM
Not the board, me... you should beg my forgiveness. I'll give it if youre really contrite

Please ... PLEASE ... forgive me 7!!

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:05 PM
Please ... PLEASE ... forgive me 7!!

You're forgiven.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 08:06 PM
We will beat both of these teams. We are the 2nd best team in the west and it is a shame we shit our bed last week.

Love your optimism brother. We MAY be capable of a performance level to win the next three games but we haven?t shown it yet IMHO.

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 08:11 PM
You're forgiven.

Whew! ... That was close. I be more careful next time. Haha

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:12 PM
Whew! ... That was close. I be more careful next time. Haha

Haha

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:12 PM
What a horrible throw by Johnson

Nevermind, wr

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:16 PM
aTm is better with Johnson

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 08:17 PM
aTm is better with Johnson

Definitely

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 08:25 PM
A 2nd and 30 conversion?!!? Dang Arky where’s the D??!!?

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:28 PM
A 2nd and 30 conversion?!!? Dang Arky were’s the D??!!?

Reminds me of the 3rd and long Maryland got today to absolutely screw me on my bet

Activated Alpha
09-24-2022, 08:32 PM
Glad y?all have some optimism regarding our SEC play. Watching this game and all I can think about is our slow ass defense. I mean real slow

DownwardDawg
09-24-2022, 08:34 PM
Arky QB is terrible.

dawgday166
09-24-2022, 08:35 PM
Glad y?all have some optimism regarding our SEC play. Watching this game and all I can think about is our slow ass defense. I mean real slow

I was thinking similar. What I see here is speed with a lot of busted assignments. We don't bust assignments as bad but we don't have the same speed either.

DownwardDawg
09-24-2022, 08:35 PM
Glad y?all have some optimism regarding our SEC play. Watching this game and all I can think about is our slow ass defense. I mean real slow

I think aTm is gonna beat us.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:35 PM
aTm's offense is getting better, unfortunately

msstate7
09-24-2022, 08:37 PM
If smith is hurt, our game got more winnable

Activated Alpha
09-24-2022, 08:38 PM
Able to put a little bit of weight on there, but definitely a nasty looking injury

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 08:48 PM
aTm's offense is getting better, unfortunately

Because they're playing the guy they should have to begin with.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 09:05 PM
Achaine is gonna be a problem for us on the edge

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 09:08 PM
Achaine is gonna be a problem for us on the edge

You noticed that too.

We have to account for Achane. He's the best weapon on that offense.

Johnson is better with his legs than arm.

R2Dawg
09-24-2022, 09:09 PM
Achaine is gonna be a problem for us on the edge

You ain't kidding. I think he is the best RB in the SEC. Dude can play.

Now that TAMU has a QB, they are legit good team.

We can only hope the TAMU curse at MSU is still alive.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 09:10 PM
That was incredibly dumb by jimbo. Punt it there

R2Dawg
09-24-2022, 09:12 PM
I think aTm is gonna beat us.

If they play like they are playin and we play like we are playin, yeah we get beat and it won't be close.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 09:13 PM
That was incredibly dumb by jimbo. Punt it there

He probably lost this game with that decision. This isn't the nfl... college kickers can't kick 50+ with any consistency

Cowbell
09-24-2022, 09:20 PM
As much as I hate being a state fan at times, Arkansas fans have it worse. That field goal sums it up

HoopsDawg
09-24-2022, 09:21 PM
He probably lost this game with that decision. This isn't the nfl... college kickers can't kick 50+ with any consistency

his a bad game manager. should have gone for it on 4th and an inch. Should have punted or gone for it on 4th and 9. And should have called a timeout before the Arkansas FG right there to save 40 seconds. But it looks like it's going to work out anyway.

TrapGame
09-24-2022, 09:22 PM
Damn, that clutch 14 year old looking kicker choked for Arkansas.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 09:22 PM
So far …………

Sam Pittman’s 3rd year > Mike Leach’s 3rd year

CaptainObvious
09-24-2022, 09:23 PM
If any of you guys have young boys, start teaching them how to kick field goals. Spend money on training, physical conditioning, leg strength, and mental toughness. That job is wide open. All the best kickers have left the building. Good grief what a lost art!

msu15
09-24-2022, 09:23 PM
Achaine is gonna be a problem for us on the edge

With their change to Johnson I am no longer confident in us winning that game. I don't think we can defend them for 4 quarters.

msstate7
09-24-2022, 09:26 PM
If any of you guys have young boys, start teaching them how to kick field goals. Spend money on training, physical conditioning, leg strength, and mental toughness. That job is wide open. All the best kickers have left the building. Good grief what a lost art!

Kickers probably struggle with substance abuse. The stress those guys are under is immense

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 09:30 PM
With their change to Johnson I am no longer confident in us winning that game. I don't think we can defend them for 4 quarters.

We have to get better or we risk not winning again until November.

IMissJack
09-24-2022, 09:31 PM
Ark plays the type of game I think MSU should play. I just don?t think our offense is ever going to win in tough games. I know they lost tonight, but they had a chance.

Cowbell
09-24-2022, 09:32 PM
Ark plays the type of game I think MSU should play. I just don?t think our offense is ever going to win in tough games. I know they lost tonight, but they had a chance.

They should have won. Just made critical mistakes but physically they dominated.

calidawg
09-24-2022, 09:33 PM
We're going to have a dog fight to have a chance at 8 wins.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 09:34 PM
Ark plays the type of game I think MSU should play. I just don?t think our offense is ever going to win in tough games. I know they lost tonight, but they had a chance.

They win either with the made field goal or not giving up the red zone fumble scoop and score.

Homedawg
09-24-2022, 09:34 PM
Pittman didn't handle end game well... wasted two timeouts in last two minutes. Don't assume your kicker is going to make it.... they could have gotten the ball back and had another shot. But not wo two timeouts. I said it before he missed.

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 09:38 PM
You people are killing me. A$M still sucks on offense. They scored two offensive touchdowns Johnson had 151 yards on 11-21 passing against a bad secondary. Y?all need to chill.

Also, as a kicker i will tell you guys it sucks to miss a game winning kick. But if he is the kicker he should be he would want to be put back out there in a heart beat.

Commercecomet24
09-24-2022, 09:38 PM
Ark plays the type of game I think MSU should play. I just don?t think our offense is ever going to win in tough games. I know they lost tonight, but they had a chance.

That's just it though we already have. We went 3-3 against teams ranked in the final cfp and 4-4 in sec. That's as good as mullen did outside of one year.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 09:38 PM
We're going to have a dog fight to have a chance at 8 wins.

I want it but I just don’t think it’s possible unless we get better. And a couple of issues we have seemingly are not fixable, meaning we don’t have the athletes to match up.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 09:40 PM
Pittman didn't handle end game well... wasted two timeouts in last two minutes. Don't assume your kicker is going to make it.... they could have gotten the ball back and had another shot. But not wo two timeouts. I said it before he missed.

Never trust a game to a kicker if at all possible.

Commercecomet24
09-24-2022, 09:41 PM
Never trust a game to a kicker if at all possible.

This! I've seen it happen over and over. Heck Missouri did it today and it cost them a game too.

PGHBulldogBG
09-24-2022, 09:43 PM
Our road to 8 wins comes with these next two home games. We need to win both of them. If we go 8-4 that will be a solid year with this schedule. I still think LSU ends 2nd in the west and wins 9 games and is top 15 by the end of the year. I wish we had next years schedule with this years team.

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 09:50 PM
Never trust a game to a kicker if at all possible.

That?s such a bad argument, blaming a kicker to win a game is just easy when it comes to game winning options.

People don?t think about blaming the QB or the WR when they have a game winning option because the miss catch or missed throw is just seen as that another number on their stat sheet. But everyone expects the kicker to come out and make it every time. Give the kicker 25 to 40 tries a game and I promise he will miss less than the QB does.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 10:03 PM
That?s such a bad argument, blaming a kicker to win a game is just easy when it comes to game winning options.

People don?t think about blaming the QB or the WR when they have a game winning option because the miss catch or missed throw is just seen as that another number on their stat sheet. But everyone expects the kicker to come out and make it every time. Give the kicker 25 to 40 tries a game and I promise he will miss less than the QB does.

Drinkwitz gave away back-to-back plays to try and score a TD in the Missouri game, taking two kneel downs instead to set up field goal position. And the kicker missed. In my opinion, you don’t give away those opportunities.

Commercecomet24
09-24-2022, 10:10 PM
That?s such a bad argument, blaming a kicker to win a game is just easy when it comes to game winning options.

People don?t think about blaming the QB or the WR when they have a game winning option because the miss catch or missed throw is just seen as that another number on their stat sheet. But everyone expects the kicker to come out and make it every time. Give the kicker 25 to 40 tries a game and I promise he will miss less than the QB does.

I don't blame the kicker I blame the coach. You're goal to goal down there in a game winning situation get the td.

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 10:13 PM
Drinkwitz gave away back-to-back plays to try and score a TD in the Missouri game, taking two kneel downs instead to set up field goal position. And the kicker missed. In my opinion, you don’t give away those opportunities.

I think it?s stupid to give away throws that are there to be made to set up a kicker. A good kicker can make it from anywhere on the field under 50 or should. Take your shots and then when you have to set up your kicker.

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 10:15 PM
I don't blame the kicker I blame the coach. You're goal to goal down there in a game winning situation get the td.

Agreed! Kicking is the absolute last choice.

EdwardDrayton
09-24-2022, 10:22 PM
I don't blame the kicker I blame the coach. You're goal to goal down there in a game winning situation get the td.

This, all day, every day.

Homedawg
09-24-2022, 10:23 PM
That?s such a bad argument, blaming a kicker to win a game is just easy when it comes to game winning options.

People don?t think about blaming the QB or the WR when they have a game winning option because the miss catch or missed throw is just seen as that another number on their stat sheet. But everyone expects the kicker to come out and make it every time. Give the kicker 25 to 40 tries a game and I promise he will miss less than the QB does.

Uh. I think that's the point. They get one shot. It's not 100%. Its not that the kicker is bad. But if you put all your eggs in the kicker you're stupid. Thus - what I said prior to that- Pittman didn't handle the end game well. Made it where if the kicker makes it they might win. If he misses they for sure loses... bad coaching

Commercecomet24
09-24-2022, 10:43 PM
Uh. I think that's the point. They get one shot. It's not 100%. Its not that the kicker is bad. But if you put all your eggs in the kicker you're stupid. Thus - what I said prior to that- Pittman didn't handle the end game well. Made it where if the kicker makes it they might win. If he misses they for sure loses... bad coaching

Pittman and Drinkiwitz both coached poorly at the end. Cost them games.

Maverick91
09-24-2022, 10:43 PM
Uh. I think that's the point. They get one shot. It's not 100%. Its not that the kicker is bad. But if you put all your eggs in the kicker you're stupid. Thus - what I said prior to that- Pittman didn't handle the end game well. Made it where if the kicker makes it they might win. If he misses they for sure loses... bad coaching

I get you now.

NCDawg
09-24-2022, 11:59 PM
I want it but I just don’t think it’s possible unless we get better. And a couple of issues we have seemingly are not fixable, meaning we don’t have the athletes to match up.

I assume the couple of issues to which you are referring that are not fixable are: (1) Lack of speed- especially on the edges and (2) Lack of pass rush to put heat on the QB.

State82
09-25-2022, 08:29 AM
You're goal to goal down there in a game winning situation get the td.
Every. Single. Time.

EdwardDrayton
09-25-2022, 09:23 AM
I assume the couple of issues to which you are referring that are not fixable are: (1) Lack of speed- especially on the edges and (2) Lack of pass rush to put heat on the QB.

Exactly.

And if I were to add a third it would be the ability to give Will a clean pocket. He gave us one glimpse of being able to step out of pocket pressure and deliver a pass. Just not sure that truly is a part if his game at this point.

BlackSailsDawg
09-25-2022, 10:05 AM
I assume the couple of issues to which you are referring that are not fixable are: (1) Lack of speed- especially on the edges and (2) Lack of pass rush to put heat on the QB.

That is fixable.


Please remember, we played LSU with out Crumedy and Davis. Next go back and watch the BG game and see what's up with Davis and Russell in at the same time. Then rewatch it with some of the back up LBs. Page for one.

You put those 3 on the field against a passing team and you will get more pressure via speed.

EdwardDrayton
09-25-2022, 10:17 AM
That is fixable.


Please remember, we played LSU with out Crumedy and Davis. Next go back and watch the BG game and see what's up with Davis and Russell in at the same time. Then rewatch it with some of the back up LBs. Page for one.

You put those 3 on the field against a passing team and you will get more pressure via speed.

It’s sufficient for nonconference opponents, probably Auburn and maybe Kentucky. I’ll be happily surprised if it is against the other SEC teams.

BlackSailsDawg
09-25-2022, 10:35 AM
It?s sufficient for nonconference opponents, probably Auburn and maybe Kentucky. I?ll be happily surprised if it is against the other SEC teams.

The is no doubt about it.

- Crumedy is our best DL. He effects how an OL plays our DL. That opens up more for our edge guys and LBs.

- Davis is way faster than Charlton.

- Russell is way faster than those starting now too.

- Page is faster than Jett and Booby. He's just not 100% ready for a starting role. BUT his PT has been increasing because he is getting there.

Jack Lambert
09-25-2022, 10:41 AM
Did Pickering play yesterday?

BlackSailsDawg
09-25-2022, 10:49 AM
Did Pickering play yesterday?

Yes. https://hailstate.com/sports/football/stats/2022/bowling-green/boxscore/11330 Shows everybody that played.

R2Dawg
09-25-2022, 01:00 PM
Did Pickering play yesterday?

He played most snaps it seemed. I saw him in there a lot. Russell played a lot of snaps too as did Davis.

WPS
09-26-2022, 02:30 PM
Pittman and Drinkiwitz both coached poorly at the end. Cost them games.

The kick would have gone in pretty easily if Arkansas didn't have a 2nd and 5, and then one of the best centers in the country has a rare bad snap and they lose 10 yards to a 3rd and 14. That cost them more than anything really.

Those ill-times, unfortunate plays are what always seems to happen to Arkansas against A&M every single year lol.

basedog
09-26-2022, 02:50 PM
The kick would have gone in pretty easily if Arkansas didn't have a 2nd and 5, and then one of the best centers in the country has a rare bad snap and they lose 10 yards to a 3rd and 14. That cost them more than anything really.

Those ill-times, unfortunate plays are what always seems to happen to Arkansas against A&M every single year lol.

Watching that was about like watching our game with Lsu. Too many "iff's", you can't let games like both Msu and Ark lose like that and be successful.

For us to beat the Aggies it has to be mistake free I think, but same for them.

speedy1972
09-27-2022, 04:37 PM
Yes. https://hailstate.com/sports/football/stats/2022/bowling-green/boxscore/11330 Shows everybody that played.

I may have missed this being discussed, but what is the status of Crumedy? He is one of our best returning defensive players and yet no one is really speaking about him missing the first four games. At this point is he looking at redshirting?

msu15
09-28-2022, 03:09 AM
I may have missed this being discussed, but what is the status of Crumedy? He is one of our best returning defensive players and yet no one is really speaking about him missing the first four games. At this point is he looking at redshirting?

He doesn't have a redshirt available unless he takes a medical. Right now Alabama is looking like the earliest he will play, which is what the team is currently hoping for. He sustained a major wrist injury in preseason camp.

Goldendawg
09-28-2022, 12:33 PM
He doesn't have a redshirt available unless he takes a medical. Right now Alabama is looking like the earliest he will play, which is what the team is currently hoping for. He sustained a major wrist injury in preseason camp.

Someone posted here that if it didn't heal properly, he could be done. Article on Genespage predicted November 1 return.