Leach will blame this on the players

[Cowbell]

You watch in his pressor

[Apoplectic]

He should start with Will.

[Cowbell]

He should start with Will.

He should start in the mirror. He made zero adjustments to help the offense out while the opposing OC put his qb in a position to win

[War Machine Dawg]

There's a consistent difference I've noticed in good coaches and poor coaches. Good coaches give all the praise to the players when they win and intentionally draw all the blame when they lose. Poor coaches take all the credit when winning and blame the players after losing. JWS and Mullen did the former, Crooms, Jughead, and Pirate do the latter. I'll let everyone else figure out what kind of coach that makes the Pirate.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The stupidest thing we did coaching wise was running inside zone vs double edge on 4th and 1. Arnett beating his head against the wall playing 3 safeties who cant cover instead of just subbing one of our 6 CBs in to do it. Our scheme on defense will never stop a passing game. But the biggest problem was just on the offense. Drops mainly. They beat our WRs ass

[Apoplectic]

There's a consistent difference I've noticed in good coaches and poor coaches. Good coaches give all the praise to the players when they win and intentionally draw all the blame when they lose. Poor coaches take all the credit when winning and blame the players after losing. JWS and Mullen did the former, Crooms, Jughead, and Pirate do the latter. I'll let everyone else figure out what kind of coach that makes the Pirate.

Well then bless their hearts. Unless
They have govt jobs they?ll eventually have to face criticism when they suck.

[redstickdawg]

He should start in the mirror. He made zero adjustments to help the offense out while the opposing OC put his qb in a position to win

one dimensional offenses can't adapt and this ***** 2 hand stuff doesn't work in a big boys conference. Run the damn ball and establish dominance our sorry offense will never get another team to quit. FIRE LEACH and COHEN and the rest of the Ath Dept

[Homedawg]

You watch in his pressor

Well.....

[War Machine Dawg]

Well then bless their hearts. Unless
They have govt jobs they?ll eventually have to face criticism when they suck.

You missed the entire point. If you think JWS, Mullen, or any other coach worth a damn weren't criticizing their players, I don't know what to say. The difference is they did it privately, not in the media. It's about not being an egomaniac and putting the program ahead of yourself. But feel free to continue being stupid.

[BlackSailsDawg]

There's a consistent difference I've noticed in good coaches and poor coaches. Good coaches give all the praise to the players when they win and intentionally draw all the blame when they lose. Poor coaches take all the credit when winning and blame the players after losing. JWS and Mullen did the former, Crooms, Jughead, and Pirate do the latter. I'll let everyone else figure out what kind of coach that makes the Pirate.

Really? So Saban doesn't lash out publicly on his players? You mean Brian Kelly didn't do that in week 1? Pretty sure he did, and Saban does.

[ImissCityBagel]

5 drops.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.

[R2Dawg]

one dimensional offenses can't adapt and this ***** 2 hand stuff doesn't work in a big boys conference. Run the damn ball and establish dominance our sorry offense will never get another team to quit. FIRE LEACH and COHEN and the rest of the Ath Dept

Redstickdawg, if you live in redstck you have every right for that view.

[Commercecomet24]

We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.

Nailed it, right here. All these cost us. We had multiple opportunities to win this game and just refused to make the plays. May have been worst game Will has played.

[Cowbell]

We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.

If you don't put this on leach, you don't know much about offensive scheme in football.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Nailed it, right here. All these cost us. We had multiple opportunities to win this game and just refused to make the plays. May have been worst game Will has played.

Yep.

[Cowbell]

Nailed it, right here. All these cost us. We had multiple opportunities to win this game and just refused to make the plays. May have been worst game Will has played.

CC - it don't matter / this offense relies on perfect execution. Everything has to work just right. Well that ain't realistic. We need and offense that wins when you win more plays than you lose and make adjustments when someone is not executing.

[BlackSailsDawg]

If you don't put this on leach, you don't know much about offensive scheme in football.

When the ball hits the players in the hands... It's Leach's fault.

Leach's fault on a Muffed punt?


Come on. It was a total effort to not win.

[HancockCountyDog]

They didn't really bite us, but dear God the 4th down decisions were shockingly bad.

[redstickdawg]

Redstickdawg, if you live in redstck you have every right for that view.

I can see the lights from the stadium if I were to go out in the yard, I live in a neighborhood with several coaches and former players

[BlackSailsDawg]

CC - it don't matter / this offense relies on perfect execution. Everything has to work just right. Well that ain't realistic. We need and offense that wins when you win more plays than you lose and make adjustments when someone is not executing.

It doesn't require perfection. But it, like any offense, requires execution. 24/42 That's what the passing game produced. 57.14% How many drops do you think that is?

[Cowbell]

When the ball hits the players in the hands... It's Leach's fault.

Leach's fault on a Muffed punt?


Come on. It was a total effort to not win.

The great thing about football is you have 60 minutes and multiple drives in each of the four quarters to make adjustments if something is not working or players are not executing. Or you can keep doing the same thing over and over hoping the execution improves and still make 5.5 million per year. This is leach in a nutshell.

[Cowbell]

It doesn't require perfection. But it, like any offense, requires execution. 24/42 That's what the passing game produced. 57.14% How many drops do you think that is?

60% completion in Mullins or Kiffins offense is enough to win most games.

[Commercecomet24]

CC - it don't matter / this offense relies on perfect execution. Everything has to work just right. Well that ain't realistic. We need and offense that wins when you win more plays than you lose and make adjustments when someone is not executing.

Didn't require perfection tonight at all. It just required making simple plays. Catching wide open passes, Checking out of bad plays, hitting open receivers. That's not perfection that's football, and we didn't do it.

[Cowbell]

It doesn't require perfection. But it, like any offense, requires execution. 24/42 That's what the passing game produced. 57.14% How many drops do you think that is?

And it us predicated on the qb and wrs to make very few mistakes. When you are throwing short yardage and never taking the top off it means you can't make mistakes and get behind the sticks or you will stall. Same thing that happened to the cowboys under Garrett. And I'm talking about against good defenses.

[Cowbell]

Didn't require perfection tonight at all. It just required making simple plays. Catching wide open passes, Checking out of bad plays, hitting open receivers. That's not perfection that's football, and we didn't do it.

We also did not make scheme adjustments when execution was low. LSU did and thus the results.

[Commercecomet24]

We also did not make scheme adjustments when execution was low. LSU did and thus the results.

If we made the plays that were there to be made it didn't matter. Drops aren't scheme, not checking out of bad plays is not scheme, fumbling punts is not scheme. It's real simple you make plays or you don't. Tonight was not about scheme it was about players not making routine plays

[Bdawg]

We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.

Absolutely correct. We crapped the bed when we had the chance to put pressure on them in the first half. But typically, we screwed it up and let them hang around and it cost us.

[Cowbell]

If we made the plays that were there to be made it didn't matter. Drops aren't scheme, not checking out of bad plays is not scheme, fumbling punts is not scheme. It's real simple you make plays or you don't. Tonight was not about scheme it was about players not making routine plays

You can say that all you want CC but you have coached long enough to know better. Leach doesn't make adjustments to his offense hardly ever and so when something isn't working he can't jumpstart the team. Our right tackle got manhandled all night. Our receivers were blanketed in man coverage. A tight end in this offense or running an inside draw or inside screens would back the pressure off. Tight ends in the flat would kill it in this offense. A wr taking the top off would too. Running it down their throat would have worked had we had 11 personnel. It ain't rocket science. When players are getting beat you tinker with things until you find a mismatch that favors you. It's why leach will never beat good teams in this league and coaches like Kiffin will.

[IMissJack]

We just do not have a tough team. Not many bad dudes out there that other coaches worry about.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If we made the plays that were there to be made it didn't matter. Drops aren't scheme, not checking out of bad plays is not scheme, fumbling punts is not scheme. It's real simple you make plays or you don't. Tonight was not about scheme it was about players not making routine plays

THANK YOU everyone keeps trying to make this about the scheme but it's as simple as execution. We had drives end because or plural drops in the same set of downs... we had 75 yards of KO return wasted on an irrelevant hold... we gifted them a TD with the muffed punt... we generated zero pressure on defense... our LB spy couldn't keep up with the QB... our DBs lost every battle with LSU's WRs... Will was inaccurate all game and the INT should have been a TD... our RT got destroyed all game... OK that last one is on leach for not getting him help. RBs, Dolla Bill, the punter, and Rara are the only dudes that did good tonight. But we want to blame it on offensive scheme? Get outa here

[PikeDawg15]

Lets beat auburn to the Hugh Freeze auction

[DownwardDawg]

LSU runs 1 offensive play and they beat our ass. Drop back to pass, scramble, then run.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Rara had the worst drop of the entire game

[Cowbell]

Lets beat auburn to the Hugh Freeze auction

Here! Here!

[Goldendawg]

The stupidest thing we did coaching wise was running inside zone vs double edge on 4th and 1. Arnett beating his head against the wall playing 3 safeties who cant cover instead of just subbing one of our 6 CBs in to do it. Our scheme on defense will never stop a passing game. But the biggest problem was just on the offense. Drops mainly. They beat our WRs ass

Our safety play against the pass is no better than last year, but there is plenty of blame to go around tonight. Coaches and players.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Let’s just hire Clawson and be done with all this fussing around. We should’ve done it in 2018 but didn’t. Dude has 2nd best record in the ACC in the last few years with the 2nd worst talent. Give him a couple years and we are annoying to deal with for Bama and UGA and definitely 3rd in the SEC at worst.

[Goldendawg]

We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.

We have two OT's starting that are very new to the position, among other issues team wide.

[parabrave]

We have two OT's starting that are very new to the position, among other issues team wide.

And its the Coachs' responsibility to provide them with help.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Cry me a river on the OT. They are who we have. They need to get their asses in gear and man up.

[DEDawg]

Rightfully so, Will is just not the guy. But it starts at the HC, he never should have built our offense around a guy who is a walking sack

[Lord McBuckethead]

And its the Coachs' responsibility to provide them with help.

Every time I see Rogers getting smoked in the backfield, two OL are sitting there holding their dicks.

[Todd4State]

If you don't put this on leach, you don't know much about offensive scheme in football.

And you do?**

[Todd4State]

CC - it don't matter / this offense relies on perfect execution. Everything has to work just right. Well that ain't realistic. We need and offense that wins when you win more plays than you lose and make adjustments when someone is not executing.

I know this will probably blow your mind but "everything has to work just right" for any offense to work at this level.

[Todd4State]

Let?s just hire Clawson and be done with all this fussing around. We should?ve done it in 2018 but didn?t. Dude has 2nd best record in the ACC in the last few years with the 2nd worst talent. Give him a couple years and we are annoying to deal with for Bama and UGA and definitely 3rd in the SEC at worst.

Oh please. You are aware that Leach has barely been here more than two years right?

[Bass Chaser]

Mullen always blamed someone else. He never accepted responsibility for when the offense sucked.

[War Machine Dawg]

Let?s just hire Clawson and be done with all this fussing around. We should?ve done it in 2018 but didn?t. Dude has 2nd best record in the ACC in the last few years with the 2nd worst talent. Give him a couple years and we are annoying to deal with for Bama and UGA and definitely 3rd in the SEC at worst.

You understand.